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| ricolin | multi-arch SIG meeting in 25 mins at openstack-meeting-alt . feel free to update agenda https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Multi-Arch-agenda | 06:36 |
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| yasufum | hi, tacker team | 08:01 |
| yoshito-ito | hi | 08:01 |
| masazumi-ota | Hi | 08:02 |
| ueha | hi | 08:02 |
| takahashi-tsc | Hi | 08:02 |
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| hyunsikyang | Hi | 08:02 |
| hyunsikyang | Hi all | 08:03 |
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| Liang | hi | 08:03 |
| yasufum | #startmeeting tacker | 08:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 26 08:03:56 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:03 |
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| hyunsikyang | Hi all again:) | 08:04 |
| yasufum | I have no topics today actually. How about you, everyone? | 08:05 |
| hyunsikyang | Hi yasufum:) | 08:05 |
| yasufum | hi | 08:05 |
| hyunsikyang | I don't have specific topic today. | 08:05 |
| yoshito-ito | Let me inform about CNF specs | 08:06 |
| yasufum | sure | 08:06 |
| yoshito-ito | I made a note in vPTG etherpad to share my specs related to CNF | 08:06 |
| yoshito-ito | I hope other members to check and give me feedbacks | 08:07 |
| yoshito-ito | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Tacker-PTG-Victoria_C-VNF-discussion | 08:07 |
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| yoshito-ito | I'd like to confirm we don't have any confilcts for V release specs. | 08:08 |
| yasufum | I remember it might be related with a proposal from hyunsikyang, right? | 08:09 |
| hyunsikyang | Yes. | 08:09 |
| hyunsikyang | I am checking it now. | 08:09 |
| yoshito-ito | Thanks. | 08:10 |
| amotoki | hi, regarding the networking-sfc discussion, I summarized the background and discussion points from my perspective. hope it helps you understand it well. | 08:10 |
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| amotoki | feel free to add comments or questions inline. also feel free to ping me when you have the discussion in vPTG. | 08:11 |
| hyunsikyang | Can I make a comment in the your etherpad? and we can discuss it. Because, current implementation made by me and phuoc. but if we need to change it, we should do it. So, | 08:11 |
| amotoki | sorry for interrupt | 08:11 |
| hyunsikyang | fine. | 08:12 |
| yoshito-ito | Yes, I welcome your questions or comments on the etherpad. | 08:12 |
| yoshito-ito | I think the biggest change is to use k8s manifest files to deplooy other than TOSCA based VNFD. Another big topic can be CNF deployment on VM. | 08:13 |
| hyunsikyang | I think my proposal will be covered your one too. | 08:13 |
| yoshito-ito | Great. I will upload my specs in a week. | 08:14 |
| hyunsikyang | According to CISM architectur, I want to make tacker architecture for k8s more general and scalable. | 08:15 |
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| hyunsikyang | I will make a comment in your etherpad and discuss it in VPTH | 08:16 |
| hyunsikyang | vPTG* | 08:16 |
| yoshito-ito | OK, thank you. | 08:16 |
| hyunsikyang | GOOD:) | 08:16 |
| yoshito-ito | So we can move to the topic of networking-sfc again? | 08:17 |
| hyunsikyang | yes | 08:17 |
| hyunsikyang | yasufum could you change a topic for networking-sfc | 08:17 |
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| yasufum | #topic networking-sfc | 08:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "networking-sfc (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:18 | |
| yasufum | pls go a head | 08:18 |
| hyunsikyang | thx yasufum | 08:19 |
| amotoki | hi, as I mentioned last week, I added my summary on the background and discussion points from the neutron perspective in the PTG etherpad | 08:19 |
| amotoki | hope it helps you understand it. feel free to add questions/comments inline. | 08:20 |
| takahashi-tsc | amotoki Thanks. | 08:20 |
| amotoki | that's an update from me | 08:20 |
| amotoki | feel free to ping me when you discuss it in the ptg. if available, I will join. | 08:20 |
| yasufum | I would like to comment before vPTG, thanks | 08:21 |
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| takahashi-tsc | I wrote Tacker perspective I consider and I heard from yasufum and Dhar. Please write other information if Tacker members have. | 08:22 |
| amotoki | thanks. hope to see the good future :) | 08:22 |
| yasufum | amotoki: thanks! | 08:22 |
| amotoki | takahashi-tsc: what you added is same as my understanding as long as i heard | 08:24 |
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| yasufum | It seems we can go to the next topic if anyone have, or end this meeting. | 08:26 |
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| hyunsikyang | I am done from my side. | 08:27 |
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| takahashi-tsc | nothing from me. And we have vPTG next week. | 08:28 |
| yasufum | ok | 08:28 |
| yasufum | #endmeeting | 08:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 26 08:28:46 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-05-26-08.03.html | 08:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-05-26-08.03.txt | 08:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-05-26-08.03.log.html | 08:28 |
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| yasufum | bye | 08:28 |
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| amotoki | o/ | 08:30 |
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| ricolin | #startmeeting multi_arch | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 26 15:00:21 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'multi_arch' | 15:00 |
| ricolin | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
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| ricolin | o/ | 15:00 |
| ricolin | this going to be a quick meeting:) | 15:00 |
| ricolin | #endmeeting | 15:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 26 15:03:08 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/multi_arch/2020/multi_arch.2020-05-26-15.00.html | 15:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/multi_arch/2020/multi_arch.2020-05-26-15.00.txt | 15:03 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 26 21:00:46 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | Let's roll | 21:00 |
| oneswig | hi all | 21:01 |
| trandles | Hi there | 21:01 |
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| oneswig | hi trandles | 21:01 |
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| oneswig | Sad to see the news about Rich Brueckner | 21:03 |
| trandles | That came as a shock. | 21:03 |
| rbudden | hello | 21:03 |
| oneswig | hi rbudden | 21:03 |
| martial | Hello :) | 21:04 |
| oneswig | Hi martial | 21:04 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 21:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial oneswig | 21:04 |
| oneswig | I am not sure I ever spoke to Rich but I saw him around, he seemed to be at all the conferences. Which must have been hard work for him. | 21:05 |
| oneswig | OK I think we should cover PTG planning. | 21:07 |
| oneswig | #topic ptg planning | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ptg planning (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 21:07 | |
| oneswig | We have two hours earlier and two hours later next Tuesday. | 21:08 |
| oneswig | brb | 21:08 |
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| oneswig | I think this is an opportunity to try and fix some pain points, or at least spend a couple of hours actually moving them forwards | 21:10 |
| martial | logistic wise, what time did we get? | 21:10 |
| trandles | What specifically are the hot topic items? | 21:10 |
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| martial | are we setting up any additional tools to work with the remote teams? | 21:11 |
| oneswig | I'll get the times, 1 sec | 21:11 |
| oneswig | #link ptg schedule https://object-storage-ca-ymq-1.vexxhost.net/swift/v1/6e4619c416ff4bd19e1c087f27a43eea/www-assets-prod/ptg/PTG2020-Schedule.pdf | 21:12 |
| trandles | I see that the Vancouver link on the openstack site now goes to a different opendev 3-part series rather than next week's PTG | 21:13 |
| oneswig | Kick-off for us is 2 hours on Tuesday 15:00 UTC, then back for 2 more hours at 2100 UTC (this time) | 21:13 |
| oneswig | Apologies, it's Monday, not Tuesday | 21:14 |
| oneswig | My mistake | 21:14 |
| trandles | Good times for me, 0900-1100 and 1500-1700 :D | 21:15 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | trandles: try openstack.org/ptg | 21:16 |
| janders | the second time slot is a life-saver for my timezone :) | 21:16 |
| trandles | diablo_rojo_phon, +1 Thanks! | 21:16 |
| oneswig | We aim to please trandles janders, over here the second slot is almost too late for the virtual beer Tim suggested :-) | 21:17 |
| oneswig | But I'm sure I'll cope... | 21:17 |
| martial | or too early :) | 21:19 |
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| oneswig | Are people happy with a Zoom session or is there a need for something else? | 21:20 |
| trandles | I'm allowed to do zoom as long as web browser is supported. I've had vendors require the app and that's verboten on my work computer. | 21:20 |
| rbudden | ditto here | 21:21 |
| martial | diablo_rojo_phon: asking you re the above? | 21:22 |
| martial | tim/bob: anything else you can use? | 21:22 |
| trandles | Skype, Webex, bluejeans, google meet...pretty much anything but zoom | 21:22 |
| rbudden | I can fire up the personal laptop if it’s easier, but yeah, as trandles said, it’s largely anything but Zoom | 21:23 |
| martial | I can set a Google Meet if needed | 21:24 |
| trandles | I can steal Lucy's laptop for zoom if that's easier for everyone else. | 21:24 |
| martial | Kendall sent us a link last week about https://meetpad.opendev.org/ | 21:25 |
| martial | that uses "Jitsi" | 21:25 |
| martial | give me a sec, to set up both google meet | 21:26 |
| trandles | I'll just use Lucy's laptop. My laptop has had the camera and microphone hardware destroyed so I'd also have to be able to call in using a phone. | 21:27 |
| trandles | I have workarounds, pick something everyone else is happy with. | 21:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | You are welcome to use meetpad too it's just more experimental. We tried to stick to options that fit our requirements. | 21:28 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | And tried to narrow options so we can have a more cohesive event. | 21:28 |
| oneswig | Hopefully we will settle on something that works quickly but it's going to be hard to do in advance unless the people who need to fall back to BYOD | 21:29 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | We'll have details out in the next day or two for testing zoom. Meetpad is available for testing now. | 21:31 |
| martial | Google Meet setup ... up to 250 people | 21:31 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Be aware that using Google meet will keep anyone from China from being able to participate. | 21:31 |
| trandles | The Venn diagram of conferencing tools and countries has a big hole in the middle of it. :P | 21:32 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Zoom works in China which is why we selected it. | 21:32 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Meetpad does as well. | 21:32 |
| martial | Tim and Stig should have received the first invite but if I did it right 1100-1300 EST ( 1500-1700 UTC) | 21:33 |
| martial | I have a link if we decide to us it | 21:34 |
| trandles | IIRC Zoom doesn't work from India | 21:34 |
| martial | (Setting up No 2) | 21:34 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | It is available as far as I know, it's just noted that it shouldn't be used by government officials. | 21:35 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | But I'd argue Google meet shouldn't either ;) | 21:35 |
| trandles | Got the invites martial | 21:36 |
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| martial | 2/2 setup | 21:36 |
| martial | Stig, what do you think re: Google Meet vs ... | 21:37 |
| oneswig | thanks diablo_rojo_phon - hard to please the entire world it seems | 21:37 |
| martial | thanks Kendall, sorry for the chaos :) | 21:37 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | It's alright. We knew there would be a lot of debate, just trying to help people understand why we made the decisions we did. Open communication and all that :) | 21:38 |
| martial | 👍 | 21:39 |
| oneswig | martial: we use google meet for our work, it functions. Zoom is better. If trandles and rbudden can source hardware that works, I'm in favour of sticking with the zoom for the virtual room. | 21:39 |
| oneswig | But if they can't I'm in favour of providing an alternative | 21:40 |
| trandles | oneswig, martial I can get a non-work laptop to use | 21:40 |
| martial | kendall: they said they can join zoom "as long as they can join from the web browser" | 21:40 |
| martial | how can we test? | 21:40 |
| jmlowe | I'm good with whatever | 21:40 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I'll get the link and details out tomorrow martial we are configuring everything and doing our own testing today. | 21:41 |
| martial | perfect | 21:41 |
| martial | Stig, let's test tomorrow and then we can see what works :) | 21:41 |
| martial | Thanks Kendall :) | 21:41 |
| oneswig | In the manner of dining philosophers we are focusing on the cutlery rather than the main event :-) | 21:42 |
| martial | true :) | 21:42 |
| trandles | I'm available to test if it'll help. martial or oneswig can ping me on slack when it's time | 21:42 |
| oneswig | thanks trandles that would be good | 21:42 |
| oneswig | trandles: what's in your in-tray for Ironic these days? | 21:42 |
| rbudden | i’m happy to test as well if needed | 21:43 |
| trandles | Getting back to working with Ironic would be great. I need to find the time. It looks like we'll be making an offer for our cloud architect position soon so hopefully that frees me up some to work on other things. | 21:43 |
| oneswig | I think I will bring the exercise of getting my efforts on vf-lag into the open. | 21:43 |
| trandles | oneswig, has Kitrick done anything with Ironic recently? | 21:44 |
| oneswig | trandles: not specifically on Ironic but he's got a few things going on. Some of this work with SDN and RDMA has him behind it. | 21:45 |
| oneswig | trandles: did you ever get the Ironic boot-to-ramdisk into service? | 21:46 |
| trandles | Got 90% of the way there. I had issues with my image and not necessarily with Ironic. In the midst of debugging I ran out of time | 21:47 |
| oneswig | I see the PTG as the place for that kind of rainy-day activity | 21:48 |
| janders | interesting! :) are there any publicly available resources on the SDN/RDMA work mentioned? | 21:48 |
| janders | I also have an AOB question: | 21:48 |
| oneswig | janders: no alas, but perhaps that can be fixed. | 21:48 |
| trandles | Do we have a sense of how well the Scientific SIG has been able to influence things to address our specific concerns? | 21:49 |
| janders | do any of you have experience HPC-aware security auditors? | 21:49 |
| oneswig | hot topic right now! | 21:50 |
| janders | we're looking at improving our security posture across the board and the guys we're working with are good with enterprise but some of their ideas are really causing havoc on the HPC side | 21:50 |
| oneswig | trandles: depends on the project but the Ironic team I think have been really receptive | 21:50 |
| trandles | oneswig, I agree | 21:50 |
| trandles | I haven't held up my end of that relationship | 21:51 |
| martial | Stig: we can jump on their PTG too to discuss this :) | 21:51 |
| janders | +1 for Ironic guys taking our feedback on board | 21:51 |
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| oneswig | There's been a few cores/ptls from different projects who have joined the discussion here, and I think that is great. | 21:52 |
| trandles | janders, perpetual problem. We've had success hiring an enterprise security guy, training him up on HPC, and having him interface with auditors. | 21:52 |
| martial | 👍 go OpenStack teams! | 21:52 |
| oneswig | janders: Is your team ISO27001 certified? If not you're at risk of your consultants advising that as low-hanging fruit. You'll want more than that from the fee. | 21:53 |
| janders | no, we are not | 21:54 |
| janders | yeah I was thinking if we can find an organisation which specialises in designing HPC systems with security in mind we'll get heaps more value out of that | 21:54 |
| janders | so I was wondering if any of you ever worked with anyone like that | 21:55 |
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| oneswig | The UK national tier-1 Cray system (ARCHER) was affected in the recent issues with ssh vulnerabilities. | 21:57 |
| oneswig | ... along with plenty of others. The people who didn't get hit are those who assiduously patch their systems. | 21:58 |
| janders | true - yet on the other hand many HPC bits aren't really designed with this in mind | 21:59 |
| janders | rolling updates occasionally break certain jobs | 21:59 |
| martial | running low on time, so plan for tomorrow is after we get the zoom info to test it out with tim | 21:59 |
| trandles | I wonder when folks will start disallowing key-based authentication? | 21:59 |
| oneswig | <discuss for 60 seconds or less...> | 22:00 |
| janders | I wonder what hardening-friendly cluster management solutions are out there | 22:00 |
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| janders | I suppose that's something for another time | 22:00 |
| oneswig | ah, time's up :-) | 22:00 |
| janders | thanks all! :) | 22:00 |
| trandles | Monday! | 22:00 |
| oneswig | But this is another interesting topic for next week, perhaps! | 22:00 |
| oneswig | See y'all on Monday | 22:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 26 22:00:55 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-05-26-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| rbudden | see ya! | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-05-26-21.00.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-05-26-21.00.log.html | 22:01 |
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