Tuesday, 2020-07-14

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yasufumhi, tacker team!08:00
manpreethi08:00
takahashi-tscHi08:00
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uehahi08:01
masazumi-otahi08:01
yasufum#startmeeting tacker08:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 14 08:01:23 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:01
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keiko-kHello08:02
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yasufumI would like to check status of specs proposed at previous vPTG.08:03
yasufumIt is about one month and half from the event, but some specs are still remanined.08:04
yasufumAre there still under working specs? Or ready to be merged?08:05
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keiko-kI have 2 specs remained.08:05
takahashi-tscSorry but my 2 specs are remained.08:05
yasufumCould you tell me if you can answer at this time, or leave a comment in gerrit later[08:05
keiko-khttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/731715/08:06
takahashi-tscThank you for the comment about Robot specs, my team have already discussed it, I'll update the spec soon, probably tomorrow.08:07
keiko-kThis spec needs community reviews. already got one +2. need to get another +208:07
yoshito-itoI have two specs left and they might be updated in the detailed design process, I'll update the status later in gerrit.08:08
keiko-khttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/731718/     this spec is WIP. this week I will fix it. So please review it.08:08
takahashi-tscAction Driver spec are almost completed, but I'll update some impact and work item by this week. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/740896/08:08
yasufumOK, thank you for sharing08:09
yasufumkeiko-k: For patches required another +2, I will ask cores to review it.08:10
keiko-kyasufum thanks!08:10
makoto-haI have 1 spec remained.08:10
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yasufummakoto-ha: Did you complete to fix all comments?08:13
yasufumI just want to know about the current status.08:14
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makoto-hayasufum: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/732146/ I'll update this week.08:16
yasufumThanks. I understand.08:17
yasufumI have one more thing to share about patch reviewing.08:18
yasufumnetworking-sfc08:18
yasufumI have started to review patches of networking-sfc. It seems there are no patches required to be merged urgently.08:20
yasufumHowever, there are several patches needed to be reviewed.08:21
yasufumI would like to ask you also review these patches if possible.08:22
takahashi-tscI agree, some bug patch is remained. Sorry for the late but I start to review.08:22
yasufumThanks! Go forward step by step.08:24
yasufumThats all for today from my side.08:27
yasufumIs there any topic sharing?08:27
takahashi-tscI'd like to share discussion about TST, sorry but not completed yet, but can I share current ongoing discussion?08:28
yasufumSure!08:28
takahashi-tschttps://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting08:28
takahashi-tscL91- First, we start to write our Tacker's test strategy. , UT is same as before, FT is little difficult to discuss... So I'd like to our "compliance test".08:29
takahashi-tscI'd like to clarify our "compliance test"08:29
takahashi-tscIn my opinion, compliance test should be the test code provided by ETSI NFV, and should not be changed.08:30
takahashi-tscAnd I want to ask TST members to make document about coverage which related to compliance, like L106-08:33
takahashi-tscBest documentation is full matrix table, but I think it is too large... At least, we need some document with which we can understand current TST code coverage.08:34
yasufumYou mean that you are going to ask ETSI TST to provide pretty formatted docs for understanding easily, right?08:35
yoshito-itoLet me confirm what coverage you mean. TST code coverage of TST definition? or TST code coverage of SOL definition?08:37
takahashi-tscRight. I think Tacker need/should show compliance coverage , and in my opinion, TST members should make base documentation for compliance coverage.08:38
takahashi-tsccoverage means TST code coverage of SOL definition, I think.08:39
yoshito-itoOK, thanks.08:41
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yoshito-itoI agree. We need to show our couverage of SOL specs, and the document will help us for it a lot.08:42
yoshito-itoI belive the document needs to be generated automated way like api doc because it may be changed oftern according to the branch update.08:43
takahashi-tscI agree. Making full document manually is difficult to continue...08:44
yasufumAre ETSI positive to introduce some framework or way of autogeneration?08:46
takahashi-tscI'm not sure... But I should propose it.08:46
yasufumI’m not sure how they are thinking08:46
yasufumOK. understand.08:47
takahashi-tscIt is one discussion point, thanks.08:47
yasufumI believe it must be so helpful for tacker dev!08:47
takahashi-tscOK, at next TST meeting, I have 2 topics. 1 is above, making coverage document. Another is about input parameter, but it is still under discussing... I think we will update etherpad by Thursday.08:48
takahashi-tscIf possible please make comment after I update etherpad.08:49
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yoshito-itoGood. I will.08:50
masazumi-otaOK I'll check it.08:50
yasufumCould you tell me when the next TST meeting will be held?08:50
takahashi-tscActually today... But I skip.  I'll join on 28th July.08:51
yasufumI see, thanks08:52
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takahashi-tschttps://portal.etsi.org/Meetings.aspx#/meeting?MtgId=3845708:54
takahashi-tscThis is meeting link08:54
yoshito-itoCan I share a small topic about implementation?08:55
yasufumyes, please go a head08:55
yoshito-itoRelated to my spec of adding Artifact API, LiangLu posted a patch. It is still WIP but I welcome feedback.08:56
yoshito-itoI've already made some comments.08:57
yoshito-itohttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/739697/08:57
Liangand here is the link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739697/ :)08:57
yoshito-itoThank you Liang!08:57
LiangI should thank you for starting the topic :)08:59
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yoshito-itoWe are running out of time?09:01
yasufumYes. I would like wrap up if everyoen is OK.09:01
takahashi-tscNothing from me09:01
yasufumThank you for joining09:02
yasufumbye09:02
takahashi-tscthanks09:02
yoshito-itothank you09:02
yasufum#endmeeting09:02
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mlavalle#startmeeting networking14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 14 14:00:03 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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njohnstono/14:00
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haleybhi14:00
lajoskatonaHi14:00
mlavalleWelcome to our PTL less meeting!14:01
jlibosvao/14:01
mlavalleAs usual, our agenda is here:14:01
amotokihi14:02
mlavalle#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#Blueprints14:02
ralonsohhi14:02
mlavalle#undo14:02
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#Blueprints14:02
mlavalleThis is the correct link:14:03
mlavalle#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings14:03
mlavalleso let's get going14:03
mlavalle#topic Announcements14:03
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mlavalleNext milestone is Victoria-2 in the week of July 27th (2 weeks from now)14:03
rubasovlate o/14:03
mlavallewe are getting very close14:04
mlavalleAs far as I know, we haven't found maintainers for networking midonet:14:04
mlavalle#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-June/015583.html14:05
mlavalleso if you are interested in this project, this is the time to step up to the plate14:05
mlavalleWe have a proposal to have all our weekly meeting in this time slot, removing the one we have on Mondays:14:06
mlavalle#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739780/14:06
mlavalleI see that most of you have already +1ed it.14:07
mlavallefor the laggards, please make your point of view known14:07
mlavalleAnd, thanks to the efforts of y'all, OpenStack is turning 10 years old. Congratulations!14:08
mlavalle#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-July/015839.html14:08
ralonsohcongrats!14:09
mlavalleThere is going to be a zoom celebration. This etherpad has the connection information:14:09
mlavalle#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tTP9ilsAaJ2E8vMnm6uV14:09
njohnston\o/14:09
amotoki\o/14:09
mlavallehope to see a good Neutron contingent representing the team in this celebration14:10
mlavalleAny other announcements from the team?14:11
mlavalleok, let's move on14:12
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mlavalle#topic Blueprints14:12
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mlavalleCurrent blueprints are listed here:14:13
mlavalle#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#Blueprints14:13
mlavalleI see that rubasov has been making good progress with https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:metadata-ipv6+(status:open+OR+status:merged)14:14
rubasovthanks for the reviews, everyone14:14
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mlavalleany other comments regarding blueprints14:16
mlavalle?14:16
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mlavalleok, let's move on14:17
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mlavalle#topic Community Goals14:18
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mlavalleI see that we still have some ways to go for "Migrate CI/CD jobs to new Ubuntu LTS Focal"14:19
toskyand I see that the Zuul v3 goal is missing there14:19
mlavalleThree patches in the works14:19
tosky(hi from your friendly neighborhood Zuul v3 goal volunteer)14:19
toskyif I may: I found a few neutron-owner projects which still need work14:20
mlavalletosky: you working on this goal for the Neutron team?14:20
toskymlavalle: I'm the goal coordinator14:20
mlavalleso we need a volunteer?14:20
toskyI can help and answer question, but given the amount of jobs still around, I think you need one :)14:21
toskyalso because it unlocks the Focal work14:21
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toskyI haven't sent a proper status email on openstack-discuss@ but I can share the etherpad with the status14:21
toskyhttps://etherpad.opendev.org/p/goal-victoria-native-zuulv3-migration14:22
mlavalleplease do14:22
toskyaround line 16014:22
lajoskatonatosky, mlavalle: for zuulv3 we considered finished the migration as I remember14:22
toskyit's not :)14:22
toskyI may have counted some job incorrectly, but part of those jobs definitely need some work14:22
lajoskatonatosky, mlavalle: as I remember grenade was the not finished in most of the stadiums14:22
toskylajoskatona: that's one, but not only that14:23
lajoskatonatosky: ok I check if there's something on my batch :-)14:23
amotokilooking at our zuulv3 etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/neutron-train-zuulv3-py27drop, we considered finished and dropped it from the agenda14:23
amotokibut we might missing something.14:23
mlavalleshould I understand you are the owner of this goal for the Neutron team, lajoskatona?14:23
lajoskatonamlavalle: no as I remember it was perhaps njohnston, but perhaps it's not correct14:24
lajoskatonaI was just related with some stadium projects :-)14:25
toskyin your etherpad I see "    networking-midonet - no volunteers to maintain this project anymore"14:25
njohnstonHmm, I may have not revisited the grenade jobs in all the projects, when we were tracking this, it was before the grenade zuul v3 fixes were merged14:25
toskydoes it mean the project should be deprecated14:25
tosky?14:25
mlavalletosky: we haven't made that decision just yet, but it's highly likely14:26
lajoskatonanjohnston: the solution for that is only recently available, so no worries :-)14:26
toskymlavalle: so please either remove it or port the jobs, at least one of the two routes14:26
mlavalleok, duly noted14:27
toskynjohnston: the new grenade jobs were available a bit late, at the time of branching ussuri14:27
njohnstontosky: also I did not consider non-voting or experimental jobs.  For example the jobs you mention for networking-bgpvpn are both experimental14:27
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toskynjohnston: they can still be executed, and IMHO it's a bit poinltess to keep around broken jobs14:28
toskybecause once we deprecated devstack-gate, those will be broken14:28
mlavalle#info Neutron team needs to either deprecate networking-midonet or migrate its jobs to zuul V314:28
toskyso please consider all of them from the etherpad, and feel free to add me as reviewer (as it happened so far)14:28
toskythat's it from me14:28
lajoskatonatosky, njohnston: recently I uploaded a patch for that (bgpvpn), which tries focal in one cover14:28
njohnstonthanks tosky!14:28
toskyand please use the right gerrit topic14:29
amotokitosky: looking at networking-midonet zuul.yaml, only UT jobs are enabled now.14:29
amotokiwe may need to drop job definitions though. Is this your point?14:29
toskyit's not strictly needed, but I think it would be better; either port them and re-enable them, or drop them14:30
toskythey will be still available in the history14:30
toskybut it will avoid confusion and (in time) allow us to remove the base legacy jobs14:30
mlavalletosky: thanks for your comments and guidance14:31
mlavallelet's move on now14:32
mlavalle#topic Bugs14:32
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mlavallehaleyb was our bugs deputy last week14:32
mlavallehere's his report:14:32
mlavalle#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-July/015897.html14:32
haleybi think most bugs were picked up, 2 might need owners14:33
mlavalleanything you would like to highlight haleyb?14:33
haleybhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/188642614:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1886426 in neutron "Neutron sending response to rabbitmq exchange with event type "floatingip.update.end" without updating the status of Floating IP" [Undecided,Incomplete]14:33
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haleybi need to ask more question on that, didn't quite get the answer i wanted14:34
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haleybi'm more interested in what the DB/API says about a floating IP, am stacking now14:35
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haleybthe other was https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/188714714:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1887147 in neutron "neutron-linuxbridge-agent looping same as dhcp" [Low,Incomplete]14:35
haleybthis looked like an issue w/privsep but more on the config side14:36
haleybwe don't have a centos 8 job, and i haven't installed on one recently14:36
haleybthis one was also interesting, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/188696914:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1886969 in neutron "dhcp bulk reload fails with python3" [High,Confirmed]14:37
haleybsubmittor is working on a fix, surprised we hadn't seen it before14:38
mlavalleyeah, surprising14:38
mlavalleOur fearless leader also listed a couple of bugs in the agenda that need volunteers:14:39
mlavalle#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/188589714:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1885897 in neutron "Tempest test_create_router_set_gateway_with_fixed_ip test is failing often in dvr scenario job" [High,Confirmed]14:39
mlavalle#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/188589114:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1885891 in neutron "DB exception when updating a "ml2_port_bindings" object" [Medium,Confirmed]14:39
mlavallePlease help if you have bandwidth cycles available14:40
mlavalleany other bugs we should discuss today?14:40
mlavalleok14:41
mlavalleOur deputy this week is lajoskatona14:41
mlavalleso we are well taken care of14:41
mlavalleand next week will be njohnston's turn14:42
njohnston+114:42
mlavalleok, let's move on14:42
mlavalle#topic New engine facade14:43
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mlavalleDoes anyone have an update on this topic?14:43
lajoskatonamlavalle: yes I am aware of it14:43
ralonsohmlavalle, sorry, I need to retake this topic again14:44
mlavalleralonsoh: me too :-)14:45
mlavalleok, let's move on14:45
mlavalle#topic CLI / SDK14:46
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mlavalleDoes anybody have an update on this topic?14:46
amotokii think we have nothing. we didn't cover this topic recently14:48
mlavalleok14:48
mlavalle#topic Open agenda14:49
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mlavalleDoes anybody have any additional topic we should discuss today?14:49
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mlavalleok14:50
mlavalleThanks for attending14:51
mlavalleHave a great week!14:51
mlavalle#endmeeting14:51
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rubasovbye14:51
ralonsohbye14:51
njohnstono/14:51
lajoskatonabye14:51
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amotokibye14:52
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ralonsohhello everyone, I didn't send a mail to lists.openstack.org to cancel today's meeting15:01
ralonsohthere is no agenda and no unattended bugs15:01
ralonsohif you need to contact me, please join #openstack-neutron channel15:02
ralonsohthanks15:02
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lajoskatonaok, I see there's no meeting :-)15:06
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