Thursday, 2020-08-06

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abhishekk#startmeeting glance14:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug  6 14:01:38 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:01
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abhishekk#topic roll call14:01
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abhishekklets wait couple of mins for rosmaita14:02
abhishekkcool, lets start14:03
rosmaita(i am only partially here)14:03
abhishekk#topic Updates14:03
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Steaprosmaita: that is fine, we only need your brain!14:03
abhishekkWelcome Dan to the cores group14:04
rosmaitathere is not enough of that to go around14:04
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rosmaitacongratulations, Dan!14:04
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Steapgg, Dan!14:04
abhishekkWelcome and congratulations Dan!!14:04
abhishekkSteap, means cyril?14:04
Steap"gg" is "good game", but it may not be completely mainstream yet14:05
* Steap is ahead of his time14:05
rosmaitaSteap: you need to call yourself 'Bruce', it will be less confusing14:05
abhishekkSorry :D14:05
abhishekkDan is helping us a lot and hopefully he will stays with us little longer :P14:06
abhishekkMoving ahead14:06
abhishekk#topic release/periodic jobs update14:06
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abhishekkstable/train and stable/ussuri release for glance14:06
abhishekkStill there are couple of patches under review or in the gate, So I will suggest we should release both on Monday14:07
abhishekkany objections?14:07
abhishekkjokke ^^14:07
jokkeif we get the ussuri backports in I can push the release patch up to review today14:07
abhishekkIf that happens then its good14:08
abhishekkotherwise we will release on Monday14:08
jokkeclient patch is up already and has +2 from smcginnis the glance side needs those backports still14:08
abhishekkFinal release for non clients libraries - 3 weeks from now14:08
abhishekkthat means we need to get cinder multiple stores specs in by tomorrow EOD14:09
abhishekkI am ready with the PoC just need to work on tests and polishing little bit14:09
abhishekkrosmaita, smcginnis kindly have a look at cinder multiple stores specs14:10
abhishekkV3 milestone 4 weeks from now14:10
abhishekkjust month remaining14:10
abhishekkwe need to get image encryption, sparse image handling, virtual size calculation and multiple cinder stores work done before this14:11
abhishekkI guess Luzi is here14:11
abhishekkCould you please share updates about image encryption work?14:11
abhishekkmhen, as well14:11
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abhishekkok, we will get back to this in Open discussion14:12
Luziwe are currently waiting on the Barbican Secret Consumer API14:12
Luzithey had some issues with the gate-jobs14:13
abhishekkwhat is ETA for that14:13
abhishekkare we positive to get this done in Victoria?14:13
Luzii am not sure14:13
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abhishekkthank you for the update14:14
abhishekkKeep us posted about the progress if possible14:15
mhenmostly depends on Barbican and how quick their new API is available to us and how much time we have left for the necessary adjustments to incorporate the new API then14:15
abhishekkmhen, I am asking because if we are certain then we can file for FFE if required14:15
abhishekkLets revisit the status in next week and then we will decide whether to move it to next cycle or not14:16
abhishekkMoving ahead14:16
abhishekk#topic Specs status14:17
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abhishekkwe still have 5 specs open for reviews14:17
abhishekkMake cinder driver compatible with multiple stores - - Need reviewes14:17
abhishekkIntrospect import plugin to calculate virtual size of image - - Need reviews14:17
abhishekkOptimize Ceph store network usage - - Need reviews14:17
abhishekkUpdate proposal for duplication image download - - Need reviews14:17
abhishekkCache API - - Need reviews14:17
abhishekkOut of which 1st are almost ready to go14:18
abhishekkCode is ready for both of them14:18
* Steap really needs to work on the cache api spec a bit more14:18
abhishekkSO kindly review them on top priority14:18
alistarleFor, I still think example will help to validate the optimization14:18
dansmithabhishekk: I will +2 the virtual size one after this when I re-read it, but should be fine I think14:19
alistarlejokke I can try to find it if you want (but I have also lot of work sparse upload side :p  )14:19
abhishekkdansmith, ack14:19
abhishekkalistarle, focus on sparse upload first14:19
abhishekkMoving to next topic14:20
abhishekk#topic Work moving to W cycle14:20
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jokkealistarle: yeah, lets try to get your sparse stuff in, that rest of the ceph stuff has been kind of waiting to layer on top of the work you guys already did14:20
abhishekkDue to lack of time I am suggesting to move below items to next cycle14:21
abhishekkCode cleanup (ToDo items from code) -
abhishekkrestrict Duplicate downloads14:21
abhishekkCache API14:21
abhishekkCluster awareness for glance14:21
abhishekkRemove single store configuration14:21
* Steap is OK with moving Cache API14:22
abhishekkI am still putting efforts on removing single store configuration but I am doubtful to complete it within 3 weeks14:22
jokkeI was just gonna ask if Steap thinks the cache api is doable within the timeframe we have14:22
abhishekkFor Cache API I have PoC ready14:22
jokkeI'm around for about two and half weeks still. Then i will disappear into the forest for a week :P14:23
abhishekkI hope everyone agrees on the work I selected to Move to next cycle14:24
* abhishekk good for you jokke :D14:24
abhishekkCool, moving ahead to Open discussion14:25
abhishekk#topic Open discussion14:25
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abhishekkBetween Luzi and mhen thank you for joining in and sharing the updates14:26
Steapjokke: yeah I still need to disappear as well, so... :)14:26
abhishekkI have one topic for discussion14:27
abhishekkI have seen code-coverage job for most of the core projects14:27
abhishekklike nova, cinder, neutron etc14:27
abhishekkany idea what is usefulness of it?14:27
abhishekkrosmaita, dansmith ^^14:27
jokkeWe used to have one I think we got rid of it as no-one ever paid any attention to it14:28
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dansmithin nova, it's not much use, IMHO14:28
dansmithin other projects I've used a coverage tracking tool to make sure that stuff that is added gets tested,14:29
rosmaitawell, it's useful to see what the coverage is on new patches14:29
abhishekkas far as I think the purpose should be look at the results and see whether code added is covered or not14:29
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dansmithbut with such a large and indirectly-connected project, it can be hard14:29
abhishekkdo we really have time to check this?14:29
jokkeyeah, it was one of those things the Rackspace/Intel guys were active on and when that project got carpet pulled under it no-one just paid any attention to it so IIRC we removed the job to release that bit of resources back to infra pool14:29
dansmithglance seems to be missing a lot more coverage than nova does though, so it may be useful here if the data is presented in a useful format14:30
dansmithbut it requires diligence by the cores to check it and force people to write tests14:30
dansmithso if that's not going to happen, then it's just a waste of infra resources14:30
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jokkei think tox gives that info for you, so you can just run it locally to see what's in the report14:30
dansmithit's also something you can do by downloading a patch and determining it yourself14:31
rosmaitawhich nobody does14:31
dansmithtox doesn't unless you run pycoverage or something, that I know of,14:31
dansmithbut yes, it's doable locally14:31
abhishekkI guess next cycle we should add one goal to increase code coverage of glance14:31
jokkewe have tox env called cover for it14:32
abhishekkI think we have tox -e coverage or cover in glance tox.ini14:32
dansmithjokke: yeah, that's not tox, that's just us configuring tox to run a coverage tool14:32
dansmithabhishekk: just to be clear, adding a job does not increase coverage... only humans increase coverage :)14:32
jokkedansmith: sure yeah, but I mean we do have tooling via tox to do it locally was what I meant14:32
jokkedansmith: ++14:33
abhishekkdansmith, yeah I know that :D14:33
dansmithabhishekk: just saying, it's easy to say "we'll add the job" and start consuming resources, but then never do anything about it, so... need some policies and procedures... and policing :)14:33
jokkedansmith: and that was why we removed the job last time :D14:33
abhishekkdansmith, yes, thats why I asked what are the benefits of having it14:34
dansmithyep, but if the policing will be there, I'm all for it, because.. there's a lot of uncovered stuff14:34
alistarlecan't the job be a voting one then ?14:34
alistarlewe can have a gate job only for new code coverage14:34
dansmithalistarle: not really,14:34
dansmithbecause there are always lines you can't cover that don't matter much, and making the job refuse to merge a patch because you didn't roll over some docstring line is a real problem14:35
abhishekkwe need something like the job should fail if that patch has less than 50% code coverage14:35
rosmaitain cinder, we decided at the ptg to do it as a non-voting job and revisit at the next ptg to see if anyone is using it14:35
dansmiththe tool generally just *reports* coverage, and you have to decide whether you're okay with the report14:35
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alistarlewe can also restrict the coverage on some part of the code14:36
abhishekkyeah, that's really time consuming though it is good practice14:36
jokkealso it was driving behaviour where people wrote pretty much literally tests like assetEqual(configoption, configdefault) just to get the coverage number up. We need meaningful tests, not just more tests14:36
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alistarleYep, and btw I think we are more lacking of corner cases integration test than unit test14:37
dansmithwe could do a lot better by increasing the requirements the reviewers place on new patches and that's "free" in that it only demands the core time part of the coverage equation14:39
dansmithand then worry about tooling when we're starting to wonder how close to 100% we are :)14:39
abhishekkOk, any other topic for discussion??14:41
alistarleConcerning sparse upload, we finally admit it will be far easier to test all the case from gerrit than on premise :p  So we submit this first version :
jokkerosmaita: smcginnis: the two ussuri patches we're looking to include in the stable release are and if you have time14:42
alistarleWe still have issue with covering all checksum validation case, but we are working really faster in that condition than in our own environment14:42
abhishekkalistarle, let us know if you need anything14:43
alistarleI hope next week it will be fully fonctionnal14:43
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alistarleand I also submit a talk to the virtual summit about our multi AZ setup, will talk about glance multi store for sure14:43
alistarleBut I don't know if it will be selected ;)14:45
abhishekkOk that's it for me today14:46
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abhishekklets wrap up unless anyone wants to discuss or share any updates14:47
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jokkeI have nothing else for now14:48
abhishekkcool, thank you all14:48
abhishekkhave a nice time ahead14:48
jokkethanks all14:49
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gagehugo#startmeeting security15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug  6 15:00:38 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at
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gagehugo#link agenda15:01
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fungiquadruple-booked today, forgive my intermittent responses15:03
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gagehugoDouble booked here15:07
gagehugoI don't have much, been pulled in a lot of directions this week15:09
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gagehugofungi: have a good rest of the week!  I'm getting pulled into another meeting.15:21
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fungioh, yep, sorry, i got sidetracked by other meetings too, some bugs were made public but nothing concerning15:22
fungithanks gagehugo!15:22
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gagehugono worries, I got sidetracked too :(15:22
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