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abhishekk#startmeeting glance14:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 20 14:01:37 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:01
abhishekk#topic roll call14:01
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dansmitho/14:01
abhishekk#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:01
abhishekko/14:01
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alistarleO/14:02
jokkeo/14:02
abhishekkcool, everyone is here, so lets start14:02
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abhishekkwe have short agenda today14:02
abhishekk#topic Updates14:02
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abhishekkOctober 2020 PTG slot booking is open14:03
abhishekkI am proposing to book timeslots between 1400 UTC 1700 UTC14:03
jokke++14:03
abhishekkIt might be conflict for dansmith and rosmaita14:03
alistarle++ too14:03
abhishekkIf you guys have any plans then I can keep one day for later hours14:04
dansmithI'm okay with 1400 as far as it being early, but I don't know what else I will have on those days14:04
abhishekkdansmith, ack14:04
dansmithdefinitely don't schedule it around me14:04
abhishekkack14:05
abhishekkI will talk with rosmaita as well and then will book the slots14:05
abhishekk#topic release/periodic job updates14:05
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abhishekkglance_store 2.2.0 released14:05
rosmaitathe cinder slots are on the ethercalc thing already14:06
abhishekkrosmaita, ack14:06
rosmaitai'll try to attend anything you schedule other than those times14:06
abhishekkV3 milestones 3 weeks away14:06
abhishekkFinal release for non clients libraries - 3 weeks from now14:06
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abhishekkSo we need to reviews glance_store related patches this and next week on priority basis14:07
abhishekkI will highlight those patches in next topic14:07
abhishekkPeriodic job all green, TIME_OUT, frequent failure of py36 is resolved14:07
abhishekkthanks to dansmith we have finally got rid of TIME_OUT and frequent failure of function-py36/py38 issues14:08
dansmith\/o14:08
dansmither, heh14:08
abhishekk\o/14:08
abhishekkMoving ahead14:08
abhishekk#topic Important reviews14:08
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abhishekkCopy image race condition - https://review.opendev.org/74359714:09
abhishekkSparse image upload - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/74428214:09
abhishekkCinder multiple stores support - https://review.opendev.org/74655614:09
abhishekkRampup rbd resize - https://review.opendev.org/74657914:09
abhishekkFixing flaky copy-image-revert-lifecycle test - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745937/14:09
abhishekkLast patch is merged, so ignore that14:09
dansmithI just reviewed the sparse file one14:09
alistarleThanks for your review14:09
alistarleI didn't have the time to check it14:09
jokkeyeah same14:09
jokkejust minutes before the meeting14:09
abhishekkack, today I am conducting meeting from mobile, so not able to look at those14:10
abhishekkThese are some important reviews which we need to be focus on this week and next week14:11
alistarleThanks for that guys, I will implement the fix before I go to holidays for 3 week tomorrow, then yebinama will take the lead to get that merged asap14:11
abhishekkalistarle, ack, thank you14:11
dansmithalistarle: all minor stuff I think, should be quick14:11
alistarlegood new then14:12
alistarleQuick question14:12
abhishekkalistarle, there is still some partial work pending or this is it?14:12
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alistarleshould I add more functionnal tests ? Or test for RBD ?14:12
alistarleyes this first patch implement only the write optimisation of the spec, not the read one, which require much more cleaning work on our side14:13
abhishekkmore meaningful tests are always good14:13
abhishekkalistarle, so the commit message should say partial implements?14:13
alistarleI will update that then14:13
abhishekkcool14:14
jokkealistarle: I'd definitely would love if we had tempest test for that (I think it's only env where we have actual rbd store available) to make sure that th checksum matches if the thin provision is on.14:14
dansmithwe can float a patch against glance that depends-on this and will run the rbd job configured thusly14:14
alistarleabout meaninfull test, I see that functionnal test should be the the same for all stores, but thin provisionning is not possible for all stores14:14
jokkealistarle: I have no idea how much work it would need, but would be very nice peace of mind14:14
dansmithperhaps we should just always enable thin on our jobs after this?14:15
dansmithjokke: trivial just to run the job with this enabled14:15
abhishekkI guess that is good idea, to always run job with thin provisioning enabled14:16
dansmithI'll put a patch up and alistarle can use it to recheck while waiting for the glance_store patch to merge14:16
alistarleOk, should I update the functionnal test of glance_store in this commit then ?14:16
alistarleoh thanks14:17
jokkewell that just flips the situation around when we never test the fat provisioned. Thus I was thinking rather just specific test than full tempest run14:17
jokkeflip, create an image, download it, see the hash matches14:17
dansmiththat's not how tempest jobs work14:18
dansmitheveryone else would test the thick case though14:18
abhishekkI am not sure it is possible to flip the glance config parameter in tempest14:18
dansmithcorrect14:18
jokkeoh, k14:18
jokkeso every config variation needs it's own test run?14:19
abhishekkAFAIK, you can specify your configs in zuul.yaml while defining job14:20
dansmithpretty much, although there are some shortcut ways around that but that's not employed very often14:20
abhishekkOk, alistarle thank you for your work14:21
jokkefair enough ... so yeah, lets flip it on by default and I think we have periodic ceph job as well, don't we? Maybe having that fat and we have both ways covered on something we monitor14:21
alistarleNot for glance_store, but for glance I think14:22
jokkeyeah, need to test it in glance runs14:22
alistarlefunctionnal test are very light in glance store, only a simple crud for filesystem en swift14:22
alistarle*and14:22
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jokkeyup14:22
abhishekkwe have periodic job for swift and cinder for glance_store14:22
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jokkewas something couple of people started/were supposed to do and both of them moved to other things before much progress was made14:23
abhishekkthat was ages ago :D14:23
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alistarleI will not have the time to check that before my holiday, but I can put yebinama on that glance test work if he has the time14:23
abhishekkalistarle, ack14:24
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abhishekkapart from this we have Rampup rbd resizing and cinder multiple store support for reviews14:24
abhishekkOk, moving ahead14:25
jokkealistarle: if it's just definition of new job/changing a config option in existing one instead of figuring out how to reconfigure and respin the service, I don't see it being requirement for that patch to merge, just something we should have in place before release14:25
abhishekkor I can also take care of that14:25
dansmithI'm working on the job right now14:26
abhishekkcool14:26
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abhishekk#topic Open discussion14:27
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abhishekkSo we have some tempest tests for multiple stores14:27
abhishekk#link https://review.opendev.org/74571214:27
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dansmithnice14:29
jokkegood stuff14:29
dansmiththat reminds me,14:30
abhishekkIt is difficult to trigger failure from tempest so adding negative tests might need more time14:30
dansmithI should enable my nova-and-glance-rbd-multistore job on glance as well14:31
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abhishekkdansmith, it is possible to restart the g-api service on cleanup?14:31
abhishekkgmann, ^^ in tempest14:31
dansmithcleanup of what? the job yes, a test no14:32
abhishekkohh, so in a job can we have single test running?14:32
abhishekkbut that will be too much of overhead14:32
dansmithin nova we have a couple tests that require really weird stuff for live migration, so we actually run tempest restricted to a couple tests multiple times with config switching in between14:32
dansmithit's not very common, and a bit tricky, but it's doable14:33
abhishekkI will have a look at those tests to get some ideas, could you please point it ?14:33
dansmithbut tempest tests that confirm invalid configs or something are probably not likely to merge14:33
gmannyeah, what dansmith said.14:34
dansmithabhishekk: I'll have to go find it, will point you at them in a bit14:34
gmannis it changing the config in between of test?14:34
abhishekkI want to try revert logic on all_stores_must_succeed is True, by deleting the staging_store or one of the file store in between14:34
alistarlecan't we use mutating config for that ?14:35
alistarlein order to change glance live config without running a new job14:35
dansmithabhishekk: if you mean one test that stages, and then break staging, and another test that tries import, that's not a legit thing to land in tempest I think14:35
abhishekkgmann, it is about if I delete the staging store file directory during test then that will cause failure for other tests as well if that staging dir is not created again14:35
dansmithabhishekk: that's out of scope for tempest I think14:36
gmannyeah14:36
gmannyou can write functional tests for that14:36
abhishekkhmm, so may be we need to depend on functional test which we have14:36
dansmithabhishekk: we could do that with some shell scripting in post or something, but yeah.. that's what functional tests are for14:36
toskyalso tempest-like tests in a plugin, if you want to reuse the infrastructure, I guess14:36
abhishekkdansmith, ack14:37
gmanntosky: it would not be in scope of how tempest tests work.14:37
abhishekktosky, that will create also create new repo, right, or could we maintain it in project repo as well14:38
abhishekkgmann, is there any restriction on the size of image we can use for web-download?14:38
abhishekkin tempest?14:38
dansmithabhishekk: you can control the image in your job,14:39
gmannTempest tests cannot control on when API operation finish and in between verification14:39
dansmithso unless it causes it to take longer than the job timeout, should be okay14:39
toskythat's why I wrote tempest-like14:39
abhishekkdansmith, ack14:39
gmanndansmith: yeah but that might not be guaranteed  right14:40
gmanni am concern that can end up unstable test14:40
toskyif the pattern is: run some test, change the configuration, re-run that test, couldn't that be done with some ansible/zuul glue?14:40
dansmithsurely, but he asked about specific tempest-based limits, of which there are none, AFAIK14:40
dansmithgmann: ^14:40
gmannyeah14:40
gmannTempest limits are what API has14:41
dansmithabhishekk: btw, really glad to see this kind of team-wide test conversation taking place in glance :)14:41
tosky(there is whitebox-tempest-plugin, if you need to something else on the nodes)14:41
abhishekk:D14:41
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dansmithtosky: yeah, do we run that anywhere in upstream CI?14:42
abhishekkstill we have lot many features to cover with tempest, hopefully that will be covered in this cycle14:42
gmanndansmith: on whitebox-tempest-plugin gate itself14:42
toskydansmith: I don't remember on top of my head; the people working on it are mostly working on nova14:43
dansmithgmann: okay14:43
abhishekkwill try to figure out something for negative multiple-stores tempest tests14:44
abhishekkthat's it from me today14:44
abhishekkdo you guys have anything else in mind?14:44
toskyquestion before you close: who is responsible for the 'cursive' library? It seems a dependencies, but it's in the x/ namespace14:44
toskyI noticed while cleaning some barbican jobs14:45
toskybut the usage pointed to glance more than other projects14:45
gmanntosky: owner of x/<lib>  repo.14:45
abhishekknot sure, I have submitted one patch in cursive (may be 2 years before), there was only one reviewer I guess14:46
toskyright, but if it's a glance dependency, just be aware it may break14:46
rosmaitacursive was maintained by the johns hopkins applied physics lab14:46
rosmaitabut they stopped working on openstack maybe two cycles ago14:46
rosmaitanot sure who owns it now14:46
abhishekkwe have periodic job for cursive library14:47
toskyI mentioned it because we had an x/ repository (devstack-plugin-nfs) which really ended up there by mistake and it was moved back to openstack/ after being officially adopted by cinder & qa14:47
abhishekkthat will help us to know if something is breaking due to cursive14:47
rosmaitayeah, glance, cinder, and nova all use it14:47
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abhishekkyes14:48
rosmaitafwiw, i think it belongs in openstack namespace14:48
abhishekkit is now in openstack-archive :o14:49
toskyhttps://opendev.org/x/cursive14:50
gmann openstack-archive is because it was retired from opensatck - opendev is what current location is https://opendev.org/x/cursive14:50
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abhishekkack14:50
abhishekkso we need to find one maintainer to bring it back under openstack?14:51
abhishekkas glance, cinder and nova all use it for image signature verification stuff?14:51
gmannsome project needs to own it or a separate project with maintainer if no project want to own14:52
abhishekkack14:52
rosmaitamaybe nova, glance, cinder, and barbican can get together at the PTG and work something out14:52
dansmith[07:02:45]  <abhishekk>we have short agenda today14:52
abhishekk+114:52
dansmith:P14:52
abhishekk:D14:52
abhishekkyep, I will add this topic on glance PTG  agenda14:53
abhishekkanything else, before closing?14:53
abhishekkhappy holidays alistarle and jokke14:53
jokkeo/~14:54
jokkeI'll be around start of next week, off from Thu latest14:54
abhishekkcool14:54
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abhishekkthank you all14:54
jokkethanks everybody14:55
abhishekk#endmeeting14:55
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gagehugo#startmeeting security15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 20 15:00:10 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'15:00
gagehugo#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/security-agenda agenda15:00
Luzio/15:01
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fungioh, yeah, i'm also around15:02
gagehugoo/15:04
gagehugo#link OpenDev PTG Dates Announced15:04
gagehugowhoops15:04
gagehugo#topic OpenDev PTG Dates Announced15:04
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gagehugo#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016424.html15:04
gagehugoThe dates for the next PTG are October 26th to October 30th, 202015:05
gagehugoJust a reminder15:05
gagehugo#topic Anti-spoofing bypass15:07
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gagehugo#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/188434115:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1884341 in OpenStack Security Advisory "Anti-spoofing bypass" [Undecided,Incomplete]15:07
gagehugofungi: o/15:07
fungithis report has been switched to follow our public workflow15:07
fungiit's been confirmed reproducible, but the neutron developers are at a bit of a loss as to how it should be tackled or who has the expertise to work up a fix15:08
fungiit could be seen as a bug in the linux kernel, or in supporting tools15:09
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fungidepending on whether you expect devices to auto-unwrap null vlan tags15:09
gagehugohmm15:10
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fungiit's probably cleaner if this is solved via a patch/knob for the kernel or ebtables15:10
gagehugook15:12
gagehugothanks fungi15:12
gagehugo#topic Next week's meeting cancelled15:12
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gagehugoI'll be out next Thur so Im just gonna cancel the meeting15:12
gagehugoand we will meet in Sept15:12
fungicool, i was going to be on "vacation" anyway ;)15:12
gagehugo#topic open discussion15:13
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gagehugoDoes anyone have anything else they want to discuss?15:13
gagehugothanks everyone!  have a good rest of the week!15:16
gagehugo#endmeeting15:16
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fungithanks gagehugo!15:17
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gmann#startmeeting policy_popup18:01
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gmannraildo: you there?18:01
raildogmann, yeah, how you doing?18:01
gmanni am good how r u18:01
raildonot to bad :)18:02
gmanni think we missed to have meeting  on 6th18:02
gmannanyways let's start18:02
raildosure18:03
gmannjust added the agenda in etherpad #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/default-policy-meeting-agenda18:03
gmannsame as previous meeting18:03
gmann#topic General doubts about Default policy18:04
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gmann#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/743318/18:04
gmanni did not get chance to review this18:04
gmanni will check today or tomorrow18:04
raildogmann, yeah, I need to address Ben's comment, but would be nice for you to take a look as well :)18:05
gmannsure18:05
gmann#action gmann to review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/743318/18:05
gmann#action raildo need to address the feedback on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/743318/18:05
raildoas general news, I'm looking to be a mentor in a open source initiative in the collage that I graduated, the idea is to get someone to work on the default policy for Barbican18:06
gmann#topic Review Requests18:06
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gmannraildo: that will be nice.18:06
gmannwe can engage the contributors in this pop up team and start targeting few projects, like baribican you mentioned18:07
raildoand also, I'm raising awareness for this topic inside Red Hat, so I hope to have more folks working on this at least for the next cycle18:07
gmanncool18:07
gmanncyborg can be one to finish it as they are close18:07
gmann#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/740542/18:08
raildogmann, yeah, I was taking a look on this patch, things are getting there :)18:08
gmanni reviewed their policy patch, mainly i would like to see test coverage first and then set of changes to see the impact18:08
gmannbasically how I did in nova18:08
raildo++18:09
gmannthey do not have much policy so it will be easy18:09
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gmannnot like nova which has around 100s of policy :)18:09
gmannany other project you seen started the work?18:09
raildogmann, I'm expecting barbican to be a mid term between both18:10
gmannok18:10
raildogmann, I do not, would be nice to join the team's meetings at least for neutron and manila18:10
raildogmann, since they we're planning to work on this topic during victoria cycle18:11
gmannyeah, let me check with amotoki for neutron.18:11
gmannand gouthamr if he has any plan for manila18:11
raildocool18:11
gmann#action gmann to check neutron and manila plan for policy work.18:12
gmann#topic Open Floor18:12
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gmannone update on this is-  i started working on tooling for json->yaml conversion.18:13
raildogmann, cool, do you have some patches that want me to take a look?18:13
gmannand upgrade checks on nova side to declare the json format as deprecated18:13
gmannraildo: not yet, most probably next week early I should be able to push those18:13
raildosounds good to me18:14
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gmannthere are some challenges i am seeing on how policy json file can be  generated and how to decide whether it is default rule or not.18:14
gmannbut it will be more clear when it is up for review and unit tests18:15
raildoagreed18:15
gmannthat is it from my side.18:15
gmannraildo you have something ?18:15
raildonothing else from my side18:15
raildogmann, glad to see you around :)18:15
gmannraildo: :)18:16
raildogmann, have a good one!18:16
gmannlet's close today18:16
gmannraildo: thanks, you too.18:16
gmann#endmeeting18:16
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