Tuesday, 2020-09-15

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yasufumHi, tacker team08:01
yasufum#startmeeting tacker08:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 15 08:02:38 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:02
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yasufumDo you have a topic today other than patch review?08:03
takahashi-tscI think we should talk about testing failure...08:04
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yasufumYou have suggested a fix for the issue, right?08:04
takahashi-tscYes, and I write summery in Etherpad08:05
yasufum#topic failure-in-ft08:05
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yasufumI do not know about ut failure…08:07
takahashi-tscWe face 2 troubles now. 1st is about pip, 2nd is about Gnocchi.08:07
takahashi-tscError is "Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement oslo.serialization===4.0.1".,   and log said "Looking in indexes: https://mirror.dfw.rax.opendev.org/pypi/simple, https://mirror.dfw.rax.opendev.org/wheel/ubuntu-20.04-x86_64"08:09
takahashi-tscAnd no 4.0.1 in https://mirror.dfw.rax.opendev.org/wheel/ubuntu-20.04-x86_64/oslo-serialization/08:09
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takahashi-tscI think we should report to someone, e.g. oslo members.08:10
takahashi-tscWhat do you think?08:10
yasufumFor gnocchi, I and gmann reported bug report, but no response from the team yet.08:10
yasufumAgree. We should make a report.08:11
yasufumBy the way, do you know why some patches has no failure for UT, such as https://review.opendev.org/#/c/748969/ ?08:13
patchbotpatch 748969 - tacker - Support Flow of the Get Operation Status - 6 patch sets08:13
yasufumIs it happed in all patches?08:14
takahashi-tscIn job's log, "Found oslo.serialization python package installed" I'm not sure but already installed.08:15
takahashi-tscI think, the error occurs in new ubuntu20 node.08:15
takahashi-tscit does not happen in all patches, but I found that same error happen in some other project patch.08:17
yasufumUmm, a bit strange…08:17
yasufumAnyway, it seems better to make a report first.08:19
takahashi-tscYes, I'll report soon.08:19
takahashi-tscNext is abouy Gnocchi. First yasufum, thank you for reporting.08:20
takahashi-tscGnocchi has retired, so I'm concerned that it may take a long time to resolve. We need some workaround.08:20
takahashi-tscMy suggestion is removing install Ceilometer. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/751965/08:21
patchbotpatch 751965 - tacker - [WIP] Temporarily remove ceilometer install - 1 patch set08:21
takahashi-tscRemoving only Gnocchi seems difficult. And I've checked that Tacker can run without Ceilometer in my local env.08:22
takahashi-tscThe problem is we cannot test some features. e.g. EventAlarm and Fenix plugin.08:23
takahashi-tscHowever testing recover is top priority, so I suggest above. What do you think?08:24
yasufumSure. All of functional tests cannot run now is quite critical.08:24
yoshito-itoI agree to drop Ceilometer temporarily.08:24
masazumi-otaI agree too.08:25
hyunsikyangHi I am late.08:25
JangwonLeeThen, how can we guarantee new features related with alarm?08:25
yoshito-itohi hyunsik, now we are discussing how to fix the FT failure due to Gnocchi.08:27
hyunsikyangHi yoshito-ito08:27
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yoshito-itoI think this is important for you because of Fenix-plugin support.08:28
takahashi-tscHi hyunsik, See https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting  L13-08:28
hyunsikyangYes. It makes some error when zuul run test.08:28
yoshito-itoIf we remove Ceilometer installation in FT temporarily, we cannot test monitoring related functions. but I think it's better to fix FT ASAP.08:30
JangwonLeeyes. As like my situation, we need to check features in new env.08:30
JangwonLeeBut, I also agree removing is fatest way.08:31
hyunsikyangI am not sure that who maintain the gnnochi now..08:32
hyunsikyangSo, it is not easy to fix by them.08:32
hyunsikyangat first, we remove the ceilmeter form testing and test that it works well first.08:33
takahashi-tscIn parallel, we should consider how to guarantee new features if Gnocchi is not fixed...08:33
manpreettakahashi-tsc just to add, are we considering barbican migration issue as well, https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007732 seems this is also a blocker reported by gmann.08:36
yasufumThanks manpreet for sharing.08:38
takahashi-tscHmm... Tacker use barbican too, so some trouble may occur.08:38
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takahashi-tscOK, I made new section "9. Testing failure due to other projects" in etherpad. And I'll update it if something happen.08:40
takahashi-tscI proceed with workaround and consider how to resolve completely. I'm glad if you write some comment in etherpad.08:42
yasufumWe have no choice but to ignore FT if this issues cannot be fix for considering the deadline of this release, but try to do the best first.08:42
yasufumtakahashi-tsc: thank, I will do that.08:42
yasufumCan we go to the next topic? I have one thing to ask you agree for patch review.08:45
yasufum#topic patch-review08:46
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yasufumAs you may know, release final of tackerclient was 11th, but we have for patches remained for waiting another +2.08:47
yasufumI have asked other cores to give +2, but no reponse.08:48
yasufumThis patches look good to me for merging.08:49
yasufumAnd we have no time to wait anymore actually.08:49
yasufumSo, I would like to merge them wihtout another +2 if possible, and if you agree.08:50
yasufumWhat do you think?08:50
yasufumlink: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-tackerclient08:50
hyunsikyangI didn't check it could you share08:50
yasufumJust information, all of project other than tacker and cindre agree to proceed the final.08:51
yasufumSo, we are last of two project cannot complete yet…08:52
yasufumlink: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:victoria-client-lib+(status:open+OR+status:merged)08:52
yoshito-itoI appreciate it. I agree.08:53
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takahashi-tscI also agree to merge.08:54
JangwonLeeI agree too08:54
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masazumi-otaI agree too08:55
yasufumOops, there is one more patch from Donghun I do not review yet, but it looks good and feels no problem.08:55
yasufumSo, five patches totally.08:56
yasufumThanks everyone to agree.08:56
hyunsikyangyes that is one of the rechecking works for networking-sfc.08:56
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yasufumOK, thanks08:57
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yasufumDo you anyone have a comment for asking to review your patches?08:58
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Liangyes, I have patches want to be reviewed08:58
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Liangmay I share them here?08:59
yasufumIt is better for us08:59
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LiangI'm sorry.....is that means I could go on ?09:03
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yasufumOr we can find your patches later.09:05
LiangThanks, one of them is cnf support for tacker, Mr.yasufum and Mr.Ito have already share their comment on it, and I would like to ask guys here to have a review09:05
patchbotpatch 746691 - tacker - Implementation CNF with VNFM and CISM in Tacker - 6 patch sets09:05
LiangSorry for taking time... just one more minute!09:06
Lianganother one is Artifact Files support for tacker, same condition with above one09:07
patchbotpatch 739697 - tacker - Implementation Artifacts support in Tacker - 14 patch sets09:07
Liangthey will be ready for review in tomorrow noon, sorry we are deleting some useless test data now.09:08
Liangand sorry for taking time again, that is all09:08
yasufumIs there other comments? or close this meeting today09:09
yasufumOK, thanks for joining. Bye09:10
takahashi-tscthanks, bye09:10
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oneswig#startmeeting scientific-sig21:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 15 21:00:51 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
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martialhello Stig21:01
oneswigapologies, zero prep - dog ate my homework :-)21:01
oneswighow about you?21:01
martialjust jumped here after my last meeting :)21:05
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martialfriendly people, smiling faces, etc21:05
oneswigHaving fun?21:07
martialyep, setting up systems iDRAC in the office :)21:10
martialit is funny how being able to update systems remotely helps :)21:11
oneswigToo much going on over here.  One interesting event from today was that we moved our hosted infrastructure to an OpenStack cloud that sells hot water as a byproduct of the IaaS - https://www.greenedge.cloud21:12
martialseems really nice21:17
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oneswigIt's pretty snappy so far.  Caused me to do a lot of technical debt on the infra playbooks21:19
oneswigHey b1airo21:19
oneswig#chair martial b1airo21:19
openstackCurrent chairs: b1airo martial oneswig21:19
oneswigJust us at present it seems.  I didn't manage to do any advance prep or organisation, alas.  Too much going on today :-(21:20
b1airosorry for being late - wedding anniversary, so had to take my time with morning coffee :-)21:20
b1airosounds familiar oneswig21:20
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oneswigb1airo: congratulations!21:21
b1airothanks. 10 years seems to have snuck up!21:21
b1airoalso makes me realise I must be getting old21:22
martialyep congratulations :)21:22
martial"better with age" :)21:22
b1airomartial: how much experience do you guys have with kubeflow?21:22
julianpHi all. Been lurking. And congratulations b1airo!21:23
b1airohey julianp - thanks21:23
oneswigThis could be a good opportunity to discuss future session content21:23
oneswighi julianp, good to see you21:23
b1airogood plan oneswig21:23
martialnot used it much. We do a lot of microservices with istio for people to deploy their ML frameworks, but GPU starvation is real21:24
oneswigI think there's some interesting new user stories coming through, we should try to bring some of those in to the discussion.21:24
oneswigb1airo: Bharat from our team wrote this up last year: https://www.stackhpc.com/kubeflow-baremetal-openstack.html21:25
b1airothanks oneswig21:28
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oneswigjulianp: how's the data gathering going?21:34
julianpJust working on that now, actually.21:34
julianpI will be sending something to OpenStack folks today.21:34
julianpNot sure how long I'll have to wait, but they seemed keen to help, so :fingers-crossed:21:35
julianpAs soon as I hear back I'll post something to the Slack.21:36
oneswigI think you're right, that this data would help a lot of institutions to validate their decision making21:37
julianpYeah, OpenStack is also getting "better with age". ;)21:39
martialthat is very true ... especially "install" wise :)21:42
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jandersb1airo congrats! :)21:52
janderssorry for rocking up 8 minutes before the end... conflicting meeting21:52
b1airoheh, thanks janders . i too have been pulled into 3 other threads of conversation21:54
oneswighey janders, good to see you.21:54
oneswighow's things?21:54
jandersoneswig thanks - good to see you guys too! :)21:55
jandersbusy - but good busy as they say so not complaining21:55
jandersmy team meetings moved again so I have a permanent clash with the 2100hrs SIG session - but I will try to come regularly to this (morning for me) one now21:55
jandersa random question: when do you guys think we'll see non-virtual Summits back? late 2021 or later than that?21:56
martialkind of hoping as soon as possible21:58
martialvirtual means not happening sadly for me; other priorities take priorities if I am not "at the meeting"21:59
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jandersyeah it's so much easier to focus on participation when physically at the venue, hence disconnected from BAU distractions21:59
oneswigAll true21:59
oneswigWho knows?22:00
jandersplus as much as jet lag is a pain it's better to deal with time differences prior than during the presentation22:00
oneswigfair point janders22:00
oneswigwe are at time, unfortunately.22:00
jandersthanks everyone22:00
oneswigThanks all22:00
jandersspeak to you in a couple weeks! :)22:00
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-09-15-21.00.html22:00
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-09-15-21.00.txt22:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-09-15-21.00.log.html22:00
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trandlescongrats b1airo :)23:06
trandlessorry I missed today's meeting...had a conflict23:06
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