Thursday, 2020-11-12

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abhishekk#startmeeting glance14:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov 12 14:01:02 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:01
abhishekk#topic roll call14:01
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jokkeo/14:01
abhishekk#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:01
abhishekko/14:01
abhishekkshort agenda today14:01
abhishekklets wait couple of minutes for others to join'14:01
rosmaitao/14:01
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abhishekkcool, lets start14:02
abhishekk#topic Updates14:02
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abhishekkVictoria release community meeting - Today 1600 UTC14:02
abhishekkSome projects are going to give updates about victoria PTG14:02
abhishekkI will be presenting updates for Glance14:03
abhishekkthe meeting is on zoom14:03
jokkecool, good luck.14:03
abhishekkIf interested kindly join14:03
abhishekkthank you :D14:03
jokke^^ the reason why I won't be there14:03
abhishekkI know :D14:03
abhishekkmoving ahead14:03
abhishekk#topic release/periodic jobs update14:03
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rosmaitaabhishekk: i somehow missed the connection info, do yo have it?14:04
abhishekkrosmaita, yes14:04
abhishekkZoom Info:14:04
abhishekkhttps://zoom.us/j/2146866821?pwd=aDlpOXd5MXB3cExZWHlROEJURzh0QT0914:04
abhishekkMeeting ID: 214 686 682114:04
abhishekkPasscode: Victoria14:04
abhishekkFind your local number: https://zoom.us/u/8BRrV14:04
rosmaitagreat, thanks14:04
abhishekknp14:04
abhishekkWallaby milestone 1 - 3 weeks away14:05
abhishekkwe need to work on specs correction and pending reviews during this period14:05
abhishekkMore about priorities in following topic14:05
abhishekkPeriodic jobs all green this week14:05
abhishekknot a single failure14:05
jokke \\o \o/ o// o/714:06
abhishekkyep \o/14:06
abhishekkMoving to next topic14:06
abhishekk#topic Milestone 1 priorities14:06
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abhishekkCorrect spec for cluster-awareness14:06
abhishekkNeed to reform spec with suggestions from the PTG14:06
abhishekkCorrect spec for cache-api14:06
abhishekkSame here14:07
jokkeyes, I'm working on splitting that spec to two14:07
abhishekkcool14:07
jokkecluster awareness that is14:07
abhishekkack14:07
jokkethe cache api spec I did put some comments in earlier this week14:07
abhishekkYes, I reverted to those comments14:08
abhishekkwill start working on it around next week14:08
abhishekkI need to write spec/spec lite for new endpoint to display tasks information14:08
abhishekkAlso we need to release glance-store to unblock multistore cinder functional test cases14:09
abhishekkI will put release patch early next week14:09
jokkecool, feel free to tap me in to that tasks info spec when you get to it14:09
abhishekkand last is sync with RBAC popup team to check/understand the progress, requirements14:10
abhishekkjokke, ack, I will14:10
jokkeThis last point really worries me14:10
abhishekkThis should be like we need to pull rabbit from the hat14:10
jokkeI think you had some discussions already, mind to shed some light to it?14:11
abhishekkNot much, that meeting was related to testing/tempest for RBAC14:11
jokkeah14:11
abhishekkpopup team have bi-weekly meeting on every thursday around 1800 UTC14:12
rosmaitajokke: the community goal is very simple14:12
abhishekkwhich is today14:12
SteapI think one of the people involved in RBAC should be in a downstream meeting next week as well btw14:12
rosmaitaunless i completely misunderstand it14:12
abhishekkrosmaita, that is what I want to get it clear today14:12
rosmaitacommunity goal is just to use policy.yaml as the default policy file14:13
jokkerosmaita: I'm not worried about that community goal for this cycle. I'm very much worried about the expectation that we can just flip to this keystone ocntrolled RBAC some miraculous way after14:13
rosmaitaok, give me a minute to find the proposal, it wasn't merged yet when i looked yseterday14:13
abhishekkwhich is glance already doing14:13
rosmaitajokke: i understand, but i think that is a downstream concern?14:13
jokkerosmaita: IIUC that was discussed being the follow up community goal for next cycle14:14
abhishekkrosmaita, even it will be concern for upstream (for next cycle) if we didn't started planning14:14
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rosmaitajokke: i really don't like they way the community has been handling the policy stuff as a series of "stealth" goals14:14
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jokkerosmaita: not only the policy stuff, but yeah lets not go there now ;P14:15
rosmaitabut yeah, probably next cycle will be to make all projects use "consistent and secure" policy config14:15
rosmaitagoal proposal (text): https://review.opendev.org/75988114:15
rosmaitamove to 'accepted': https://review.opendev.org/#/c/760957/14:15
rosmaitasample deprecation warnings: https://review.opendev.org/760956/14:15
patchbotpatch 760956 - governance - Adding reno and warnings example for JSON->YAML go... (MERGED) - 3 patch sets14:15
patchbotpatch 760957 - governance - Select JSON to YAML goal for Wallaby cycle (MERGED) - 2 patch sets14:15
patchbotpatch 759881 - governance - Add goal for migrate RBAC policy format from JSON ... (MERGED) - 3 patch sets14:15
rosmaitaok, looks like goal has merged14:16
abhishekk:D14:16
jokkeyup, and like you said, very well kept secret so there wouldn't be any community discussion around it14:16
abhishekkSleepless nights ahead14:17
Steapjokke: you're killing me :)14:17
rosmaitaso for the goal, my understanding is there are 3 parts:14:17
jokkeabhishekk: not for me, too old for that. I'm happy to review any contributions interested parties present ;)14:18
rosmaita1 make sure the policy file is generated from policies-in-code as YAML format14:18
rosmaita(that's done)14:18
abhishekkjokke, :D14:18
rosmaita2 make sure the default policy file glance looks for is named 'policy.yaml'14:18
jokkerosmaita: I think that's done as well14:18
rosmaita(not sure if we do that ourselves, or if oslo.policy or oslo.config will do that)14:19
rosmaitajokke: we need to check, i added custom code to cinder in stein to do that14:19
rosmaita3 add an upgrade check for presence of policy.json14:19
rosmaitaand actually 414:19
abhishekkwe are ok for step 2 as well14:19
rosmaita4 deprecation notice for JSON support14:20
rosmaita(which is kind of weird since yaml is a superset of json, but whatever)14:20
jokkerosmaita: I'm sure as part of the goal evaluation there is tempest tests in place for that and we will be let known if the service doesn't perform as expected ;)14:20
abhishekkwhere this notice should be shown, in Reno???14:20
rosmaitayes, there's a sample in one of those patches14:20
abhishekkack14:21
Steaprosmaita: this all seems "almost done"14:21
Steapis there really not much more to the whole RBAC thing?14:21
abhishekksome of the glance tests are using policy.json :D14:21
rosmaitaSteap: yes, the upstream goal is very modest14:21
abhishekkSteap, its just start of the mess14:21
Steaphehehe14:21
Steapoh ok so for one of the next cycles, it will be much worse14:21
Steapbut this cycle's goal is modest, I see14:21
abhishekkreal picture is far different14:22
jokkeabhishekk: yeah, the good news is that if we deprecate the json support this cycle we have until about c or d cycle to fix those tests before any removal happens :P14:22
abhishekk:P14:22
abhishekkI will attend today's meeting14:24
abhishekkthat's it for today14:25
abhishekkMoving to Open discussion14:25
abhishekk#topic Open discussion14:25
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abhishekkFriday and Monday is holiday in India due to Diwali festival14:25
abhishekkI will not be around from today midnight till Tuesday morning14:26
rosmaitahappy Diwali!14:26
SteapEnjoy the time off!14:26
jokkeHope you will have great diwali with family!14:26
abhishekkthank you \o/,14:26
abhishekkLets wrap early if nothing is pending for discussion14:27
jokkeJut make sure you keep watchful eye on them candles and don't eat too much sweets :P14:28
abhishekkjokke, rosmaita, Steap ^^14:28
abhishekk:D14:28
jokkeNothing from me atm.14:28
rosmaitanothing from me14:28
Steapnothing from me14:28
abhishekkcool14:28
SteapI'll be worried in the next cycles with the RBAC stuff :)14:28
abhishekkhave a nice weekend all14:28
abhishekkhold your breath :D14:29
jokkeThanks everyone14:29
abhishekkthank you, see you next week14:29
abhishekk#endmeeting14:29
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gagehugo#startmeeting security15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov 12 15:00:39 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'15:00
gagehugo#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/security-agenda agenda15:01
fungiohai15:01
gagehugoo/15:01
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fungimight be just us15:06
fungipeople may have been confused by local time changes15:07
gagehugoI am still confused15:07
gagehugo#topic Nov 26th meeting15:07
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gagehugoSince it's thanksgiving in the US, I will cancel that week's meeting15:07
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fungiworks for me15:11
fungii'll likely be around, but will probably be trying to stay off the computer15:11
gagehugosame15:11
gagehugo#topic open discussion15:11
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gagehugofungi: anything for this week?15:11
fungi#link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901207 Application credentials of other users can be deleted when knowing the ID15:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1901207 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Application credentials of other users can be deleted when knowing the ID" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad)15:13
fungi#link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1902917 Anti-spoofing bypass using Open vSwitch15:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1902917 in OpenStack Security Advisory "Anti-spoofing bypass using Open vSwitch" [Undecided,Incomplete]15:13
fungi#link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903531 Update of neutron-server breaks compatibility to previous neutron-agent version15:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1903531 in neutron "Update of neutron-server breaks compatibility to previous neutron-agent version" [Critical,Confirmed]15:13
fungithose have all been made public since the last meeting, i think15:13
fungii don't see any others15:15
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fungiadministrative changes for opendev's gerrit have been proceeding too15:18
fungi#link https://docs.opendev.org/opendev/system-config/latest/sysadmin.html#gerrit-admins Split admin/non-admin Gerrit accounts15:18
fungithe gerrit admin accounts no longer have openids logins, and admins are using separate accounts for non-administrative day to day interactions15:19
fungiwe're also trying out launchpad's two-factor authentication option15:20
fungii've purchased a pair of purism librem keys (nitrokey clones with some additional features in firmware) as totp authenticators, but running into typical bleeding-edge/early-adopter hardware support challenges15:21
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gagehugointeresting15:22
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gagehugoyeah, 2FA is probably a good path forward haha15:24
gagehugohttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/759940/ is still in review15:27
patchbotpatch 759940 - keystone - Hide AccountLocked exception from end users - 3 patch sets15:27
fungiis the tempest failure related or random?15:28
gagehugorandom I think, it failed 4 mins in running15:28
fungiahh, okay15:28
fungijust wondering if that's why it's not garnered any reviews yet15:29
fungimight be worth bringing the security relevancy to the attention of keystone reviewers15:29
gagehugoOnce it passes I'll bug some keystone reviewers15:29
gagehugothanks fungi: have a good rest of the week!15:33
gagehugo#endmeeting15:33
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fungithanks gagehugo!15:33
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