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| abhishekk | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 19 14:00:14 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| jokke | o/ | 14:00 |
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| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | Short agenda today | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | Might be finished within 15-20 minutes | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | waiting couple of minutes for others to join | 14:01 |
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| abhishekk | Looks like just us :D | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | lets start | 14:03 |
| jokke | :) | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | #topic release/periodic jobs update | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release/periodic jobs update (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| abhishekk | Wallaby milestone 1 - 2 weeks away | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | I am going to tag glance-store release next week on Monday to unblcok cinder multistore functional tests | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | Periodic jobs 1 failure this week | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | Will go through logs after the meeting | 14:04 |
| jokke | kk, was jus gonna ask if something we need to be worried about or just glitch | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:04 |
| jokke | Hi Brian | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | sorry i'm late | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | no need to worry at the moment | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | no problem rosmaita :D | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | #topic Milestone 1 priorities | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Milestone 1 priorities (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:05 | |
| abhishekk | Reform cluster awareness specs | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | Reform cache-api specs (very less priority) | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | Lite spec for task API for general user (mostly just like task show API) | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | I will try to put this lite spec by Monday, at the moment working on PoC | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | Other than this, kindly go through glance-specs patches, I have asked couple of contributors to file lite specs for their work | 14:07 |
| jokke | I will have the cluster awareness spacs up either today or tomorrow, likely today | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | cool | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | Moving ahead | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | #topic RBAC | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RBAC (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:07 | |
| rosmaita | everybody's favorite topic! | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | :P | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | I have attended Open hour meeting this week and cleared some of my doubts | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | No need to have policies close to API layer | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | At the moment they said there is no need to refactor our policy layer much | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | WIP patch - https://review.opendev.org/763208 | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | I will discuss this patch with lbragstad for the inputs and direction | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | Upstream goal wise we are on track and just need to submit one reno saying we are using policy.yaml than policy.json | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | This we will address while releasing milestone 1 for glance | 14:10 |
| jokke | yeah | 14:10 |
| Steap | Is the upstream goal for W to implement the 4 "basic" persona? | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | i think there are 5? | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | Upstream goal for W is to use policy.yaml instead of policy.json | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | 3 project scope, 2 system scope | 14:11 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | lbragstad, I have added you as a reviewer to WIP patch | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | kindly have a look and let me know your suggestions | 14:12 |
| lbragstad | will do - thank you for starting that process abhishekk | 14:13 |
| Steap | rosmaita: damn, on Tuesday it was 4, now it's 5 | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | Steap: it's almost as bad as covid | 14:13 |
| lbragstad | the 5th is kind of a noop | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | lbragstad: what do you mean? | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | lbragstad, no worries, there is lot to do :D | 14:14 |
| lbragstad | so - we have system admin, system member, system reader, project member, and project reader | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | lbragstad: so system-member is useless, but project admin is ++ | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | no project admin? | 14:14 |
| lbragstad | based on feedback from the groups we've talked to so far, project admin is something we can do later | 14:15 |
| lbragstad | rosmaita and yes, system-member is essentially another name for system-reader since member implies reader | 14:15 |
| lbragstad | but - it is useful if a deployment wants to offload some administrative functionality from system admin to system member (all they have to do is supply the override) | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | well, and test the heck out of it | 14:15 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | ok, but the key issue is what personas are "required"? | 14:16 |
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| lbragstad | system admin, system reader, project member, and project reader | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool | 14:16 |
| lbragstad | everything that "project admins" do today should get refactored into system admin | 14:17 |
| jokke | rosmaita: abhishekk: didn't we remove the "tenant_is_owner" config option and made it default? And IIUC project == tenant so we we should not have anything different between project member and project admin, the reader is going to bitch and a half to ensure | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | jokke: we deprecated it, now sure if it was actually removed | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | Need to check whether we have removed it or not | 14:18 |
| jokke | ^^ and od we have migration in place for those who did use user as owner :| | 14:18 |
| lbragstad | jokke can you elaborate on the concerns for reader? | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | no, we were not going to do a migration | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | i think we said so in the deprecation notice | 14:19 |
| jokke | lbragstad: our policies are all over the place between API and actual db calls. To actually ensure that there is no changes to happen for what ever gets scoped as reader is not just looking the API call type. Specially as we have lazy store converts in a place that would cause even normal listing by reader to be denied | 14:21 |
| lbragstad | ok - interesting... | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | jokke: just checked, deprecation specified no migration path : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/552642/ | 14:21 |
| lbragstad | i need to take a harder look at glance - but i'll see if i can scrub up an example | 14:22 |
| jokke | rosmaita: hmm-m ok was it just deprecated as signalling "please, don't use" or were we actually planning to remove that? | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | well, actually the deprecation release note doesn't say that, but the warning in the log does | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | and as usual, its not removed yet :D | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | who was the dumbass who wrote that release note | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | actually, i blame the reviewers | 14:23 |
| jokke | rosmaita: was it me or you? | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | it was me | 14:23 |
| jokke | :P | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | but you +2d it! | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i'm pretty sure we took an operator survey about it, so there was definitely notice that we did not plan a DB migration | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | lbragstad, thank you, that will be much helpful | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | jokke: we were definitely planning to remove | 14:25 |
| jokke | cause if we do not remove that and stop supporting user owned images, the reader will become even more difficult | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | i think we should do it now | 14:25 |
| lbragstad | abhishekk if i don't followup with you later today - i'll make a note to sync up with glance early next week | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | lbragstad, great | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | jokke: ++ | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: i suggest prioritizing removing owner_is_tenant | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | some one should put a patch to remove it | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | Steap: ^^ how are you set on time? | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, ack | 14:26 |
| jokke | or not difficult per se, we just can't do project reader and grand read access to all project members as that would be quite horrific security violation | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | no, we don't want to mess with it at all | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | let's remove it and not worry | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:27 |
| jokke | rosmaita: abhishekk: just note on the removal. Specially as there is no migration path we need to make sure we don't accept user as owner after that config option is removed and basically render all images still in that state unusable unles the owner is changed | 14:29 |
| Steap | rosmaita: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | jokke, ack | 14:30 |
| jokke | Steap: I think he means, "Want to take nice lil upstream task on?" very easy and simple, you just gotta remove one config option :P | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | Steap: i am asking you to do the work for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/550096/2/specs/rocky/approved/glance/spec-lite-deprecate-owner_is_tenant.rst | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | it's probably checked like 500 places in the code, though | 14:31 |
| Steap | haha | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | (did i say that out loud?) | 14:31 |
| Steap | ok I'll take a look at it | 14:31 |
| Steap | (have I doomed myself?) | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | it shouldn't be too bad code-wise, there will be a lot of tests to remove/refactor, i suspect | 14:32 |
| abhishekk | Steap, I will be around | 14:32 |
| Steap | $ git grep owner_is_tenant |wc -l | 14:33 |
| Steap | 21 | 14:33 |
| Steap | seems < 500 | 14:33 |
| jokke | not too bad then | 14:33 |
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| abhishekk | awesome, all the best :D | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | cool, i look forward to seeing your patch tomorrow | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | that's it for today | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | Moving to open discussion | 14:34 |
| Steap | rosmaita: sure thing, boss | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | #topic Open discussion | 14:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:34 | |
| abhishekk | anything else ?? | 14:34 |
| jokke | yes | 14:34 |
| jokke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/762498/ Stable backport question | 14:34 |
| jokke | We'd like to have this downstream in OSP 16 and least work would be if we can backport it to Train | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | Yes | 14:35 |
| jokke | Question is, how is the new backport rules with all the old stable branches around etc. Can we actually do it? | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | IMO we can backport upto two stable branches | 14:36 |
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| abhishekk | as this was done in victoria we can backport it upto Train | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | i think you can backport it as far as you want | 14:37 |
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| rosmaita | small change, low risk, only affects one glance_store driver | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | plus, Sean already +2d the ussuri backport | 14:38 |
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| abhishekk | that means you can +2 it :D | 14:39 |
| jokke | Cool, I thought it should be fine, but wanted to make sure | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | cool | 14:39 |
| jokke | and makes Steap's life lot easier if we get it all the way to train :P | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:39 |
| Steap | jokke: you can also not open a downstream bug :) | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | anything else, before closing | 14:41 |
| jokke | but that's all from me | 14:41 |
| Steap | yeah | 14:41 |
| jokke | apart from lets get that done :P | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | :P | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | Steap, anything else? | 14:42 |
| lbragstad | abhishekk do you mind if i update the topic on your patch to secure-rbac? | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | lbragstad, no problem | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | thank you all | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | see you next week, have a nice weekend | 14:43 |
| jokke | thanks everyone | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | bye! | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | #endmeeting | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 19 14:44:25 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-11-19-14.00.html | 14:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-11-19-14.00.txt | 14:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-11-19-14.00.log.html | 14:44 |
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