Tuesday, 2020-12-15

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yasufumHi tacker team08:01
keiko-khi08:01
takahashi-tschi08:01
LiangLuHi08:01
hyunsikyangHi08:02
hyunsikyanglong time no see08:02
yasufumhi08:02
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masazumi-otaHi08:02
manpreetHi08:03
hyunsikyangsorry for absent last few tacker meeting..08:03
yasufumno problem!08:04
yasufum#startmeeting tacker08:04
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 15 08:04:43 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:04
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yasufumWe have five topics on our etherpad today.08:05
yasufum#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting08:05
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yasufumMy three topics are just FIY and asking review, it no need to discuss actually08:07
keiko-kMe too. my topic is also just FYI.08:07
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yasufumkeiko-k: could you expain shortly?08:08
keiko-kyes08:08
keiko-kthose 2 specs are planned in Wallaby cycle. However, because of the priority of development items from our team,08:09
keiko-kwe postpone to develop those spec items in wallaby cycle08:10
keiko-khttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker-specs/+/75965808:10
keiko-k https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker-specs/+/75965508:10
keiko-kWe will plan to implement them in X cycle or later.08:11
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yasufumthanks for sharing08:13
keiko-kwe will update both existing blueprint and spec appropriately.08:14
keiko-kSo right now I do not make the spec `abandoned` and08:15
keiko-kand not delete blueprints.08:15
yasufumOK08:15
keiko-kThat's all from my side.08:15
yasufumI think there is no problem if it is not released in wallaby because no plans other features depend on them.08:16
keiko-kright08:17
yasufumgo to the next topic if there are no comments08:17
yasufum#topic tosca-parser-heat-translator-installation08:18
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yasufumAs I suggested in previous meeting, I have uploaded a patch to make install these packages from git repo.08:19
yasufumIt looks working fine.08:19
yasufum#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/76529608:19
yasufumPlease review  and give a comment!08:20
yasufumIf no comments, go to the next topic.08:21
yasufum#topic lower-constraints-issue08:22
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yasufumAs you may know, we have had a failure in a test for lower-constraints08:23
yasufumIt is because of recent update of pip on zuul08:23
yasufumversion 20.3.1, in which new dependency resolver is introduced.08:24
yasufumThis failure is happened not only in tacker, but also other projects.08:25
yasufumFor tacker, I have already fixed for master branch, but I am not sure If we should fix on stable branches or not actually.08:26
yasufumIn addition, discussion for dropping lower-constraints test on ML.08:26
yasufumis going on08:26
yasufumSo, I would like to consider while looking the discussion for making the decision later.08:27
yasufumI appreciate if you comment, now or on etherpad later is OK.08:27
yasufumPlease refer 12th item for the details.08:27
hyunsikyangok:)08:28
yasufumthanks08:29
yasufumany comment?08:29
yasufumOK08:29
yasufumMy last item is tiny.08:30
yasufumNext week is the last of our meeting this year.08:30
yasufumWe need to fix when we start in the next year.08:30
yasufumI will update candidate date on etherpad later, so please your comment.08:31
hyunsikyangok. Thank you for your contribution!08:32
takahashi-tscSure, thanks.08:32
yasufumI will announce on ML after decided.08:32
LiangLusure!08:32
yasufumtakahashi-tsc: Please go to the next topic08:33
takahashi-tscSure.08:33
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yasufum#topic add-new-ft08:33
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takahashi-tscI'd like to propose to add new FT set. See https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/76616208:34
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takahashi-tscMain purpose is we need new test environments with some GrantAPI settings of Tacker. We should separate test env.08:35
takahashi-tscit can also solve FT time problem.08:36
takahashi-tscI remember that our FT time is about 2hours, it is near the limitation of OpenStack Zuul (3 hours)08:37
takahashi-tscIn addition, I found a patch which purpose seems similar.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/76688608:38
takahashi-tscIt is for K8s. I think it is also needed.08:38
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takahashi-tscDiscussion points are..  1. Do you agree with this?  2. If yes, do we need some new rules or developer docs of FT?08:40
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hyunsikyangIn my opinion, I think that some part of supporting K8s cluster setup is not scope of MANO. But, we are implementing ths feature, we also need FT for that. At first, we listup the item for FT and then we can discuss what item we will support.08:43
yasufumThanks08:45
yasufumI think adding new tests run in pallalel is nice idea to avoid timeout error.08:45
yasufumbasically08:45
hyunsikyangI aggree with that point:)08:46
yasufumbut now I am not sure about rules and documentation actually08:46
takahashi-tscI mean that docs which show the FT set list and their explanations.08:48
takahashi-tscList maybe e.g. "Standard", "Separated NFVO", and "Kubernetes".08:48
takahashi-tscI think developer can understand it checking .zuul.yaml. But it is better to explain to developers.08:49
takahashi-tscI'm not sure it is mandatory or not, so I want Tacker team's comment.08:50
yasufumsounds good for me08:50
LiangLuI believe that is really nice for developers08:51
yasufumI have just imagined it is helpful if we have sequence diagram or so to understand our test flow.08:52
yasufumtakahashi-tsc: anyway, I understand your suggestion08:53
takahashi-tscOK, so my plan is, first I add new FT set (https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/766162), next is make draft docs of FT.08:54
takahashi-tscAnd I'd like to discuss contexts of FT docs with Tacker members.08:55
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yasufumCould you add your idea of how to organize the docs in 7th items on the etherpad if possible?08:59
yasufum“Revise documents” from yoshito-ito08:59
takahashi-tscSure, i wrote note now, And i'll update it later.09:00
yasufumThanks. I will check it.09:00
yasufumIf no more comments, I would like close this meeting.09:01
yasufumthanks for joining09:03
yasufumbye09:03
hyunsikyangbye09:03
takahashi-tscbye09:03
yasufum#endmeeting09:03
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