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| abhishekk | #startmeeting glance | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 28 14:01:06 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:01 |
| jokke | o/ | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | lets wait couple of minutes for others | 14:02 |
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| rosmaita | sorry i'm late | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | no worries | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | I guess dansmith will be late as well due to daylight saving | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | lets start | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | #topic release/periodic jobs update | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release/periodic jobs update (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| abhishekk | Final release of non-client libraries - 4 weeks | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | We don't have major changes in glance-store this cycle | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | so we could be good on this front | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | Milestone 3 - 5 weeks | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | that is coming up soon! | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | We have couple of specs to review/approve and need to focus on RBAC stuff in this milestone | 14:05 |
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| abhishekk | yeah, lot of work to do :/ | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | Periodic jobs - green this week | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | Moving ahead | 14:05 |
| jokke | nice | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | #topic Important specs reviews | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Important specs reviews (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:06 | |
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| abhishekk | Distributed image import | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance-specs/+/763574 | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | So there are two approaches for this | 14:07 |
| jokke | Lets lead the elephant into the store right away. | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:07 |
| jokke | Abhishek described my motivations pretty well in his comment earlier this week | 14:07 |
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| abhishekk | 1. Use locations table to store staging information and reuse most of the code | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | 2. Use reserved property to store staging host | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | I have added my findings on both the approaches on the specs | 14:08 |
| jokke | The way I see this is we have pretty much three options how to move on: | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | go ahead | 14:09 |
| jokke | 1) we utilize the locations like outlined in the spec, which will allow to clean up lots of techical dept we've had hanging around since we introduced the Interoperable Image Import | 14:09 |
| jokke | 2) We acknowledge that we have absolutely no intention to clear the depts we have been cumulating when the opportunity comes, continue with Dan's proposal of quick and easy and remove all the remarks of TODOs etc. And we stop in the future merging MVPs expecting that when the feature is worked it needs to be complete as we will never finish it anyways. | 14:11 |
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| jokke | 3) We agree that we haven't came to an agreement how to handle this by the spec deadline, and include this work to be bikeshed again in Xena. | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | well, #3 is not a good option | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | For option 1, we don't have much time in hand | 14:12 |
| jokke | And I'm by no means blaming Dan or anyone in specific for us cumulating that tech dept, I'm first to admit being as guilty as any. It's just not sustainable whn we never get back to the items we agree to postpone | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | I would like to go with option 2 but in good manner, We should go with reserved property and come back in Xena to use locations | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | I will be volunteering to do this work in Xena | 14:14 |
| jokke | abhishekk: you know as well as I do that it will never happen | 14:14 |
| jokke | And we're doing the work multiple times just because we've been bikeshedding and not having the conversation of why for months | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | sadly its true, but I will put my best to do it | 14:15 |
| jokke | so if we decide to tackle this in Xena, fine by me, lets do it in Xena | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, do you have any suggestions? | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | when you say "tackle this" you mean the refactoring, or the whole spec? | 14:16 |
| jokke | Or lets get the spec agreed upon and I can get to work to make it happen. I'm more than happy to take Dan's poc and refactoring it to clean up the mess we left behind earlier | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's the key question ... do you think there's time to do that in W? | 14:17 |
| jokke | rosmaita: I'm saying if we decide to finish this in Xena, lets push this work to Xena and stop wasting our Wallaby to put any of it in. | 14:17 |
| jokke | rosmaita: yeah, the changes, specially as abhishekk pointed out that we could use locations metadata instead of having dedicated column, are fairly trivial. It's tuching few places like staging, import, delete but it's not weeks of work taking the basis of Dan's work | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | jokke, if possible could you push your PoC on top of dan's work? | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | i would be against pushing this to Xena (where "this" == "Distributed image import") | 14:19 |
| jokke | Most of it is deleting 20 lines of hacky code and replacing it with single location. call | 14:19 |
| jokke | in all of those places | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | quick question ... what do image locations look like now? I mean a JSON-ish sketch | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | like is is_active its own field? | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | or is it in the location metadata? | 14:21 |
| jokke | iirc it is its own field | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | Ok, so If jokke manages to push his PoC around/before next weeks meeting, then we will take a call accordingly in next weeks meeting | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | is_active is a flag in code which tells image whether to set image active or not | 14:22 |
| jokke | ohh, that's why it's fying in the code on it's own rather than part of the metadtaa | 14:22 |
| jokke | flying ... metadata | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | kind of | 14:23 |
| dansmith | I'd definitely like to see the 20 lines it removes and replaces with one, because maybe that will help me understand | 14:23 |
| dansmith | I looked at the store code last night, | 14:23 |
| dansmith | trying to figure out how I could fix the current bug of not cleaning up stage residue after a stage..delete | 14:23 |
| dansmith | and it looks to me like it will require new store methods and support, to be able to list items in the store so we can compare against deleted images | 14:24 |
| jokke | but basically when staging we want to have something like (data, is_active=False, staging=True) and if staging == True: skip hashing and set the staging host to the metadata | 14:24 |
| dansmith | it definitely does not seem like a flexible interface for something that can never be more than a local file on disk to me | 14:24 |
| dansmith | so we're going to use the store metadata (but create an entry first) instead of the image metadata which is already here, and protected (by my other series)? | 14:25 |
| jokke | dansmith: that's why if we have location record for the data, when we iterate through that, we can just fire delete from store call to the host listed in the metadata and get that cleaned. without doing it that way we would need pretty much new api for it | 14:25 |
| dansmith | we don't have to add a new api for it, my series proxies delete | 14:26 |
| jokke | dansmith: the location metadata is all internal anyways. It's not something user would be able to set in the first place | 14:26 |
| dansmith | which has to happen anyway | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | I think we should wait for PoC which will help all of us for better understanding | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | like dansmith's | 14:27 |
| dansmith | sure, I'd definitely like to see a PoC | 14:27 |
| dansmith | and if it's really less work or complex, a delta patch on top should make it super easy | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | Based on the progress I will take a call in next meeting | 14:28 |
| dansmith | but I haven't even gotten any real review on my series yet, | 14:28 |
| dansmith | it's tempest-tested, devstack-supported, | 14:28 |
| dansmith | and given that rate, I'd be super concerned about landing this in this cycle with any more confusion or discussion of approach | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | sorry for that, I was away most of the time, will try to put some time in this week | 14:28 |
| dansmith | so it surely seems like if what we care about is fixing this, we should plan to land this, with or without a delta on top to see the locations as a better way | 14:29 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: yeah I know, it's just frustrating | 14:29 |
| jokke | dansmith: I'm more than happy to -2 that series with note of waiting ofr the psec to be agreed upon if it makes you to feel any better ;) | 14:29 |
| jokke | for .. spec | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | jokke: do you have a new keyboard? more typos than usual | 14:30 |
| dansmith | jokke: if you think that's the best way... | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | Lets conclude, revisit this next week | 14:30 |
| jokke | rosmaita: kind of, on the laptop kb atm. | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | next spec is Task show API | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance-specs/+/763740 | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | i wonder if we should have a quick videoconf tomorrow maybe | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | i hate to see this pushed off another week | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | I think I have covered all the suggestions now | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, ack, we need to justify both the approaches and which will be cleared around next week | 14:32 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: my +1 on that is implied given that I submitted recently, but happy to +1 again if you ant | 14:32 |
| abhishekk | dansmith, thanks, I will start on implementation if I get nod from all the reviewers here | 14:32 |
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| abhishekk | It should take couple of days for me to finish, will start on it anyway | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, jokke please have a look | 14:33 |
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| rosmaita | abhishekk: sorry, i will review after my next meeting | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | moving ahead | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, thanks | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | #topic Secure RBAC status | 14:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Secure RBAC status (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:34 | |
| abhishekk | If distribute image import is elephant in room then this is hippo standing in the same room | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | We have PoC here, https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/glance+topic:secure-rbac | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | this room is getting pretty crowded | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | and I am testing it and recording results here, https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/glance-rbac-testing | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | I would like to have other eyes on this as well | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | also https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/764074 | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | nova-ceph-multistore job is failing continuously on this patch | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | I didn't get time to dig into it, but we also need to get this in to satisfy upstream goal for W | 14:36 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: several patches fixed some things in the multistore job earlier this week, | 14:37 |
| dansmith | have you rechecked lately? | 14:37 |
| dansmith | all cinder-related things, interestingly :) | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | yes, yesterday | 14:37 |
| dansmith | okay, I'll have a look | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | thank you | 14:38 |
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| abhishekk | Moving in Open discussion | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | #topic Open discussion | 14:38 |
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| jokke | yeah, most of those rbac patches has been my waiting list until tests are fixed | 14:38 |
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| abhishekk | jokke, I will be looking into tests | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | I will sync with lbragstad for that | 14:39 |
| jokke | ++ | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | I went through last weeks meeting logs and found that Bug scrub was scheduled on 26th January | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | oops | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | which was public holiday for me and I was on PTO on 25th as well | 14:40 |
| jokke | That's what we agreed at the beginning of the cycle, the Tuesday after milestone week ;) | 14:40 |
| jokke | yeah, had no idea it hit on the Indian public holiday | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | so did anyone do any scrubbing? | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | So we should have this bug scrub on coming Tuesday? | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | yeah, I failed to notify about that :( | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | i won't be able to join, i have too much going on in cinder | 14:42 |
| jokke | abhishekk: I don't mind the day, we just really should take a day to look through and ee what's in there and how if we should tackle and prioritize them | 14:42 |
| jokke | The reason we greed not-Monday was that basically most of Irish public holidays hits on Mondays | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:43 |
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| jokke | but the next one is couple of months away | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | So lets have the Bug scrub on coming Tuesday | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | I will create one etherpad and share it on #openstack-glance channel | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | i am not anti-bug-scrub, but i'd prefer to see us do something that will cause us to come to a consensus on the distributed image import work | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | because right now, i don't see how we will have any new info about that at the next glance meeting | 14:44 |
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| abhishekk | we will have it | 14:45 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: we will have what? | 14:45 |
| abhishekk | the PoC with locations approach | 14:45 |
| dansmith | okay, and as a delta on top of mine? | 14:46 |
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| abhishekk | In next week we will finalize the approach and move ahead | 14:46 |
| abhishekk | dansmith, yes | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | oh, ok, so if that's available by Tuesday, we can discuss | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | that sounds good to me | 14:46 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: okay are you doing that or jokke ? I didn't see anyone say they would actually do it | 14:46 |
| abhishekk | dansmith, it will be jokke, that what we discussed earlier | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | would probably be good for jokke to do it, he has a strong opinion on what needs to change to harden the locations code | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool | 14:47 |
| dansmith | okay, great | 14:47 |
| abhishekk | anything else for discussion? | 14:47 |
| dansmith | yes, | 14:48 |
| abhishekk | go ahead | 14:48 |
| dansmith | this is pretty trivial and I think everyone agrees, can we please get it reviewed? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/771990 | 14:48 |
| jokke | Yeah, I have plan ready I have been just waiting for us to stop the arguing and make to go/no-go call for m to start working on it | 14:48 |
| dansmith | this is also tested by tempest now: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tempest/+/771071 | 14:48 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, jokke kindly review | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | ack | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | cool, anything else? | 14:50 |
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| jokke | shall I just abandon the ceph spec as well? | 14:51 |
| jokke | or do you guys want to keep bikeshedding on that too? | 14:51 |
| abhishekk | I didn't have time to go through it, will look and comment on the specs | 14:51 |
| dansmith | are you talking about this? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance-specs/+/740980 | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:52 |
| dansmith | I haven't seen responses to the outstanding -1 comments | 14:52 |
| jokke | yup | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | will comment on the spec | 14:53 |
| rajivmucheli | Hi, i upgraded few regions to Victoria release, i see the below snippets in the logs (this spec was introduced in stein release), is this an issue ? do i need to enable any flags (node_staging_uri) to fix it ? | 14:54 |
| rajivmucheli | https://opendev.org/openstack/glance/commit/149ea050cc58f39eaf9b4660bb8f0271b99d03da | 14:54 |
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| rajivmucheli | 2021-01-28 07:11:53,935.935 32 WARNING glance.api.v2.images [req-07c8d1ec-f23a-4842-8d92-2e9b3a6aa8b1 4c8fc9f2c67c41e195ddebef32d4fa68 8eba81a5654c4bb2a86fde93ccc33cab - default 049d584cc5064a34ad7defa7b48b7903] After upload to backend, deletion of staged image data has failed because it cannot be found at | 14:54 |
| rajivmucheli | /tmp/staging//d21fcb46-27d1-4385-b20f-c2d0acd2d1dc | 14:54 |
| abhishekk | rajivmucheli, try setting node_staging_uri in your glance-api.conf under default section | 14:55 |
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| rajivmucheli | sure! | 14:56 |
| abhishekk | last 4 minutes | 14:56 |
| jokke | rajivmucheli: yeah, the node_staging_uri is needed for the image import 'glance-direct' and copy methods | 14:57 |
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| jokke | actually all of them I think | 14:57 |
| jokke | web-download picks it down there as well | 14:57 |
| abhishekk | copy methods are available only if multiple stores are configured | 14:57 |
| rajivmucheli | but i have only swift enabled, | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | I think rajivmucheli is still using single store and that's why node_staging_uri is required | 14:58 |
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| rajivmucheli | so the flag needs to be set for single or multiple store ? i use swift as backend, so its single store right ? | 14:59 |
| abhishekk | rajivmucheli, that flag requires for single store | 15:00 |
| jokke | rajivmucheli: it depends how your stores are configured in your config files | 15:00 |
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| abhishekk | it should start with file:///<your-staging-path> | 15:00 |
| rajivmucheli | okay, would this be related if these flags are enabled swift_buffer_on_upload = True, swift_upload_buffer_dir = /upload ? | 15:00 |
| jokke | if you have old style configs that is needed, if new multi-store approach then you need to configure the staging store | 15:00 |
| abhishekk | that is nothing to do with swift | 15:01 |
| abhishekk | out of time | 15:01 |
| abhishekk | lets move the glance channel | 15:01 |
| abhishekk | thank you all | 15:01 |
| jokke | Thanks all | 15:01 |
| abhishekk | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 28 15:01:30 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2021/glance.2021-01-28-14.01.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2021/glance.2021-01-28-14.01.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2021/glance.2021-01-28-14.01.log.html | 15:01 |
| fungi | gagehugo: glance folks are done now if we still wanted to meet this week | 15:02 |
| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 28 15:02:28 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:02 |
| gagehugo | thanks fungi | 15:02 |
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| fungi | any time | 15:03 |
| redrobot | \o | 15:03 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/security-agenda agenda | 15:03 |
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| fungi | i didn't have anything for this week | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | I don't have anything new either | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | haha | 15:12 |
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| gagehugo | Also double booked atm | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | redrobot: any updates? | 15:14 |
| redrobot | Nope, just lurking as usual. | 15:14 |
| redrobot | Don't forget to update your sudos | 15:14 |
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| gagehugo | redrobot fungi thanks! Have a good rest of the week! | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:15 |
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| fungi | thanks! | 15:15 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 28 15:15:29 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2021/security.2021-01-28-15.02.html | 15:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2021/security.2021-01-28-15.02.txt | 15:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2021/security.2021-01-28-15.02.log.html | 15:15 |
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