Tuesday, 2021-03-16

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yasufumhi tacker team08:01
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yasufum#startmeeting tacker08:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 16 08:03:52 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:03
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yasufumDo you have any topic today? Nothing on etherpad.08:05
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LiangLuIf no topics, could I call review for patches?08:07
LiangLuThe first one is https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/77944408:07
LiangLuThis patch is fixing typo error in setup.cfg and missing configure in etc/config-generator.conf08:07
takahashi-tscSorry for late, I'll check it soon.08:08
LiangLuThanks! takahashi-san!08:09
LiangLuOgawa-san has already gave a +2, I just want to call your review :)08:09
LiangLuAnother one is https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/77658608:09
LiangLuAs we discussed in previous meeting, this patch is uniting parameters for vnflcm-SOL-interfaces08:10
LiangLuThanks for Ogawa-san's comment, I've updated commit message regarding guidelines, could you please kindly check it again?08:12
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yasufumIt’s enqueued to my TODOs:)08:14
LiangLuAlso, Takahashi-san, I would like to call your review!08:14
LiangLuThat's all for my topic!08:15
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yasufumAny other topic?08:17
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yasufumwe have many patches remained to be reviewed for wallaby’s goal.08:19
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yasufumPlease continue to help for reviewing. Thanks.08:20
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yasufumI would like to close this meeting. Bye!08:21
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oneswig#startmeeting scientific-sig21:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 16 21:00:26 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
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oneswigGreetings, Americas region21:00
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martial_greetings Europe :)21:01
martial_oops wait21:02
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oneswigNo agenda has been set for today, as yet - was hoping to follow on from last week's discussion on JupyterHub but we don't have a guest speaker21:02
oneswigHi martial_, greetings21:02
oneswig#chair martial_21:02
openstackCurrent chairs: martial_ oneswig21:02
martial_actually did this end up being recorded ?21:02
trandlesHi all21:03
oneswigNot this time martial_ - I think a session could be done and recorded on this topic in future (PTG) but it was short notice to get everything presentable21:03
oneswighi ewimmer_ trandles21:03
oneswigverdurin has spoken today to connections at Compute Canada to follow up on Magic Castle and I think they'd like to join a session, but with a little more notice21:04
oneswigmartial_: what were you doing wrt P2302?  Is that the federation standard?21:06
martial_P2302 is the IEEE Federation standard indeed21:07
martial_we are working at multiple levels21:07
martial_on the document and the API at this point21:07
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martial_Document is moving along nicely21:07
martial_some differences from our CFRA work21:07
martial_as for the API, we need to have people who have experience with OpenAPI designed RESTful interfaces have a much deeper look to understand what we are missing21:08
oneswigWhat are the aims of the standard? What does it cover?21:09
jandersg'day o/21:09
martial_this mogning was a presentation to IEEEE about the status of the future standard21:09
martial_so "This standard defines topology, functions, and governance for cloud-to-cloud interoperability and federation. Topological elements include clouds, roots, exchanges (which mediate governance between clouds), and gateways (which mediate data exchange between clouds)."21:10
martial_#link https://standards.ieee.org/project/2302.html21:10
martial_in general it is about the means for clouds to have a common API to process information21:11
martial_there is obviously a lot of pre-agreements that need to come in place21:11
martial_hopefully this helps describe things a little more21:12
oneswigmediated governance... what does that mean, can you give an example?21:12
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martial_two levels: pre-agreed upon levels of access + a model to exchange information about status changes21:14
martial_we are not skipping the governance, SLAs, regulations, etc21:14
martial_those are still around and nothing will skip those21:15
oneswigThat sounds interesting.  How to manage the federated usage of a deleted user at other clouds is a challenge.21:15
martial_this is where each "Federation Hosting Service Operator" controls its local IdP and need to inform others of those status changes21:16
martial_(hopefully this makes sense)21:17
martial_today was a presentation to the IEEE of the status of the effort21:18
oneswigIf I'm running a cloud provider, is it my duty to tell all the other clouds if I delete a user?  Or is it their duty to ask me?21:18
oneswigCould be tricky either way I guess.  Interesting problems21:19
martial_exactly, agreements on billing are difficult21:20
martial_I note that we do not address this, mostly the mechanisms to enable it21:20
martial_Looks like they are saying it will be available on demand21:21
martial_#link https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=reg20.jsp&partnerref=mktgemail_0303&eventid=3028260&sessionid=1&key=C24196C68996F6DB7B0F4BE21A6FF2E4&regTag=1230562&V2=false&sourcepage=register21:22
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martial_what seemed to be the consensus from your jupyter talk?21:24
oneswigPeople described experiences using Zero-to-Jupyterhub or Magic Castle for Jupyterhub deployment21:25
oneswigThere were some useful shared experiences around management of user authentication and data access21:26
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b1airosorry, got caught up skimming RFP responses21:27
martial_#chair b1airo21:27
openstackCurrent chairs: b1airo martial_ oneswig21:27
martial_welcome Blair21:27
b1airohow goes it?21:28
oneswigb1airo: feel like waking up on Christmas day and unwrapping your presents?21:28
b1airoa little bit :-)21:28
jandersb1airo what is it for?21:28
trandlesreading RFPs feels like Christmas Day? I don't know what kind of responses you get, but it does not feeling like that to me usually.21:29
b1airorelated... anyone used an Apollo 2000 system with Ironic? 4 nodes with a shared "Rack Consolidation Module", i.e., they all share the same physical iLO management ports21:29
b1airoasking for a friend21:30
jandersbut each has a separate BMC IP right?21:31
oneswigBrings up a related matter for AOB, going back to slow SSH connections from 2 weeks ago - I have an answer21:31
b1airojanders: we're expanding our "capacity" HPC machine and building a new mixed BM/Virt multi-tenant platform21:31
b1airoit's always DNS21:31
jandersb1airo sounds like some onboard BMC mini-switch21:32
oneswigb1airo: in due course :-) and it wasn't DNS21:32
trandlesI've used Ironic with old Appro greenblades. It's kind of the same thing, one physical 1GigE connection for all 10 blades, but different MAC for each blade.21:32
b1airoyeah, it'll be that sort of thing no doubt21:33
jandersb1airo I think I've seen this on Dell C8000 platform, don't remember having issues with this21:33
jandersI just hope they don't do something with RedFish21:33
janderslike /redfish/v1/Systems/System.Embedded.[1-10] but in some non-standard way21:34
jandersif it's standard I think it should be allright but not that I ever used them21:34
jandersand nice i/r/t capacity machine + bm/virt21:34
janderssounds super cloudy21:34
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b1airosuper cloudy indeed janders21:35
martial_super cloudy sounds good that said :)21:35
jandersb1airo very cool! :)21:35
b1airoa key requirement is multi-tenant bare metal as we indeed to support multiple orgs with their own managed platforms21:36
b1airostepping away to get coffee..21:36
janderswill you be using IB or ethernet as the main intereconnect?21:36
janderstrandles was Apollo using a reasonable Redfish implementation when you were testing it?21:36
janders+1 for coffee, brb21:37
trandlesI've never used Apollo21:37
janderstrandles sorry misread Appro as Apollo. Clearly needing that coffee21:43
martial_coffee power :)21:47
oneswigI was working with some HPE blades with a recent project - the one with slow ssh connection times.21:47
oneswigTurns out the ILO was not communicating with the chassis controller firmware21:48
oneswigThe end result was that the blades were booting clocked at 180 MHz21:48
oneswigThat's why connection times (and everything else) was inexplicably slow21:48
oneswigdoh!  Thanks HPE.21:49
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oneswigI can laugh about it now...21:57
b1airojanders: ethernet at this point21:57
b1airointention is to leave potential for IB though21:57
oneswigNearly time y'all - final comments21:59
b1airowish me luck!21:59
trandlesOne quick note: I recruited a funded intern for the summer. He'll be working with the Ironic team on implementing kexec22:00
oneswigHave fun with it b1airo22:00
oneswigtrandles: that's great!  Looking forward to seeing it happen22:00
b1airoawesome trandles22:00
trandlesI'll drag him to one of these meetings when he gets started.22:01
oneswigalready looking forward to it22:01
oneswigOK thanks all22:01
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julianpSee y'all next time. :wave:22:02
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