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| abhishekk | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 18 14:00:07 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
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| abhishekk | lets wait couple of minutes for others | 14:00 |
| Steap | o/ | 14:00 |
| dansmith | Back to DST to I should be able to make these without special arrangements | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | I guess jokke will not be around due to public holiday | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | great | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | we have very short agenda today, so will be able to finish it quickly | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | cool, lets start | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | #topic Updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| abhishekk | Xena PTG planning etherpad | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | how many days do they celebrate St. Patrick's Day in Ireland? | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/xena-ptg-glance-planning | 14:02 |
| dansmith | rosmaita: just one 48-hour day | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | no Idea :P | 14:02 |
| Steap | rosmaita: they drink on Wednesday and wake up on Monday | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | sorry i asked | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | I have created planning etherpad and added some topics for discussion | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | If you have anything in mind then please update the etherpad accordingly | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, please let me know if we need cinder-glance discussion this time | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | probably ask rajat | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | cool, will ask him | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | there may be some cinder glance_store issues | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | ty | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | moving ahead | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | #topic release/periodic jobs update | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release/periodic jobs update (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:05 | |
| abhishekk | Glance M3 tagged (twice :D) | 14:05 |
| dansmith | heh | 14:05 |
| dansmith | good-n-tagged | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | due to some mistake, earlier we tagged the wrong version and later we corrected it, so thank you to all the involved parties for this | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | We are ready with RC1 patch as well | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | wow, you are moving fast! | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | So as far as there is no bug this will be our official wallaby candidate | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | \o/ | 14:07 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: and you want that on monday right? | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | so we can all relax for the next 2 weeks | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | dansmith, right | 14:07 |
| dansmith | cool | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | RC1 deadline, next week | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | RC1 status: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/glance-wallaby-m3-status | 14:07 |
| dansmith | rosmaita: when you get your homework done early, you get to go outside, yes :D | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | No need to look as we are good for RC1 | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | I had just created it for my understanding | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | dansmith: no outside for me, i will be using up all my relaxation time on cinder | 14:08 |
| dansmith | :/ | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | So again, I would like to thank you all the contributors and their hard work for what we achieved in this cycle | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, hopefully you will get it soon | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | ty | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | moving ahead | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | #topic Job housekeeping | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Job housekeeping (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:09 | |
| abhishekk | I guess this is added by Steap | 14:09 |
| Steap | yeah | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | I have just added comments on your patches | 14:10 |
| Steap | so the first link is an issue with the stable/victoria branch | 14:10 |
| Steap | jokke suggested we remove the lower constraints job | 14:10 |
| Steap | which seems easier than fixing all the dependencies to me :) | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | we just had one backport which is fixing this for us | 14:10 |
| Steap | oh | 14:11 |
| Steap | ok | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | I have refereed that in your comment | 14:11 |
| Steap | I see it now, thanks | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | cool | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | anything else? | 14:11 |
| Steap | the other patch is a simple that simplifies a bunch of tox commands | 14:11 |
| Steap | it also makes sure tox -epy39 works on my machine :) | 14:11 |
| Steap | as well as tox -efunctional-py39 | 14:12 |
| Steap | might be useful to anyone using a more recent version of Python on their dev machines | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | cool, will have a look | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | so if we get this patch in, dansmith you need to update the hash again | 14:12 |
| dansmith | ack | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | great, thank you Steap | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | moving to open discussion | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | #topic Open discussion | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:13 | |
| abhishekk | Just to update, I will not be around tomorrow and Monday | 14:13 |
| jokke | Just back to the lower constrains for a sec | 14:13 |
| dansmith | and I'll be gone tomorrow | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | will be checking mails frequently | 14:14 |
| jokke | (sorry just got my network back up) | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | jokke, I thought you are enjoying holiday | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | Steap: while you are working on tox.ini | 14:14 |
| jokke | I think the consensus is that the lower-constrains jobs are not useful in the stable branches and I do agree that we likely should drop them rather than keep the life support on them | 14:15 |
| jokke | abhishekk: that was yesterday | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | jokke: that is my understanding too | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | though i think there will be more discussion at today's tc meeting | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | ohh | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | they are optional in any case | 14:15 |
| jokke | I do like the idea to keep that job on the master. it makes sense, but for stable branches I'd be rather in favor of dropping them than keeping fixing them | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | I might slept for 48 hours :o | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: happy St. Patrick's Day | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | :P | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | i hear it lasts 48 hours | 14:16 |
| jokke | haha | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | yeah :D | 14:16 |
| Steap | rosmaita: yeah, while I'm working on it, ...? | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | jokke, rosmaita are you sure we don't need lower constraints on stable branches? | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: pretty sure | 14:17 |
| dansmith | we already have the fix, ahead of some critical backports, so let's not interrupt that landing | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | We need to remove it for all glance repo's and all active branches then | 14:17 |
| dansmith | but I agree I think the consensus is to drop them | 14:18 |
| dansmith | we can check with folks after this meeting | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | Steap: you might want to look at this: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/780692 | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | dansmith, no worries, we will approve it after current backport merges | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | if you use tox > 3.2.0, it has the ability to update itself and seed the testenvs it creates | 14:18 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: cool, I don't want lyarwood coming after me :) | 14:19 |
| jokke | abhishekk: at least based on the consensus of the community on the mailthread, I'm pretty sure it's not required job on any branch and everyone seems to be in favor of dropping it from stable. There is kind of "If you want to keep running and keeping it up to date, great but it's on you" attitude for master | 14:19 |
| Steap | rosmaita: oh, that seems like a fun bug :p | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | Steap: and pretty much all distros at this point have tox > 3.2 | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | he will not, don't worry | 14:19 |
| jokke | And I think now when the job actually works and not just passes, it's good reality check to keep in master | 14:19 |
| Steap | rosmaita: shouldn't this bug affect every project? | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | Steap: it's not really a bug, it's a mismatch between running tox locally and in the gate | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | jokke, ack, I will submit patches to remove them for all repos | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | based on what's available in the distro | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | so it probably only affects non-ubuntu users | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | brb | 14:20 |
| * abhishekk back | 14:21 | |
| abhishekk | anything else guys? | 14:21 |
| Steap | rosmaita: yeah but is it only an issue in Cinder? | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | no, it's probably an issue for any non-ubuntu users | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | if you're not using pip > 20, you won't get the same dependency resolution | 14:22 |
| jokke | rosmaita: ++ I think that would be good approach for us too. | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i think anything that removes local env dependencies is good | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | also, i think this one probably affects a lot of projects: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/780907 | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | only showed up in our docs job failure | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | well, will have a look after the meeting | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | Steap, if this sounds reasonable you can include it in your patch | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | or a separate patch | 14:27 |
| jokke | I didn't realize that tox used still the virtualenv package in general. Would have expected the py3 using the native, but i this is how we can assure we're consistent, I think it' great thing to do. Specially as it's tox requirement and does not affect actual installs/deployments | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | i just mentioned it since he's working on tox | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | jokke: i believe it uses virtualenv if it's present, but in any case, even if it doesn't, by requiring virtualenv it will seed pip and setuptools and wheel, and will use those versions even if it uses venv | 14:28 |
| jokke | rosmaita: yeah, that's why I think it's good approach. And much much better to get those three in sync from metapackage than keeping track of them manually | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | that's my theory too | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | but also why keep it a separate patch in case i'm wrong and we need a revert :) | 14:30 |
| Steap | +1 | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | sounds good both the way | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | anything else? | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | jokke, rosmaita, Steap, dansmith | 14:32 |
| dansmith | nope. | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | nothing from me, other than thanks for the excellent leadership this cycle abhishekk | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | very nice to hit all the deadlines early! | 14:33 |
| dansmith | ++ | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | thank you, wouldn't possible without everyone's support :D | 14:33 |
| jokke | No, catching up still. Hopefully the nw clitch was just quick one and I can stay online ;) | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | :P | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | cool, wrapping up | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | thank you all | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | Kindly drop me a mail if anything is urgent and requires attention | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | #endmeeting | 14:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:34 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 18 14:34:35 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2021/glance.2021-03-18-14.00.html | 14:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2021/glance.2021-03-18-14.00.txt | 14:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2021/glance.2021-03-18-14.00.log.html | 14:34 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 18 15:00:12 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/security-agenda agenda | 15:00 |
| fungi | ahoy, mateys | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:00 |
| Luzi | o/ | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | getting coffee then we can start | 15:03 |
| fungi | yes, priorities | 15:03 |
| gagehugo | #topic updates | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:05 | |
| gagehugo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1552042 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1552042 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Host data corruption through nova inject_key feature" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | I believe that was closed out yesterday? | 15:05 |
| fungi | yep, merged a few days ago though | 15:06 |
| fungi | looks like the fix for xen is to just disable all unsafe methods in wallaby | 15:06 |
| fungi | not backportable afaik | 15:07 |
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| fungi | there's a release note included in the fix at least | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:07 |
| fungi | if someone feels compelled to write an ossn about it, that might be appropriate, but really the only way it's fixed by default is to upgrade to wallaby | 15:08 |
| gagehugo | maybe? although idk how useful a note saying "upgrade to W" is haha | 15:09 |
| fungi | right, that's why i wasn't pushing for an ossn | 15:10 |
| fungi | other than it could describe how to disable those other types manually | 15:11 |
| fungi | someone better versed in configuring libvirt directly would probably have to write up the recommendations though | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | ah ok | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1919357 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1919357 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ""Secure live migration with QEMU-native TLS in nova"-guide misses essential config option" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Josephine Seifert (josei) | 15:12 |
| fungi | looking at the release note, it might be sufficient to just say you need libguestfs support installed, i dunno | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | that was made public as well | 15:13 |
| fungi | yeah, i'll let Luzi introduce that | 15:13 |
| Luzi | yeah, i found out that a config option which is need to be set to tls was not mentioned in the guide... | 15:14 |
| Luzi | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781030 | 15:14 |
| Luzi | that patch should fix the documentation | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | cool | 15:15 |
| Luzi | the problem here is - we found out the config option which needs to be set was introduced in ocata or so? - and you cannot determine that qemu native tls is not working, unless you listen on the ports with tcpdump | 15:17 |
| fungi | once that merges and i guess gets backported, then we can announce an ossn for it so people are more likely to notice that they may not have correctly configured it if they wanted that | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | yeah, that one is def ossn material | 15:18 |
| Luzi | yes | 15:18 |
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| gagehugo | #topic Discuss meeting time change/frequency | 15:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss meeting time change/frequency (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:20 | |
| gagehugo | So meeting weekly hasn't been quite as productive as it used to have been | 15:21 |
| gagehugo | often there isn't anything to update on | 15:21 |
| gagehugo | Changing the frequency of meeting was an idea brought up, perhaps every other week or even monthly meetings | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | Also this current time seems to get double booked often | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | so maybe changing the meeting time as well? | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | Any thoughts? | 15:22 |
| fungi | i'm open to any of that, though the double-booked situation is probably unavoidable for me regardless given my typical meeting load | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | I'm fine if we want to just reduce the frequency starting off | 15:24 |
| gagehugo | DST makes this time better for me until Nov | 15:24 |
| fungi | sure, what cadence? monthly? every four weeks? every two? | 15:25 |
| fungi | i think these days, irc-meetings/yaml2ical can accommodate things like "third monday of the month" too | 15:26 |
| gagehugo | I was thinking monthly | 15:27 |
| gagehugo | then we can likely use most of the timeslot with updates from the last meeting | 15:27 |
| gagehugo | and if that is too little, we can always change it to be more frequent | 15:28 |
| fungi | sounds fine to me, thanks | 15:28 |
| gagehugo | Luzi: any thoughts? | 15:28 |
| Luzi | no | 15:29 |
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| gagehugo | alright, I'll make an announcement then and we can figure out a specific day/month | 15:30 |
| gagehugo | fungi: What's the repo for modifying the meeting info again?> | 15:31 |
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| fungi | #link https://opendev.org/opendev/irc-meetings/src/branch/master/meetings/openstack-security-sig-meeting.yaml | 15:32 |
| gagehugo | danke | 15:32 |
| fungi | bitte | 15:32 |
| gagehugo | :) | 15:32 |
| gagehugo | #topic PTG Timeslot | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG Timeslot (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:33 | |
| fungi | we're making Luzi cringe | 15:33 |
| gagehugo | LOL | 15:33 |
| gagehugo | I think that is the extent of my german | 15:33 |
| gagehugo | I'll say grazie instead then | 15:34 |
| Luzi | not really - i am just getting ready to go off | 15:34 |
| Luzi | i learn finnish now... kiitos | 15:34 |
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| gagehugo | So the vPTG is coming up, do we want to do similar to previous and have a couple timeslots at different times? Or just a single session on Monday for the SIG portions? | 15:35 |
| gagehugo | Luzi: I'll add that to my list :D | 15:35 |
| Luzi | if its like last year, i will be following several meetings at the same time.. it was possible :D | 15:36 |
| fungi | probably a single session could be sufficient. my main interests would be in trying to better classify the current set of open security bugs, or maybe a working session to divide and conquer on improvements to the security.o.o site content | 15:36 |
| Luzi | kiitos = thank you ;) | 15:37 |
| gagehugo | I can make an agenda etherpad too | 15:37 |
| fungi | thanks! | 15:37 |
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| gagehugo | I think we tried the multiple timeslot approach the last couple times and the 2nd one was basically a wash | 15:37 |
| Luzi | one is good imho | 15:38 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:40 |
| gagehugo | #topic open discussion | 15:40 |
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| gagehugo | Anyone have anything else for this meeting? | 15:40 |
| Luzi | nothing from my side | 15:43 |
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| gagehugo | fungi Luzi: thanks! Have a good rest of the week! | 15:44 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 18 15:44:39 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2021/security.2021-03-18-15.00.html | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2021/security.2021-03-18-15.00.txt | 15:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2021/security.2021-03-18-15.00.log.html | 15:44 |
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| fungi | thanks gagehugo! | 15:45 |
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