Tuesday, 2021-04-27

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yasufumHi tacker team08:01
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yasufumhi08:04
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takahashi-tschi08:04
masaki-uenohello08:05
yasufum#startmeeting tacker08:05
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 27 08:05:52 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:05
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tacker'08:05
yasufum#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting08:06
yasufumThere are no topics on the etherpad.08:06
yasufumAnd vPTG was just finished for Xena release.08:07
yasufumSo, I think this meeting can be skipped if no one has a topic today.08:08
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yasufumExcept to ask for reviewing patches08:09
yasufumWhat do you think?08:09
takahashi-tscNothing from my side, so we can skip.08:10
masaki-uenoI have no topics to discuss today, too.08:10
yasufumOK, thanks08:11
* yasufum I would like also to skip the next meeting because it is a holiday in Japan and most of us may not join.08:12
yasufumI will announce it later on ML later.08:13
yasufumThank you for joining today.08:13
yasufumBye!08:13
takahashi-tscThanks08:13
masaki-uenoBye08:14
yasufum#endmeeting08:14
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ricolinas reminder, Multi-arch SIG will not run meeting today15:05
ricolinwill resume meeting on May, 1115:05
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oneswig#startmeeting scientific-sig21:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 27 21:00:17 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig'21:00
oneswigspelled it right, good start21:00
julianpHeh.21:00
oneswighello...21:00
oneswighi julianp21:00
julianpHi oneswig! How are things?21:01
oneswigNot too bad thanks.  Work is keeping me busy and the garden is growing.21:01
oneswigHow's Arizona - is that where you are?21:01
julianpArizona is surprisingly cold and windy right now.21:03
oneswigIt has been cold a night here, borderline frost, for over a week.  But really good in the day.21:04
oneswigWhat's next for Exosphere?21:04
julianpcmart is working on remote desktop integration.21:05
julianpWe want to improve the UX as well. If you know of anybody who has an eye for UX and knows (or wants to learn Elm) let us know.21:05
oneswigFascinating choice, Elm, I was thinking that in your talk.21:05
julianpVery deliberate choice. It is a bit of a filter.21:06
oneswigIt's a pity that programming languages don't exist in a meritocracy.21:06
oneswigI'm sure it deserves to be much more widely used.  How long did it take to master it?21:07
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julianpMeritocracy: Heh. Well, I think it's like tools. I can't say a wrench is better than pliers, because it depends on what you are trying to do.21:07
julianpElm is easy to get started with, but it took me a few months to get used to 'thinking' in Elm.21:08
oneswigRight, true enough.  But there's definitely good wrenches and bad ones out there.21:08
julianpYup.21:08
oneswigAnd think in Elm, now you do? :-)21:08
julianpWell, at least I think in 'functional programming' terms. It's made me a better Python programmer I think.21:09
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oneswigAny comparisons with Haskell?21:09
b1airomorning (here, not here - on Teams in another window)21:10
julianpYes. It's in the same family of programming languages.21:10
oneswigg'day b1airo21:10
julianpHi b1airo!21:10
oneswig#chair b1airo21:10
openstackCurrent chairs: b1airo oneswig21:10
julianpElm is a much simpler and 'smaller' programming language than Haskell though.21:10
oneswigb1airo: thought you were a Zoom shop?21:10
oneswigPerhaps it will take over.  Python made such a colossal mistake with 2 vs 3, it seems, I hope other languages have taken notice.21:12
oneswigI'll get to reprise your talk julianp as I have been invited to participate in the OpenInfra Live session on Thursday with a PTG wrap-up on the SIG session.21:14
julianpCool. What does 'reprise' mean? Anything I can do to help?21:14
oneswigPerhaps it's the wrong term, er, how about "talk about again"21:15
oneswigNo further help needed, I just need to be articulate for ~5 minutes straight.21:16
julianpRighto.21:16
julianpPlease let people know that we are looking for an Elm developer if anybody is interested in helping out.21:16
oneswigI will try to remember!21:17
julianpThank you!21:17
oneswigI think Elias was also plugging that they were hiring, seems like scientific cloud is a demand area21:18
julianpExcellent.21:18
oneswigjulianp: did you follow other sessions in the PTG?21:20
julianpAny idea when the next OpenStack survey will go out?21:20
julianponeswig: No, unfortunately not. What were the highlights for you?21:20
oneswignot sure on the survey.  It's a good question - now that the summits for this year are replaced with a rolling open infra live, there's no single event to tie it to21:20
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oneswigPTG events, I didn't attend others but I was aware of the Linuxbridge discussion coming up in the Neutron sessions and wanted to make sure the users were aware21:21
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martialhello21:23
oneswigSome of the team shared some interesting pieces from Nova discussions21:23
oneswigHi martial, how did it go :-)21:23
oneswig#chair martial21:23
openstackCurrent chairs: b1airo martial oneswig21:23
martialstill going but magic of the internet I guess :)21:24
oneswigYou're live-streaming from the dentist's chair?  That's commitment!21:24
oneswigJust looking at the link Ümit shared - https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/eessi/21:28
julianpThat looks interesting.21:33
oneswigFosdem is one of those events that just couldn't be socially distanced.  One day I will go and feel triumphant21:35
verdurinI've been semi-participating in EESSI.21:39
oneswigHello verdurin21:40
verdurinNot normally here, and may run off at any moment - hello.21:40
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oneswigWho is behind EESSI?21:40
verdurinVarious European sites - Groningen, SurfSARA, Ghent, Brussels plus plenty of others, now including some Nordics.21:41
oneswigGood to know.21:42
oneswigIs it purely a northern thing?21:43
verdurinHmm, don't remember there being Spanish or Italian involvement. However, I only fitfully follow along.21:44
oneswigIs this an Easybuild connection?21:45
verdurinYes.21:45
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oneswigWhat does EESSI do for a scheduler?21:47
verdurinThink they're focused more on applications.21:48
oneswigAh, right.21:48
oneswigThat's well worth staying up for but I don't think there's anything else to cover.  Any other business?21:51
oneswigOK, let's close there.  Thanks everyone21:54
oneswig#endmeeting21:54
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr 27 21:54:44 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:54
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