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| yasufum | Hi tacker team | 08:00 |
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| manpreet | hi | 08:01 |
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| yasufum | #startmeeting tacker | 08:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 11 08:02:41 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:02 |
| yasufum | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting | 08:03 |
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| yasufum | hi | 08:04 |
| takahashi-tsc | hi | 08:04 |
| yasufum | Do you have any topic although no one on the etherpad? | 08:05 |
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| takahashi-tsc | I don't write it, but I have 1 topic to discuss. | 08:06 |
| yasufum | OK, go ahead please. | 08:07 |
| takahashi-tsc | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/787066 | 08:08 |
| takahashi-tsc | This is just a bugfix, but I'd like to discuss how to fix and how to make UT. | 08:08 |
| takahashi-tsc | This is because of bug of python zipfile module, so change to use subprocess and Linux unzip command. And add UT for the method. | 08:10 |
| takahashi-tsc | As a result, UT execute Linux unzip command but UT env does not include Linux unzip. | 08:10 |
| takahashi-tsc | I don't know how to add new package to UT env... 1 solution is use mock for subprcess. But if we use mock, UT becomes meaningless. | 08:12 |
| yasufum | sure | 08:13 |
| takahashi-tsc | So I'd like to discuss how to proceed... | 08:13 |
| takahashi-tsc | 1. Not make UT / Make UT with mock / (any others?) 2. Is there any other good fix without using subprocess? | 08:14 |
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| ueha | takahasi-tsc: Sorry, could you tell me one thing? | 08:18 |
| ueha | Is there something wrong with tacker when permission is changed to 644? | 08:18 |
| takahashi-tsc | The problem is change permission of package files, which is VNF's files. So in my opinion, Tacker should keep permission. | 08:19 |
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| ueha | Thanks, There is no particular problem. | 08:23 |
| ueha | But it should be same permission download by `openstack vnf package download` command. right? | 08:24 |
| takahashi-tsc | For example, mgmt driver use some shell script and VNF assume such file's permission is 755. Anyway, Tacker cannot/should not know such VNF's assumption. | 08:24 |
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| ueha | I see. thank you. | 08:26 |
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| takahashi-tsc | I think checking premission of unzipped file is not UT... so I think using mock is OK. But I'm not sure such UT is necessary. | 08:34 |
| yasufum | I’m not sure what should be done in your patch. You try to install unzip because it’s not included, right? | 08:36 |
| takahashi-tsc | You mean editting devstack setting? Yes but this is for only FT env. I cannot find the way to install unzip into UT env. | 08:37 |
| yasufum | I am also not sure why devstack/settings is removed in the latest patch set. | 08:37 |
| takahashi-tsc | Sorry ,it is just a mistake... he want to rollback setting change, so please ignore the change. | 08:38 |
| takahashi-tsc | The problem is failing UT such as openstack-tox-py36, py38. | 08:39 |
| yasufum | umm | 08:43 |
| yasufum | Did you try to use zlib instead? | 08:43 |
| yasufum | Although I’m not sure it support such a permission support... | 08:44 |
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| takahashi-tsc | He may not try zlib, we'll try it. | 08:47 |
| takahashi-tsc | But same problem might occur... | 08:47 |
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| yasufum | Anyway, we might have several possible options for the problem. | 08:49 |
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| takahashi-tsc | OK, first try to use zlib. And is it OK to upload UT using mock? | 08:50 |
| yasufum | I am not so well understanding about zip related libs, but would like to consider | 08:50 |
| yasufum | I don’t agree to make it a mock currently. | 08:50 |
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| takahashi-tsc | OK... I try to check zip related solutions. | 08:52 |
| yasufum | thnaks | 08:52 |
| yasufum | please continue the discussion on gerrit. | 08:53 |
| yasufum | Is there any topic? | 08:54 |
| takahashi-tsc | not from myside. | 08:54 |
| yasufum | or close this meeting because it almost the end of the time. | 08:54 |
| ueha | I have no topic today. | 08:55 |
| yasufum | OK | 08:55 |
| yasufum | wrap up the meeting | 08:56 |
| yasufum | Thank you for joining. Bye! | 08:56 |
| masazumi-ota | Bye | 08:56 |
| ueha | thanks, bye | 08:56 |
| takahashi-tsc | bye | 08:56 |
| yasufum | #endmeeting | 08:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 11 08:57:05 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2021/tacker.2021-05-11-08.02.html | 08:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2021/tacker.2021-05-11-08.02.txt | 08:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2021/tacker.2021-05-11-08.02.log.html | 08:57 |
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| ricolin | #startmeeting multi_arch | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 11 15:00:15 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: multi_arch)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'multi_arch' | 15:00 |
| ricolin | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: multi_arch)" | 15:00 | |
| ricolin | o/ | 15:00 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | o/ | 15:03 |
| ricolin | hey jeremyfreudberg :) | 15:03 |
| jeremyfreudberg | hey! | 15:04 |
| hrw | [o] | 15:04 |
| ricolin | Hi hrw :) | 15:06 |
| ricolin | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Multi-Arch-agenda | 15:06 |
| ricolin | #topic Arm64 job performance tunning | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Arm64 job performance tunning (Meeting topic: multi_arch)" | 15:08 | |
| ricolin | So for Arm64 job | 15:08 |
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| ricolin | I have run tests on my local environment, and I can't really reproduce the volume backup/restore issue(long running time) | 15:09 |
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| ricolin | But my set up is different from what's in CI(but still Devstack) | 15:10 |
| ricolin | On the other hand, current CI environment seems to reach better performance now from around 3hrs to 2hrs | 15:11 |
| hrw | did you checked where it was run? | 15:12 |
| hrw | maybe it is difference between linaro and osuosl nodes | 15:12 |
| ricolin | on linaro-us | 15:12 |
| ricolin | didn't check all recent runs, but I'm sure two of them from linaro-us | 15:12 |
| hrw | ok | 15:12 |
| jeremyfreudberg | interesting | 15:12 |
| ricolin | and it runs 2 hrs this time | 15:13 |
| ricolin | I mean the running time is around 2 hrs | 15:13 |
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| rh-jelabarre | 2 hours deploy time, or 2 hours for a test/validation run? | 15:14 |
| ricolin | rh-jelabarre, 2 hours totally | 15:15 |
| ricolin | 1200+ secs to run all tests | 15:16 |
| ricolin | and 1656 secs for set up devstack | 15:16 |
| ricolin | Also, besides performance tunning, we probably need to decide which services/tests we can drop from tempest arm64 job | 15:17 |
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| hrw | do we fit in 3h time? | 15:17 |
| hrw | and how often is this job run? | 15:18 |
| ricolin | hrw, everything is still in review patch | 15:19 |
| hrw | url? | 15:19 |
| ricolin | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/708317/100/.zuul.yaml | 15:19 |
| ricolin | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/708317 | 15:19 |
| hrw | o, num_pcie_ports ;d | 15:19 |
| ricolin | I think now is also a good time to discuss what can we moving forward from for job | 15:20 |
| ricolin | #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=devstack-platform-arm64+ | 15:20 |
| ricolin | this is job status | 15:20 |
| ricolin | for running time less than 1 hrs, that's me try and error runs:( | 15:21 |
| hrw | looks like fit in 3h without problem (at least recently) | 15:21 |
| ricolin | hrw, yeah, I will keep put in few more recheck to see how stable is that result | 15:21 |
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| ricolin | Few follow up ideas for this job, like we can try to use Ceph as backend | 15:23 |
| ricolin | Or ideas like we should try to get rid of non-arch related part of tests | 15:24 |
| hrw | also rename job to tempest-platform-NAMEOFDISTRO-arm64 (or -aarch64 even) | 15:24 |
| ricolin | hrw, that's good idea | 15:24 |
| ricolin | One question I have now is which services can be consider non-arch related | 15:26 |
| ricolin | Keystone is one | 15:26 |
| ricolin | but Neutron sounds arch related to me | 15:27 |
| ricolin | I feels like Nova, Neuton, Cinder, are three services which we should keep tempest tests on | 15:28 |
| hrw | nova is the most arch related. and it needs cinder and neutron to run. and keystone to auth | 15:29 |
| hrw | you may skip horizon for example | 15:29 |
| ricolin | hrw yes, but do we need to run tempest tests which design to test Neuton or Cinder specifically | 15:30 |
| hrw | how often do those tests run? every change? daily? weekly? | 15:31 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i would recommend to run neutron and cinder tests unless there are resource or time constraints | 15:31 |
| jeremyfreudberg | it's good to have parity | 15:31 |
| hrw | +1 | 15:31 |
| ricolin | hrw, I plan to propose this job at least as daily/weekly periodic job | 15:32 |
| hrw | if daily/weekly then as much as possible | 15:33 |
| ricolin | also Think it make sense to run as gate(if possible) or post merge job for Nova | 15:33 |
| hrw | as long as it fit in 3h | 15:33 |
| hrw | if project accepts then it can be non-voting run-on-change one | 15:34 |
| hrw | does not block anything and allows to see when change breaks | 15:34 |
| ricolin | I can propose to Nova I think | 15:34 |
| ricolin | hrw, do you think the current CI can take on such load? | 15:35 |
| hrw | probably | 15:36 |
| ricolin | or we can push what kevinz currently proposed in Nova (devstack+nova-tempest) | 15:36 |
| ricolin | Let's find out!:) | 15:37 |
| hrw | There are several nodes on CI. In worst case you will get queued | 15:37 |
| hrw | now we have 82 jobs in check and just 4 in check-arm64 | 15:37 |
| hrw | and 24 in gate | 15:37 |
| hrw | so 106 against 4 ;D | 15:38 |
| hrw | https://grafana.opendev.org/d/S1zTp6EGz/nodepool-linaro?orgId=1 shows small use | 15:39 |
| ricolin | sounds like good to go! | 15:39 |
| ricolin | Okay, guess we can move on:) | 15:40 |
| ricolin | #topic arm64 UT | 15:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "arm64 UT (Meeting topic: multi_arch)" | 15:40 | |
| ricolin | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22story%252F2007938%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged) | 15:41 |
| hrw | UT? | 15:41 |
| hrw | ah. unit tests | 15:41 |
| ricolin | sorry, I mean Unit test | 15:41 |
| ricolin | I didn't yet propose on for Swift, which I should | 15:42 |
| ricolin | so will do one today | 15:42 |
| hrw | will fix https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/777062 (kolla) one | 15:42 |
| ricolin | hrw, thanks | 15:43 |
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| ricolin | we might need to change the name in patch to openstack-python3-xena-jobs-arm64 | 15:43 |
| hrw | ok | 15:44 |
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| ricolin | That's all I have for Unit test | 15:44 |
| ricolin | Kolla and Swift | 15:44 |
| ricolin | Let's move on:) | 15:45 |
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| ricolin | #topic SIG report | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SIG report (Meeting topic: multi_arch)" | 15:45 | |
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| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, I get the data for how many page vew for our report | 15:46 |
| ricolin | the data is for the first 6 days | 15:46 |
| jeremyfreudberg | cool | 15:46 |
| ricolin | so now should be way more | 15:46 |
| ricolin | I think we definitely will have report at least 1 per year | 15:49 |
| ricolin | we can also consider doing that as a cycle work, but only if we have enough information to share | 15:49 |
| jeremyfreudberg | thanks for getting the data | 15:50 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i think additional reports is a good idea | 15:50 |
| ricolin | NP | 15:50 |
| hrw | ricolin: can it be xena-jobs-aarch64? | 15:50 |
| hrw | instead of -arm64 | 15:51 |
| ricolin | I actually prefer to use aarch64 indeed | 15:51 |
| ricolin | forgot why I use arm64 at first place | 15:52 |
| hrw | ;D | 15:52 |
| ricolin | #topic Libvirt 7 chances for Multi-arch | 15:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Libvirt 7 chances for Multi-arch (Meeting topic: multi_arch)" | 15:52 | |
| hrw | cgroups... | 15:53 |
| hrw | 17:53 < openstackgerrit> Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: add openstack-python3-xena-jobs-aarch64 job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/777062 | 15:53 |
| ricolin | I didn't put much time on this yet | 15:54 |
| ricolin | will spend more time in following weeks | 15:56 |
| ricolin | hrw, I guess cgroups is where I should starts on?:D | 15:56 |
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| hrw | yeah | 15:58 |
| ricolin | We're 2 mins left | 15:58 |
| hrw | we can postpone that part to next week | 15:59 |
| ricolin | okay | 15:59 |
| hrw | and start from it ;D | 16:00 |
| ricolin | hrw, BTW, I like to mention that jinyuanliu reach out to me today and appears he is plan to introduce multi-arch support for openstack helm images | 16:00 |
| jeremyfreudberg | nice | 16:01 |
| hrw | good to know that someone still uses helm | 16:01 |
| ricolin | nothing in progress yet | 16:01 |
| ricolin | haha | 16:01 |
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| ricolin | will see if we can have something in progress from there:) | 16:02 |
| ricolin | Okay, I think we can call this meeting off | 16:03 |
| ricolin | Thanks all for join:) | 16:03 |
| ricolin | #endmeeting | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:03 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 11 16:03:34 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/multi_arch/2021/multi_arch.2021-05-11-15.00.html | 16:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/multi_arch/2021/multi_arch.2021-05-11-15.00.txt | 16:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/multi_arch/2021/multi_arch.2021-05-11-15.00.log.html | 16:03 |
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| martial | About that time :) | 21:00 |
| martial | #start-meeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| oneswig | Take it away martial :-) | 21:00 |
| martial | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| oneswig | ah - no '-' | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 11 21:00:30 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is martial. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | oof1 | 21:00 |
| martial | #chair oneswig | 21:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial oneswig | 21:01 |
| martial | Welcome friends to yet another instance of the Scienfitic SIG meeting :) | 21:01 |
| oneswig | Hey | 21:01 |
| trandles | hi oneswig martial | 21:01 |
| martial | hello Tim | 21:01 |
| oneswig | Hi trandles | 21:01 |
| oneswig | I've had a couple of quality hours trying to comprehend a legal agreement... | 21:02 |
| martial | ah? | 21:02 |
| trandles | that doesn't sound like fun oneswig | 21:03 |
| oneswig | One of the fun aspects of working in a small firm is not having a dedicated legal department. Living the dream :-) | 21:03 |
| oneswig | It's actually not too bad - which is worrying me. | 21:04 |
| martial | was looking for our agenda for today and I guess freeform meeting it is :) | 21:04 |
| b1airo | morning | 21:04 |
| oneswig | Hi b1airo, morning | 21:05 |
| b1airo | how goes it? (legal reviews aside) | 21:05 |
| martial | welcome Blair | 21:05 |
| martial | #chair b1airo | 21:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:05 |
| oneswig | Anyone come across this in the line of work? https://ronin.cloud | 21:07 |
| b1airo | what was the wash up from the PTG? anything I should be staying on top of from a system architect perspective? | 21:08 |
| oneswig | Asking for a friend... | 21:08 |
| oneswig | From the Nova perspective I think it was good to see continued work on mixing "hpc" and "general purpose" workloads | 21:09 |
| oneswig | mostly better ways to share pinned and non-pinned workloads | 21:09 |
| oneswig | This work in Wallaby will come in handy for smaller deploys and combining GPU and non-GPU workloads in a way that doesn't bisect the cloud: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/wallaby/admin/managing-resource-providers.html | 21:12 |
| b1airo | i think i have seen Ronin before, but it wasn't as polished IIRC | 21:13 |
| b1airo | anyone other than Mike integrated vGPU yet, assuming oneswig and martial ? | 21:16 |
| martial | no vGPU for me yet | 21:17 |
| oneswig | b1airo: when given the option, clients tend to stop short of the effort (and cost). We have a couple of new deploys with GPUs that may evaluate it but no concrete timing on either. | 21:18 |
| oneswig | One is V100 and the other is A100, which may make it interesting when comparing overhead. | 21:18 |
| trandles | I'm in the middle of doing an RHOSP deploy to support an OpenShift project, including bare metal nodes to support containerized windows applications. | 21:19 |
| trandles | ^ this is another way of saying "I've been drinking heavily" | 21:19 |
| oneswig | The A100 is more likely to go MIG I think | 21:19 |
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| oneswig | trandles: containerized windows applications on OpenShift? Sheesh! | 21:19 |
| oneswig | I think it's time we saw Charliecloud on OpenShift. | 21:20 |
| trandles | It's challenging enough that we have daily 4.5 hour work sessions with RHAT engineers for the next 8 weeks. | 21:20 |
| oneswig | Daily! What about all the other stuff you were doing in your day? :-) | 21:21 |
| oneswig | Although I'm actually quite envious at the idea of having 4.5 hours to focus on one thing every day | 21:22 |
| trandles | Luckily I'm just supporting someone else in the daily sessions. It's not my 4.5 hours. | 21:23 |
| b1airo | trandles: :-D | 21:23 |
| oneswig | How did you arrive at 4.5 hours? Just curious | 21:24 |
| trandles | probably the amount of money...?? Not sure. I'm trying to stay as disengaged as possible while still being a meaningful participant :P | 21:25 |
| martial | what's the expected outcome? | 21:25 |
| trandles | martial: the driver of the project is way above me. By the time it got on my radar it was a task list. | 21:26 |
| trandles | 1. get RHOSP install | 21:26 |
| trandles | 2. get OpenShift working | 21:26 |
| trandles | here's a bunch of people to work with, you've probably never met them | 21:27 |
| oneswig | A familiar tale. | 21:28 |
| oneswig | It goes comprehensively off piste when you bring in the windows containers. | 21:29 |
| martial | wait why windows? | 21:30 |
| b1airo | yeah, i foresee a great "Curious tale of ..." story coming out of this | 21:30 |
| trandles | The project needs to support a whole boatload of applications. Whoever made the decision didn't bother to survey the applications they said _must_ be moved to containers. | 21:31 |
| b1airo | re. vGPU oneswig - you mentioned cost, are you talking about the NVIDIA licensing aspect? it's basically free for academic usage iiuc | 21:32 |
| martial | ouch ... another "digital modernization" project | 21:32 |
| b1airo | and re MIG, well yes but that's kind of orthogonal - if you fundamentally want (v)machine level isolation with GPU sharing, vGPU is the only option | 21:33 |
| b1airo | though admittedly some of the killer use-cases could be implemented with MIG + K8s | 21:34 |
| oneswig | b1airo: yeah the VCS license. | 21:34 |
| b1airo | i'm trying to piece together whether it's going to work on a CentOS/Stream based platform... | 21:35 |
| martial | anybody tested RockyOS btw? | 21:35 |
| oneswig | Sounds like you've had better luck getting good answers from Nvidia on the implementation details. VGPU has been described to me as including time-sliced sharing which sounded concerning. | 21:36 |
| b1airo | seems like probably, but would be nice to hear from someone who has done it. i'm assuming JetStream is CentOS based - I'll followup with Mike in Slack... | 21:36 |
| oneswig | martial: not looked at it. We've been testing stream out. | 21:36 |
| b1airo | is there actually a Rocky release now? what about Alma...? | 21:37 |
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| b1airo | yeah but the nice thing about vGPU compared to MIG (if I'm remembering this correctly) is that any one individual VM can get all the compute power of the GPU if you want to allow them to burst (while other VMs are not using much/any GPU) | 21:38 |
| martial | b1airo: RC1 | 21:39 |
| b1airo | any inside gossip on the Singularity fork... trandles ? | 21:39 |
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| b1airo | ok, maybe not "inside gossip", more insight I guess | 21:40 |
| oneswig | b1airo: what have I missed - fork? | 21:40 |
| b1airo | https://sylabs.io/2021/05/singularity-community-edition | 21:41 |
| oneswig | "When two entities are equally as passionate about something but see things differently, it has the potential to cause unnecessary tension, toxicity or collateral damage" - I don't think the project would have forked simply at the potential for that, is my guess. | 21:44 |
| b1airo | yeah, much as i cringe at the earnest language in the rest of the article i feel like that was probably a generous take | 21:50 |
| trandles | b1airo: I have no inside info on Singularity | 21:52 |
| oneswig | trandles: what's the latest on CharliecloudCE? :-) | 21:52 |
| trandles | although the letter from Kurtzer to Sylabs saying "you forked Singularity, rename it please" made me chuckle | 21:54 |
| oneswig | Is Duality taken I wonder? | 21:54 |
| trandles | He started Singularity, he started Sylabs, he sold Sylabs, he started HPCng, HPCng pissed off Sylabs enough that Sylabs forked it, Kurtzer asked Sylabs to rename their fork, he regains control of "Singularity?" | 21:55 |
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| oneswig | Time's nearly up! | 21:59 |
| martial | reaching the top of the hour | 21:59 |
| martial | thanks everybody for joining | 22:00 |
| martial | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 11 22:00:07 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2021/scientific_sig.2021-05-11-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2021/scientific_sig.2021-05-11-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2021/scientific_sig.2021-05-11-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
| oneswig | Thanks all | 22:00 |
| oneswig | Good luck with the windows apps trandles | 22:00 |
| b1airo | yeah, definitely a "watch this space" re. Singularity/CE | 22:00 |
| trandles | thx | 22:00 |
| b1airo | hope I don't need 3+ HPC container runtimes now... | 22:00 |
| trandles | just use Charliecloud | 22:01 |
| trandles | ;) | 22:01 |
| oneswig | ok then | 22:01 |
| trandles | it's totally unprivileged | 22:01 |
| oneswig | When it works with OpenShift :-) | 22:01 |
| trandles | I've been using it to build containers on Summit | 22:01 |
| trandles | and then run containers on Summit | 22:01 |
| trandles | When I get to sites that "only support Singularity" I use Charliecloud. It works and I don't have to learn a new toolset. | 22:02 |
| trandles | (and I use podman for everything that's not an HPC user job) | 22:03 |
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| martial | really need to get started with podman | 22:04 |
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