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| pdeore | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Jun 30 14:00:07 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pdeore. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| pdeore | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| pdeore | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| pdeore | o/ | 14:00 |
| mrjoshi | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| pdeore | abhishekk, how are feeling now? I thought you will not around today | 14:01 |
| * abhishekk down with fever so probably will leave after the meeting | 14:01 | |
| abhishekk | not much well | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | will signoff after the meeting | 14:02 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:02 |
| pdeore | ack | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | I think rosmaita is not around | 14:02 |
| pdeore | yeah he is on PTO | 14:02 |
| pdeore | lets wait few minutes for everyone to join | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:04 |
| pdeore | I think jokke_ and Cyril are not around, | 14:05 |
| pdeore | shall we start or wait for few more mints ? | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | we should start | 14:06 |
| pdeore | ok | 14:06 |
| pdeore | #topic release/periodic jobs | 14:06 |
| pdeore | Milestone 2 is 2 weeks away from now | 14:06 |
| pdeore | JFYI, I have updated the release schedule doc as well with the glance spec freeze date for Zed schedule | 14:06 |
| pdeore | #link https://releases.openstack.org/zed/schedule.html | 14:06 |
| pdeore | So next week would be review party week, as we have decided during PTG to have this 10 days before milestone release | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | ack, thank you for updating the schedule | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | ok | 14:07 |
| pdeore | we will discuss about finalizing the date in the dedicated topic today | 14:07 |
| croelandt | so we'd need 3,4 cores :) | 14:07 |
| dansmith | I'll be out all next week except for tuesday, FYI :) | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | I will be around | 14:07 |
| pdeore | I will also be around | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | we can make an exception and have this review party one week later after the release or during release week | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | 11th or 12th July | 14:08 |
| pdeore | +1 | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | we can spend one hour and go through some important patches | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | or on scheduled time we may have jokke_ brian me and cyril as core and pdeore as well | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | Brian isback next week, right? | 14:10 |
| croelandt | 5th I believe | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | yes, he will be there on 5th | 14:11 |
| croelandt | so mayeb the 7th would be alright after all | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | sounds good | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | 7th same as meeting time | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | sounds like a plan | 14:12 |
| pdeore | cool, | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | unless dansmith has objection us doing it without him | 14:12 |
| dansmith | lol | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | cool, pdeore make a note of it | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | we will miss you dansmith | 14:13 |
| dansmith | heh | 14:13 |
| pdeore | abhishekk, ack | 14:13 |
| pdeore | moving ahead :) | 14:13 |
| pdeore | we have released glance-store stable/wallaby with some important bug fixes | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | dansmith: maybe we call ya an hour before, just to make sure you don't want to join us? :P | 14:13 |
| pdeore | Periodic Jobs are all green except fips jobs failing with RETRY_LIMIT | 14:14 |
| dansmith | you go right ahead.. I'll be far from cell range (and even pavement) | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | wow | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | dansmith: sounds gr8, enjoy | 14:14 |
| dansmith | :) | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | pdeore: any idea what it's retrying? | 14:15 |
| pdeore | seems 'nslookup_target' is undefined | 14:17 |
| dansmith | that's supposed to be resolved | 14:17 |
| dansmith | we should poke ade_lee | 14:17 |
| pdeore | ok | 14:17 |
| pdeore | ok, moving to next topic | 14:19 |
| pdeore | #topic Spec for review | 14:19 |
| pdeore | [APIImpact] Add DELETE api for metadef resource types #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance-specs/+/818192 | 14:19 |
| pdeore | This is the only spec remaining from our review list, which is a low priority but good to have I think. | 14:19 |
| pdeore | I assume that everyone is agreed on having the separate Delete api for resource type rather than auto-deleting with some periodic operation. | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | I will have a look at it, I am pro for having API for it | 14:20 |
| dansmith | tbh, | 14:21 |
| dansmith | I haven't really gotten a clear understanding of why we can't delete when the last use is deleted | 14:21 |
| dansmith | I think both rosmaita and I preferred that approach, but I'm not sure I ever got clarity on why it wasn't okay | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | i didn't aware about that approach, will think on it | 14:22 |
| pdeore | Bcz I think it can be used later by someone if available.. | 14:22 |
| dansmith | but what does that matter? | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | not much | 14:23 |
| dansmith | they're auto-created in the first place, why not auto-delete them when they're no longer used? | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | if they are auto-created then I guess we can delete it if it is not used on last delete | 14:24 |
| dansmith | that's what we were thinking | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | I tend ot agree with Brian and Dan here. I think the fact that there is no create api at all for the resource type is good indication that we likely don't need user action to delete them either | 14:25 |
| pdeore | yeah right, that's why we had a discussion during PTG to have create & delete both similar to other metadef apis | 14:25 |
| dansmith | right, it's just an extra step for the user (or client or whatever) to have to delete them to clean up | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | crazy question. Does the resource type contain any valuable information for it to exists as it's own resource in the db in first place? | 14:27 |
| pdeore | yeah so if we are not having create then let's not have delete as well | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | pdeore, I guess this approach will reduce your work as well | 14:28 |
| pdeore | not really I think | 14:28 |
| pdeore | yeah :) | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | Like is there a reason why it wouldn't be extra field on the namespace entry rather than being it's own thing in general | 14:28 |
| dansmith | it's used by multiple things when it's used, | 14:29 |
| dansmith | so I think that's why it is its own entity, for the relation | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | ok, so makes sense to keep it as it's own entity | 14:29 |
| dansmith | but it's auto-created when you create a namespace that uses it | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | yeah | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | Next crazy question I have then is, if we decide to take the route of auto-delete instead of new API call, do we even need full spec for this? | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | Or can that be converted to -lite and done as best effort refactoring as convenient? | 14:32 |
| abhishekk | sounds good to me | 14:33 |
| dansmith | not sure we even need a lite spec | 14:33 |
| dansmith | could be a bug | 14:33 |
| dansmith | but sure :) | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | if we convert it to bug then we don't need to worry about spec freeze :D | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | but I think lite spec will be good | 14:33 |
| dansmith | \o/ | 14:33 |
| dansmith | /o\ | 14:34 |
| pdeore | cool :) | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | I will discuss this offline with pdeore later | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | lets move ahead | 14:35 |
| pdeore | yeah, sure | 14:35 |
| pdeore | #topic Columbus PTG Team signup | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | this is me | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | I need to fill a survey for Infra about head counts for October PTG | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | who is planning to attend this time? | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | I am thinking to give approx 7/8 head count | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | I have no idea as I haven't heard anything about our travel planning for it yet | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | we will soon | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | ok, I will give tentative count for this and we can modify it later | 14:38 |
| croelandt | Reminded that air travel is not compatible with our CO2 emissions goals for the end of the century | 14:38 |
| croelandt | Reminder* | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | ++ | 14:39 |
| croelandt | and we should probably start by stopping intercontinental travel | 14:39 |
| croelandt | and therefore downsizing meetings :/ | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | croelandt: fortunately I'm on the coast line, so they can hire a yacht to take me over the pond :P | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:39 |
| * croelandt checks whether yachts are worse than planes | 14:39 | |
| dansmith | depends on the yacht | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, if you get one then take a small detour and pick me up as well | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: then we can meet at Dan's house and take road trip from there | 14:41 |
| dansmith | it's a long road trip from here :) | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | cause that's so carbon neutral plan as any | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | I am in :D | 14:41 |
| dansmith | and especially not carbon-neutral in any of my cars :) | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | dansmith: other option is that you hop on, it's longer but nicr trip if we get around via Panama | 14:42 |
| croelandt | nothing is truly carbon-neutral | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | lets move to open discussion, we can discuss the possible road trip a week after once dansmith is back | 14:43 |
| dansmith | heh | 14:43 |
| pdeore | moving to open discussions :D | 14:44 |
| pdeore | #topic Open Discussions | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | there are few glance patches open,please have a look at those | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | important is glance-download and immediate caching | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | oh speaking of which | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | the fips job fix is submitted by Ada, just not reviewed | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | 847089 | 14:46 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:46 |
| dansmith | if you're looking at the glance patch, | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | yup | 14:46 |
| dansmith | he decided to fix it globally, so I thought that glance patch was not required anymore | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | specially mentioning the nslookup_target | 14:47 |
| dansmith | right, | 14:47 |
| dansmith | although I see he depends on the base patch, so maybe both are required, | 14:47 |
| dansmith | but from the discussion I thought not | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | well it's depending on the zuul job patch | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | so I'd expect it being still needed | 14:48 |
| dansmith | yeah, okay maybe so | 14:48 |
| abhishekk | if get time I will have a look at that patch | 14:49 |
| dansmith | it's just zuul config, so if he says it's required we might as well just slam it in | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:50 |
| dansmith | I just rechecked the experimental job so we'll see | 14:51 |
| abhishekk | cool | 14:51 |
| abhishekk | I think we are good for today, nothing else from me other than some review requests | 14:51 |
| pdeore | ack | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | nothing from me | 14:51 |
| pdeore | let's wrap up then .. | 14:51 |
| abhishekk | thank you all o/ | 14:52 |
| pdeore | Thanks everyone for joining !! | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | have a nice weekend | 14:52 |
| pdeore | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Jun 30 14:52:27 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/glance/2022/glance.2022-06-30-14.00.html | 14:52 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/glance/2022/glance.2022-06-30-14.00.txt | 14:52 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/glance/2022/glance.2022-06-30-14.00.log.html | 14:52 |
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