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| fungi | just a heads up, it's been suggested by lsell (who was handling the moderation queue) that we should shut down the openstack-mentoring@lists.openstack.org mailing list | 17:08 |
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| fungi | it's seen one post in the past year (not counting the post asking how to unsubscribe) | 17:09 |
| fungi | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mentoring has a reference to it as a potential contact address, which i can clean up to no longer mention the ml | 17:09 |
| fungi | is there anywhere else you're aware of i might need to make similar adjustments? | 17:10 |
| fungi | looks like https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/contributor-guide/tree/doc/source/common/mentoring.rst#n60 also needs to be adjusted | 17:12 |
| fungi | we can recommend that they post to the new openstack-discuss ml instead (at least in 13 days when it will start to allow posting) | 17:14 |
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| efried | fungi: ++, sadly. | 18:54 |
| fungi | i didn't want to go retiring the openstack-mentoring ml without at least some discussion. figured i'd get some opinions in here before i go raising a thread on an otherwise defunct ml | 18:57 |
| fungi | efried: are you aware of any reason this channel isn't listed on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC ? | 19:01 |
| fungi | i didn't know it existed until i saw it mentioned on the mentoring wiki article | 19:02 |
| efried | fungi: Probably just a miss. New channel, old wiki page. | 19:02 |
| efried | fungi: openstack-placement isn't there either. | 19:02 |
| efried | so I'm guessing it's because "people" don't know about that wiki page. | 19:03 |
| * fungi isn't sure whether to be insulted | 19:03 | |
| * fungi chooses to take it as a compliment | 19:03 | |
| efried | fungi: I wouldn't take it personally. There's so much stuff out there, it's hard to know what's important and what's obsolete. There's no one index that has everything listed in one place. And if there was, it would be huuuuge. | 19:07 |
| fungi | oh, i was referring to the implication that i'm not people ;) | 19:08 |
| efried | fungi: I seem to recall we're pushing to get off of wikis and into docs repos. So if I had known about that page (I didn't) I would have assumed it was obsolete and not worth worrying about. | 19:08 |
| efried | Yeah, quotes deliberate, I was referring to "people" who aren't the maintainers of such information :P | 19:09 |
| fungi | makes sense. i'd be entirely in favor of some mechanism to just publish an index like that to our irc logs site | 19:09 |
| fungi | one less wiki article to feed | 19:09 |
| efried | fungi: There's some yaml file in some governance repo or something that lists IRC channels, isn't there? One could imagine a bot to process that to produce this list, so it would be up to date any time a change to that yaml file merged. | 19:10 |
| fungi | we have a file in openstack-infra/system-config which configures the bot that logs channels for us, so could probably just add some adjacent metadata with descriptions of each channel, yes | 19:11 |
| fungi | that's basically what i was thinking when i said it, at any rate | 19:11 |
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| efried | ++ | 19:14 |
| fungi | oh, you know what? i meant the openstack-internships ml | 19:47 |
| fungi | the openstack-mentoring ml is relatively active | 19:47 |
| efried | is it? | 19:47 |
| fungi | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-mentoring/ | 19:48 |
| fungi | compared to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-internships/ it's active anyway | 19:48 |
| efried | fungi: I think the vast majority of that is echo chamber. I think we had one legit post from an actual mentee | 19:49 |
| efried | fungi: Not sure how much value there is in keeping a whole list around just for "Hey, should we meet up at the PTG" stuff. | 19:49 |
| fungi | oh, well regardless the owners of the openstack-mentors ml haven't asked me to shut it down (yet), the owners of the openstack-internships ml have | 19:49 |
| efried | dig | 19:49 |
| fungi | i got the two mixed up, sorry! | 19:50 |
| fungi | https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?search=openstack-internships turns up a few wiki pages, all of which are basically historical | 19:50 |
| fungi | and codesearch.openstack.org/?q=openstack-internships only mentions the configuration we used to create the list | 19:51 |
| fungi | er, http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=openstack-internships | 19:51 |
| fungi | so anyway, i'm going to send a final post to openstack-internships before i turn it off. should i mention there to contact the openstack-mentoring ml, or was the internships effort distinct from the mentoring effort? | 19:52 |
| efried | fungi: No clue, sorry. | 19:56 |
| fungi | list description is: OpenStack participates in Outreachy and Google Summer of Code and potentially other internship programs. This list is a place for mentors and interns to coordinate. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Category:Internship | 19:58 |
| * diablo_rojo is super slow to the conversation | 22:36 | |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, yeah that would be fine | 22:36 |
| fungi | no worries, most of it was being being completely off the rails because i confused the two mailing lists | 22:39 |
| fungi | er, me being | 22:39 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, yeah I can understand that. Sorry for the confusion! | 22:41 |
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