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phyrox | anyone willing to teach me the ropes of deploying with tripleo? I think I'm losing my mind here | 19:36 |
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diablo_rojo | phyrox, I think asking in the tripleo channel might get you better response? Did you try there? | 19:38 |
phyrox | is mostly developers ignoring my questions :/ | 19:39 |
phyrox | (and I've read the docs, I swear!) | 19:39 |
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diablo_rojo | phyrox, well thats unfortunate | 19:40 |
diablo_rojo | ummm I can try to ping someone to introduce you | 19:40 |
diablo_rojo | I'm useless when it comes to tripleO unfortunately | 19:40 |
phyrox | are other methods of deployment that are easier? | 19:41 |
phyrox | are there* | 19:41 |
diablo_rojo | phyrox, there's openstack Ansible | 19:41 |
diablo_rojo | Are you just trying to test changes or you are looking to like..play around with an openstack cloud? | 19:42 |
phyrox | I already have a little happy cloud that is somewhat working, but it was deployed who knows how, and most of the stuff isn't working | 19:43 |
phyrox | i mean, the cloud is functional...kinda | 19:43 |
phyrox | since we need to expand, the powers that be decided to buy more stuff and create a new one. Then, we will migrate the vms, and add the old cloud nodes to the new one | 19:44 |
diablo_rojo | Okay got it. | 19:44 |
diablo_rojo | I think OpenStack Ansible might be simpler.. | 19:45 |
phyrox | my problem is... I had no idea of openstack 2 month ago | 19:45 |
diablo_rojo | And they are generally more chatty in their channel ;) | 19:45 |
diablo_rojo | phyrox, pretty steep learning curve | 19:45 |
diablo_rojo | and waded right into the deep end with tripleO | 19:45 |
phyrox | haha, yes, but very interesting | 19:45 |
phyrox | i have the deployment almost, almost ready | 19:45 |
phyrox | (or at least, that what I think) | 19:45 |
diablo_rojo | phyrox, well if you can wait a few hours I know of someone in Australia that can probably help, but he wont be up for at least two to three more hours. | 19:46 |
diablo_rojo | I can try to ping someone in the tripleO channel for you right now but idk if he's around either atm | 19:46 |
phyrox | meh, no worries | 19:47 |
diablo_rojo | Oh, he just pushed a patch so he should be. | 19:47 |
phyrox | :D | 19:47 |
diablo_rojo | EmilienM is the one I would ping now. | 19:47 |
diablo_rojo | or tonyb later | 19:47 |
diablo_rojo | Want me to make the introduction? :) | 19:47 |
phyrox | please | 19:47 |
diablo_rojo | phyrox, type fast ;) You've got ten minutes. If it doesnt pan out I can introduce you to tonyb later. | 19:50 |
phyrox | thanks man | 19:54 |
diablo_rojo | phyrox, no problemo | 19:54 |
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efried | phyrox: Did you get sorted out? | 20:04 |
donnyd | Hi | 20:04 |
efried | I know diddly about tripleo or osa, but I know a guy... | 20:05 |
donnyd | I know a few things about tripleo, what can I help with | 20:05 |
diablo_rojo | efried, yeah I connected him with EmilienM | 20:05 |
phyrox | efried yes, diablo_rojo introduced me to some people | 20:06 |
diablo_rojo | efried, lol yeah I know people that know things but I definitely dont know tripleO or OSA myself | 20:06 |
efried | okay, cool. donnyd has some practical experience in case Emilien needs to sleep. | 20:06 |
donnyd | I worked with it daily for a couple years or so | 20:06 |
donnyd | So what stage are you at | 20:07 |
phyrox | hmm.... maybe I will take you on that offer then donnyd | 20:07 |
donnyd | I am happy to help | 20:07 |
phyrox | so, undercloud should be working OK | 20:07 |
phyrox | aaaaalmost ready to deploy overcloud... but two blockers | 20:07 |
phyrox | raid config, and a sanity check on the network | 20:07 |
phyrox | for raid my problem is that maybe I'm missing something on the docs, because the only thing I've found is... very short | 20:08 |
donnyd | In my experience its best to get a basic cloud running, and validate the images you have | 20:08 |
donnyd | then move to more advanced things | 20:08 |
phyrox | yep, I was about to ditch the raid | 20:09 |
phyrox | but you know, one last try | 20:09 |
donnyd | Steps I usually go through to get a cloud deployed. Setup switch, then undercloud, then basic deploy, then isolated networks, then advanced customizations like RAID | 20:10 |
donnyd | Which one of those are you at? | 20:10 |
phyrox | undercloud / isolated | 20:11 |
donnyd | Also which release | 20:11 |
phyrox | stein | 20:11 |
phyrox | i wanted to deploy today without raid | 20:11 |
donnyd | You have a place to share your templates? | 20:11 |
phyrox | and start fixing stuff | 20:11 |
phyrox | sure, I can find somewhere | 20:11 |
donnyd | Its best if you can verify that the cloud will deploy with basic parameters. Test the bits for sanity to make sure they all work as intended | 20:12 |
phyrox | how difficult / time consuming is to redeploy the overcloud? | 20:12 |
donnyd | It will save you lots of T/S time when something doesn't work right | 20:12 |
donnyd | depends on what you are doing, anything network layer or below I delete and redeploy as part of my standard process | 20:13 |
donnyd | So on my old gear its about a 2 hour cycle | 20:13 |
donnyd | I should also ask what backends you have in play and what services you are intending to deploy | 20:13 |
donnyd | Mainly Ceph | 20:14 |
phyrox | default roles, 3 of each, ceph as storage | 20:14 |
donnyd | Difficult is not really a thing in Tripleo | 20:14 |
donnyd | openstack stack delete overcloud --yes | 20:14 |
phyrox | ohhhhh | 20:15 |
donnyd | and then I write a bash script to take care of deployment side template includes | 20:15 |
phyrox | if its only that... I feel more confident | 20:15 |
donnyd | Yea, ironic is the bees when it comes to this kind of thing.. So long as your undercloud is working correctly and can deploy a functional cloud its all push button | 20:16 |
donnyd | The idea is it should be completely and fully automated.. if you can't do it that way... then "automated cloud" isn't a thing | 20:16 |
donnyd | I have some older templates that I can share, and if you can put yours in some sort of repo we can collaborate on getting your stuff running | 20:18 |
phyrox | on it | 20:18 |
donnyd | :) | 20:18 |
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