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| rakhmerov | therve: hi | 05:42 |
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| rakhmerov | you here? | 05:42 |
| rakhmerov | therve, d0ugal: just want to check if you got anything you on that SQLA issue | 05:43 |
| rakhmerov | I saw the patch from therve but I don't quite understand it. Is this a bug in SQLA after all or no? | 05:44 |
| rakhmerov | therve: so, you just added this field in each subclass of Execution which seems strange to me | 05:44 |
| rakhmerov | once you online please ping me | 05:45 |
| rakhmerov | therve: also, did you have a chance to talk to Mike? | 05:45 |
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| d0ugal | rakhmerov: hey, I didn't really have time to look at it further sorry | 07:05 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: np | 07:05 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: what's therve's time zone? | 07:06 |
| rakhmerov | I wonder when he usually appears online | 07:06 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I think he is in Paris | 07:07 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, ok | 07:07 |
| d0ugal | but I don't know what hours he normally works :) | 07:07 |
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| d0ugal | but I guess he will be around soon. | 07:07 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I'll wait | 07:07 |
| rakhmerov | np | 07:07 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: oh, don't wait :) | 07:08 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I just checked the vacation calendar, he is away this week. | 07:08 |
| rakhmerov | aaah | 07:08 |
| rakhmerov | ok, np | 07:08 |
| rakhmerov | then I'll take over this patch | 07:08 |
| d0ugal | cool | 07:08 |
| rakhmerov | we need to fix it asap | 07:08 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: 1.1.8 might help? | 07:09 |
| rakhmerov | is it already issued? | 07:10 |
| d0ugal | yup | 07:10 |
| rakhmerov | we need to try | 07:10 |
| d0ugal | I'll try now. | 07:10 |
| rakhmerov | did you see the release notes? Is there anything about our issue maybe? | 07:10 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 07:10 |
| d0ugal | http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/changelog/changelog_11.html#change-1.1.8 | 07:10 |
| d0ugal | Looks related. | 07:11 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: because again, what therve has fixed in the patch seems to be a bug in SQLA | 07:11 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah, that is our issue I think | 07:12 |
| rakhmerov | is 1.1.8 already in global requirements? | 07:12 |
| rakhmerov | ok, it's SQLAlchemy>=1.0.10 so it should be pulled | 07:13 |
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| rakhmerov | and in upper-constraints.txt it's SQLAlchemy===1.1.8 | 07:14 |
| * d0ugal is having internet issues | 07:16 | |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I just rechecked on of the failing patches | 07:16 |
| d0ugal | cool, fingers crossed :) | 07:16 |
| rakhmerov | as far as I understand it should pull the new SQLA | 07:17 |
| d0ugal | yup, I think so | 07:17 |
| d0ugal | my tests locally did - waiting for them to finish | 07:17 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 07:17 |
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| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I am still seeing some failures | 07:22 |
| d0ugal | but only a couple | 07:22 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: hey, the result is the same as after therve's patch | 07:22 |
| rakhmerov | which is good | 07:22 |
| d0ugal | http://paste.openstack.org/show/605203/ | 07:22 |
| rakhmerov | that's a different thing | 07:24 |
| rakhmerov | http://logs.openstack.org/96/452396/1/check/gate-mistral-python35/8a56885/testr_results.html.gz | 07:24 |
| d0ugal | and the same two failed for me in python 2 | 07:25 |
| d0ugal | so why are more failing in CI? :) | 07:25 |
| rakhmerov | in CI there's the same issue everywhere related to charset | 07:26 |
| rakhmerov | in API controller tests | 07:26 |
| rakhmerov | I like this issue much better | 07:26 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 07:26 |
| d0ugal | hah | 07:27 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: my assumption is that your local failures is a result of bad test design, I've seen similar (or same) issues with these expiration policy tests | 07:29 |
| rakhmerov | I believe we even have a bug to fix this test | 07:30 |
| d0ugal | I see | 07:30 |
| rakhmerov | to eliminate race conditions | 07:30 |
| d0ugal | I've not seen them fail locall before (only the tz bug that thrash|g0ne fixed) | 07:30 |
| d0ugal | locally* | 07:30 |
| rakhmerov | try to run them several times | 07:30 |
| d0ugal | I do :) | 07:30 |
| d0ugal | but I can try again, if they are unstable we should fix that. | 07:31 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 07:32 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I'll take a look at this charset issue.. | 07:32 |
| rakhmerov | it should be something simple | 07:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Kupai József proposed openstack/mistral master: Limit the number of finished executions. https://review.openstack.org/446680 | 07:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/mistral master: Explicitly set charset to UTF-8 in rest_utils for webob.Response https://review.openstack.org/452620 | 07:40 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: this should help | 07:41 |
| rakhmerov | I guess something has recently changed in webob and it now always requires UTF-8 | 07:41 |
| rakhmerov | sorry, not utf-8 | 07:41 |
| rakhmerov | a charset rather.. | 07:41 |
| d0ugal | aha, cool | 07:48 |
| rakhmerov | yes, it did help | 07:48 |
| rakhmerov | I'd suggest we merge it asap | 07:48 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: hi, can you please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452620/? We need to merge it asap to unblock development | 07:48 |
| mgershen | sure | 07:51 |
| rakhmerov | thx | 07:51 |
| mgershen | you want workflow+1 even though there are no tests yet? | 07:52 |
| mgershen | rakhmerov ^ | 07:52 |
| rakhmerov | yes, no need in any special tests I think. Before this patch a number of tests were failing due to some requirements update | 07:53 |
| rakhmerov | this patch fixed them | 07:53 |
| rakhmerov | thanks | 07:54 |
| rakhmerov | once it's merge we'll be able to continue merging patches | 07:54 |
| mgershen | OK. I meant waiting for tests to run (not writing new tests), but just as well... | 07:54 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: when I told you about this patch I already saw that unit tests passed :) | 07:56 |
| rakhmerov | I believe functional tests will be ok too | 07:56 |
| mgershen | ok, let me know if you need me to review other things. | 07:57 |
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| tuan__ | Morning folks, | 08:19 |
| d0ugal | Hey | 08:19 |
| tuan__ | based on the discussion of expired tokne | 08:20 |
| tuan__ | what about this bp | 08:20 |
| tuan__ | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/ocata/allow-expired.html | 08:20 |
| tuan__ | i saw that keystone allow the expired token and this patched in actually merged in Octaka | 08:20 |
| tuan__ | i am asking this question in keystone channel and hope they can have the right answer for us | 08:21 |
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| d0ugal | tuan__: this is why an email thread would be good - then we can have input from different projects. | 08:32 |
| tuan__ | d0ugal: yep | 08:34 |
| tuan__ | and i am still waiting for it | 08:34 |
| tuan__ | haha, i will update more information when i have answer | 08:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/mistral master: Explicitly set charset to UTF-8 in rest_utils for webob.Response https://review.openstack.org/452620 | 09:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kuznetsova proposed openstack/mistral master: Fix work of task() without task name within on-clause cases https://review.openstack.org/451340 | 09:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/mistral master: Limit the number of finished executions. https://review.openstack.org/446680 | 09:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/mistral master: Remove unnecessary tearDown function in testcase https://review.openstack.org/452396 | 09:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/mistral master: Add check for idempotent id in tempest tests https://review.openstack.org/452420 | 09:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/mistral master: Remove unnecessary setUp function in testcase https://review.openstack.org/451760 | 09:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/mistral master: Dynamic workflow name evaluation. https://review.openstack.org/434106 | 09:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/mistral master: Role based resource access control - get executions https://review.openstack.org/450121 | 09:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/mistral master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/451402 | 09:43 |
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| d0ugal | toure: ping for when you are around | 11:10 |
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| jenner_ | heya | 11:14 |
| d0ugal | jenner_: hi! | 11:14 |
| jenner_ | guys, is there a way to run mistral with a horizon dashboard without keystone? | 11:14 |
| d0ugal | Good question. I guess that requires running Horizon without Keystone - is that possible? | 11:15 |
| jenner_ | I'm trying to figure out if we can use it as a general purpose WF engine, and visualising a couple of thing would be nice (even if not a hard requirement) | 11:16 |
| d0ugal | It can be used as a general purpose WF engine - people do that. | 11:16 |
| d0ugal | but I'm not sure if they use the mistral-dashboard. | 11:16 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: do you know? | 11:16 |
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| rakhmerov | hm... | 11:16 |
| jenner_ | oh, apparently there's a way: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1580116 (my google fu is weak today) | 11:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1580116 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Make sure Horizon can run without Neutron, Glance, Nova and Keystone" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to Steve McLellan (sjmc7) | 11:17 |
| rakhmerov | jenner_: yes, you can use it as a general purpose WF (our main use case by now, btw) but I believe Dashboard can't be used without Keystone for now | 11:18 |
| jenner_ | rakhmerov: thanks | 11:18 |
| rakhmerov | jenner_: actually, we're developing a separate much more advanced UI tool for Mistral now | 11:19 |
| rakhmerov | which is going to be a standalone tool (not part of Horizon) | 11:19 |
| rakhmerov | it's not open sourced yet though | 11:19 |
| d0ugal | and there is no public information either :) | 11:19 |
| * d0ugal wants to see it | 11:19 | |
| rakhmerov | yeah, just not yet | 11:19 |
| rakhmerov | I saw internal demos, and it's supercool already | 11:20 |
| rakhmerov | but there's no public info yet, right | 11:20 |
| rakhmerov | hopefully soon (1-2 months) | 11:20 |
| jenner_ | nice | 11:23 |
| jenner_ | rakhmerov: are you going to anounce it somewhere sometime (if at all)? | 11:23 |
| rakhmerov | yes we are | 11:24 |
| rakhmerov | I can't tell now where and how though | 11:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed openstack/mistral-specs master: [WIP] Workflow Error Analysis https://review.openstack.org/443217 | 11:29 |
| rakhmerov | jenner_: getting back to your question about Keystone. Maybe there's a way but I've never done it. Mistral itself can work with auth disabled (or using Keycloak), I'm just not sure how it's going to work with Horizon, e.g. we still need info about tenants etc. | 11:29 |
| rakhmerov | so seems like it's mostly a question to Horizon if it supports this case | 11:30 |
| jenner_ | rakhmerov: I see, thanks... looks like I'll just wait a bit for an alternative or skip the UI part as we don't really need it urgently | 11:31 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 11:31 |
| rakhmerov | jenner_: feel free to ask any questions here or in the mailing list | 11:31 |
| jenner_ | I definitely will, I actually have a list of questions for our decision matrix, but I'd rather don't bother you guys with it :) | 11:33 |
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| d0ugal | mgershen: hey, if you have time could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/446996 ? | 11:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/mistral master: Fix work of task() without task name within on-clause cases https://review.openstack.org/451340 | 11:41 |
| jenner_ | I've might hit an ubuntu bug here, but it seems like there are not std actions defined after I install mistral-(api|engine|executor) :( | 11:46 |
| jenner_ | not even std.echo | 11:46 |
| rakhmerov | jenner_: may be you need to run mistral-db-manage populate | 11:48 |
| jenner_ | rakhmerov: it errors out 13:29:01 openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed openstack/mistral-specs master: [WIP] Workflow Error Analysis │ dmellado | 11:54 |
| jenner_ | ups, sorry | 11:54 |
| dmellado | jenner_: wasup? | 11:54 |
| jenner_ | rakhmerov: it errors out - https://dpaste.de/H7mR | 11:55 |
| jenner_ | dmellado: wrong paste buffer, sorry :) | 11:55 |
| dmellado | np! ;) | 11:55 |
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| jenner_ | rakhmerov: yeah, that's a confirmed bug, looks like I'm better off installing mistral from sources anyway | 12:01 |
| jenner_ | the latest master seems to be working (pip install), however "auth_enable = False" in [pecan] section seems to be ignored -- I keep getting "ERROR (app) Operation not allowed" | 12:26 |
| mgershen | d0ugal: approved. Looks great! | 12:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/mistral-specs master: Mistral Actions Library https://review.openstack.org/446996 | 12:32 |
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| d0ugal | mgershen: thanks! | 12:40 |
| d0ugal | jenner_: interesting, that should work - I tried it fairly recently. | 12:42 |
| d0ugal | but not for a week or so | 12:42 |
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| jenner_ | https://github.com/openstack/mistral/blob/master/mistral/api/access_control.py#L64 checks for auth_type but not for cfg.CONF.pecan.auth_enable like in #L28 | 12:51 |
| jenner_ | changed #L64 to "if not cfg.CONF.pecan.auth_enable or cfg.CONF.auth_type != 'keystone':" and it now seems to work, dunno if it breaks something else though :( | 12:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed openstack/mistral master: Don't create actions with empty arg_lists https://review.openstack.org/412433 | 12:59 |
| jenner_ | btw, any thoughts about defining the API via OAI (swagger 2) or RAML? | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed openstack/mistral master: Don't create actions when inspection fails https://review.openstack.org/412433 | 13:02 |
| d0ugal | jenner_: can you open a bug about the auth_type? | 13:03 |
| d0ugal | jenner_: It would be need to look at oai/raml. I have heard of the projects but otherwise don't have much experience with them. | 13:04 |
| jenner_ | d0ugal: we're currently specifying/documenting all APIs with RAML, but it looks like OAI is the way to go, since it's now backed by a couple of big players - you basically define an API in YAML or JSON which allows you to 1) generate docs 2) create automatic tests 3) validate and convert URI and query parameters etc | 13:08 |
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| jenner_ | d0ugal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1679180 | 13:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1679180 in Mistral "pecan.auth_enable ignored when running without keystone" [Undecided,New] | 13:25 |
| jenner_ | duh, I thought launchpad supported markdown :( | 13:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed openstack/mistral master: Add documentation for the engine commands https://review.openstack.org/435438 | 13:28 |
| d0ugal | jenner_: nen, no worries - it is easy to read. Thanks! | 13:29 |
| d0ugal | Lauchpad doesn't support fancy modern things like markdown ;) | 13:29 |
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| toure | rbrady chrome just died | 13:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/mistral master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/451402 | 13:52 |
| jenner_ | so guys, what happens when I have a long-running WF execution and one of the actions used in it but not called yet is updated in between? | 13:57 |
| jenner_ | also, is there some sort of crash recovery? | 13:57 |
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| toure | d0ugal pong | 14:12 |
| d0ugal | toure: hey, it was just to let you know that I updated your spec | 14:15 |
| d0ugal | toure: I was curious to find out why it failed CI :) | 14:16 |
| toure | d0ugal which one of the specs? | 14:19 |
| toure | d0ugal nm | 14:19 |
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| d0ugal | toure: do you have more than one? :) | 14:20 |
| toure | yeah but there is only one for mistral | 14:24 |
| toure | :) | 14:24 |
| toure | thanks for reviewing it | 14:24 |
| toure | d0ugal thanks the patch :) | 14:25 |
| d0ugal | np | 14:27 |
| toure | nothing like steering at something so long that you don't see the small problems | 14:28 |
| toure | :) | 14:28 |
| d0ugal | toure: I had to compre it with another spec to find the missing .. at the start | 14:29 |
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| toure | yeah, I would have never found that :) | 14:30 |
| toure | I think the template maybe broken then, as that is what I started from | 14:30 |
| * toure checks templates | 14:31 | |
| toure | nope just my spec was missing that, I guess I figured that was just odd characters on top of the doc : | 14:32 |
| toure | :p | 14:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kuznetsova proposed openstack/mistral master: Change Http action result content encoding https://review.openstack.org/449143 | 14:36 |
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| rakhmerov | jenner_: what do you mean by "action updated in between"? | 14:52 |
| rakhmerov | jenner_: as far as crash recovery, what kind of crash do you mean? Crash of mistral components or failing workflow actions? | 14:54 |
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| rakhmerov | as far as crashing mistral components, it's not 100% able to recover in certain cases | 14:55 |
| rakhmerov | we're improving it now | 14:56 |
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| jenner_ | rakhmerov: imagine a WF that runs two days, at the end of day one a task is updated (code-wise) that has not been executed yet, does run the updated task or the one it saw right after it was executed? | 14:56 |
| jenner_ | rakhmerov: IOW workflow versioning - yes or no? :) | 14:56 |
| jenner_ | s/does run/does mistral run/ | 14:57 |
| rakhmerov | WF is not going to change | 14:57 |
| rakhmerov | but actions can change :) | 14:57 |
| rakhmerov | if you redeploy actions in the middle | 14:58 |
| jenner_ | rakhmerov: ok, so if I update the WF definition itself, then it will still run the old one until it reaches the end state? | 14:58 |
| jenner_ | ok | 14:58 |
| rakhmerov | true | 14:58 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 14:58 |
| rakhmerov | but actions are associated with python code | 14:58 |
| rakhmerov | and it can be redeployed and then it'll run the new code | 14:59 |
| jenner_ | crash recovery: one of the executors dies (e.g. the whole machine goes down for some reason) while running a WF | 15:00 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:00 |
| rakhmerov | in this case the worst thing that can happen: some action can be executed twice | 15:00 |
| d0ugal | Meeting time! | 15:00 |
| rakhmerov | if it's idempotent that's not a problem | 15:01 |
| jenner_ | ok | 15:01 |
| rakhmerov | team meeting at #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:01 |
| jenner_ | have fun :) | 15:01 |
| jenner_ | thanks for the infos | 15:01 |
| d0ugal | thrash, toure, apetrich - meeting ;) | 15:02 |
| toure | yup | 15:03 |
| jenner_ | hm, but who's recovering the crashed execution? 1) can another executor handle it 2) the crashed executor can pick up where it left after e.g. reboot or redeployment? | 15:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/mistral master: Role based resource access control - get executions https://review.openstack.org/450121 | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | jenner_: another executor | 15:22 |
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| jenner_ | rakhmerov: so it's "at least once" for idempotent WFs, non-idempotent WFs might end up calling tasks multiple times, no rollback or other automatic recovery, right? | 15:36 |
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| rakhmerov | jenner_: you got it right, it's "at least once" | 15:45 |
| rakhmerov | nope, we have a big workstream that is about to start to address more tricky crash scenarios | 15:46 |
| rakhmerov | literally in 1-2 weeks we'll be working more actively on that | 15:46 |
| rakhmerov | so in general, that workstream will be devoted to improving scalability and HA (and all that HA assumes including recovery from various bad situations) | 15:48 |
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| rakhmerov | jenner_: I'm off for today, I'll be available tomorrow if you need to talk more | 15:49 |
| rakhmerov | thanks for your interest | 15:49 |
| rakhmerov | you can also write emails to openstack-dev (with tag [mistral]) or my personal email too (renat.akhmerov@gmail.com) | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Toure Dunnon proposed openstack/python-mistralclient master: [WIP] Workflow Error Analysis Client updates. https://review.openstack.org/452901 | 19:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed openstack/mistral master: Role based resource access control - delete executions https://review.openstack.org/451255 | 23:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed openstack/mistral master: Role based resource access control - update executions https://review.openstack.org/451160 | 23:43 |
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