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| d0ugal | Hey everyone | 08:01 |
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| d0ugal | #startmeeting Mistral | 08:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 31 08:01:57 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is d0ugal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 08:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 08:02 |
| d0ugal | Who is around today for the office hour? | 08:02 |
| d0ugal | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-office-hours | 08:02 |
| d0ugal | PING rakhmerov, apetrich, bobh, mcdoker181818, akovi, hardikjasani | 08:02 |
| d0ugal | As usual, add or remove your name from the pinglist in the etherpad if you do or don't wany pings :) | 08:03 |
| d0ugal | We have one new bug - it looks like the unit tests are failing in Python 3.7 | 08:05 |
| d0ugal | https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1790001 | 08:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1790001 in Mistral "Py3.7 tests result in core dump" [Undecided,New] | 08:05 |
| d0ugal | I actually noticed this before, but forgot to report a bug :) | 08:05 |
| hardikjasani | d0ugal: hey | 08:07 |
| d0ugal | Hi! | 08:07 |
| hardikjasani | Is Openstack mandating compat of all projects with py3.7? | 08:07 |
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| d0ugal | hardikjasani: no, not yet | 08:07 |
| d0ugal | Rocky targets 3.5, Stein 3.6 (iirc) | 08:07 |
| d0ugal | but we will want to support 3.7 eventually | 08:07 |
| d0ugal | :) | 08:08 |
| hardikjasani | That is a fast move for a big project. I think py2.7 requirement will not be dropped for foreseeable future. | 08:10 |
| d0ugal | hardikjasani: Adopting new 3.X versions is generally easy | 08:11 |
| d0ugal | hardikjasani: and I suspect 2.7 will be dropped sooner than you think | 08:11 |
| d0ugal | The goal for stein is to be "python 3 first" | 08:11 |
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| d0ugal | hardikjasani: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/stein/python3-first.html | 08:12 |
| hardikjasani | Need major enterprise distro to move to python3 first say RHEL, CentOS, debian & derivatives | 08:12 |
| d0ugal | hardikjasani: well, yes, but you can get Python 3 on all of these already | 08:12 |
| d0ugal | and that is the problem of the downstream companies :) | 08:13 |
| d0ugal | hardikjasani: Python 2 is also not supported at the end of this year, none of these distros want to take on that problem | 08:13 |
| d0ugal | so the motivation to move is stronger than ever | 08:13 |
| hardikjasani | There is a bug with SSHAction not working under py3, did you run into that? | 08:14 |
| d0ugal | I seen a bug report. I don't use that action. | 08:14 |
| hardikjasani | Neither do we, but someone is going to run into that eventually. | 08:16 |
| d0ugal | Indeed | 08:16 |
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| d0ugal | Fixes welcome :-D | 08:17 |
| d0ugal | hardikjasani: there is also this btw: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180529-python2-deprecation-timeline.html#python2-deprecation-timeline | 08:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/mistral master: Performance: remove unnecessary workflow execution update https://review.openstack.org/598501 | 08:19 |
| d0ugal | "Python 2 is also not supported at the end of this year" - I did mean to write "end of next year" | 08:20 |
| d0ugal | so based on that last link, we should be dropping support for Python 2 in the U cycle, which will release early 2020 | 08:21 |
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| d0ugal | so not very soon, but it is a forseeable future at least :) | 08:21 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: hey | 08:23 |
| rakhmerov | discussing anything? | 08:23 |
| d0ugal | Hi rakhmerov | 08:23 |
| rakhmerov | I just realized that I wasn't joined to the channel :) | 08:23 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Only a little bit of discussion about Python 3 support (and deprecating python 2) with hardikjasani | 08:24 |
| rakhmerov | and how are things going in general? | 08:24 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 08:24 |
| d0ugal | Everything is good, Rocky release this week! | 08:24 |
| rakhmerov | yeah! | 08:24 |
| rakhmerov | awesome | 08:24 |
| rakhmerov | please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/598501 | 08:24 |
| rakhmerov | another huge improvement (bugfix actually) | 08:24 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: did you know the goal is to drop Python 2 support in the U cycle? | 08:25 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: nope, I didn't! | 08:25 |
| d0ugal | See these two links... | 08:25 |
| rakhmerov | and we're still using Py2 in the company (the fact that I hate) | 08:25 |
| d0ugal | https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/stein/python3-first.html | 08:25 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 08:25 |
| d0ugal | https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180529-python2-deprecation-timeline.html#python2-deprecation-timeline | 08:25 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 08:25 |
| d0ugal | The goal for Stein is to be "python 3 first" | 08:26 |
| rakhmerov | so 1.5 years more | 08:26 |
| d0ugal | yeah | 08:26 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 08:26 |
| d0ugal | now everyone defaults to python 2, changing that default to 3 is a good start | 08:26 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I think that's going to be enough time for people to move to Py3 | 08:26 |
| rakhmerov | agree | 08:26 |
| d0ugal | It is going to be lots of fun digging out Python 2 compat code and deleting it :) | 08:27 |
| rakhmerov | yeah :) | 08:27 |
| rakhmerov | lot of easy karma for someone ) | 08:27 |
| d0ugal | haha, yeah | 08:27 |
| rakhmerov | well, maybe not so easy though ) | 08:27 |
| d0ugal | Probably some easy places, but I guess that is more in the oslo code | 08:28 |
| rakhmerov | hope so | 08:28 |
| d0ugal | oh and deleting all the "six" imports :) | 08:28 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 08:29 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: so just FYI, https://review.openstack.org/598501 makes highly parallel workflows twice as fast (e.g. when we have hundreds of parallel branches) | 08:30 |
| rakhmerov | we absolutely need it in Rocky | 08:30 |
| d0ugal | Nice | 08:31 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Rocky already released, so it will need to be backported and released as 7.0.1 | 08:31 |
| d0ugal | rlease note and bug report please | 08:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-mistralclient stable/rocky: Revert "Make Tripleo non-voting on Rocky" https://review.openstack.org/598532 | 08:33 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yes, sure | 08:34 |
| rakhmerov | I'll do it | 08:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Dougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-mistralclient stable/rocky: Revert "Make Tripleo non-voting on Rocky" https://review.openstack.org/598532 | 08:38 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: so I assign the bug to S-1 now, right? | 08:39 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Yeah | 08:39 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 08:39 |
| d0ugal | I'm just about to close the rc2 milestone :) | 08:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/mistral master: Performance: remove unnecessary workflow execution update https://review.openstack.org/598501 | 08:40 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: ok | 08:46 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: btw, we (Nokia) don't need 7.0.1 release. We use the latest builds (RDO RPMs) made out of the stable/rocky branch | 08:47 |
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| d0ugal | rakhmerov: okay, cool | 08:48 |
| d0ugal | I didn't know that RDO included unreleased patches | 08:48 |
| d0ugal | :) | 08:48 |
| d0ugal | but we should do the release anyway, makes things clearer | 08:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/mistral master: Performance: remove unnecessary workflow execution update https://review.openstack.org/598501 | 08:50 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yes, I agree | 08:51 |
| rakhmerov | it was just FYI | 08:51 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: so the bug report and the release note are ready | 08:51 |
| d0ugal | sure | 08:51 |
| d0ugal | great, thanks! | 08:52 |
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| d0ugal | #endmeeting | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mistral the Workflow Service for OpenStack. https://docs.openstack.org/mistral/latest/" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 31 09:01:23 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2018/mistral.2018-08-31-08.01.html | 09:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2018/mistral.2018-08-31-08.01.txt | 09:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2018/mistral.2018-08-31-08.01.log.html | 09:01 |
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