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witek | Courtesy Monasca meeting reminder in #openstack-monasca: witek, jayahn,iurygregory,ezpz,igorn,haad,sc,joadavis, akiraY,tobiajo,dougsz,fouadben, amofakhar, haru5ny (haruki),kaiokmo,pandiyan,guilhermesp,chaconpiza,hosanai,Wasaac,brtknr | 12:59 |
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witek | #startmeeting monasca | 13:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 3 13:00:18 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 13:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 13:00 |
witek | hello everyone | 13:00 |
dougsz | hey all | 13:00 |
witek | hi Doug | 13:01 |
witek | the agenda is very light | 13:02 |
witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 13:02 |
witek | dougsz: do you have anything else to discuss today? | 13:02 |
dougsz | I started revamping the Prometheus plugin for Monasca Agent | 13:03 |
witek | please add to the agenda if applicable | 13:04 |
witek | let's start | 13:04 |
dougsz | yeah - probably not worth discussing in detail this week - will wait until more testing has been done | 13:04 |
witek | #topic logs CI job | 13:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "logs CI job (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 13:04 | |
witek | small progress on logs CI job | 13:04 |
witek | I've added DEBUG logging level for ES | 13:04 |
witek | https://review.opendev.org/696889 | 13:05 |
witek | and from what I understand the logs look OK | 13:05 |
dougsz | Good idea | 13:05 |
witek | it's just that the logs don't get posted to ES | 13:06 |
witek | so we have to investigate further which component earlier in the pipeline stops working correctly | 13:07 |
witek | I've confirmed already earlier that the logs get published to Kafka | 13:07 |
witek | so the next candidate would be logs-persister (Logstash) or Kafka itself | 13:08 |
witek | #topic monasca-agent Kafka plugin bug | 13:09 |
*** openstack changes topic to "monasca-agent Kafka plugin bug (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 13:09 | |
dougsz | We saw one issue with logstash output plugin not posting logs recently, but it turned out to be related to /etc/hosts config | 13:09 |
dougsz | so it's unlikely to be that, given it sometimes passes | 13:09 |
witek | you mean logstash-monasca output plugin? | 13:10 |
witek | logs-persister uses ES output plugin | 13:10 |
dougsz | sorry, logstash kafka output plugin - which I am not sure applied here | 13:10 |
witek | no | 13:11 |
witek | when looking at Kafka I've noticed it's not monitored correctly on DevStack | 13:12 |
witek | the agent's plugin need a refresh | 13:12 |
witek | Kafka plugin | 13:12 |
witek | I've put some notes together: | 13:13 |
witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2006977 | 13:13 |
dougsz | Thanks, I've added myself as a watcher | 13:14 |
dougsz | I figure there are going to be a lot of py3 related issues this cycle | 13:14 |
witek | yes, on the agent side most of all I think | 13:14 |
witek | #topic AOB | 13:15 |
*** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 13:15 | |
witek | for Prometheus plugin, have you looked at DataDog plugin? | 13:16 |
witek | https://github.com/DataDog/integrations-core/tree/master/prometheus | 13:17 |
dougsz | Hmm, no, thanks for that | 13:17 |
witek | not sure if it helps, but may be worth checking | 13:18 |
dougsz | Yeah, looks like it's missing some of the bits I need | 13:18 |
dougsz | 1. Division of metrics for calculating percentages | 13:18 |
dougsz | 2. Converting counters to rates - looks like it can send deltas which isn't quite what I need | 13:19 |
witek | it would be nice to have these, indeed | 13:19 |
dougsz | I see there is some control for not scraping everything, that is 3) for me | 13:20 |
dougsz | I commonly see 1MB + scrapes on prometheus endpoints which is crazy | 13:20 |
brtknr | i have a question if i may after you dougsz | 13:22 |
dougsz | go for it brtknr | 13:22 |
brtknr | I was wondering if monasca-api supports metrics aggrgation at source | 13:22 |
brtknr | e.g. 30 min average | 13:23 |
brtknr | or daily average | 13:23 |
witek | no | 13:23 |
witek | we could extend the API, and send queries to InfluxDB | 13:23 |
brtknr | i know InfluxDB supports this but wasnt sure if monasca provides a route to this functionality | 13:23 |
witek | right, that would be easy to implement and very useful | 13:24 |
brtknr | is there demand for this feature? | 13:24 |
witek | the downside, we cannot use it for alerting | 13:24 |
witek | I think we should add this if we have developers who could and want to work on it | 13:25 |
dougsz | +1 | 13:27 |
brtknr | dougsz: we should probably ask our customers if they'd like us to develop this feature | 13:27 |
dougsz | it won't hurt, but i'm not aware of any demand | 13:28 |
dougsz | I suppose I am slightly worried about tighter integration with InfluxDB | 13:29 |
brtknr | dougsz: are there no devs who want to implement cassandra backend? | 13:31 |
brtknr | dougsz: there are a few loose ends with timerange scoping too | 13:31 |
brtknr | which simply emit warning in the logs and carry on with previous behaviour | 13:32 |
witek | I wouldn't be worried about tighter integration with InfluxDB | 13:34 |
witek | some functionality (like avg, or rate) could be available on InfluxDB only | 13:34 |
dougsz | That's true. I am tempted to try TimescaleDB one day | 13:35 |
dougsz | If would at least be nice to know if it is any good before putting more effort into InfluxDB | 13:35 |
brtknr | Its significantly faster to query summary metrics vs every single data point | 13:37 |
brtknr | A quick test for this is to use the influxdb backend directly and use set intervals to calculate averages | 13:38 |
witek | brtknr: for averages you can use `metric-statistics` | 13:38 |
brtknr | from gravana | 13:38 |
witek | https://github.com/openstack/monasca-api/blob/master/docs/monasca-api-spec.md#get-v20metricsstatistics | 13:38 |
brtknr | from grafana | 13:38 |
brtknr | witek: cool | 13:39 |
witek | not sure how performant it is for longer time ranges | 13:40 |
witek | on another topic, we still have a number of open reviews | 13:42 |
witek | I just copied the links over from last week | 13:44 |
witek | anything else for today? | 13:44 |
witek | thanks for joining | 13:45 |
witek | and see you next week | 13:45 |
witek | bye | 13:45 |
witek | #endmeeting | 13:45 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Monitoring as a Service | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca" | 13:45 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 3 13:45:37 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:45 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2019/monasca.2019-12-03-13.00.html | 13:45 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2019/monasca.2019-12-03-13.00.txt | 13:45 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2019/monasca.2019-12-03-13.00.log.html | 13:45 |
dougsz | thanks all, bye | 13:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Arseni Lipinski proposed openstack/monasca-api master: Upgrade Elkstack in new API https://review.opendev.org/697123 | 16:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Arseni Lipinski proposed openstack/monasca-api master: Upgrade Elkstack in new API https://review.opendev.org/697123 | 16:32 |
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