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| witek | Courtesy Monasca meeting reminder in 5 minutes in #openstack-monasca: witek, jayahn,iurygregory,ezpz,igorn,haad,sc,joadavis, akiraY,tobiajo,dougsz,fouadben, amofakhar, haru5ny (haruki),kaiokmo,pandiyan,guilhermesp,chaconpiza,hosanai,Wasaac,brtknr,bandorf | 12:55 |
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| Dobroslaw | hi | 12:59 |
| witek | hi Dobroslaw | 12:59 |
| bandorf | Hello, everybody | 12:59 |
| witek | hi bandorf | 13:00 |
| witek | let's start | 13:00 |
| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 24 13:00:37 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 13:00 |
| chaconpiza | Hi | 13:00 |
| witek | hi chaconpiza | 13:00 |
| witek | we've got few items on the agenda today | 13:01 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 13:01 |
| witek | #topic updating alarm expressions | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updating alarm expressions (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 13:01 | |
| witek | bandorf: stage is yours | 13:01 |
| bandorf | I added the current status of investigation in the agenda. | 13:02 |
| bandorf | I could not yet execute the tests, as discussed 3 weeks ago, due to other priorities. | 13:02 |
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| bandorf | Bt we've found some issue when further investigating for the issue. | 13:02 |
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| bandorf | And I still plan to execute these tests (do alarms work properly if we would apply updates for time/times/function?= | 13:03 |
| bandorf | Are there any further questions, regarding the descriptions I added as agenda? | 13:04 |
| witek | about the undetermined state | 13:04 |
| bandorf | Yes? | 13:04 |
| witek | although it could indeed indicate some problem in the thresholding engine | 13:05 |
| witek | in the real life I'd rather rely on alarms triggered to ALARM state | 13:05 |
| witek | also, the described "server down" scenario should probably not be monitored with the `times` operator | 13:06 |
| bandorf | So, you think about e.g. an alarm with expression "count(...) == 0" ? | 13:07 |
| bandorf | I agree, an explicit server monitoring shouldn't be done that way. That has impact only if there's no explicit alarm for that purpose | 13:07 |
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| witek | I'd evaluate `host_alive_status` or `http_status` metrics | 13:08 |
| witek | or similar | 13:08 |
| bandorf | OK, but the same would apply e.g. for services. | 13:08 |
| witek | the `times` operator is mainly for avoiding that a short single spike (e.g. in cpu or memory) triggers the alarm | 13:09 |
| bandorf | So, you wouldn't even consider this a bug? | 13:09 |
| witek | I think it is a bug, and could indicate other problems, but pragmatically could be avoided by careful configuration | 13:10 |
| bandorf | OK, agreed. If alarming has been set up 100% perfect, then, there wouldn't be a major impact. | 13:11 |
| bandorf | So, at least, we can state that there always should be a work-around | 13:12 |
| witek | or even more efficient way of monitoring than described case | 13:12 |
| chaconpiza | I recommended our customer to use http_status for monitoring keystone, instead of count + process. | 13:12 |
| witek | I could look up what we deploy per default in SOC | 13:14 |
| bandorf | OK. To summarize: It is a bug. But it's not a major one. Proper setup of alarm definitions/alarms will check status of servers and services more efficently. | 13:15 |
| witek | I'd assume so, but don't know the exact set-up | 13:16 |
| witek | the issue with late measurements is interesting | 13:16 |
| bandorf | Yes - one of the topics we want to investigate further. It occurs regularly, but not too frequently | 13:17 |
| bandorf | As of now, I don't have an explanation. I just know that it occurs independant on load. | 13:18 |
| witek | thanks bandorf for the update, good insights | 13:19 |
| witek | do we want to move on? | 13:19 |
| chaconpiza | One more question related | 13:19 |
| bandorf | Go ahead | 13:20 |
| chaconpiza | Yesterday bandorf ask me whether there are UI tests like Selenium for monasca-ui | 13:20 |
| chaconpiza | I know we don't have them, there was a blocker or a difficulty to implement it? | 13:20 |
| chaconpiza | I mean, do other projects have with horizon plugin have them? | 13:21 |
| witek | from what I recall, we haven't had IDs for UI elements which are required for testing | 13:22 |
| witek | adriancz_ could know more... | 13:22 |
| chaconpiza | A-ha... | 13:22 |
| witek | we could also reach out to Horizon team and ask about tooling which is avaialble | 13:22 |
| witek | and what other projects are doing | 13:23 |
| chaconpiza | So far I found this wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/Testing/UI | 13:23 |
| witek | s/projects/plugins | 13:23 |
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| witek | last edit of the page April 2015 | 13:24 |
| chaconpiza | :S | 13:24 |
| witek | but blueprint is marked as completed | 13:25 |
| witek | what do you think about reaching out to Horizon team? | 13:27 |
| chaconpiza | it is a good idea, I will contact them | 13:28 |
| witek | thanks chaconpiza | 13:28 |
| bandorf | ok, great | 13:28 |
| witek | #topic OpenDev + PTG | 13:28 |
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| witek | last week OpenStack Committee has officially canceled the Vancouver event | 13:29 |
| witek | and want to organize it in a virtual form | 13:30 |
| witek | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2020-March/002854.html | 13:30 |
| witek | there is not much planned yet, but they're asking for people who'd like to help | 13:31 |
| witek | here the volunteers list | 13:32 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Virtual_PTG_Planning | 13:32 |
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| witek | I think it's a good idea to hold Monasca session(s) during that virtual PTG as well | 13:33 |
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| witek | any comments on that? | 13:34 |
| chaconpiza | Virtual sessions will be held through webex ? | 13:34 |
| chaconpiza | or each team should define and provide the infra for the sessions? | 13:34 |
| witek | I don't know any details, till now there was nothing provided by the organizer but this time the situation is different | 13:35 |
| witek | I assume they might provide some infrastructure | 13:35 |
| chaconpiza | exactly | 13:35 |
| witek | to make it uniform between all the sessions | 13:36 |
| witek | #topic PTL nominations season | 13:37 |
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| witek | today the PTL self-nomination week has started | 13:38 |
| witek | I'm not candidating this time | 13:39 |
| chaconpiza | I commented internally in Fj that I am interested on that. I will follow the procedure to apply. | 13:39 |
| witek | great, thanks for stepping up! | 13:40 |
| bandorf | Great! | 13:40 |
| chaconpiza | Since next gathering is virtual and the next one is in Berlin, I feel better. | 13:40 |
| witek | I believe the change is good for the project and you'll bring new energy | 13:41 |
| chaconpiza | From the email you mentioned above: Open Infrastructure Summit in Berlin October 19-23 | 13:42 |
| witek | right, the date is set, I hope they won't have to cancel this one :/ | 13:42 |
| witek | I already got an unofficial approval to attend | 13:43 |
| chaconpiza | good news | 13:44 |
| witek | chaconpiza: please ping me if you have any questions | 13:45 |
| chaconpiza | Sure, thanks | 13:45 |
| witek | thank you as well :) | 13:46 |
| witek | alright, do we have anything else? | 13:46 |
| witek | thanks for joining then | 13:46 |
| witek | and see you next week | 13:46 |
| witek | bye | 13:46 |
| adriancz_ | thanks | 13:47 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 13:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 13:47:09 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:47 |
| adriancz_ | and bb | 13:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2020/monasca.2020-03-24-13.00.html | 13:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2020/monasca.2020-03-24-13.00.txt | 13:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2020/monasca.2020-03-24-13.00.log.html | 13:47 |
| chaconpiza | thanks bye | 13:47 |
| Dobroslaw | thanks | 13:47 |
| bandorf | Thaks, goodbye | 13:47 |
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