Monday, 2015-11-09

gongysh_russellb, hi00:04
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openstackgerritgongysh proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Add provider net segment infor into return network  https://review.openstack.org/24228401:21
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gsagieAnyone managed to run vagrant with latest code?15:11
russellbgsagie: mestery has been running it lately15:13
russellbi haven't been using vagrant15:13
mestery++, it's been working fine for me15:13
gsagieok, will try to see whats wrong15:13
mesterygsagie: I have to go to my son's school and read in 10 minutes15:14
mesteryBut I'll be back after the top of the hour or so15:14
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gsagieok15:14
russellbmestery: #dadops15:15
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openstackgerritNuman Siddique proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Pass the dhcp options to the OVN to support dhcp responder  https://review.openstack.org/24317415:48
gsagiedhcp support already merged in OVN? :) cool15:49
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mesteryrussellb: lol :)15:50
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russellbgsagie: not yet, up for review still16:00
russellbNuman is just ahead of the game and already working on the Neutron side too :)16:00
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gsagie_ajo: ping18:19
ajohi gsagie_18:19
gsagie_ajo: i was wondering, is the move to security groups implemented in OVS for the ref implementation is something that is planned for Mitaka?18:20
ajogsagie_ , yes, jlibosva is working on that AFAIK18:21
gsagie_ajo: ok thanks!18:21
ajogsagie_ , he started by writting functional tests to validate corner cases of security groups18:21
ajoand he was looking on the actual implementation now18:22
gsagie_okie cool, thanks.. we were wondering if it will make it into mitaka18:23
ajogsagie_ , I was also wondering if it could make sense to pull the ovs-dpdk reflective rules filtering into neutron reference solution18:24
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ajoso people could choose, and compare...18:25
gsagie_what are the reflective rules?18:25
ajogsagie_ , learning rules18:25
gsagie_using the Flow Director?18:25
ajowhen you see traffic going in one direction, you insert OF rules for the other (making it stateful)18:25
gsagie_ok, so they solve it like that18:26
ajofor example, you see traffic going to port 80, from port 1234, then you insert a rule for, going to 1234 from 80 from the dst of the original packet18:26
gsagie_however that sounds problematic security wise18:26
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ajogsagie_ , it's actually what connection tracker does :)18:26
gsagie_you need to know when the connection is terminated18:26
ajoyeah, that's true18:26
gsagie_no, connection tracking keeps track of the TCP connection..18:26
ajoI'm not sure if that's handled18:27
gsagie_this has holes in it :)18:27
ajogsagie_ : TCP, UDP, and ICMP18:27
ajouep18:27
ajoyep18:27
gsagie_for example when you expire these flows18:27
ajoyes,18:27
ajogsagie_ , it's not perfect,18:27
ajobut "mostly works"18:27
ajoalso it's slower , because the first traffic comming back has to go to ovs userland again18:28
gsagie_yeah18:28
ajountil you have a megaflow path back18:28
ajowith CT you already have the ct=+est in the megaflows probably (I guess), I'm speculating here18:28
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gsagie_well, its an integration with net filter, so it stays in the kernel if thats what you mean18:29
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gsagie_ajo: i don't think the solution that ovs-dpdk are using is really applicable, i would at least raise this in the mailing list before trying to bring it to Neutron18:33
gsagie_just to avoid doing wasted work18:33
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ajogsagie_ , of course18:35
ajogsagie_ , my thinking is that, probably, most of the work there is applicable to make the ovs/ct solution working18:35
ajoprobably they would be very similar18:36
ajoour could reuse code from each other...18:36
ajogsagie_ , but of course I wouldn't propose that to be the default reference solution18:36
russellbajo: there's work on a userspace implementation of the connection tracker18:39
russellbso you'll be able to use ovs+conntrack flows for both datapaths (ovs kernel datapath, and ovs dpdk datapath)18:40
russellbeventually anyway18:40
russellbi would *really* not go the other route with ovs+dpdk ...18:40
russellbsounds like a waste of effort18:44
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russellb... stupid internet problems, i wonder how much of my response made it through18:45
gsagie_?18:50
russellbhome internet keeps going out18:52
gsagie_you never disconnected..18:53
gsagie_from IRC at least :)18:54
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russellbi use a proxy18:55
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gsagie_[20:44] <russellb> sounds like a waste of effort18:56
gsagie_last line :)18:56
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