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| salv-orlando | enikanorov_: If it's a not a highly complex technical question I might be able to answer | 13:17 |
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| salv-orlando | but please don't ask hard question, I could not study because my dog ate the homework | 13:18 |
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| enikanorov__ | salv-orlando: so I'm now addint loadbalancer instance | 13:20 |
| enikanorov__ | and to be backward compatible, instance object is created with the pool | 13:20 |
| enikanorov__ | e.g. existing workflow is preserved | 13:20 |
| enikanorov__ | user creates a pool and gets enveloping instance (to attach more objects if needed) | 13:21 |
| enikanorov__ | and there is autodeletion as well so instance is deleted with the last attached object | 13:21 |
| enikanorov__ | and... for various reasons the logic that does that is in services/loadbalancer/plugin.py | 13:22 |
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| enikanorov__ | e.g. it's not in loadbalancer_db | 13:22 |
| enikanorov__ | and hence nicira lbaas while inheriting common object model, needs to be fixed to accomodate loadbalancer instance | 13:23 |
| enikanorov__ | salv-orlando: and i'm thinking about a better way to do that | 13:23 |
| salv-orlando | yes, makes sense. You already informed me about that. I think if there is an API change, even if bw compatible, the other plugins should do an effort to comply. | 13:23 |
| salv-orlando | It will be good to have simpler way, but if they then will cause you to add "magic" or other obscure code to the main db class, it's not a great idea. | 13:24 |
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| salv-orlando | Based on experience, the level of reliability of a software is inversely proportional to its complexity | 13:24 |
| enikanorov__ | sure. so in fact the first thing i did was adding autocreation/autodeletion to db plugin | 13:25 |
| enikanorov__ | but it appeared that it would be incompatible with how we comunicate with drivers | 13:25 |
| salv-orlando | ok | 13:25 |
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| enikanorov__ | so currently I've got test failures of nicira lbaas plugin. I think I'm going to fix it by implementing create/delete_pool in NiciraServicePlugin (because currently those methods are called from loadbalancer_db) | 13:27 |
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| salv-orlando | sorry for the delay. I had people trying to sell stuff at the door. | 13:41 |
| salv-orlando | enikanorov__: I will send an internal email to have someone from my team looking at it. | 13:41 |
| enikanorov__ | salv-orlando: thanks a lot. btw what did you buy? ;) | 13:42 |
| salv-orlando | I'll try to have someone doing that or at least helping you do that. | 13:42 |
| salv-orlando | some postcards for charity | 13:42 |
| salv-orlando | or at least they said it was for charity | 13:42 |
| salv-orlando | perhaps they're now buying crack with my money :) | 13:42 |
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| enikanorov__ | lol | 13:42 |
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| ajo | yamahata, yamahata__ I'm having time to go back into the namespaces cleanup | 14:36 |
| ajo | [root@rdo-storm openstack-neutron]# ip netns del qdhcp-f742e733-672e-4e76-8003-034185564a90 | 14:37 |
| ajo | [root@rdo-storm openstack-neutron]# ip netns exec qdhcp-f742e733-672e-4e76-8003-034185564a90 ip addr | 14:37 |
| ajo | seting the network namespace failed: Invalid argument | 14:37 |
| ajo | the del actually said: Cannot remove /var/run/netns/qdhcp-f742e733-672e-4e76-8003-034185564a90: Device or resource busy | 14:37 |
| ajo | this is the same problen you were finding which the iproute patch is supposed to fix, right? | 14:37 |
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| yamahata | ajo, yes you're right. | 15:16 |
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| zzelle | salv-orlando, ping | 16:02 |
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| humbolt | Can I have a 3 nodes openstack deployment with all nodes being compute nodes with networking based on neutron? | 16:13 |
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| zzelle | yes | 16:24 |
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| zzelle | but offen you avoid to mix compute note with neutron-dhcp/l3 node | 16:25 |
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| humbolt | zzelle: but would I have 3 neutron-dhcp/l3 nodes then? I just can not extrapolate from the docs, how such a setup would look like. | 16:27 |
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| humbolt | If you look at the headlines in the ubuntu 12.04 install docs, I just don't know, where to look for an answer exactly: "Install Networking services on a dedicated network node", "Install networking support on a dedicated compute node", "Install networking support on a dedicated controller node". | 16:29 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: ping | 16:29 |
| humbolt | In the end the real problem I am having is, to understand what a network node actually is! | 16:29 |
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| humbolt | Is it some kind of an l2/l3 router, or is it just a controller like the other controllers on the controller node? | 16:30 |
| humbolt | Does a compute node route(even l2) its traffic trough a central node or does it take care of its traffic itself?! | 16:30 |
| humbolt | There is no good explanation to be found in the docs | 16:31 |
| zzelle | humbolt | 16:34 |
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| zzelle | humbolt, no at least one neutron-dhcp service ... same for lL3 | 16:34 |
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| humbolt | zzelle: the whole openvswitch thing, where does it take place? | 16:36 |
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| zzelle | humbolt, one every node requiring "vm" network connectivy | 16:37 |
| zzelle | nova-compute, neutron-dhcp/L3 | 16:37 |
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| markmcclain | rkukura: pong | 16:38 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: Do you still consider https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ml2-deprecated-plugin-migration a high priority for icehouse? | 16:40 |
| markmcclain | yes! | 16:42 |
| markmcclain | we can can't remove the OVS or bridge plugins until we have a way to move folks off of them | 16:43 |
| rkukura | Good. I'm getting some questions about what this will look like, so plans can be made around handling the migration in puppet/packstack/foreman | 16:44 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: Do you know what Prakash's IRC name is? | 16:45 |
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| markmcclain | I don't know prakash | 16:46 |
| markmcclain | 's nic | 16:46 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: Lets mention this BP in today's meeting agenda, OK | 16:50 |
| markmcclain | good idea | 16:50 |
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| humbolt | On my nodes I use eth2 for non-neutron VLANs already. Can I use it for as the neutron/openvswitch data-interface as well? | 17:15 |
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| roaet | tellesnobrega: welcome | 17:59 |
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| tellesnobrega | roaet: thanks | 17:59 |
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| tellesnobrega | hi, im doing some studying in multi-tenancy in neutron, so i figured that there is a project isolation and that is controllable by the policy.json | 17:59 |
| tellesnobrega | but there isn't a domain isolation, since the concept of domain is not present in neutron | 17:59 |
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| tellesnobrega | my question real question is, is there an idea to bring domain concept into neutron? | 18:00 |
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| Guest57823 | shshang: ping | 18:21 |
| shshang | @Guest57823, echo reply | 18:21 |
| Guest57823 | hmmmm wtf | 18:22 |
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| shshang | sc68cal, is that you | 18:22 |
| sc68cal | yup | 18:22 |
| shshang | cool | 18:23 |
| sc68cal | there was a netsplit and something must have gone sideways, lost my nick | 18:23 |
| sc68cal | ok - so go to my review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52983/ | 18:23 |
| shshang | hey, thank you for the time in advance | 18:23 |
| shshang | yes, I am here | 18:23 |
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| sc68cal | OK so we're going to make a new branch | 18:24 |
| sc68cal | git fetch https://scollins@review.openstack.org/openstack/neutron refs/changes/83/52983/18 | 18:25 |
| sc68cal | err | 18:25 |
| sc68cal | that's not going to work for you | 18:25 |
| sc68cal | swap out scollins in that URL for your name in gerrit | 18:25 |
| shshang | I see. So I need to pull your code first, right? | 18:25 |
| shshang | in my github neutron directory? | 18:25 |
| shshang | or I need to create a new directory for your code? | 18:26 |
| sc68cal | no | 18:26 |
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| sc68cal | you need to fetch that ref from gerrit | 18:26 |
| sc68cal | do that command from your git repo for neutron on your computer | 18:27 |
| sc68cal | If you want, we can do a google hangout - so we can share screens and walk through it in more depth | 18:28 |
| shshang | shshang@net-ubuntu2:~/github/neutron$ git fetch https://sparkofwisdom.cloud@review.openstack.org/openstack/neutron refs/changes/83/52983/18 | 18:28 |
| shshang | remote: Counting objects: 42, done | 18:28 |
| shshang | remote: Finding sources: 100% (22/22) | 18:28 |
| shshang | remote: Total 22 (delta 4), reused 5 (delta 4) | 18:28 |
| shshang | Unpacking objects: 100% (22/22), done. | 18:28 |
| shshang | From https://review.openstack.org/openstack/neutron | 18:28 |
| shshang | * branch refs/changes/83/52983/18 -> FETCH_HEAD | 18:28 |
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| shshang | Done | 18:28 |
| sc68cal | perfect | 18:28 |
| sc68cal | ok now do this command | 18:28 |
| shshang | I think it fetched the ref | 18:28 |
| sc68cal | git checkout -b bp/ipv6-two-attributes FETCH_HEAD | 18:29 |
| sc68cal | so that'll create a new branch that matches the branch name in gerrit | 18:29 |
| shshang | hmmm....here is the problem: | 18:29 |
| shshang | shshang@net-ubuntu2:~/github/neutron$ git checkout -b bp/ipv6-two-attributes FETCH_HEAD | 18:29 |
| shshang | fatal: A branch named 'bp/ipv6-two-attributes' already exists. | 18:29 |
| sc68cal | interesting. | 18:30 |
| shshang | I need to delete mine from local repository first | 18:30 |
| sc68cal | well, are they the same though? | 18:30 |
| shshang | because I submitted my code last night with the same name | 18:30 |
| sc68cal | ok - then don't do that | 18:30 |
| sc68cal | otherwise we'll have to go digging through the reflog to find your commit | 18:30 |
| sc68cal | ok this might be a little wierd | 18:31 |
| sc68cal | make a temporary branch just so we can back up if something breaks | 18:31 |
| sc68cal | git checkout -b <temp branch name> | 18:31 |
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| sc68cal | if you're already on bp/ipv6-two-attributes | 18:32 |
| sc68cal | your local branch named that | 18:32 |
| sc68cal | basically I want you to rebase your commit that you submitted for review on top of FETCH_HEAD, which is my review | 18:32 |
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| shshang | OK, I switched to another branch. | 18:33 |
| shshang | shshang@net-ubuntu2:~/github/neutron$ git checkout -b bp/ipv6 | 18:33 |
| shshang | Switched to a new branch 'bp/ipv6' | 18:33 |
| shshang | how about this? I will revert back to the snapshot, which has no branch attached, and then I can fetch your review's reference? | 18:35 |
| shshang | that will make our lives easier | 18:36 |
| shshang | you still there? | 18:39 |
| sc68cal | sorry, had an issue with my machine | 18:40 |
| shshang | oh, that is ok | 18:40 |
| shshang | I can switch back to a snapshot with NO branch, and then download your review header | 18:41 |
| shshang | is that doable? | 18:41 |
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| sc68cal | yeah - as long as at the end, your commit is rebased on top of my commit from gerrit | 18:41 |
| shshang | OK, give me 2 mins to reboot the machine, | 18:41 |
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| shshang | OK, it looks OK so far. | 18:44 |
| shshang | shshang@net-ubuntu2:~/github/neutron$ git checkout -b bp/ipv6-two-attributes FETCH_HEAD | 18:44 |
| shshang | Switched to a new branch 'bp/ipv6-two-attributes' | 18:44 |
| mlavalle | markmcclain: can I do my update during the first half hour of today's irc meeting? I have another meeting at 2130 UTC | 18:45 |
| shshang | sc68cal, what is the next step? | 18:47 |
| sc68cal | ok, check out the branch that has your commit on it | 18:47 |
| sc68cal | then do git rebase bp/ipv6-two-attributes | 18:47 |
| sc68cal | fix the conflict you'll have in constants.py | 18:47 |
| sc68cal | and update the dhcp code to use the correct constants | 18:48 |
| sc68cal | then do git review | 18:48 |
| shshang | how to check out the branch that has my commit on it? It has duplicating name.... | 18:48 |
| sc68cal | how did you create bp/ipv6-two-attributes then? did you delete your local branch | 18:49 |
| shshang | yes | 18:49 |
| sc68cal | is bp/ipv6 branch have your commit on it? | 18:49 |
| shshang | I reverted back to the snapshot, which has nothing | 18:49 |
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| shshang | I rebuilt the git repository | 18:49 |
| sc68cal | alright | 18:50 |
| markmcclain | mlavalle: sure | 18:50 |
| sc68cal | go back to your review in gerrit | 18:50 |
| sc68cal | click the "cherry pick" link | 18:50 |
| markmcclain | I'll put you right after bugs to ensure you're done before 2130 | 18:50 |
| sc68cal | and cherry pick that commit into bp/ipv6-two-attributes | 18:50 |
| mlavalle | markmcclain: ;-) | 18:50 |
| shshang | When I click "cherry pick", it shows a link, which I can copy and paste, right? | 18:53 |
| sc68cal | yeah | 18:53 |
| shshang | how can I cherry pick that commit into yours? | 18:55 |
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| shshang | sc68cal? | 19:01 |
| sc68cal | howdy | 19:01 |
| sc68cal | cherry pick it, so that the branch now contains two commits | 19:01 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: ping | 19:01 |
| sc68cal | mine, then yours | 19:01 |
| shshang | ok, so I will copy and paste the url of my commit and paste it to your as second one. Is that correct? | 19:02 |
| sc68cal | yes | 19:03 |
| sc68cal | it should have that git cherry-pick command | 19:03 |
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| shshang | I don't see any place I can link mine to yours on web site..... | 19:05 |
| shshang | the "cherry pick" button on your commit only show "copy" | 19:05 |
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| sc68cal | yeah | 19:05 |
| sc68cal | so copy that command | 19:05 |
| sc68cal | then run it in your shell | 19:05 |
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| Guest78323 | ok something's going on with the nickserv | 19:06 |
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| shshang | shshang@net-ubuntu2:~/github/neutron$ git cherry-pick | 19:06 |
| shshang | usage: git cherry-pick [options] <commit-ish>... | 19:06 |
| shshang | or: git cherry-pick <subcommand> | 19:06 |
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| shshang | what's the subcommand? | 19:06 |
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| sc68cal_ | I gotta run for meetings - if you get stuck just let me know and I'll rebase and update the review on gerrit - but I'd only do it with your permission | 19:09 |
| sc68cal_ | you'd still get attribute as the author, but i'd be the committer | 19:09 |
| shshang | let me try first, and I will let you know if I run into issues | 19:09 |
| shshang | thanks for your help | 19:10 |
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| Guest51019 | salv-orlando, ping | 19:24 |
| salv-orlando | hi guest51019 | 19:24 |
| salv-orlando | am I talking to a droid? Or have the servers not yet recovered from the split before? | 19:24 |
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| zzelle__ | better now :) | 19:25 |
| zzelle__ | salv-orlando, did you get time to look at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Provider-network-partial-specs | 19:25 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle | 19:25 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: Yes I did | 19:25 |
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| zzelle__ | great :) | 19:25 |
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| salv-orlando | It seems legit to me that you want to specify only a subset of attributes. | 19:26 |
| salv-orlando | Did you see this as something that would apply to vlans only? Or to any possible network_type? | 19:26 |
| zzelle__ | salv-orlando, vlan for sure | 19:26 |
| zzelle__ | salv-orlando, other network types i don't know | 19:27 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: ok. sorry going afk for 5 minutes. | 19:27 |
| zzelle__ | the only usecase was perhaps for testing pupose | 19:27 |
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| humbolt | why do neutron/ovs bridges not show up, when I do brctl show?! | 19:30 |
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| enikanorov__ | pcm: pong | 19:31 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: I'm creating a database for the vendor VPN stuff. Have module w/definition, and migration file. I see table after stack.sh. When I run UT, w/o mock, it says "no such table". | 19:31 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: back. Do you see this as an admin-only use case, or do you have in mind also tenant use cases for it? | 19:31 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: Any ideas as to what I'm missing? | 19:31 |
| enikanorov__ | pcm: hard to say without seeing the code | 19:32 |
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| zzelle__ | salv-orlando, more as a admin-only usecase (mainly reduce constraints on provider-network attributes to provide) | 19:33 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: If you have a chance, here is the definition and function that accesses the table: http://paste.openstack.org/show/62396/ | 19:33 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: Let me know if I should paste the migration file too. | 19:34 |
| zzelle__ | i feel like tenant has not to choose | 19:34 |
| * pcm I'm woefully naive at setting up the SQLAlchemy stuff... | 19:34 | |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: good. So I have only two questions, at the moment. I agree with you on admin-only use case. If it were otherwise in my opinion it would have been a problem to tackle for ML2 multi-segment | 19:35 |
| salv-orlando | pcm: that's ok I'm woefully naive at pretty much everything :) | 19:35 |
| pcm | salv-orlando: :) | 19:35 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: In MySQL, I see the table under neutron_ml2 and the definition looks OK. | 19:36 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: OperationalError: (OperationalError) no such table: csr_identifier_map u'SELECT csr_identifier_map.ipsec_tunnel_id AS csr_identifier_map_ipsec_tunnel_id \nFROM csr_identifier_map' () | 19:36 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: If I paste that command into MySQL, it works. | 19:36 |
| zzelle__ | salv-orlando, ok for me | 19:37 |
| * pcm head scratching. | 19:37 | |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: 1st question. Do you think it's ok to reuse allocation pools meant for tenant networks. Or do provider need to have different pools, which might be, for instance, a set of vlans which might be mapped to some other application running outside of openstack? The question arises from the fact that provider networks were originally conceived to have neutron networks mapped to some other network define | 19:37 |
| salv-orlando | outside of openstack | 19:37 |
| enikanorov__ | pcm: i guess it is not getting created during UT loading... | 19:38 |
| enikanorov__ | that's the only reason i see | 19:38 |
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| zzelle__ | good question, i didn't imagine to use different pools for tenant networks and provider networks | 19:39 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: 2nd question. when only network type is specified, what would be the algorithm for picking the physical network? Is it ok to say that if one is not specified a random physical network should be picked | 19:39 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: on the 1st question, the fact is that the vlans in the tenant allocation pool might not make any sense for a provider network | 19:39 |
| zzelle__ | salv-orlando, i know but at first the aim was to provide a trade-off between tenant-networks and provider-networks (delegate part of decision to neutron) | 19:40 |
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| zzelle__ | but i will try in integrate this point in my proof of concept | 19:41 |
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| salv-orlando | zzelle__: I understand. My question is simply aimed at gaining a better understanding of whether the proposed solution is what we need to address your use cases. | 19:42 |
| zzelle__ | salv-orlando, at first the response would have been provider pools = tenant ones | 19:42 |
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| zzelle__ | but your remark make sense | 19:43 |
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| zzelle__ | if we have tenant pools / provider pools how do we handle possible overlapping ? | 19:44 |
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| salv-orlando | zzelle__: let me take one step back, so perhaps I will understand better. Provisioning for bare metal network has to happen with vlans, at least with the technologies currently available for openstack. Is that right? | 19:44 |
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| zzelle__ | salv-orlando, exactly it's the first case | 19:45 |
| zzelle__ | the 2nd one is if some physnet is required for some service networks | 19:45 |
| zzelle__ | typically for nfs, vlan + physnet=nfs is required | 19:46 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: the 2nd looks very similar to the original requirement for provider networks. Seems a legit extension to say that you can choose a vlan in range, even if I do not have any concrete example. | 19:46 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: so for the example you just mentioned you would just like to specify --network_type=nfs and that would type to a given vlan and physical network? | 19:47 |
| zzelle__ | if provider networks use tenant pools, the implementation is really simple : you need to provide type driver alternative to the current one | 19:47 |
| zzelle__ | salv-orlando, i was more thinking of network-type=vlan + physnet=nfs | 19:48 |
| zzelle__ | otherwise network-type seems not to the correct to specify it | 19:49 |
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| zzelle__ | currently network-type is for l2 techno, nfs is more a network-service ? | 19:50 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: mine was a negative question seeking for this kind of confirmation. So the VLAN would be implicit and you would spare the admin the hassle of specifying it. | 19:50 |
| zzelle__ | attributes are optional by "importance" | 19:51 |
| zzelle__ | physnet can be provided if network-type is provided | 19:51 |
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| zzelle__ | segmentation_id can be provided if physnet is provided (vlan case) or network-type is provided (tunnel cases) | 19:52 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: is the gate still stuck? I see the failure is recurring in checks as of yesterday. :( | 19:52 |
| salv-orlando | marun: all blocked now for neutron. There is a new bug: 1275267 | 19:52 |
| humbolt | I vote for neutron install guide (ubuntu 12.04) needs to be reworked seriously. It is not well structured. One can not get a clear picture of which services and settings are needed on which nodes. | 19:53 |
| humbolt | I am totally confused and can not connect to my nodes. | 19:53 |
| marun | salv-orlando: So has anyone tried using the metadata service instead? | 19:53 |
| enikanorov__ | it's not only gate | 19:53 |
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| enikanorov__ | psutil still in requirements.txt | 19:54 |
| enikanorov__ | and tox -epy27 seems not to work on fresh cloned repo | 19:54 |
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| salv-orlando | zzelle__: going back to the first use case, how would it differ from a case where the ML2 plugin has a vlan type mechanism? As bare metal does not use anything other, it seems legit to just provision networks without having to specify even the provider:network_type parameter. | 19:55 |
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| salv-orlando | Unless you want the provider to say: use this specific phy network, but any vlan in its range | 19:55 |
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| salv-orlando | marun: lifeless has a patch. Can't be used so far as it fails grenade | 19:56 |
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| lifeless | salv-orlando: marun: we would *love* someone figuring out why nova-compute quits 10m before the test finishes | 19:56 |
| zzelle__ | salv-orlando, that is the case, currently admins need to know provider-networks possible vlans and handle possible collisions (vlan already used), | 19:57 |
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| marun | lifeless: is that referenced in the bug? | 19:57 |
| marun | lifeless: I'm pretty sure everyone BUT the gate is using the metadata service with success. | 19:58 |
| salv-orlando | marun: bug 1275267 is for the guestfs issue plaguing the neutron gate (the nova jobs run config drive) | 19:58 |
| zzelle__ | salv-orlando, the feature aims at allowing to delegate part of the choice to neutron and reduce admin knowledge and mistakes | 19:58 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: I might argue that letting neutron decide is a recipe for making mistakes ;) | 19:58 |
| salv-orlando | just kidding | 19:58 |
| * marun suspects he's not actually kidding | 19:59 | |
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| salv-orlando | marun: nope I'm kidding this time. That's not code I worked on. | 19:59 |
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| salv-orlando | so I'm confident it works. | 19:59 |
| lifeless | marun: Icff1304fc816acc843f8962727aef8bbbc7bbaa3 | 19:59 |
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| zzelle__ | tenant networks are working so i feel safe :) | 20:00 |
| marun | salv-orlando: always with the self-deprecation. what does that say about everyone else given that you've been here as long as anyone? ;) | 20:00 |
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| salv-orlando | zzelle__: I now I think I understand completely your reasoning. At this stage I want just to back and look at docs/code to see whether for bare-metal provisioning we need to specify the network_type at all, or whether we can make it even simpler by not specifying anything and having neutron pick a vlan | 20:02 |
| salv-orlando | apart from that, I'm ok with defaulting one or more provider attributes. | 20:02 |
| zzelle__ | ok | 20:02 |
| zzelle__ | how do we interact, i assign you the blueprint approval ? | 20:03 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__: yes you can assign that to me. | 20:03 |
| salv-orlando | I'm the one supposed to look after api changes after all | 20:03 |
| zzelle__ | ok, thanks for your time | 20:03 |
| lifeless | salv-orlando: bare metal provisioning ? | 20:05 |
| humbolt | What I would long for are incremental installation instructions. Starting with the most simple setup - one shared flat network only - and then showing us, how to add stuff, like NAT to floating external IPs. Thereby one could first clearly understand the flow of traffic through this system, possibly get some instructions on how to debug the flow and then only move on to more complicated things, when the basics are understo | 20:05 |
| zzelle__ | lifeless, the aim is to simplify network provisioning for baremetal | 20:05 |
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| salv-orlando | lifeless: network provisioning for bare-metal servers | 20:05 |
| zzelle__ | but not only | 20:05 |
| salv-orlando | zzelle__ has a related blueprint | 20:05 |
| lifeless | salv-orlando: SDN / openflow for baremetal? I'm -super- interested in that | 20:06 |
| zzelle__ | lifeless, if you want to provide your feedback https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/provider-network-partial-specs | 20:06 |
| salv-orlando | We were discussing use cases. I need to go back to the drawing board to understand the bare metal use case | 20:06 |
| lifeless | i don't understand what provider networks have to do with baremetal provisioning | 20:07 |
| lifeless | we use regular neutron networks for that | 20:07 |
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| lifeless | yeah, that blueprint doesn't make any sense to me | 20:07 |
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| zzelle__ | why ? the aim is to delegate when possible the choice to neutron and reduce admin config knowledge (typically provider allowed vlans) | 20:11 |
| zzelle__ | lifeless, why ? the aim is to delegate when possible the choice to neutron and reduce admin config knowledge (typically provider allowed vlans) | 20:12 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: Could the issue be that the context that I create in the UT is wrong? | 20:20 |
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| enikanorov__ | i dunno, may be... how do you create it? | 20:21 |
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| pcm | enikanorov__: I used context.get_admin_context() | 20:22 |
| enikanorov__ | that should be fine | 20:22 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: and then used that in the call to create session transaction... | 20:22 |
| enikanorov__ | it works in other tests. can you access to some other table in your tests? is that problem with your table only? | 20:23 |
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| pcm | enikanorov__: good idea, I can try to access another table. | 20:23 |
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| salv-orlando | zzelle__: the point mentioned by lifeless (no need to use provider networks at all for enjoying vlan allocations from a pool) is the one I need to verify. If lifeless confirms that anyway, I think VLAN allocation already happens from a pool without either the admin or the tenant having to specify anything. | 20:27 |
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| zzelle__ | but you can not mixed vlan + tunnels in such case ? | 20:28 |
| lifeless | salv-orlando: zzelle__: So we're not doing switch configuration with baremetal yet; but certainly traffic tags in ovs are done in overlay networks automatically | 20:28 |
| zzelle__ | *mix | 20:28 |
| lifeless | to me provider networks are about gluing static configuration into the dynamic world of neutron | 20:28 |
| lifeless | using a provider network for dynamic configuration is at best confusing | 20:28 |
| zzelle__ | that's typically why i want to allow to delegate to neutron must of the choice: reduce admin knowledge, constraint the less neutron | 20:30 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: Got a table does not exist with another VPN table (that's empty, but created by the stack.sh run) | 20:32 |
| enikanorov__ | are you talking about UTs or running neutron in devstack? | 20:32 |
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| salv-orlando | zzelle__: I need to go afk for dinner now, but summarising the gist of the conversation is that I'd like to understand if your blueprint is a solution to a problem or a problem looking for a solution. I will go back at this tomorrow probably, but in the meanwhile I would appreciate more info about the use cases, if you can provide any, | 20:33 |
| pcm | I ran stack.sh to create the tables. Then, I'm running tox on a UT module I have. | 20:33 |
| salv-orlando | sorry I mean a solution to a problem or a solution looking for a problem | 20:33 |
| zzelle__ | no problem, good dinner :) | 20:33 |
| pcm | UT is for the service driver. | 20:34 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: Took the UT that existed for reference impl. and tweaked to test my functions. Added a context and then call a function that ends up calling a routine that accesses the table. | 20:36 |
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| enikanorov__ | UT uses in-memory sqlite backedn, it doesn't depend on migrations | 20:37 |
| wabmca_ | hi | 20:37 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: Ah. So how do I create the table, for use in UT (or do we typically just mock it out)? | 20:38 |
| enikanorov__ | no we don't, once you have table definition that inherits from BASEV2, it should be in the metadata and should be created in the db... | 20:38 |
| enikanorov__ | can you push the patch on gerrit so i could check it out? | 20:39 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: I could, although I'd rather not yet, because the code is not clean at all. Still have a lot of commented out and dead code in modules (as I pulled reference code and started changing). | 20:42 |
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| pcm | enikanorov__: Can I put it in paste.openstack.org? | 20:42 |
| enikanorov__ | not very convenient. i'd like to checkout it and run and see the problem myself | 20:42 |
| marun | salv-orlando: didn't you say that lifeless's patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70239) was breaking grenade? It looks like a transient unit test failure is the only problem in the recent check. | 20:42 |
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| marun | lifeless: are you going to fix the unit tests? | 20:44 |
| marun | lifeless: it looks like it would require explicitly setting the old configuration default for the failed tests | 20:45 |
| lifeless | marun: its more than that | 20:45 |
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| marun | lifeless: so there's a problem not represented by the check jobs? | 20:45 |
| lifeless | marun: see 43d950843769135d32ce316cfb0f72697a879623 in devstack | 20:45 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: For me to put in gerrit, I need to sync up with latest and then push it as WIP? | 20:46 |
| lifeless | marun: my change I73289195d3bb455f4076fadd2eadd6036b04b722 will passes tests and actually disables things | 20:46 |
| enikanorov__ | pcm i don't think so | 20:46 |
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| enikanorov__ | you can push whatever you can | 20:46 |
| pcm | enikanorov__: OK, I'll try... | 20:47 |
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| marun | lifeless: ah, so only your devstack change needs to merge to unfsck the neutron gate. | 20:54 |
| lifeless | marun: yes | 20:55 |
| lifeless | marun: and it didn't fail grenade or unittests | 20:56 |
| lifeless | marun: which is a Good Thing | 20:56 |
| marun | lifeless: indeed. As much as getting guestfs working eventually might be a good thing, I think using the metadata service and getting things moving should be the priority. | 20:57 |
| salv-orlando | oh yes definitely | 20:58 |
| salv-orlando | once this problem go away we still have bug 1253896 waiting for us; there are a few patches under review which should hopefully fix it | 20:58 |
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| pcm | Hi folks, from Neutron meeting, I wanted to start some discussions on L3 services, related to vendor plugins | 22:06 |
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| yamahata | pcm, hi | 22:06 |
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| hemanthravi | pcm: hi | 22:06 |
| pcm | I'll post on mailing list shortly. If you are interested, reply to me and I'll poll everyone for a good time/date to discuss. | 22:07 |
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| pcm | Hoping we can come up with some ideas that'll be good for vendor plugins and reference code for L3 services. | 22:07 |
| pcm | Areas like validation, providing client feedback, error handling/reporting, persistence, multiple device drivers, etc. | 22:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Rename Neutron core/service plugins for VMware NSX https://review.openstack.org/70858 | 22:13 |
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| pcm | General question on gerrit: I have code on a branch that I'd like to post as WIP. There are numerous commits on that branch, is it OK to push that to gerrit or do I need to collapse the commits? | 22:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Rename Neutron core/service plugins for VMware NSX https://review.openstack.org/70858 | 22:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ronak Shah proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Nuage Networks Plugin https://review.openstack.org/67272 | 22:25 |
| pcm | yamahata: hemanthravi: Sent an e-mail on the openstack-dev ML for L3 services discussion. | 22:27 |
| hemanthravi | pcm: ok will respond to that | 22:28 |
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| pcm | hemanthravi: thanks! | 22:28 |
| pcm | salv-orlando: ping | 22:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Enables BigSwitch/Restproxy ML2 VLAN driver https://review.openstack.org/64944 | 23:19 |
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