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| mili | Hi Neutron experts, I really need your help on this please have a look https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/11904/associate-public-ip-to-vms-interface/ | 01:46 |
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| slawek | hello everyone | 09:33 |
| slawek | I'm trying to use neutron with ML2 plugin and network with L3-agent. I'm wondering what methods from plugin are working when I'm trying to associate new floating IP to vm (and router). Maybe someone of You will know and can tell me that :) | 09:34 |
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| matrohon | slawek : L3/router method are now implemented as service plugin | 10:02 |
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| slawek | matrohon: ok, so all code which made such things like set iptables rules (and other needed when I associate floating IP to instance) is in neutron/services/l3_router folder? | 10:16 |
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| slawek | I need to find code which is making this operations (is calling "execute" method from neutron.agent.linux.utils) because I want to change something on that code (add some operations for example). Do You know where (or how) I can find exactly this code? :) | 10:18 |
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| matrohon | slawek : not exactly, sorry you will have to dig inside the code :) but it's not managed by ML2 plugin | 10:40 |
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| leseb | hi all | 10:44 |
| leseb | can I use ipv6 addresses with my floating ips? | 10:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Édouard Thuleau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Update help message of flag 'enable_isolated_metadata' https://review.openstack.org/67077 | 11:00 |
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| EmilienM | leseb: I think you fit with this use case: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ipv6-provider-nets-slaac | 11:08 |
| EmilienM | I don't see code, i'm not sure about the status | 11:08 |
| EmilienM | leseb: maybe you could find good information here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-IPv6-Subteam | 11:09 |
| leseb | EmilienM: ok so it's not possible with Havana... thanks :) | 11:10 |
| EmilienM | leseb: either icehouse i think | 11:11 |
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| ihrachys | markmcclain: ping... [new client release] | 11:32 |
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| slawek | do do maybe know about possibility to make external network like with L3-agent but that the traffic is not routed via neutron server (with L3-agent) - I don know, for example Public IP is announced from compute host with BGP or something like that? | 11:43 |
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| djoreilly | slawek: maybe the provider extension. Basically bridges VMs onto physical vlans. | 12:07 |
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| zzelle | markmcclain, hi | 13:16 |
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| matrohon | slawek : this is something that well be needed for MPLS VPN integration | 13:35 |
| matrohon | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-bgp-mpls-vpn | 13:35 |
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| enikanorov | markmcclain: hi | 18:06 |
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| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: got 15-20 mins for lbaas? | 18:07 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov: sure | 18:08 |
| enikanorov_ | cool! | 18:08 |
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| enikanorov_ | so... i'd like to start with stating that we already have this notion of lb instance | 18:09 |
| enikanorov_ | which is a pool right now | 18:09 |
| enikanorov_ | so we bind any non-lbaas specific (like drivers/providers, agents, etc) to a pool | 18:10 |
| enikanorov_ | main motivation to move to separate entity is introduction of multiple pools per logical configuration | 18:10 |
| enikanorov | so that would allow us to preserve tree-like configuration | 18:11 |
| markmcclain | I'm still unsure why we need a resource to hold multiple pools | 18:11 |
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| markmcclain | the relationship is really VIP <-> Pools | 18:12 |
| enikanorov | it's true | 18:12 |
| enikanorov | the thing is the the pool is our container (instance) right now | 18:12 |
| enikanorov | that's one point | 18:13 |
| enikanorov | another one is that we are planning to have multiple vips per pool as well | 18:13 |
| enikanorov | also i've studied other APIs like libra/atlas and aws | 18:14 |
| enikanorov | seems that they doesn't support l7/multiple vips | 18:14 |
| enikanorov | so their instance is the pool and it can have multiple vips (or 'listeners') | 18:14 |
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| enikanorov | no prob | 18:15 |
| enikanorov | meanwhile i'll give you an example | 18:15 |
| enikanorov | consider existing workflow (haproxy implementation) | 18:15 |
| enikanorov | user creates pool, and it gets scheduled to an agent | 18:16 |
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| enikanorov | to create another pool (to attach it to a vip via l7 rules) we would need to not to schedule the pool being created | 18:16 |
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| enikanorov | so this is inconsistent with what we have right now | 18:17 |
| enikanorov | this particular problem could be solved by making a vip this container/instance | 18:17 |
| enikanorov | but that not only breaks existing workflow but also is backward incompatible change | 18:18 |
| enikanorov | and it doesn't address the problem when we have multiple vips per pool | 18:18 |
| enikanorov | i remember you suggested having a pool and services | 18:18 |
| enikanorov | which are ip+port | 18:18 |
| enikanorov | but in fact that is making 'Vip' effectively an instance i'm introducing | 18:19 |
| enikanorov | so that 'service' entity whould need to have all attributes of the vip, session persistence, ip, tcp port, ssl attributes | 18:21 |
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| enikanorov | and the vip itself will only have port_id maybe (from what it has right now) | 18:21 |
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| enikanorov | i think having vip as it is right now is a little bit more flexible because we may let driver do the wiring | 18:23 |
| enikanorov | for example two vips can reuse same neutron port | 18:23 |
| enikanorov | or the vip may have 2 neutron ports (driver-specific wiring) | 18:23 |
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| enikanorov_ | do do you think it makes sense? | 18:27 |
| enikanorov_ | *so | 18:27 |
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| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: please ping me once you're back from the call | 18:39 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov_: sorry back | 18:48 |
| zzelle | markmcclain, hi | 18:50 |
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| markmcclain | zzelle: hi | 18:50 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: i'm here | 18:50 |
| zzelle | markmcclain, it's about the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71904 and its associated BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/provider-network-partial-specs | 18:51 |
| zzelle | it has been accepted during last ML2 meeting | 18:51 |
| zzelle | you are the one which updates launchpad BP status ? | 18:52 |
| markmcclain | zzelle: I am… I'll work on making sure we can fit this into I-3 | 18:53 |
| zzelle | I-3 deadline is 18/02 ? | 18:53 |
| markmcclain | zzelle: code proposal deadline is 18/02 | 18:55 |
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| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: should be continue? | 18:55 |
| markmcclain | which has been met since the first submission has already occurred | 18:55 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_: yes | 18:55 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_: so my concern is that the api is reflecting too much of the underlying implementation | 18:56 |
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| markmcclain | and not of the functions that user is trying to create | 18:56 |
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| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: markmcclain: which API part (particular resource maybe?) you think reflects much of the underlying impl? | 18:56 |
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| markmcclain | right now we've got VIPs and Pools | 18:57 |
| enikanorov_ | yep | 18:57 |
| markmcclain | and the relationships between them | 18:57 |
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| markmcclain | from a user perspective that is mostly free of underlying implementation | 18:57 |
| enikanorov_ | agree | 18:57 |
| markmcclain | (I am ignoring the service_provider part as the developing plan for flavors further decouples) | 18:58 |
| enikanorov_ | ok | 18:58 |
| markmcclain | so what we're looking for is a way to express how vips and pools are related to each other | 18:59 |
| enikanorov_ | i think this particular aspect is addressed by l7 rules and multiple-vips-per-pool proposal | 19:00 |
| enikanorov_ | so this part is simple | 19:00 |
| markmcclain | but don't those require we add the loadbalancer resource? | 19:00 |
| enikanorov_ | i think lb instance is required to make corresponding workflows more clear, and also it would greatly simplify the code around that | 19:01 |
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| markmcclain | workflows for who? | 19:01 |
| enikanorov_ | because even if we isolate the user completely, we still have to deal with implementation details | 19:01 |
| enikanorov_ | for the user | 19:01 |
| markmcclain | I'm not sure the API for the user is eaiser | 19:02 |
| enikanorov_ | based on my discussion on the summit | 19:02 |
| markmcclain | which discussion the one from design session or coffee? | 19:02 |
| enikanorov_ | i found that it would be useful to let users to think of their whole logical conf | 19:02 |
| enikanorov_ | not just vips and pools | 19:03 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: mostly after the tech deep dive on lbaas | 19:03 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I never got the sense that there was a good consensus after that session | 19:03 |
| enikanorov_ | also folks which represent vendors also found this idea quite fitting how they think about logical configuration | 19:04 |
| markmcclain | because the logical config view was too centric on the underlying hardware implementation | 19:04 |
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| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: not really! | 19:04 |
| enikanorov_ | it doesn't consider backend impl | 19:05 |
| enikanorov_ | it works perfectly for process on host, which is current haproxy provider | 19:05 |
| enikanorov_ | and also would help to adopt appliances and virt appliances | 19:05 |
| markmcclain | while it works for making implementations easier the api is kind of confusing and not very cloudy | 19:06 |
| markmcclain | because it requires that the user consider how vips and pools are grouped into logical boxes | 19:07 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: what is confusing you about 'loadbalancer' resource? | 19:07 |
| markmcclain | instead of functions | 19:07 |
| enikanorov_ | (the part being added) | 19:07 |
| enikanorov_ | well, if you use l7 rules, you need to know that, no? | 19:07 |
| enikanorov_ | you need to know that l7 pools are bound to the same vip, which implies that they belong to the one backend | 19:08 |
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| enikanorov_ | the same for multiple vips per pool | 19:08 |
| enikanorov_ | so better to say 'logical instance' instead of backend | 19:09 |
| markmcclain | well maybe… there's nothing that dictates that vips that share the same poolset be colocated on the same applicance | 19:09 |
| enikanorov_ | but currently it's 1:1 mapping anyway (HA may add 1:m) | 19:09 |
| markmcclain | from an implementation standpoint is ideal that they are on the same appliance (virtual or real) | 19:10 |
| enikanorov_ | yes | 19:10 |
| enikanorov_ | and nothing dictates they should be, but i can hardly see a use case for that | 19:10 |
| enikanorov_ | because if two vips share the pool | 19:10 |
| enikanorov_ | they mostly share more or less lightweight object which is effectively a list of members | 19:11 |
| markmcclain | but from the API perspective we shouldn't require that the use thinks of such things | 19:11 |
| markmcclain | s/use/user/ | 19:11 |
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| enikanorov_ | i think we can consider that, but so far i see that implementation limitation makes sense | 19:12 |
| enikanorov_ | my concern is that not everything we may want to allow fits into haproxy-on-host solution | 19:13 |
| enikanorov_ | so if we get rid of some API limitations like the one you mentioned, we may introduce some implied limitation\ | 19:13 |
| markmcclain | HA proxy may not fit everything we're trying to do | 19:13 |
| enikanorov_ | when something just gives an exception | 19:14 |
| markmcclain | but from a core API perspective we have to have implementations that are back by it or another open soltion | 19:14 |
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| markmcclain | core the API if there is not open implementation we cannot test the API for gating | 19:14 |
| enikanorov_ | exactly | 19:15 |
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| enikanorov_ | that's why haproxy impl is the source of requirements for the API | 19:15 |
| markmcclain | it seems we're getting stuck on trying to offer every feature right away | 19:15 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: i don't think we're trying to offer everything | 19:16 |
| markmcclain | instead of incrementally adding features to the API | 19:16 |
| enikanorov_ | in fact the instance being proposed provides the simple basis for more advanced features | 19:16 |
| enikanorov_ | and yet it preserves existing simplistic workflows | 19:16 |
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| enikanorov_ | so right now user may even never know it has something other than pool and a vip | 19:17 |
| enikanorov_ | and only go to 'instance' if they need l7 or multiple vips | 19:17 |
| markmcclain | except I'm still not seeing the value that a loadbalancer resource provides | 19:17 |
| markmcclain | just seems to add overhead | 19:17 |
| enikanorov_ | overhead for who? | 19:18 |
| markmcclain | the user | 19:18 |
| markmcclain | it's another uuid to manage | 19:18 |
| enikanorov_ | ok, so right now it's not necessary | 19:19 |
| enikanorov_ | (with 1:1 vip:pool) | 19:19 |
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| enikanorov_ | when we'll move to l7 | 19:19 |
| enikanorov_ | how do we group another pool to the already created pools? | 19:19 |
| enikanorov_ | (thats the part where additinal uuid is used in my proposal) | 19:20 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov_: we need something that expresses the relationship between the vip and pool | 19:23 |
| markmcclain | not necessarily a master object | 19:23 |
| enikanorov_ | it's VipPoolAssociation | 19:23 |
| enikanorov_ | or (L7VipPoolAssociation per exiting patchset) | 19:24 |
| enikanorov_ | but right now when we create the pool it is already a master object | 19:24 |
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| enikanorov_ | it has it's provider, it's scheduled to an agent, etc | 19:25 |
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| enikanorov_ | and what we are trying to do is we attaching it to the vip (by l7 rules) and making it a dependet object of existing configuration | 19:27 |
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| enikanorov_ | there is no way we can express that through the api right now | 19:27 |
| markmcclain | the L7 stuff doesn't use the loadbalancer resource | 19:28 |
| enikanorov_ | that's correct | 19:28 |
| enikanorov_ | but | 19:28 |
| enikanorov_ | it assumes that the pool you're adding to the vip is on the same logical isntance | 19:29 |
| enikanorov_ | because however you may think of it - it's going to be deployed on the same physical instance | 19:29 |
| enikanorov_ | ah, btw, L7 stuff is centered about grouping existing vips and pools | 19:30 |
| enikanorov_ | so loadbalancer resource is needed earlier - when creating vips/pools | 19:31 |
| markmcclain | right.. the l7 work does not break the bidirectional link between vip and pool | 19:31 |
| markmcclain | based on the proposed L7 work, I'm still failing to see the need for a load balancer resource | 19:32 |
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| enikanorov_ | L7 work itself doesn't need lb resource | 19:32 |
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| enikanorov_ | but it also doesn't provide a way of having pool correctly placed | 19:32 |
| enikanorov_ | (deployed) | 19:32 |
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| markmcclain | the responsibility for correctly deploying a pool is the backend | 19:33 |
| markmcclain | not the API | 19:33 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: not exactly, giving you an example | 19:33 |
| enikanorov_ | you create a pool | 19:33 |
| enikanorov_ | and it's scheduled to some... device, or agent or router | 19:34 |
| enikanorov_ | you try to add it to a vip | 19:34 |
| enikanorov_ | and you can't because the vip is on another config which is deployed to some other entities (of listed) | 19:34 |
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| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: btw to try to talk about all this other way around, may be you can propose your solution and I'll ask about the concerns I have? that could help us understand each other better | 19:36 |
| markmcclain | my solution has been to keep the logical resources of vip and pool | 19:37 |
| markmcclain | right now that relationship is bidirectional, but that's obviously not ideal going forward | 19:38 |
| enikanorov_ | yep | 19:38 |
| enikanorov_ | we address it by l7 (in one way) | 19:38 |
| markmcclain | because some has to associate the vip to the pool | 19:38 |
| enikanorov_ | and by getting rid of vip_id from the pool | 19:38 |
| enikanorov_ | (multiple vips per pool) | 19:38 |
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| markmcclain | correct | 19:39 |
| enikanorov_ | so immediate problem is how to deploy the new pool to already existing backend | 19:40 |
| enikanorov_ | i mean you've created one , and you add another pool to existing vip via l7 rules | 19:40 |
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| markmcclain | right scheduling should take into account the vip right? | 19:42 |
| enikanorov_ | we even don't get to the vip yet. to be able to add the pool, tyou need to create it first | 19:43 |
| enikanorov_ | so first of all when you create it, you provide provider/flavor | 19:43 |
| enikanorov_ | and using that it is scheduled | 19:43 |
| markmcclain | what if that work flow is wrong | 19:44 |
| enikanorov_ | yes, it's possible :) | 19:44 |
| markmcclain | if you attach flavor to VIP that changes lots of things does it not? | 19:44 |
| enikanorov_ | well, it changes the workflow a little bit | 19:45 |
| enikanorov_ | so that is another your suggestion, right? | 19:45 |
| enikanorov_ | we add flavor/rpvider to the vip, not pool | 19:45 |
| enikanorov_ | do i understand you correctly? | 19:45 |
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| markmcclain | it is something to explore | 19:46 |
| markmcclain | retaining flavor on the pool might be constraining | 19:46 |
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| enikanorov_ | i thought about it, in fact | 19:46 |
| enikanorov_ | and this way leads to the same instance proposal, actualy | 19:46 |
| enikanorov_ | let me explain | 19:46 |
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| enikanorov_ | we may be vip-centric, instead of pool-centric | 19:47 |
| enikanorov_ | that breaks existing API /workflow, but let's just imagine | 19:47 |
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| enikanorov_ | that will address the problem of collocating pools (needed by L7) | 19:47 |
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| enikanorov_ | and then we need multiple vips per pool | 19:48 |
| enikanorov_ | we can solve it by introducing 'listener' notion | 19:48 |
| enikanorov_ | so VIp can have many of those | 19:48 |
| enikanorov_ | and... | 19:48 |
| markmcclain | expand on listener | 19:48 |
| enikanorov_ | listener is ip addr+ tcp port + ssl attrs + pool_id | 19:49 |
| enikanorov_ | (+neutron port may be) | 19:49 |
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| enikanorov_ | so funny thing is that this whole model will make VIP exactly the same as loadbalancer in my proposal | 19:49 |
| enikanorov_ | only possible benefit is that it is still 'vip' resource | 19:50 |
| enikanorov_ | but former vip will move to a 'listener' | 19:50 |
| enikanorov_ | (additional resource) | 19:51 |
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| markmcclain | so the listener would associate the VIP to the pool | 19:51 |
| markmcclain | how would L7 work in that instance | 19:51 |
| enikanorov_ | so listener would have something like [(L7policy, pool_id)] | 19:52 |
| enikanorov_ | +pool_id of the default pool | 19:52 |
| kevinbenton | markmcclain: what is the deadline for patches to icehouse? | 19:52 |
| markmcclain | kevinbenton: patches must be proposed by end of day Feb 18th | 19:53 |
| kevinbenton | thanks | 19:53 |
| markmcclain | and then we'll enter the bug phase which goes on for another 6 wks | 19:54 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_: this might make things more workable, but it will need more details specified in a wiki | 19:55 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: would you agree it is similar to the loadbalancer proposal? | 19:55 |
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| markmcclain | it is and it isn't | 19:56 |
| markmcclain | the details are always the differentiator | 19:56 |
| enikanorov_ | ok. let's do the following | 19:56 |
| enikanorov_ | i'll draw the diagrams of both approaches | 19:57 |
| enikanorov_ | and will put it on the wiki | 19:57 |
| enikanorov_ | with a brief description | 19:57 |
| markmcclain | ok.. will help to frame the discussion a bit | 19:57 |
| enikanorov_ | and we'll discuss it on monday. I'm still hoping to get this merged in I, because the code is basically ready and works | 19:58 |
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| enikanorov_ | and also tested by followup patches (adoption for haproxy) | 19:58 |
| sbalukoff | Monday is a holiday in the USA-- maybe Tuesday? | 19:59 |
| markmcclain | sbalukoff: not everyone has Monday off | 19:59 |
| enikanorov_ | sbalukoff: tuesday is code proposal deadline... the sooner the better | 19:59 |
| enikanorov_ | i'm free to discuss it tomorrow or on sunday :) | 19:59 |
| sbalukoff | Got it. | 19:59 |
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| enikanorov_ | but i don't want to spoil weekend to anyone :) | 19:59 |
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| enikanorov_ | ok, we decided on the plan. | 20:00 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_: unsure how alternate design can already have code written | 20:00 |
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| markmcclain | I wouldn't call it a plan as much as something else to consider to build a consensus | 20:01 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: honestly i'm hoping to persue you to go with what i've already proposed :) | 20:01 |
| enikanorov_ | because this alternate design is mostly renaming of entities | 20:02 |
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| enikanorov_ | but that would cause incompatible change of course | 20:02 |
| markmcclain | if we're just relabeling things then that does really change the equation | 20:03 |
| markmcclain | s/does/does not/ | 20:03 |
| enikanorov_ | yep, it doesn't | 20:03 |
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| enikanorov_ | so the missing part of the eq will be those differences that you're thinking about | 20:04 |
| enikanorov_ | i think it would be easier to list them when we'll have diagrams to look at | 20:04 |
| markmcclain | pictures always help | 20:04 |
| enikanorov_ | ok, really appreciate your time, Mark. i think we'll be able to make a progress on this. | 20:05 |
| markmcclain | happy we found some common time to discuss this | 20:06 |
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