| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack/neutron: NSX: remove last of unneed quantum references https://review.openstack.org/80388 | 00:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Skip radware failing test for now https://review.openstack.org/80426 | 00:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack/neutron: NSX: Fix router-interface-delete returns 404 when router not in nsx https://review.openstack.org/80177 | 00:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Skip radware failing test for now https://review.openstack.org/80426 | 00:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Notify nova when ports are ready https://review.openstack.org/75253 | 00:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Send network-changed notifications to nova https://review.openstack.org/78041 | 00:20 |
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| markmcclain | because it is a new feature which was not merged by Icehouse-3 | 00:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bob Melander proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implements Neutron routing API using Cisco appliances https://review.openstack.org/74194 | 15:28 |
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| matrohon | markmcclain : hi | 15:36 |
| markmcclain | matrohon: hi | 15:37 |
| matrohon | markmcclain : I just wanted to know exactly what you meant when you said there is no test outside unit test during this review : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49227/ | 15:38 |
| matrohon | markmcclain : do you mean integration test with tempest? | 15:39 |
| markmcclain | matrohon: the l2-pop driver is not tested via a 3rd party system or in the gate | 15:39 |
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| markmcclain | so we have no data whether this works outside of developer testing | 15:40 |
| markmcclain | when Juno opens | 15:40 |
| markmcclain | I was thinking that l2pop should be one of the configurations we test in the check queue for neutron | 15:40 |
| matrohon | markmcclain : yes and we are working on it. But infra reject our evolution of devstack to have multi-node with lxc : | 15:41 |
| matrohon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76861/ | 15:41 |
| markmcclain | matrohon: can we enable it in a single vm devstack test | 15:41 |
| markmcclain | and get some functional coverage? | 15:42 |
| matrohon | markmcclain : yes, that was our goal | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack/neutron: NSX: remove last of unneed quantum references https://review.openstack.org/80388 | 15:42 |
| markmcclain | I'd feel a lot better merging having a test that runs this in a single vm | 15:43 |
| markmcclain | I know the multi-node is best, but that will take time | 15:43 |
| matrohon | markmcclain : agree, and infra team is not clear about the good path to implement multi-node (node-pool evolution, tripleO, Heat..) | 15:44 |
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| matrohon | the LXC config works in our lab, that the reason why we proposed it to infra guy | 15:45 |
| markmcclain | yeah | 15:46 |
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| matrohon | but to them, and I understand there point, there are non-starter issue, du to iscsi module and ovs modules which are incompatible with a lxc config | 15:47 |
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| matrohon | to me it would wonderful to have just a check job for neutron which launch a devstack with lxc computes, inside the devstack VM | 15:49 |
| matrohon | that the reason why we proposed the devstack patch | 15:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fixes the Hyper-V agent individual ports metrics https://review.openstack.org/78795 | 15:58 |
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| matrohon | markmcclain : l2-pop can't work with single VM, since we need tunneling | 16:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Adds state reporting to SDN-VE agent https://review.openstack.org/78839 | 16:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Introduce bulk calls for get device details https://review.openstack.org/66899 | 17:02 |
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| Guest58201 | salut | 17:08 |
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| Guest58201 | j'ai un problème avec neutron | 17:08 |
| Guest58201 | voilà le pastebin avec ma conf et quelques tests | 17:09 |
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| Guest58201 | http://pastebin.com/tpRcNfX5 | 17:09 |
| Guest58201 | et la topologie en place http://lut.im/htIQBnlE/loBTQJjh | 17:09 |
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| markmcclain | Guest58201: br-ex is not connected to anything | 17:22 |
| Guest58201 | markmcclain: i have to connect br-ex ? | 17:27 |
| Guest58201 | markmcclain: fr ? | 17:27 |
| Guest58201 | :x | 17:27 |
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| markmcclain | Guest58201: I can read basic french :) | 17:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fixes the Hyper-V agent individual ports metrics https://review.openstack.org/78795 | 17:31 |
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| markmcclain | Guest58201: yes have to add an interface to the br-ex switch otherwise traffic won't flow | 17:34 |
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| Guest58201 | which interface ? | 17:36 |
| Guest58201 | like i want ?! | 17:36 |
| Guest58201 | my data/vm network is 192.168.10.0/24 on eth2 | 17:36 |
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| Guest58201 | markmcclain: on eth2 its ok ? | 17:46 |
| markmcclain | you'll then want to change the external network range on your setup so that the gateway on the router is on the 192.168.10/0 net | 17:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-neutronclient: Empty file shouldn't contain copyright nor license https://review.openstack.org/71714 | 17:48 |
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| Guest58201 | markmcclain: ok then on the topology, the blue network ext_net, i need to change the range to 192.168.0.10 (my network on eth2) | 18:05 |
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| Guest58201 | and plug in (?) the br-ex on eth2 ? | 18:06 |
| Guest58201 | sorry for my english :| | 18:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Justin Hammond proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Adds support for os-auth-strategy=noauth https://review.openstack.org/57517 | 18:14 |
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| salv-orlando | aloha folks. I am pondering the efficiency of the two patches we've attempted to revert re: bug 1283522 | 18:16 |
| salv-orlando | aka "the lock wait timeout thing" | 18:16 |
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| salv-orlando | revert #1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80354/ showed 5 lock wait timeout episodes (none of them caused a nova timeout) | 18:17 |
| salv-orlando | all these 5 events are of the same nature of the lock wait timeout issues affecting the gate | 18:18 |
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| salv-orlando | the 5 events are actually only 3 error instances (in some cases both deadlocked transactions time out) | 18:20 |
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| salv-orlando | revert #2: revert #2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80356/ showed 2 lock wait timeouts | 18:20 |
| salv-orlando | however, the nature here is different from the one observed on the gate, which always involve a delete_port call | 18:20 |
| salv-orlando | also, the 2 events represent only a single error instance | 18:21 |
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| salv-orlando | so far it seems that revert #2 might be more efficient than revert #1 (which perhaps has no benefit at all) | 18:21 |
| salv-orlando | but since the patch we're reverting did not do anything wrong, I'd conclude that the only issue with this patch is that it made an existing problem worse | 18:22 |
| salv-orlando | so I would invite you at looking at a potential simple solution, discussed with dansmith and comstud: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80413 | 18:23 |
| salv-orlando | and weigh on the comments other reviewers already left on the patch | 18:23 |
| salv-orlando | I'm not sure if anybody is reading here, perhaps I should send a message to the ml? | 18:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Fix in admin_state_up check function https://review.openstack.org/79822 | 18:28 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-neutronclient: Use six.moves.urllib.parse to replace urlparse https://review.openstack.org/73509 | 18:28 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: is there not still risk there? | 18:28 |
| kevinbenton | delete_network will cleanup ports | 18:29 |
| kevinbenton | or delete_subnet | 18:29 |
| kevinbenton | rather | 18:29 |
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| kevinbenton | https://github.com/bigswitch/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_v2.py#L1217 | 18:30 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: ^^ | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-neutronclient: Enable to select specific network service type https://review.openstack.org/54534 | 18:31 |
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| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: you also need to add to the list delete_floatingip and delete_vip | 18:36 |
| salv-orlando | probably there will be more. | 18:36 |
| salv-orlando | they all call delete_port, and then the lock will kick in. Now the problem might occur if they do so from within a transaction. | 18:37 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: yeah, I'm trying to resolve the same issues in the big switch plugin where the problem is amplified by the rest call in the transaction which causes eventlet to yield | 18:37 |
| salv-orlando | I'm keeping the patch spinning through checks | 18:37 |
| kevinbenton | delete_subnet doesn't call delete_port through, right? | 18:38 |
| salv-orlando | but if anybody has a better idea, feel free to down vote it. I am not yet proposing it as a solution. Just a test so far. | 18:38 |
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| salv-orlando | a few numbers from the past 24 hours… gate job failures 702. success 9,455 (failure ratio 6.9%) | 18:57 |
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| salv-orlando | neutron failures: | 18:58 |
| salv-orlando | gate-tempest-dsvm-neutro-large-ops 4.69% (33) | 18:58 |
| salv-orlando | gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron 26 (3.69%) | 18:59 |
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| salv-orlando | unit test failures: 4.12% (29) | 18:59 |
| salv-orlando | overall neutron failures in the gate: 12.5% | 19:00 |
| salv-orlando | overall failure ratio due to neutron: 0.87% | 19:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed a change to openstack/neutron: LBaaS: Fix discrepancy between status and admin_state_up https://review.openstack.org/55032 | 19:17 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando: Im guessing the gate failures are before we added the skip to bad unit test | 19:18 |
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| kevinbenton | why is this locked in update mode? https://github.com/bigswitch/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_v2.py#L1361 | 19:21 |
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| kevinbenton | it could be made safer from the evetlet/mysql deadlocks if it didn't lock in update and ignored port doesn't exist exceptions | 19:24 |
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| markmcclain | kevinbenton: interesting | 19:28 |
| markmcclain | armax: ^^ | 19:28 |
| kevinbenton | markmcclain: worth posting a patch to start a discussion? | 19:28 |
| markmcclain | armax : ^^^ | 19:28 |
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| markmcclain | I think so | 19:29 |
| markmcclain | so delete ports is only called via rpc call from dhcp agent | 19:29 |
| markmcclain | so we can look at fixing that interaction | 19:29 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 19:30 |
| markmcclain | armax worked on that code last fall so he might have ideas too | 19:30 |
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| blogan | what is the proper way to do a code change that changes few lines in a file but across many files? through one single commit or through many commits? | 20:43 |
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| damnsmith | bearhands: marun has a question about things you know about | 20:49 |
| bearhands | ok | 20:49 |
| damnsmith | bearhands: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22276/ | 20:49 |
| bearhands | yeah | 20:50 |
| bearhands | that has changed slightly since then | 20:50 |
| marun | so, i'm not sure I understand why a deadlock is something that shouldn't be fixed in the code rather than retried | 20:50 |
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| bearhands | ideally it should be fixed | 20:51 |
| bearhands | but that's easier said than done | 20:51 |
| marun | why, what's the fix? | 20:51 |
| bearhands | not doing a SELECT and then an UPDATE | 20:52 |
| marun | the original nova bug refers to performing insert and update in the same transaction | 20:52 |
| marun | the targeted neutron bug would appear to be a different story | 20:52 |
| bearhands | that may be another case | 20:52 |
| marun | i.e. deleting lots of ports | 20:52 |
| bearhands | but SELECT and UPDATE can also do it | 20:52 |
| marun | i don't get how select and update have anything to do with port deletion | 20:52 |
| bearhands | i'm not relating it to port deletion | 20:52 |
| marun | i'm seriously considering -2'ing the patch because the fix doesn't match the bug | 20:52 |
| markmcclain | blogan: depends on what you're changing | 20:53 |
| bearhands | i'm just stating another condition that can cause it | 20:53 |
| bearhands | (deadlock) | 20:53 |
| bearhands | (or a lock wait timeout) | 20:53 |
| marun | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78643/ | 20:53 |
| marun | ^ neutron patch in question | 20:53 |
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| bearhands | _delete_port seems to do a select and then an update | 20:54 |
| marun | bearhands: I'm worried that the neutron patch in question is trying to solve a deadlock bug that doesn't appear to be related to the nova bug whose patches are being cherrypicked. Do you think my concerns are misplaced? | 20:54 |
| blogan | markmclain: its enabling the H302 rule (only import modules), i was originally going to do it one bug report at a time, but someone suggested to do it all at once, or do large portions at once | 20:54 |
| bearhands | marun: sec, brb | 20:55 |
| marun | bearhands: hmmm, I guess I need to look deeper. Requiring that for deletion isn't clicking for me. | 20:55 |
| damnsmith | marun: there's a LOG inside the transaction | 20:56 |
| blogan | markmcclain: thought i'd do something that was easy to learn the whole process but since doing it for all of neutron will end up being a large change im not sure what the best way to do it is | 20:56 |
| marun | damnsmith: we're doing cascading deletion in code :( | 20:56 |
| bearhands | marun: in general, I don't think your concern is misplaced | 20:56 |
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| bearhands | marun: if the deadlock can be avoided, obviously you should try to fix that. But it does appear that neutron is doing similar things that nova is doing... | 20:57 |
| marun | i.e. doing stupid things | 20:57 |
| bearhands | marun: which required us to add the decorator (for now, at least) | 20:57 |
| marun | *sigh* | 20:57 |
| marun | ok | 20:57 |
| bearhands | well, possibly. :) | 20:57 |
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| bearhands | it's not completely straight forward that it's stupid | 20:57 |
| bearhands | i mean, completely obvious | 20:58 |
| bearhands | but there are a lot of places where we should maybe just UPDATE .. WHERE .. | 20:58 |
| marun | the fact that we are doing cascade deletion in code is a pretty obvious case of stupid | 20:59 |
| marun | i'm not sure why openstack is so allergic to triggers | 20:59 |
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| markmcclain | blogan: for first change I'd pick something really small and with limited files/lines, so that the process is the focus | 21:00 |
| markmcclain | blogan: yeah hacking compliance changes should be done as one unit otherwise it is possible changes will land in interim that conflict | 21:01 |
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| blogan | markmcclain: i agree and going through all the changes that would have to happen in one unit and the chain effect of other pep8 violations resulting led me to believe this was too much for a first time commit | 21:04 |
| blogan | markmcclain: i'll backlog that item and do a smaller one as I originally intended and revisit this one when i get more experience | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | blogan: if you wanting to learn process.. this should be easy change https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1215270 | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | and it is limited to 1 file | 21:07 |
| blogan | markmcclain: thanks! i will certainly do that one | 21:08 |
| blogan | markmcclain: for future reference though, would a large change like that one be best done in one commit or broken up into logical commits? | 21:09 |
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| markmcclain | hacking like that should be done in 1 commit | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | otherwise interim code is likely to land which you'll keep chasing | 21:10 |
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| blogan | ah maybe i misunderstood that part of the process, i assumed you could push a branch to gerrit with many commits | 21:13 |
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| marun | bearhands, damnsmith: I've found a wtf already in _port_delete... | 21:14 |
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| marun | bearhands, damnsmith: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_v2.py#L1372 | 21:14 |
| marun | bearhands, damnsmith: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/models_v2.py#L93 | 21:15 |
| marun | Can either of you see a reason to be manually deleting ip allocations when a perfectly good cascade delete trigger is already defined? | 21:15 |
| damnsmith | marun: is pool an additional consideration? I can't tell what's being done differently there though | 21:17 |
| damnsmith | seems like both the if and else clauses are doing the same thing? | 21:17 |
| bearhands | marun: I don't know that stuff well enough to say | 21:17 |
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| damnsmith | oh, no | 21:17 |
| marun | damnsmith: not that I can see | 21:18 |
| damnsmith | wait, yeah, the wrapping was messing me up | 21:18 |
| damnsmith | hrm | 21:18 |
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| damnsmith | marun: yeah, I dunno, seems like the manual allocation delete is unnecessary | 21:18 |
| marun | I mean, apparently it's important to log when an ip won't be recycled. But that shouldn't require a different deletion method. | 21:18 |
| damnsmith | heh | 21:18 |
| damnsmith | right | 21:19 |
| marun | markmcclain: I think we need your opinion ^^ | 21:20 |
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| marun | markmcclain: it appears as if there should be no need to do anything but delete the port | 21:22 |
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| marun | markmcclain: which would remove the locks and maybe remove the possibility of deadlock | 21:22 |
| marun | markmcclain: but maybe I'm missing something | 21:22 |
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| markmcclain | blogan: you can push many commits, but ideally the reviews should be a single logical unit so that history stays clean and reverts are easy should it be needed | 21:25 |
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| markmcclain | marun: we were having issues with duplicate IPs | 21:27 |
| marun | markmcclain: so it's to paper over a deeper bug? | 21:27 |
| marun | markmcclain: wait… that still doesn't make sense to me... | 21:27 |
| marun | markmcclain: There is a relationship between ipallocation and port with a cascade delete | 21:27 |
| marun | markmcclain: why is it not sufficient to delete the port and why does ip address even come into it? | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | well that's because this is a left over | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | look at havana | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/stable/havana/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_v2.py#L1412 | 21:28 |
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| markmcclain | actually wait the code is the same | 21:29 |
| marun | markmcclain: so in what case would the current model definition not obviate the need for manual removal of ipallocation? | 21:29 |
| marun | markmcclain: I'm guessing that something changed, I'm just wanting to see if we can clean this up and not have to rely on a retry_on_deadlock decorator | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | ok.. so there is a subtle difference | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | previously we would recycle the ip and compact the pool on the spot | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | so locking the table was necessary | 21:31 |
| markmcclain | now with _delete_ip being called we're just manually deleting it | 21:31 |
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| markmcclain | marun: here's the bad part | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_v2.py#L1379 | 21:33 |
| marun | markmcclain: why is that necessary? | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | this is conditional runs another query and has _no_ impact because the logic is the same for if and else branch | 21:34 |
| marun | markmcclain: right. | 21:34 |
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| markmcclain | so sadly we're still going to need to call NeutronDbPluginV2._delete_ip_allocation() | 21:35 |
| marun | markmcclain: again, since the ipallocation is queried by port id, cascade delete will ensure deletion of every ipallocation being examined in the current code | 21:35 |
| marun | markmcclain: here's where you explain why we have a cascade deletion then... | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | because someone could have done some really funny overriding | 21:35 |
| marun | markmcclain: can't we search pretty easily for that? | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | granted inheriting and then overriding a static method on the base class basically requires monkeypatching | 21:36 |
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| marun | markmcclain: if it's being done in tree, we can address it | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | yeah | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | also this will save a subnet lookup too | 21:38 |
| marun | markmcclain: + we have tests ;) | 21:38 |
| marun | markmcclain: ok, I'm going to -2 the retry_on_deadlock patch pending a patch that will clean up _port_delete. We may still need it, but hopefully not. | 21:39 |
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