| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack/neutron: NSX plugin: fix get_gateway_devices https://review.openstack.org/86748 | 00:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jenkins proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/85647 | 06:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Log iptables rules when they fail to apply https://review.openstack.org/86810 | 06:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Log iptables rules when they fail to apply https://review.openstack.org/86810 | 08:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Log iptables rules when they fail to apply https://review.openstack.org/86810 | 08:15 |
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| salv-orlando | jlibosva: around? | 08:43 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: hi | 08:43 |
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| salv-orlando | jlibosva: did you had a chance to look at uncategorized grenade failures? | 08:44 |
| salv-orlando | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/data/uncategorized.html | 08:44 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: nope, I wasn't aware of such site. I was able though to find a patch that broke grenade because of metering not deployed in havana | 08:44 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: just took a look no the first top 5 failed jobs. all fail because of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80539/ | 08:46 |
| jlibosva | s/ no / on / | 08:46 |
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| salv-orlando | jlibosva: thanks. I think a common cause is likely… | 08:49 |
| salv-orlando | follow up question is… do we have already a bug and an assignee for this issue? | 08:50 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: you mean for deploying metering in havana? | 08:50 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: I don't think so | 08:50 |
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| salv-orlando | jlibosva: ok, thanks I will file it, and hopefully try to fix it as well | 08:52 |
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| jlibosva | salv-orlando: ok, there is already a patch no review backported couple days ago: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85658/ | 08:52 |
| salv-orlando | yeah right I recalled that | 08:52 |
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| salv-orlando | but I don't get how the other patch managed to merge however :/ | 08:52 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: which one? | 08:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: DHCP agent should check interface is UP before adding route https://review.openstack.org/85749 | 08:53 |
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| salv-orlando | jlibosva: 80539 - but I did not see grenade is not voting yet | 08:55 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: that's the said part of the story in my opinion. Grenade was voting by that time reporting failures. So grenade was set to non-voting job in order to get this patch merged... | 08:56 |
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| salv-orlando | jlibosva: it was decided to switcht the job to non voting for a patch which partially implements a blueprint which is not even approved??? :/ | 08:57 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: but technically the patch is ok, it just revealed again the fact that metering service is not deployed in havana | 08:57 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: I don't know details. I was just told by sdague that he has been asked to disable voting because grenade job is unstable. | 08:58 |
| salv-orlando | jlibosva: thanks; I will follow up either with sdague or on the mailing list later on then… I just want to understand if there was any other reasons for switching it off | 08:59 |
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| jlibosva | salv-orlando: thank you too. Maybe there is but I'm not aware of any. I'm interested in this as well. | 09:01 |
| salv-orlando | jlibosva: we should have both full and grenade job voting as soon as icehouse release… we kind of promised this, and I would love to make that happen | 09:04 |
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| sdague | salv-orlando: just waking up, but the only reason I turned it off was as soon as clark merged it voting everywhere, I noticed it failing on a few jobs. And it was 9pm at night here and couldn't dig further | 09:17 |
| sdague | so if it looks good now, I'll put for it to vote again | 09:17 |
| salv-orlando | sdague: thanks. I forgot about your 5am wake-ups ;) | 09:17 |
| sdague | :) | 09:17 |
| salv-orlando | sdague: it was actually broken, so it now fails 100% | 09:17 |
| sdague | ok | 09:18 |
| sdague | yeh, it broke because a devstack change got through which wasn't gating | 09:18 |
| sdague | but I thought the one in question was reverted | 09:18 |
| sdague | if there are other patches we should revert, let me know, we'll fast track them | 09:18 |
| salv-orlando | sdague: there was a neutron migration patch that broke it | 09:18 |
| sdague | because it was working | 09:18 |
| salv-orlando | jlibosva has a devstack patch for fixing this issue already, but it requires backporting a new neutron service to stabe/havana | 09:19 |
| salv-orlando | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85658/ | 09:19 |
| sdague | we shouldn't backport a new service to stable/havana | 09:20 |
| sdague | explain the issue, and I might have a different solution | 09:20 |
| salv-orlando | sdague - read my comment on the review | 09:20 |
| sdague | ok, will do that nwo | 09:21 |
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| sdague | ok, so I feel like this is exactly the kind of situation we want to test for. Because if someone didn't have this service deployed they'd explode. | 09:24 |
| sdague | how do we get here? why isn't that table created on stable? | 09:24 |
| sdague | the schema is service dependent? | 09:25 |
| salv-orlando | sdague: there is a single, global, db migration version identifier | 09:28 |
| salv-orlando | in havana, metering is disabled. The migration is then skipped. But at the end of the migration process we get to 'havana' migration tag | 09:29 |
| sdague | ok, that seems *really* problematic | 09:29 |
| salv-orlando | when upgrading to icehouse, metering is enabled, so in the process tmetering-related migrations is executed, but fails because metering was never enabled in the first place and so the tables aren't there. | 09:29 |
| salv-orlando | sdague, yes it is. | 09:30 |
| sdague | like fatally so for deployers. So I would much rather not paper over that. | 09:30 |
| salv-orlando | I have an idea of splitting the migration process into distinct, per service, paths. However, I'm not sure that is backportable. | 09:31 |
| salv-orlando | I need to talk with the other folks which are sleeping now. | 09:31 |
| salv-orlando | sdague: I think at this stage the best way forward is to file a bug for this issue, and keep grenade not voting until this is solved. | 09:32 |
| sdague | so I spent a bunch of time at one point "healing" nova migrations (i.e. ensuring that no matter how you got to point A your schema looks the same) | 09:32 |
| sdague | my suggestion is you land another migration which ensures all the tables are created, regardless of services | 09:32 |
| sdague | salv-orlando: agreed on keeping grenade not voting here | 09:33 |
| salv-orlando | sdague: perhaps this would work; maybe we'll end up with unused tables in the database, but who cares I guess | 09:35 |
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| sdague | yeh, honestly, empty tables in the db isn't really an issue that anyone is going to care about | 09:35 |
| sdague | however, not being able to upgrade because of db explode, people care :) | 09:35 |
| salv-orlando | there are a few cases where this won't work I guess. But I agree this is the shortest path to get upgrade working with service plugins | 09:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Édouard Thuleau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement local ARP responder onto OVS agent https://review.openstack.org/49227 | 09:40 |
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| jlibosva | salv-orlando: sdague I was having a lunch so I missed the conversation. My question is why devstack doesn't deploy metering service even though it's a part of havana release? | 10:09 |
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| oglok | Hi everyone | 10:33 |
| oglok | Is there anyone there? I have a question about the API for the LoadBalancer | 10:34 |
| oglok | I've been one day and a half...and still stuck on this | 10:35 |
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| oglok | #openstack.-sdks | 11:04 |
| sdague | jlibosva: probably because no one got around to adding it, especially as it had not tests | 11:04 |
| oglok | #openstack-sdks | 11:05 |
| sdague | jlibosva: however, why is sort of irelevant I think | 11:05 |
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| sdague | because this is something that could happen to real people. Bring up only some neutron services | 11:05 |
| sdague | then add new services later | 11:05 |
| sdague | and apparently if they do that, explode | 11:05 |
| sdague | so it's a good find | 11:06 |
| jlibosva | sdague: ok. would a workaround in grenade help here? I can generate sql script with offline migration only for metering service | 11:07 |
| jlibosva | sdague: at the same place where metering service is being configured | 11:08 |
| sdague | jlibosva: well how would you expect a deployed environment to solve this? | 11:08 |
| jlibosva | sdague: in real world? | 11:08 |
| sdague | yes | 11:08 |
| jlibosva | sdague: using offline migration :) | 11:08 |
| jlibosva | sdague: that's the same use case when adding new service into already created environment, not necessary related to upgrades | 11:09 |
| sdague | what about a CDing environment that's spinning every 2 weeks | 11:09 |
| sdague | jlibosva: it seems really broken to me that this isn't handled in the normal upgrade process | 11:09 |
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| jlibosva | sdague: I would call it adding new service rather than upgrading | 11:11 |
| jlibosva | sdague: do you know how other OS services handle such scenarios? I'm not very familiar with that | 11:11 |
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| sdague | jlibosva: I only know the nova case in great detail. There we've got the same data model regardless of which services are running. | 11:18 |
| sdague | even if that means some empty tables some times | 11:18 |
| jlibosva | aha | 11:18 |
| sdague | that being said, what I'm hearing here is turning on a new service requires the operator to write a custom sql migration themselves? | 11:19 |
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| jlibosva | sdague: basically there is a chain of automatic scripts, I imagine it like a linked list where every field has a tag. The scripts are executed according enabled services. If migration step is missed (like case of metering), there is no easy automatic way how to run the whole process again. There is a chance to generate sql scripts performing specific steps from the migratino chain - that could be | 11:21 |
| jlibosva | used in our case | 11:21 |
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| fandi | hi all | 11:28 |
| fandi | i don't know, what the problem if ip netns qdhcp cannot ping qrouter and ip vm | 11:28 |
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| vks | hi all , can we update the I.P. of a VM at run time ? | 11:34 |
| vks | does neutron has any API for that? | 11:35 |
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| sdague | jlibosva: that seems like a really bad deployer story | 11:41 |
| sdague | basically if you don't deploy all the services in the release they are added, then you have to manually hack your database to bring them online later | 11:42 |
| ZangMingJie | Hi, I found there is a subnet field in vpnservice, but it hasn't beed used anywhere, what's the purpose of the field ? | 11:44 |
| kedarkul | Hi all, why is creation of multiple networks-subnets with same cidr is allowed under same tenant? | 11:47 |
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| jlibosva | sdague: right, exactly our case :) | 11:51 |
| sdague | jlibosva: right, that's a *terrible* thing to tell to users :) | 11:52 |
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| sdague | I think the root cause is a misunderstanding of how db migrations are supposed to be used. Because it's a global counter, any path through the migrations should always lead to exactly the same schema. | 11:53 |
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| sdague | which clearly is not the case. So I think that's step #1 for the solution, a set of healing migrations that ensure that no matter what happened in the past everyone at a given githash has exactly the same schema | 11:54 |
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| sdague | a db migration number should exactly correlate to exactly the same db schema on all systems regardless of configuration | 11:55 |
| sdague | otherwise, craziness | 11:55 |
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| jlibosva | sdague: so do you think adding some "force" flag to neutron-db-manage to run the whole chain and skipping already existing tables would do the thing? | 11:55 |
| sdague | I don't think so | 11:56 |
| sdague | because you could have alters that got skipped as well | 11:56 |
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| salv-orlando | I don't think that would work either. Also, another constraint is that we need to check what is supported or not by alembic. | 12:08 |
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| sdague | salv-orlando: yeh. Does alembic support multiple namespaces? | 12:14 |
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| salv-orlando | sdague: I'm checking but I think not. I'm trying to see if it possible to add this 'intelligence' in the migration process itself. | 12:14 |
| salv-orlando | sdague: I mean neutron migrations, not alembic | 12:15 |
| sdague | right | 12:15 |
| sdague | though I think that gets error prone, honestly | 12:15 |
| sdague | a migration id # really is supposed to always mean exactly the same schema | 12:15 |
| sdague | and I think violating that is going to lead to lots of tears | 12:16 |
| salv-orlando | sdague: another problem is that there might be migrations which alter schema for various plugins | 12:16 |
| sdague | salv-orlando: again, that all seems crazy | 12:16 |
| sdague | I think it was lost what migrations where meant for | 12:17 |
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| salv-orlando | I think the logic worked fine when one had a single plugin to choose. This way we could have had plugin-specific migration paths (upgrades from one plugin to another were not possible, but the DB in this case was only one of the problems). | 12:22 |
| salv-orlando | when service plugins were introduced, I have to admin the potential problems were not even evaluated. | 12:24 |
| salv-orlando | s/admin/admit | 12:24 |
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| salv-orlando | sdague: anyway, I will consider possible solutions and keep in mind your idea of always creating tables to see whether that might just work. | 12:24 |
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| sdague | salv-orlando: cool, happy to help in any way. | 12:28 |
| sdague | The other question is whether some of the data actually needs to be in relational fields, or could go into json blobs, like gets done with metadata in nova | 12:29 |
| sdague | which then detaches the schema problem somewhat | 12:29 |
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| humbolt1 | I got an authentication problem. Interesting enough, it only concerns nova and neutron (cinder and glance are fine). This surely must be a lead to what causes the problem, doesn't it? | 14:22 |
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| hrzbrg | the last meeting agenda mentions that "Robert" has a working v6 devstack environment. if he's here: are you willing to share your configuration o_O | 16:37 |
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| HenryG | hrzbrg: I believe that "Robert" is baoli | 16:41 |
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| hrzbrg | baoli, I'm a master student currently digging into neutron and starting to plan the migration to v6 for a small (very small) IaaS startup. I followed the discussion on the mailing list about the necessary patches that are still under development. I'm currently setting up a testlab and I want my instances to get publicly routable v6 adresses | 16:53 |
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| baoli | hrzbrg, I am thinking to push my patch onto a repository (not the devstack repo yet) so that people may use it. I'll find out, and once I'm done, I will send an email to the ML. | 16:59 |
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| hrzbrg | baoli, that would be great | 17:15 |
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| juice | sorry I know this question has been asked many times but I can't seem to find the answer elsewhere...booting a nova instance with 2 nics or booting it with 1 and then attaching another later | 19:35 |
| juice | it seems like the 2nd one does not get its ip address because dhcp is not started for the second interface | 19:36 |
| juice | am I missing something or is the only way to get this to work is manually start the dhcp client on the instance for the 2nd interface. | 19:36 |
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| juice | thanks in advanced | 19:36 |
| juice | oh context is: havana; neutron; ml2; ovs | 19:37 |
| juice | precise | 19:37 |
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| zzelle | mestery, hi | 20:03 |
| mestery | zzelle: Yo! | 20:03 |
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| zzelle | hi, PTL :) | 20:03 |
| zzelle | mestery, thanks for your remark on https://review.openstack.org/76685 | 20:04 |
| mestery | zzelle: Sure! I think carl_baldwin and sylvain are right about the impact there. | 20:05 |
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| zzelle | mestery, i share the option to avoid breaking things | 20:05 |
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| zzelle | mestery, but do you have any smarter idea to test patch port support than trying to create one ? | 20:06 |
| mestery | zzelle: OK. Having the ability to autodetect per sylvain would be very nice there, we do the same thing for VXLAN support, and will do it for cookie support in an upcoming patch from asadoughi. | 20:06 |
| mestery | zzelle: That's a good question actually. | 20:06 |
| mestery | zzelle: patch ports were not upstreamed into the Linux kernel OVS datapath I believe. | 20:07 |
| mestery | zzelle: And then in later versions of OVS they were moved to userspace. | 20:07 |
| mestery | zzelle: So, this is tricky indeed. | 20:07 |
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| zzelle | mestery, let me check | 20:08 |
| zzelle | mestery, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1045613/comments/4 | 20:08 |
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| mestery | zzelle: OK, nice! So, we now only have to worry about a small subset of users: Those running kernel before patch port support who migrate to a newer version of Neutron. | 20:10 |
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| zzelle | mestery, so i could reuse the work you did for vxlan check (just need to the correct ovs or kernel version) ? | 20:14 |
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| mestery | zzelle: I think that's the appropriate place to start, yes. VXLAN has similar constraints as the patch ports you're looking for. | 20:15 |
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| zzelle | fine, do it make sense to still allow users to disable the patch or only check on kernel version ? | 20:16 |
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| mestery | zzelle: If it autodetects, I think that should be enough IMHO. | 20:25 |
| zzelle | mestery, fine ... enough configuration :), | 20:26 |
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| zzelle | mestery, from ovs 1.10 changelog "Patch ports no longer require kernel support, so they now work with FreeBSD and the kernel module built into Linux 3.3 and later." | 20:27 |
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| mestery | zzelle: Cool! There you go. :) | 20:27 |
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| zzelle | carl_baldwin, hi | 22:39 |
| carl_baldwin | zzelle: hi | 22:39 |
| zzelle | carl_baldwin, i am trying to customize router deploiement/undeploiement to meet my requirements | 22:40 |
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| zzelle | carl_baldwin, typically i want to change some router namespace config/start a snort | 22:43 |
| zzelle | i currently cannot customize neutron "gracefully" , will it make sense to propose to add hooks to the l3 agent manager or allow through configuration to change l3 agent manager ? | 22:44 |
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| carl_baldwin | zzelle: What sort of customization are you trying to make? | 22:44 |
| zzelle | typically run a snort inside the router namespace | 22:45 |
| carl_baldwin | By snort do you mean packet trace? | 22:46 |
| zzelle | it's for intrusion detection/prevention | 22:47 |
| zzelle | honestly the requirement is unclear, currently it seems i need to perform action on router-post-deploiement/router-pre-undeploiement and on port-post-add/port-pre-remove | 22:48 |
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| carl_baldwin | That is starting to make sense. You're trying to insert some sort of service in the router. | 22:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | Not really a service I guess. | 22:50 |
| zzelle | yes, exactly, i need hooks to insert things in the process | 22:50 |
| carl_baldwin | It sounds like it would follow the pattern of something like the metadata proxy. | 22:51 |
| zzelle | by things, i mean i am not sure to know what it is at the moment and i think other peoples might need way to customize router (un)deploiement/update | 22:52 |
| zzelle | currently, i have 3 use cases: integrating a snort, fine tuning iptables/ebtables, routing | 22:54 |
| carl_baldwin | I think there might have been some discussion on abstracting this sort of thing. I'm not sure where that discussion ended up. It was before I had really ramped up with the team. | 22:54 |
| zzelle | fine, do you know who could the correct contact point ? L3 subteam meeting ? :) | 22:55 |
| carl_baldwin | I have to leave pretty soon. This may be a good discussion for the ML. Could you start a thread under [Neutron][L3]? | 22:57 |
| carl_baldwin | zzelle: ^ | 22:58 |
| zzelle | carl_baldwin, yes of course :) | 22:59 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, that'd be great. I'll watch for the thread. | 23:00 |
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