Wednesday, 2014-05-14

openstackgerritMandeep Dhami proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Initial version of service chaining specification  https://review.openstack.org/9352400:04
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openstackgerritoda-g proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make neutron-db-manage available for Metaplugin  https://review.openstack.org/8566000:28
openstackgerritMandeep Dhami proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Initial version of service chaining specification  https://review.openstack.org/9352400:31
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openstackgerritoda-g proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make neutron-db-manage available for Metaplugin  https://review.openstack.org/8566000:38
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: NSX: pass the right argument during metadata setup  https://review.openstack.org/9191300:45
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openstackgerritoda-g proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make neutron-db-manage available for Metaplugin  https://review.openstack.org/8566000:50
openstackgerritoda-g proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make neutron-db-manage available for Metaplugin  https://review.openstack.org/8566000:57
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openstackgerritMandeep Dhami proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Initial version of service chaining specification  https://review.openstack.org/9352402:08
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openstackgerritKanzhe Jiang proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec for service-base-and-insertion blueprint  https://review.openstack.org/9312803:51
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openstackgerritnlahouti proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Support for extensions in ML2 Mechanism Drivers  https://review.openstack.org/8920804:43
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lifelessgh2014-05-14 04:44:12.123 25940 WARNING nova.scheduler.filters.compute_filter [req-816dc5b9-4493-4592-af78-d5924f204:46
lifeless1e4bd7e1) ram:98304 disk:1638400 io_ops:0 instances:0 has not been heard from in a while04:46
lifelessbah04:46
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openstackgerritkedar kulkarni proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Corrected the syntax of port_update call to NVSD agent  https://review.openstack.org/9337904:51
kashyaplifeless, Got a moment? I think it's late for you there (NZ?)04:52
kashyapWhen you do -04:52
kashyapWhen I launch an instance, I frequently see this w/ Neutron+ML2+GRE+OVS w/ IceHouse:04:52
kashyapt/libvirt/driver.py", line 953, in destroy\n    destroy_disks)\n', '  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py", line 989, in cleanup\n    self.unplug_vifs(instance, network_info)\n', '  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py", line 860, in unplug_vifs\n    self.vif_driver.unplug(instance, vif)\n', '  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nova/virt/libvirt/vif.py", line 798,04:52
kashyapin unplug\n    _("Unexpected vif_type=%s") % vif_type)\n', 'NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed\n']04:52
kashyap2014-05-14 06:23:04.814 28655 WARNING nova.compute.manager [-] Bandwidth usage not supported by hypervisor.04:52
kashyapMore details here in comment#6 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/130399804:53
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lifelesskashyap: I'm at the summit04:59
lifelesskashyap: its 1am04:59
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kashyaplifeless, Ah, sorry. Just disregard me.05:00
lifelessanyhow - uhm, might be you don't hve the nova callback stuff setup ?05:00
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* kashyap looks up "nova callback" related stuff05:06
* kashyap stumbled across - https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/129378205:08
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kashyapWeird thing is - when I use Neutron admin credentials, the instance goes into ACTIVE mode05:11
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kashyap(i.e., it boots w/o the "binding_failed" error)05:11
kashyapOkay, this seems to be the change that introduced it - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74832/2605:20
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YorikSarajo: Hello. Around?08:15
ajohi YorikSar  yes :)08:16
ajohello :)08:16
ajoI'm writting a little summary for http://junodesignsummit.sched.org/event/21b51dfcc1d4098383904f923dfb9a74#.U3Mj7pAjGIZ ,08:16
ajomy colleages are there, but I couldn't go this year :/08:16
YorikSarajo: Oh, same here :)08:17
ajoahhh, too bad08:17
ajoI hope we can see each other in the next summit :)08:17
YorikSarajo: I'm writing blueprint for Neutron about rootwrap08:17
ajonice :-)08:17
ajoso, you saw the infamous driver instantation for every call?08:18
ajoI was surprised when I saw it the first time, even though It wasn't making a problem for me at that moment, I guessed performance wouldn't be very good08:19
YorikSarajo: I doubt that - I have some problems with getting international passport, so unless next summit is in Russia I won't be able to participate.08:19
ajo:/08:19
ajoYorikSar, is it that bad in Russia? :/08:19
ajodamn governments...08:20
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YorikSarajo: I don't think that driver instantiation is a bottleneck, so I worked around that in my latest patch set. But I guess I'll get to moving network to action arguments instead of construcor ones.08:20
ajoaha08:22
ajowell, if it's not a bottleneck and the implementation looks good...08:22
YorikSarajo: My problem is conscription and I don't want to fiddle with it until I'm old enough to say them "too late!"08:22
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ajoahhh :/08:23
ajook, understood08:23
ajobeen there, until the mandatory military service was removed in Spain.08:23
YorikSarajo: I mean, creation of a number of objects is so small compared to spawning a process.08:24
ajosure08:24
ajothat's true08:24
YorikSarajo: Yeah. They talk about getting rid of it all the time, but nothing changes. I hope missing OpenStack summits will be the only way that would touch me :)08:26
ajohehehe :)08:26
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ajoYorikSar, when you have the bp for the rootwrap daemon. :-) I'll include in the summary to my peers :)08:27
ajoah... missed half of the phrase08:28
ajoI was meaning08:28
ajowhen you have the bp, drop me a link08:28
YorikSarajo: Sure :)08:28
YorikSarajo: I'll CC you in Gerrit and will ping you here to be sure.08:29
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ajothanks a lot :-)08:30
ajoI've been off for 15 days, because I had another daughter (2nd) and... it's like ages, it's taking me a little bit to reconnect with everything I was doing :)08:31
YorikSarajo: Oh, congratulations :)08:32
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YorikSarajo: Yeah. I had to switch to scheduler work for some time and even then had hard time remembering what did I want to do with rootwrap. But having such a great event should purge all thoughts about work at once :)08:34
ajohehehehe :-) thanks :)08:36
ajoyes, task switching is hard, I do too much task switching lately, debugging live neutrons, helping in packaging it at Red Hat, trying to do reviews to stay updated with all the work in neutron...08:37
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ajohi ihrachyshka08:38
ajo:-)08:38
ihrachyshkaajo: hi08:38
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ekarlsouhm, has anyone had problems with openvswitch dying and the ovs agent stopping to work due to it ?08:41
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Test3  https://review.openstack.org/9354610:24
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YorikSarajo: Still around?10:46
YorikSarajo: I've just got results of first Rally rounds on bare Neutron vs my patch.10:47
YorikSarajo: In two words: 1.5x speedup :)10:47
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ajonice10:51
ajogood job10:51
ajoYorikSar, what do I need to try it? just the current neutron patch?10:51
YorikSarYep10:52
ajoI hope I'll be able to test it before the end of the week10:52
ajoI used to ran a few scripts to generate N*(net + router + VM(Cirros) )10:52
YorikSarajo: If you have running devstack, apply my patch, run "pip install -e /opt/stack/neutron" to create neutron-rootwrap-daemon script and restart Neutron parts.10:53
ajowhere N=200-400, things start to be funnier10:53
ajospecially if you cleanup all the namespaces and processes, and let the l2 / l3 agents restart :)10:54
YorikSarajo: Rally doesn't test agent restart, btw :)10:54
YorikSarajo: So you might see even better speedup :)10:54
ajoyes10:54
YorikSarajo: (or worse)10:54
ajoI was about to say that10:55
ajoalmost, yes for sure10:55
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ajoagent startup from scratch with lots of networks is a lot of system calls10:55
ajoso it should be better, we will see :)10:56
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YorikSarGiven numbers you gave in that very first email (24 mins with rootwrap vs 10 mins with sudo), with daemon you should see smth around 5-7 min :)10:56
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YorikSarAlthough it's still very long wait...10:57
ajowell much better anyway :)10:58
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ajoa 5-7 min downtime in the event of a catastrophe could be understood10:59
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YorikSarajo: Yeah... Or just during simple upgrade.11:02
openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Test3  https://review.openstack.org/9354611:02
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ajoYorikSar, during an upgrade, the resources shouldn't be cleaned up...11:03
ajothe agents are made for...11:03
ajo1) stop, 2) upgrade 3) start ...11:03
YorikSarajo: btw, it won't even be a downtime per se. You won't be able to change anything but everything would still be working.11:03
ajowithout cleaning up the resources11:03
ajomay be some distributions need reboot, that's different11:03
ajoyeah11:04
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openstackgerritWang Bo proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Reorg table ml2_port_bindings when db migration  https://review.openstack.org/9327111:30
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openstackgerritDarragh O'Reilly proposed a change to openstack/neutron: linuxbridge-agent: process port updates in the main loop  https://review.openstack.org/6287511:35
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ekarlsomestery: hi!11:56
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ekarlsomestery: there's a bug in the ovs plugin, it leaves too many monitor sessions open i think ..11:59
mesteryekarlso: Is that so? Does it affect ML2+OVS as well?12:00
ekarlsomestery: i am using ml2 < server side and the ovs on the nodes..12:00
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ekarlsodoesn't that sound right =12:00
mesteryYes, that's right.12:02
ekarlsofor 2 of my nodes I can see there's 8 monitor sessions atm12:03
mesteryOuch! Is this with Icehouse?12:03
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mesteryekarlso: I'm about to start Neutron sessions soon, maybe file a bug?12:04
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ekarlsocrap :p12:08
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openstackgerritWang Bo proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Reorg table ml2_port_bindings when db migration  https://review.openstack.org/9327112:12
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hrzbrgs there already a recording from the IPv6 Summit Session?12:46
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openstackgerritArvind Somya proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: L3 router Service plugin for the Cisco APIC  https://review.openstack.org/8960814:04
yamamotovthapar: ping14:04
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vthaparyamamoto: pong.14:06
vthaparyamamoto: I am sitting outside B304, striped blue.white,red shirt.14:07
yamamotoi’ll get out of b304 and try to find you14:07
yamamotowith red cloth14:08
vthaparI'm in striped blue,red shirt, sitting next to Loic Dachary [in case you know him].14:08
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openstackgerritKanzhe Jiang proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec for service-base-and-insertion blueprint  https://review.openstack.org/9312814:15
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack/neutron: NSX: Do not extend fault map for network gateway ext  https://review.openstack.org/9356514:26
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openstackgerritYa Hong Du proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add 'secret' property for 'connection' option  https://review.openstack.org/9357114:40
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openstackgerritVivekanandan Narasimhan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: L2 Agent/ML2 Plugin changes for L3 DVR  https://review.openstack.org/8773015:31
openstackgerritVivekanandan Narasimhan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add L3 Extension for Distributed Routers  https://review.openstack.org/8422315:31
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openstackgerritWang Bo proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Reorg table ml2_port_bindings when db migration  https://review.openstack.org/9327115:33
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roaetmarkmcclain: hey, this is justin (from the random handshake 30 seconds ago):15:51
roaetjust wondering about what would be the best way for us to get people together ad hoc to talk about pluggable IPAM?15:52
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roaetShall we wait for the core refactoring?15:52
roaetAnd then try to get a quorum then?15:52
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roaetmarkmcclain: I'm just going to advertise it during the core refactoring thing in the etherpad (or if you could plug it a little during it that'd be super great)15:55
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markmcclainroaet: core refactoring and tasks will touch on this too15:57
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roaetmarkmcclain: we're just trying to set up a POD, dunno what is the best way to go about doing that.15:59
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markmcclainjust send an email to -dev with time16:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Upgrade failure for DB2 at ml2_binding_vif_details  https://review.openstack.org/8999016:07
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openstackgerritAndre Aranha proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Transfer Subnet Ownership  https://review.openstack.org/9359616:11
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openstackgerritKanzhe Jiang proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec for service-base-and-insertion blueprint  https://review.openstack.org/9312816:14
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afaranhamarun: Hello, I just submitted a path here (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93596/) but there are some issues with it, the problem is not so simple16:20
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marunafaranha: it is definitely not that simple.16:21
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afaranhaI thought it could do it automatically, since there is the option 'allow_put'16:23
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afaranhamarun: It should update the tenant_id and remove from the network associated with it, and remove the ips that the instances are associated with. And also check quotas and update it in case of change.16:26
afaranhaYeah, it will be complicated16:26
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marunafaranha: Also, you'll need to submit a specification through the spec repo with any patches on this can be reviewed.16:27
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amaraoCan someone from stable team look to the backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93343/ .Thanks.16:28
afaranhaOK, thank you.16:28
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marunsalv-orlando: ping16:30
salv-orlandomarun: here16:30
marunamarao: garyk, arosen and markmcclain are the people to talk to on stable16:30
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marunsalv-orlando: Thank you for the review on the retargetable patch.16:30
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marunsalv-orlando: On the topic of autodeletion of resources, why do we delete resources (e.g. network, ports, etc) in the unit tests?16:31
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marunsalv-orlando: since db state is thrown away, it seems like unnecessary work.16:31
marunsalv-orlando: I see it talking ~.5s per test to delete a network for example16:31
salv-orlandoI think this goes back to the days where we didn't do that16:31
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marunsalv-orlando: so legacy.  I think I'm going to go through and remove all autodeletion.  it should provide a modest speedup16:32
maruntalking -> taking16:32
salv-orlandoif you don't see tests starting failing after you remove autodeletion, go for it16:32
marunsalv-orlando: awesome, will do.16:32
salv-orlandoit's easy because all you have to do is ifx the generators.16:32
salv-orlandoThat will sort most of the tests16:32
marunsalv-orlando: I'm thinking of removing the generators too, frankly.16:33
marunbut first things first16:33
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marun(since they're only needed to delete after use)16:33
salv-orlandothe generators were coinceved for autodeleting indeed16:33
marunsalv-orlando: biab, lunch!16:33
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salv-orlandoenjoy16:33
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amaraothnx16:34
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lipinskiAnyone know how to stop neutron from adding the iptables rule(s) To DROP DHCP OFFERS?16:45
lipinskiwe need to host a DHCP server on an instance, and this rule is preventing it16:45
lipinskiDROP       udp  --  0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0           udp spt:67 dpt:6816:45
lipinskiEven if we add a security group rule, it is added afterwards, so it does not allow the traffic.16:46
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amaraoliinski, Try to disable dhcp on subnet. I think neutron add that rule to protect own dhcp services.16:59
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afaranhaHello, I'm reading about the code in Neutron about creating resources and found this: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/api/v2/base.py#L52817:29
afaranhaSo, if I am an admin in admin project and want to create a network in another project I'm not allowed to? Even if I set this in the policy?17:30
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markmcclainyeah agreed that is a bit of a mess17:33
markmcclainthe downside is that we'd have to make a few explicit delete tests17:33
markmcclainbut I think that makes the most sense17:34
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afaranhaI don't know how to map from the policy to the code, I particularly try to infer the policy name to an API (Method 100% accurate :P), how can I check this?17:38
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mesterysalv-orlando: Your remote participation in the sessions has been amazing. :)17:53
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* kashyap wonders if there a discussion related to consolidating Neutron configs into a single file? (There was a discussion related to this on upstream list)17:59
mesterykashyap: Nothing scheduled, though it's been discussed.18:00
kashyapmestery, Good to know. Any decision either way?18:01
kashyapDisregard me if you're in the middle of something at the summit :-)18:01
* kashyap hits the hay, will read the scroll in the morning, see ya.18:02
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mesterykashyap: In the design summit, but the discussion was started, no conclusion reached so far.18:03
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kashyapmestery, Cool. FWIW, last 3 days I hand-configured (to feel the pain :-) ) IceHouse w/ Neutron+ML2+OVS+GRE on Fedora 20, and these are Neutron configs I had to track -- http://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/virt/openstack/rdo/IceHouse-Nova-Neutron-ML2-GRE-OVS.txt18:05
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kashyapIMHO, it'd be useful if those myriad Neutron config files could converge into one w/ different sections (like Nova).18:07
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roaetsalv-orlando: ah man. so sad you couldn't make it <318:14
salv-orlandonp I'll see you in paris18:15
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openstackgerritMandeep Dhami proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Initial version of service chaining specification  https://review.openstack.org/9352418:34
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salv-orlandoetherpad for the tasks session anyone?18:41
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jcvossroeat: There was a suggestion to move the IPAM Pod to 1PM since there's a ML2 Plugin session 11:50-12:30.  Might get more participation that way.  What do you think?18:47
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ekarlsomestery: there's already a bug for the thing afik18:57
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mesteryekarlso: nice!18:59
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ekarlsohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1290486 mestery care to take a look ?19:01
ekarlsoit's highly annoying to have to restart the agent each time it borks19:01
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openstackgerritVivekanandan Narasimhan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: l2-pop on, cleaned up ports come in br-tun table 0  https://review.openstack.org/9362419:20
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overlayerFolks, is there any neutron driver, or some blueprint, that creates networks on top of legacy and heterogeneous equipment (overlaying)? Kind of Ironic, but for networking, a "bare metal networking"...19:25
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vthaparoda-g: ping19:36
yamamotooda-g is likely sleeping as it’s 4:30am there19:37
vthaparaha, I thought he was here at the summit. will catch him later tonight. thank you for your response.19:38
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yamamotodepending on topic, you might want to talk iwamoto19:39
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yamamotoiwamoto and oda-g is working in the same team19:40
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vthaparI don't see him in IRC. can you help introduce me to him?19:40
yamamotoyea19:41
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yamamotoiwamoto is in b30419:41
vthaparI'm in another discussion, will join the room at end of current session.19:42
yamamotook i’ll tell him so19:43
vthaparthank you, very much appreciated.19:43
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iwamotoit was informed that someone is looking for me19:45
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vthapariwamoto: hi, I was19:49
vthaparoda-g left a comment on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-neutron-modular-l2-agent [OVS chaining section]19:49
vthaparwanted to understand what are Xen-Server concerns.19:49
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iwamotovthapar: hello19:51
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iwamotovthapar: current securitygroups impl. use hybrid-something-interface-driver (with kvm)19:52
iwamotovthapar: to mitigate issue iptables not working with ovs19:53
iwamotovthapar: such mitigation not possible with xenserver, iirc.19:53
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vthaparwith OVS firewall driver it would not be an issue, right? you won't need iptables at all and can use OSV for security groups.19:54
vthapar^meant OVS, excuse the typo.19:54
iwamotovthapar: exactly19:55
iwamotovthapar: look for white/dark blue fine striped shirt person in the next break:)19:56
vthapariwamoto: sure will.19:56
vthapariwamoto: sounds very much like my shirt, though I got a bit of red stripes too. if yamamoto is around he can help point me out to you.19:59
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add comments to iptables rules to help debugging  https://review.openstack.org/8616820:06
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add comments to iptables rules to help debugging  https://review.openstack.org/8616820:28
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SuperdocHi20:40
SuperdocI'm having doubts about neutron's internal IP subnet and external IP subnet20:40
Superdoccan anyone help, i'm not able to ping my instance i created20:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Perform policy checks only once on list responses  https://review.openstack.org/9232020:52
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Improve ODL ML2 Exception Handling  https://review.openstack.org/8988621:17
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roaetso who was the lead of taskflow? it was recently discussed in a meeting at the summit.21:31
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SuperdocHi22:00
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Superdoci got found an error in nova scheduler "Host has more disk space than database expected" where do i allocate more disk space in the database?22:00
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Ensure tenant owns devices when creating a gateway  https://review.openstack.org/9364322:16
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack/neutron: NSX: Do not extend fault map for network gateway ext  https://review.openstack.org/9356522:23
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mike-grimaHello, is the weekly neutron meeting happening tonight?22:25
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mike-grimaHi everyone.  I'm an information security grad student, and I have been doing some research on Firewall-as-a-Service related tech.  I ran into the OpenStack project, and was invited to the IRC session to discuss some of my research22:31
mike-grimaI posted some info on the research I am working on here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-May/034575.html22:32
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mike-grimaI had a couple of questions regarding Neutron's Group Policy module and the FWaaS module22:32
mike-grimaNamely, what is the current connection between the group policy module, and the FWaaS plugin?22:33
mike-grimaDoes the group policy module make use of FWaaS?22:33
mike-grimaIs FWaaS a standalone component that is completely isolated from group policy?22:33
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mike-grimaIs anyone on?22:50
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