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openstackgerrit | Itsuro Oda proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Do not schedule reserved DHCP port to agents https://review.openstack.org/98278 | 01:22 |
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openstackgerrit | yangxurong proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Invalid tunnel network shouldn't be created https://review.openstack.org/89982 | 01:41 |
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openstackgerrit | yangxurong proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Invalid tunnel network shouldn't be created https://review.openstack.org/89982 | 01:45 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Fix invalid IPv6 address used in FakeV6 variables https://review.openstack.org/99398 | 03:28 |
openstackgerrit | Feng Ju proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Hash credentials in neutron client log https://review.openstack.org/93866 | 03:32 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Control update, delete for cisco-network-profile https://review.openstack.org/96080 | 04:57 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Big Switch: Catch exceptions in watchdog thread https://review.openstack.org/100075 | 04:58 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Increase default metadata_workers, backlog to 4096 https://review.openstack.org/95372 | 04:58 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/99275 | 06:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Feng Ju proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Hash credentials in neutron client log https://review.openstack.org/93866 | 06:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: physical-network-topology extension spec https://review.openstack.org/91275 | 06:55 |
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ihrachyshka | hey. has anyone noticed issues with open daylight negative voting on valid patches? | 07:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Jyotsna proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: neutron port-list -f csv outputs poorly formatted JSON strings https://review.openstack.org/99929 | 07:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Consistently use jsonutils instead of specific implementation https://review.openstack.org/99760 | 07:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Koteswara Rao Kelam proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add -s option for neutron metering rules https://review.openstack.org/95526 | 07:54 |
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openstackgerrit | stanzgy proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Ensure .egg-info metadata directory existed https://review.openstack.org/100186 | 08:31 |
ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: hey. I saw your comment in one of oslo.messaging reviews. I'd like to make sure we're on same side. I didn't consider your comments as bad or of no value or inappropriate, so there is no single reason for me to be 'angry'. I hope I didn't tell anything that would show my implied (and non-existent) angry. :) thanks for comments. | 08:32 |
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salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: I was merely joking | 08:34 |
ihrachyshka | better safe than sorry :) | 08:35 |
salv-orlando | I never get upset for work related stuff. Nothing that can happen at work is worth getting you upset | 08:35 |
ihrachyshka | I'll elaborate in comments on my take on the issue. :) | 08:35 |
salv-orlando | unless you’re fired of course ;) | 08:35 |
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ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: fyi I've updated review with my comments | 08:41 |
salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: ok, cool. | 08:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Tom Fifield proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix opt helpstring for dhcp_lease_duration https://review.openstack.org/100196 | 09:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Check port value when creating firewall rule with icmp protocol https://review.openstack.org/99372 | 09:20 |
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raies | hi someone | 09:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Use patch ports to interconnect integration/physical bridges https://review.openstack.org/76685 | 09:39 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/99762 | 09:48 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/96267 | 09:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Check port value when creating firewall rule with icmp protocol https://review.openstack.org/99372 | 10:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Yuuichi Fujioka proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: change to allow setting ip address of floating ip https://review.openstack.org/100214 | 10:41 |
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openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: neutron-flavor-framework https://review.openstack.org/90070 | 10:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Yuuichi Fujioka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: change to allow setting ip address of floating ip https://review.openstack.org/70286 | 10:47 |
* maishsk says hello to you all | 10:47 | |
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maishsk | Good afternoon all | 10:48 |
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maishsk | I have a question about LBaaS - anyone around to answer? | 10:48 |
maishsk | What is the purpose of monitors in LB options? | 10:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Don't use root_helper when it's not needed https://review.openstack.org/100216 | 10:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Don't use root_helper when it's not needed https://review.openstack.org/100216 | 10:56 |
maishsk | Are they pnly to tell the LB if the member is responding - and if not remove it from the pool | 10:56 |
maishsk | only* | 10:56 |
maishsk | or also to spawn new members as well - if a member dies? | 10:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Configure agents using neutron.common.config.init (formerly .parse) https://review.openstack.org/97505 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Removed local modification in incubator code https://review.openstack.org/99686 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Don't instantiate RPC clients on import https://review.openstack.org/97506 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Introduced rpc_compat.create_connection() https://review.openstack.org/97290 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Port to oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/97291 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Copy-paste RPC Service class for backwards compatibility https://review.openstack.org/97289 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make sure we call BaseTestCase.setUp() first https://review.openstack.org/97623 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Updated neutron.conf to reflect new RPC options https://review.openstack.org/100014 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Don't explicitly call .stop() on mock.patch objects https://review.openstack.org/98807 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Added notifier entry points for backward compatibility https://review.openstack.org/100013 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Moved rpc_compat.py code back into rpc.py https://review.openstack.org/98813 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Removed 'rpc' and 'notifier' incubator modules https://review.openstack.org/98812 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Introduce RpcCallback class https://review.openstack.org/96792 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Renamed consume_in_thread -> consume_in_threads https://review.openstack.org/98809 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Renamed start_rpc_listener -> start_rpc_listeners https://review.openstack.org/98808 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Removed create_rpc_dispatcher methods https://review.openstack.org/98811 | 11:25 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Renamed argument for create_consumer[s] https://review.openstack.org/98810 | 11:25 |
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enikanorov | ihrachyshka: hey | 11:32 |
ihrachyshka | enikanorov: hey | 11:32 |
enikanorov | ihrachyshka: might it make sense to reduce the number of patches by compacting them into several? | 11:33 |
ihrachyshka | enikanorov: what's your concern? spam in irc? :) | 11:33 |
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ihrachyshka | enikanorov: I was explicitly asked to split one patch into separate logical parts | 11:33 |
openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed a change to openstack/neutron: FWaaS: Don't contact l3 agent if tenant has no routers https://review.openstack.org/99956 | 11:34 |
ihrachyshka | and that's what I did | 11:34 |
enikanorov | right, but may be 20 patches is a little too much | 11:34 |
ihrachyshka | enikanorov: I think the best way to reduce spam is to merge them. I hope this will be done this week, and I'll stop spamming you that much | 11:35 |
ihrachyshka | enikanorov: well, I actually think that having nicely separated patches is a good thing, even if some of them are tiny. easier to track failures, bisect etc. | 11:36 |
enikanorov | i'm more concerned about review queue. looks like updating one patch triggers every depending patches to be rebased | 11:37 |
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ihrachyshka | enikanorov: yes, though if a patch is not touched, all votes remain | 11:38 |
ihrachyshka | enikanorov: only if you're concerned about push on gate... | 11:38 |
enikanorov | me - not so much :) | 11:38 |
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ihrachyshka | enikanorov: btw most of patches are > 50 lines, some of them are hundreds of lines, I think this is a reasonable threshold | 11:43 |
maishsk | enikanorov: Hi - got a minute for some more LBaaS questions? | 11:44 |
enikanorov | maishsk: yes | 11:44 |
maishsk | what is the purpose of monitors? | 11:44 |
maishsk | Tell me if I understand correctly... | 11:47 |
maishsk | The monitor will check a member either through TCP/HTTP/S/PING to see it if is alive | 11:48 |
maishsk | if the checks fail according to the delay/timeout/retries - then the node will be marked as unavailable? | 11:49 |
maishsk | am I correct in my understanding? | 11:49 |
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maishsk | enikanorov: am I correct in my understanding? | 11:53 |
enikanorov | maishsk: correct | 11:54 |
enikanorov | it's marked as unavailable on both backend and in the database | 11:54 |
enikanorov | and is excluded from palancing | 11:55 |
enikanorov | *balancing | 11:55 |
maishsk | enikanorov: and does this tie somehow into autoscaling groups? i.e. if a node is marked as unavailable - can a new be spawned as a result? | 11:55 |
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enikanorov | maishsk: neutron lbaas doesn't do that for you | 12:03 |
enikanorov | it's orchestration responsibility | 12:03 |
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maishsk | So how would you handle that today - from an orchestration perspective? | 12:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Zang MingJie proposed a change to openstack/neutron: db migration failed when plugin name alias used in config file https://review.openstack.org/81221 | 12:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add vlan type driver unittests https://review.openstack.org/100233 | 12:15 |
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zzelle | yamamoto: hi | 12:34 |
yamamoto | hi | 12:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed a change to openstack/neutron: VPNaaS: Allow vendor extend/override valiadation https://review.openstack.org/96946 | 12:36 |
zzelle | yamamoto: if i understood well, you are using OFagent ? | 12:37 |
yamamoto | yes | 12:37 |
zzelle | yamamoto: do it make sense to implement https://review.openstack.org/76685 for OFagent ? | 12:39 |
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zzelle | yamamoto: after reading https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98702/2/specs/juno/ofagent-merge-bridges.rst, i am not sure if i should or not | 12:39 |
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yamamoto | in general we want to stay away from patch ports. we haven’t decided how to handle physical bridges, though | 12:41 |
yamamoto | ie. please leave ofagent for the change in question, at least for now. thanks for asking. | 12:43 |
zzelle | yamamoto: fine, less work :)) | 12:43 |
zzelle | why OFagent prefer veth over patch ports ? | 12:44 |
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yamamoto | because patch ports is OVS feature and less likely supported by other soft switches | 12:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Zang MingJie proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Option to disable dns on some subnets https://review.openstack.org/100242 | 12:52 |
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cgoncalves | banix, yamahata, jmsoares: ping! I'd like to check if you have some time now and interested in further discussing the traffic steering bp | 13:22 |
banix | cgoncalves: hi | 13:23 |
jmsoares | hi | 13:23 |
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cgoncalves | banix: hi | 13:24 |
cgoncalves | banix: as per reviewers comments, seems that the traffic steering (TS) bp is getting quite some disagreements on how we've proposed it | 13:24 |
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cgoncalves | mostly because we first started it as a service function chaining (SFC) proposal and then moved to TS as part of the advanced services umbrella bp | 13:25 |
cgoncalves | there are two main points being discussed right now | 13:26 |
cgoncalves | 1. 'conflict' with the GBP classifier resource | 13:26 |
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cgoncalves | 2. 'conflict' with the service chain bp and the proposed list of list of ports | 13:26 |
cgoncalves | as per 1. I think both works need the classifier resource and they should have its own classifier resources | 13:27 |
banix | cgoncalves: makes sense | 13:27 |
cgoncalves | that or come up with a generic classifier resource enough to meet both parties | 13:28 |
yamahata | cgoncalves: hi | 13:28 |
cgoncalves | in fact, both share quite the same attributes and could potentially be merged as one | 13:28 |
yamahata | cgoncalves: do you mean yamamoto? | 13:28 |
cgoncalves | yamahata: hi! | 13:28 |
yamahata | cgoncalves: I'm quite fine with reviewing the BP | 13:29 |
cgoncalves | yamahata: are you Isaky Yamahata? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV :-) | 13:29 |
cgoncalves | Isaku, sorry | 13:29 |
yamahata | cgoncalves: I'm Isaku Yamahata | 13:29 |
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cgoncalves | yamahata: I just called you because you mentioned on that NFV table you've some kind of interested in traffic steering | 13:30 |
cgoncalves | yamahata: if that's not the case or you're out for this discussion, no problem. just meant to call the gang together :) | 13:31 |
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cgoncalves | carrying on... | 13:32 |
cgoncalves | banix: before going to #2, what's your opinion on #1? | 13:32 |
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banix | cgoncalves: i think the traffic steering should remain independent from GBP which means it needs its own classifier; so i agree with you in this regard | 13:33 |
openstackgerrit | Chuck Carlino proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add test cases for plugins/ml2/plugin.py https://review.openstack.org/99129 | 13:33 |
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jmsoares | banix: agree that we should keep independent from GBP, but couldn't the "classifier" be common? | 13:35 |
cgoncalves | banix: they would still be independent if we consider a classifier resource suitable for both works. although I can understand that it's now too late for that as the GBP bp has been approved and implemantion has already began | 13:35 |
jmsoares | banix: I mean, what is the obstacle on this? agreeing on specifying the "Classifier" (attributes, etc) | 13:36 |
banix | jmsoares: you mean we have a classifier resource independent of GBP and TS | 13:36 |
cgoncalves | banix: exactly | 13:37 |
jmsoares | maybe in a first stage that is not possible, but we could propose it as part of a roadmap | 13:37 |
banix | jmsoares: cgoncalves I am not sure how we go about it if that is the goal; so let’s think about this for a minute | 13:37 |
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banix | I have no objections to using the classifier as defined in GBP but then we have to keep in mind that the TS spec will depend on it which is fine at this level of dependence | 13:39 |
banix | is that what you are suggesting? | 13:39 |
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cgoncalves | banix: yes, but dettaching the classifier resource as part of the GBP explicitly. so instead of 'neutron policy-classifier-*' we could have 'neutron classifier-*' | 13:42 |
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cgoncalves | baffle: I believe in a near future we will start to see more work being proposed which needs a classifier resource. if we could agree on a common classifier, and then also allowing extensions, we would be cutting lots of duplicated code and simplifying workflows to the user | 13:44 |
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cgoncalves | 14:42:24 < cgoncalves> banix: yes, but dettaching the classifier resource as part of the GBP explicitly. so instead of 'neutron policy-classifier-*' we could have 'neutron classifier-*' | 13:44 |
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banix | cgoncalves: i think this sounds reasonable | 13:45 |
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cgoncalves | banix: ok, but maybe postponing such classifier resource sharing to K-cycle? if you agree, we can continue for now with nothing changing on both ends (TS and GBP) | 13:47 |
banix | cgoncalves: ok | 13:48 |
cgoncalves | banix: thanks | 13:48 |
jmsoares | cgoncalves: looks like a plan. It could be good to approach GBP to harmonize this approach and make that clear in the BP specification | 13:48 |
cgoncalves | banix, jmsoares: moving on to point 2 (list of list of ports) | 13:48 |
cgoncalves | jmsoares: agreed | 13:49 |
jmsoares | it might clarify some doubts regarding this topic | 13:49 |
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jmsoares | cgoncalves: action points on this? Bring this to discussion in GBP? | 13:50 |
jmsoares | and also in advanced services meeting | 13:50 |
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cgoncalves | banix, jmsoares: lots of discussing about this as been going on. list of list of ports was proposed to introduce the idea of chaining but caused lots of confusion with the service chaining bp and GBP | 13:50 |
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cgoncalves | jmsoares: I would like to bring that up on both teams, yes! | 13:51 |
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cgoncalves | banix, jmsoares: for now and until we have a better understanding on how the service chaining is going to be implemented, we could start by proposing something a little bit easier also to implement on the TS bp which is a list of ports rather than list of list of ports | 13:52 |
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cgoncalves | in a list of ports, the first port would represent the source of traffic and the remaining ports the ports to steer traffic to matching classifiers | 13:53 |
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banix | cgoncalves: I agree; I think that is fine; we just need to update the spec to reflect that. I think I expressed that in my review. At least I tried to do so. | 13:54 |
jmsoares | banix: yes, you expressed that. | 13:55 |
openstackgerrit | Arvind Somya proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: ML2 Type drivers refactor to allow extensiblity https://review.openstack.org/91811 | 13:55 |
cgoncalves | banix: yes, you did and we got the message successfully ;-) | 13:55 |
banix | jmsoares: cgoncalves great :) | 13:55 |
cgoncalves | banix: we were just trying to also figure if the rest of the reviewers would be fine with such change too | 13:55 |
banix | cgoncalves: sure i understand | 13:56 |
cgoncalves | banix: my fear is that they would see it as an extension to the tap-as-a-service bp by adding traffic classification on top | 13:56 |
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banix | cgoncalves: could you post the link to the above bp if handy | 13:57 |
cgoncalves | banix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96149/ | 13:57 |
banix | need to be in a meeting in 3 minutes but will read it | 13:58 |
cgoncalves | banix: np, thanks! | 13:58 |
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banix | cgoncalves: there is a need for classifiers in that spec too | 14:01 |
cgoncalves | banix: is there? I can't find any reference to traffic classification on that bp | 14:01 |
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banix | cgoncalves: thought the Tap Flow is something like that but probably not? | 14:03 |
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cgoncalves | banix: it could be but as I see it now I don't think so | 14:05 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Return no active network if the agent has not been learnt yet https://review.openstack.org/93290 | 14:18 |
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jmsoares | cgoncalves, banix: Tap-as-a-Service as it is described now does not have into account classification. Its purpose seems to be to steer all traffic. There is in fact an interesting feature that is proposed there, to be able to redirect traffic between two ports in two different networks (as long as they are owned by the same tenant I think) - this is something that we have not considered so far. | 14:18 |
jmsoares | cgoncalves, banix: if we would be able to support such a feature, could Tap-as-a-Service be seen as a service built on top of the traffic steering feature? | 14:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Vivekanandan Narasimhan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: L2 Agent/ML2 Plugin changes for L3 DVR https://review.openstack.org/87730 | 14:20 |
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cgoncalves | jmsoares: if we could steer traffic to any ports owned by the same user, then highly possible yes | 14:26 |
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jmsoares | cgoncalves: then...questions is, should we actually perform such thing? :) maybe this is something to bring up in the advanced meeting | 14:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Zang MingJie proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Option to disable dns on some subnets https://review.openstack.org/100242 | 14:32 |
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cgoncalves | jmsoares: well, we could also bring that up wednesday. hope we'll have time to discuss all these topics | 14:35 |
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sc68cal | mestery: Here is the work that xuhanp and shixiong were going to work on for J2 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99595/ | 15:09 |
sc68cal | markmcclain1: ^ | 15:09 |
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markmcclain1 | sc68cal: thanks for the link | 15:09 |
sc68cal | yeah, so if you guys can comment about not wanting dnsmasq to do RA's that would help | 15:09 |
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markmcclain1 | I've added comments | 15:13 |
markmcclain1 | sc68cal: let me know if I need to clarify more | 15:13 |
sc68cal | markmcclain1: looks good to me | 15:14 |
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zigo | markmcclain1: Nobody answer my question here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037701.html Do you know what I should do in my package? | 15:18 |
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markmcclain1 | zigo: I'm playing catchup from holiday weekend, but I've flagged you email | 15:20 |
zigo | markmcclain1: Cheers! :) | 15:20 |
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zzelle | markmcclain1: hi | 15:26 |
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markmcclain1 | zzelle: hi | 15:31 |
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zzelle | markmcclain1: i see your review about SELECT FOR UPDATE trouble | 15:34 |
zzelle | markmcclain1: is it acceptable to replace it by: | 15:34 |
mestery | flaviof: Hi | 15:36 |
zzelle | markmcclain1: 1) selecting a candidate (one SQL request) 2) updating candidate information if unchanged (one SQL request) 3) retry if 2) update 0 row ? | 15:36 |
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flaviof | mestery: hey Kyle | 15:36 |
openstackgerrit | Racha Ben Ali proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: GW API - Piece 0.1 : service API for L2 bridging tenants/provider networks https://review.openstack.org/93613 | 15:36 |
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markmcclain1 | zzelle: that should work | 15:36 |
mestery | flaviof: I think your patch looks fine, though when do you run devstack without nova? | 15:36 |
markmcclain1 | will also want to include some kind of bounding of retries | 15:36 |
flaviof | mestery: I'm trying to break up control into control and network nodes, to run l3 agent by itself | 15:37 |
mestery | flaviof: Ah, right! OK, good. | 15:37 |
mestery | flaviof: +1 from me, looks good! | 15:37 |
zzelle | markmcclain1: x retries with x defined as a configuration option with default=3 ? | 15:37 |
markmcclain1 | zzelle: yeah that should work | 15:37 |
flaviof | mestery: just not sure if there were any further expectation on ml2 side that requires nova. | 15:38 |
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mestery | flaviof: That should be the only one I believe. | 15:38 |
flaviof | mestery: I'm thinking not | 15:38 |
flaviof | mestery: cool beans! | 15:38 |
mestery | flaviof: ;) | 15:38 |
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zzelle | markmcclain1: should i split my change into 2 ? 1) for SELECT FOR UPDATE ==> retries, 2) BP update to support partial specs | 15:39 |
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markmcclain1 | zzelle: I dont think so.. I think that you can include the retries for the new code covered by your spec | 15:41 |
markmcclain1 | the other code impacted for select for update will be impacted by of the other work going on | 15:42 |
zzelle | markmcclain1: fine | 15:43 |
zzelle | markmcclain1: thanks | 15:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: API Extension for l2-gateway https://review.openstack.org/100278 | 15:43 |
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zzelle | markmcclain1: it seems strange to define a global option nb_retries in a neutron-specs implementation ? | 15:51 |
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rkukura | zzelle: Have you published a spec or sent an email or anything describing your strategy for eliminating SELECT FOR UPDATE? | 15:55 |
zzelle | rkukura: not for the moment, i was about to ask mike bayer on the right strategy | 15:55 |
markmcclain1 | zzelle: I think initially just define it in a constant for the file | 15:56 |
zzelle | rkukura: and share my stategy on the ML | 15:56 |
rkukura | Are you writing any general helper function to handle retries? | 15:56 |
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zzelle | rkukura: no, my current strategy is specific to network allocation in type drivers | 15:57 |
rkukura | zzelle: If this is just local to specific files, I agree with markmcclain1’s advice | 15:58 |
zzelle | rkukura: i need it for vlan/gre/vxlan in partial specs | 15:58 |
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zzelle | rkukura: fine | 15:58 |
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zzelle | rkukura: is there an intention to backport nova db retries in neutron ? | 15:58 |
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rkukura | zzelle, markmcclain1: My bind-outside-transactions patch needs to be updated, and adds some loops, and I’d like to at least understand how these or additional retry loops might eliminate the need to do DB locking (and the extra layer of locking on top of that). | 15:59 |
pcm_ | Anyone: Are there issues with Jenkins right now? I have a patchset that is failing numerous tests, but they all are failing in setup with fatal errors 'Couldn't find remote ref' | 16:00 |
rkukura | zzelle: I haven’t looked at how nova deals with this. | 16:00 |
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zzelle | pcm_: i had the same trouble ... recheck no bug or new pachset push solved it | 16:00 |
markmcclain1 | pcm_: link? | 16:01 |
pcm_ | http://logs.openstack.org/46/96946/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/1643b8f/ | 16:01 |
zzelle | rkukura: ok | 16:01 |
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pcm_ | zzelle: Yeah, wondering if I should recheck or rebase. | 16:05 |
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sc68cal | markmcclain1: do you think we can clear the workflow -1 from the python-neutronclient change for the ipv6 attributes? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75871/ | 16:07 |
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markmcclain1 | sc68cal: would be ok to wait until I write up a proposal for new names for the enums? | 16:09 |
sc68cal | I'd prefer we get that merged since i have devstack patches that depend on it | 16:09 |
sc68cal | and the devstack patches got merged already | 16:09 |
markmcclain1 | client libs are sticky and once we add the flags we have to provide compatibility for extended time | 16:09 |
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sc68cal | markmcclain1: ok - I don't want to be pushy but we're working on scenario tests and other stuff for tempest, I know those don't use the client, but the args they pass are those attributes | 16:14 |
sc68cal | and we'd have to update those when we change the enums or the attribute labels/names | 16:15 |
markmcclain1 | right the tempest doesn't use the same client | 16:15 |
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markmcclain1 | and I'll make a note that we'll need to clean up tempest scenario tests too | 16:15 |
sc68cal | I believe the tempest scenarios are still in flight - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100134/ | 16:16 |
sc68cal | although it did just get a +2 - soooo that might land soon | 16:16 |
sc68cal | oh wait that's just the spec | 16:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: DB migration refactoring https://review.openstack.org/95738 | 16:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed a change to openstack/neutron: VPNaaS: Allow vendor extend/override valiadation https://review.openstack.org/96946 | 16:23 |
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sc68cal | mestery: does the patch for dnsmasq for the provider networking slaac need to wait for mark to do the relabel/rename? | 16:42 |
sc68cal | https://review.openstack.org/64578 | 16:42 |
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mestery | sc68cal: To me, I think that patch can merge independently. | 16:43 |
sc68cal | perfect :) | 16:44 |
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sc68cal | I hate coming across as pushy, but I want to try and tie up loose ends in ipv6 so I can move to the qos api | 16:50 |
sc68cal | I feel bad basically being like, hey I know I need to update the spec, but I haven't yet. lame excuse | 16:50 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for keystone V3 Support changes https://review.openstack.org/96575 | 17:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Vishal Agarwal proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix pool statistics for LBaaS Haproxy driver https://review.openstack.org/100299 | 17:10 |
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yfried | anyone knows if mlavell is around, or on vacation? | 17:14 |
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mestery | yfried: mlavalle is around to my knowledge, just not on IRC at the moment. | 17:55 |
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yfried | mestery: tnx | 18:01 |
openstackgerrit | Andy Shi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Dell ml2 Mechanism Driver https://review.openstack.org/92495 | 18:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Sumit Naiksatam proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Group Policy Plugin-1: EP, EPG, L2 Policy, L3 Policy https://review.openstack.org/96393 | 18:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Chuck Carlino proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add test cases for plugins/ml2/plugin.py https://review.openstack.org/99129 | 18:32 |
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sc68cal | mlavalle: ping | 18:42 |
mlavalle | sc68cal: pong | 18:45 |
sc68cal | I wanted to bring this to your attention instead of mucking with your section of the neutron meeting wiki page. https://review.openstack.org/100143 | 18:46 |
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sc68cal | SridharG and I are working on more advanced scenario tests | 18:46 |
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mlavalle | sc68cal: really cool, thanks….. as far as the other scenarios, what are they about? | 18:47 |
sc68cal | mlavalle: The scenario tests reflect networking configurations that Comcast deploys in production, when it comes to v4 and v6 connectivity | 18:48 |
sc68cal | currently the scenario tests for networking do NAT and floating ips for connectivity | 18:48 |
sc68cal | we're working on putting stuff into devstack to reflect the way we deploy neutron, so we can then also develop scenario tests that reflect the way we deploy. | 18:49 |
mlavalle | sc68cal: are those scenarios applicable the the community as a whole? | 18:49 |
sc68cal | Basically we do non-openstack hardware devices as the gateway | 18:49 |
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sc68cal | mlavalle: yes, since it uses the provider networking API extension | 18:49 |
sc68cal | which I don't believe has any functional tests | 18:49 |
mlavalle | sc68cal: fantastic, I'll help reviewing this code and making sure we get core reviews from the tempest side | 18:50 |
mlavalle | sc68cal: is that helpful? | 18:51 |
sc68cal | yeah that sounds good, I'll keep you in the loop | 18:51 |
mlavalle | :-) | 18:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Sandhya Dasu proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Blueprint for ML2 mechanism driver for Cisco UCS Manager https://review.openstack.org/95236 | 19:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Sumit Naiksatam proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Group Policy API-1: EP, EPG, L2 Policy, L3 Policy https://review.openstack.org/95900 | 19:06 |
sbfox | Hey neutroners, can someone have some time to talk private about haproxy LBaaS? | 19:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Allow to delegate some vlan provider attributes choice to neutron https://review.openstack.org/71904 | 19:11 |
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enikanorov | sbfox: hi, why talk private? | 19:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Darragh O'Reilly proposed a change to openstack/neutron: linuxbridge-agent: process port updates in the main loop https://review.openstack.org/62875 | 19:27 |
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sbfox | hey enikanorov, mostly because its not a development issue and I didnt wasnt to clutter the room with non-dev chatter | 19:31 |
larsks | sbfox: That's what #openstack is for :) | 19:32 |
sbfox | On my way :) | 19:32 |
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emagana | nati_ueno: ping! | 19:36 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Fix opt helpstring for dhcp_lease_duration https://review.openstack.org/100196 | 20:00 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron-specs: ofagent: port monitoring w/o ovsdb accesses https://review.openstack.org/91742 | 20:19 |
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pcm_ | anyone: I'm still getting Jenkin's failures and having trouble identifying what is wrong from the logs. Can anyone advise? | 20:27 |
enikanorov | pcm_: i'll try | 20:27 |
pcm_ | enikanorov: thanks! http://logs.openstack.org/46/96946/5/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron/ce1f29d/ | 20:28 |
openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove SELECT ... FOR UPDATE usages in ML2 type driver release_segment https://review.openstack.org/100345 | 20:28 |
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pcm_ | enikanorov: On one of the Jenkins runs, I see these messages in setup log "fatal: Couldn't find remote ref refs/zuul/master/Z52d622fdd9914217a6e40ca6f41b751b" | 20:33 |
pcm_ | enikanorov: other logs show neutron didn't start, but I can see what failed. | 20:33 |
enikanorov | pcm_: yep, neutron didn't start, i'm trying to find out why | 20:34 |
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pcm_ | enikanorov: I couldn't figure out why. Seems like it is loading the VPN plugin's service driver and that's all I see. | 20:34 |
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pcm_ | enikanorov: In the dsvm-full test, it hase the above fatal remote ref messages in setup log. | 20:35 |
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enikanorov | pcm_: i think generic driver loading mechanism doesn't support passing additional parameter that you've added | 20:36 |
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pcm_ | enikanorov: Where do you see that added parameter? I'm looking through change set and I don't think I changed the loading mechanism. | 20:39 |
pcm_ | enikanorov: Unless I'm missing something. | 20:40 |
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enikanorov | pcm_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96946/5/neutron/services/vpn/service_drivers/__init__.py | 20:40 |
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enikanorov | line 33 | 20:40 |
marun | kevinbenton: ping | 20:41 |
marun | kevinbenton: re: your comments here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96050/7/neutron/tests/unit/db/grouppolicy/test_db_grouppolicy.py | 20:41 |
kevinbenton | marun: yeah? | 20:41 |
kevinbenton | marun: is that something we want to go away from? | 20:41 |
pcm_ | enikanorov: Oh. I was thinking "importing" of driver. So you mean init. | 20:41 |
marun | kevinbenton: I thought so, but I'm wondering where your argument regarding ease of assertion fits into my thinking. | 20:42 |
marun | kevinbenton: I wouldn't think that we'd have to do so much lifecycle testing that the added complexity of a context manager could be justified. | 20:42 |
marun | kevinbenton: but maybe I'm missing something? | 20:42 |
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kevinbenton | marun: well i just preferred writing those when doing unit tests creating ports, networks, routers, etc | 20:44 |
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kevinbenton | marun: but i suppose i can just explicitly call delete | 20:44 |
marun | kevinbenton: I think deletion should be required only in specific circumstances, rather than pervasively. | 20:45 |
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marun | kevinbenton: have you found that you're requiring deletion to be performed more commonly? | 20:45 |
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pcm_ | enikanorov: not sure I understand what is wrong. I added another arg, of which each sub-class that implement the ABC provide that arg. | 20:46 |
pcm_ | enikanorov: by creating an instance of a validator object. | 20:46 |
marun | kevinbenton: (this presupposes that I fix the tests to clean up after themselves rather than requiring explicit deletion, e.g. via a per-test transaction that gets rolled back) | 20:46 |
kevinbenton | marun: it was nice when verifying rollback logic during various cases | 20:47 |
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marun | kevinbenton: do you have an example? | 20:47 |
enikanorov | pcm_: you're right | 20:48 |
marun | kevinbenton: My aversion to the way contextmanager is used right now is because it adds to the cost of already expensive functional testing. | 20:48 |
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marun | kevinbenton: if a deletion were explicit, I think the cost would be obvious. | 20:49 |
openstackgerrit | Soheil Eizadi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Pluggable IPAM Subsystem in Neutron https://review.openstack.org/97967 | 20:51 |
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kevinbenton | marun: no, actually it doesn’t look like a made any useful assertions outside of the context about the object it created | 20:52 |
enikanorov | pcm_: it seems to me that neutron hangs during loading | 20:53 |
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kevinbenton | marun: so then the only useful advantage was that it guarunteed objects were deletable | 20:53 |
kevinbenton | marun: which probably isn’t worth the cost then | 20:53 |
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pcm_ | enikanorov: Yeah, the dsvm full seems to hang with VPN loading, but I can't figure out why. | 20:53 |
marun | kevinbenton: it can always be explicitly done if required, but always deleting is unnecessary since the db state is reset for each test | 20:53 |
marun | kevinbenton: I'm going to -1 and ask for removal of contextmanager from the patch. | 20:54 |
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kevinbenton | marun: well those are different because removing directly from the db doesn’t exercise the delete code | 20:54 |
kevinbenton | marun: so people will just have to remember to write tests that actually exercise the delete path | 20:54 |
marun | kevinbenton: so there should be tests that validate deletion | 20:55 |
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marun | kevinbenton: right | 20:55 |
enikanorov | pcm_: not clear to me either. I'll look tomorrow once more | 20:55 |
marun | kevinbenton: good point, though. I'll make sure my comment reflects the need for explicit testing of deletion. | 20:55 |
pcm_ | enikanorov: Thanks. I'll try to bring up at Neutron Open discussion. | 20:55 |
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kevinbenton | marun: the deletion tests will have to cover all of the scenarios with dependent objects that these tend to end up doing as well | 20:56 |
enikanorov | pcm_: i'd not bring it to open discussion as it seems to be a problem of particular patch ;) | 20:56 |
kevinbenton | marun: e.g. deleting a network with a router attached, etc | 20:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove SELECT ... FOR UPDATE usages in ML2 type driver release_segment https://review.openstack.org/100345 | 20:57 |
marun | kevinbenton: *sigh* | 20:57 |
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pcm_ | enikanorov: Just a request for help. | 20:57 |
kevinbenton | marun: it’s fine. it’s probably better to be explicit about these tests anyway | 20:57 |
pcm_ | enikanorov: Also, that patch is a WIP and I'd like to get feedback on whether the approach is OK, before doing more. | 20:57 |
kevinbenton | marun: not just have them be a hidden side effect of another test | 20:58 |
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marun | kevinbenton: I think explicit will be better, but it's painful for me to contemplate how much of the existing testing is implicit. | 20:58 |
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kevinbenton | marun: we’ll just have to have a context removal hackathon | 20:59 |
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marun | kevinbenton: hah | 20:59 |
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kevinbenton | marun: it’s too bad. i like the context style… | 21:00 |
marun | kevinbenton: it's neat, but not really necessary for what we're doing. | 21:02 |
openstackgerrit | Praneet Bachheti proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Opencontrail plug-in implementation for core resources https://review.openstack.org/96630 | 21:02 |
marun | kevinbenton: as per the retargetable poc, there are different requirements for testing interface vs testing via rest, and it's not helpful to bake in the assumption that cleanup is required. | 21:03 |
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marun | kevinbenton: it is required for REST, but not for local testing where db state can be reset | 21:03 |
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kevinbenton | marun: even though the context managers are calling the rest api :-) | 21:05 |
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marun | kevinbenton: ambigious term, sorry | 21:06 |
marun | kevinbenton: deployed rest vs local rest? | 21:06 |
marun | kevinbenton: confusing :/ | 21:06 |
kevinbenton | marun: yeah | 21:08 |
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kevinbenton | marun: i’m going to propose a patch to move them from context managers into decorators | 21:09 |
ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: what's your timezone? I would like to sync up with you on locks issues tomorrow (need general advice) | 21:09 |
marun | kevinbenton: ? | 21:09 |
kevinbenton | marun: would that help? :-) | 21:09 |
marun | kevinbenton: I'm not sure what 'them' you're referring to | 21:09 |
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kevinbenton | marun: the test objects | 21:10 |
kevinbenton | marun: so you just decorate each test with all of the objects that you want created for the test… | 21:10 |
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marun | kevinbenton: oh :p | 21:10 |
marun | kevinbenton: heh | 21:10 |
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salv-orlando | ihrachyska: I’m CET - but I might be offline tomorrow between 10 AM and 12 PM | 21:11 |
kevinbenton | marun: i wonder if a good start would be setting no_delete to True on most of the uses that don’t appear to be doing anything that requires delete | 21:11 |
salv-orlando | CET for this week - BST usually | 21:11 |
marun | kevinbenton: sadly that won't work | 21:11 |
marun | kevinbenton: there is no guarantee of the uniqueness of resources | 21:12 |
ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: great, thanks. same as mine :) | 21:12 |
openstackgerrit | Arvind Somya proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: ML2 Type drivers refactor to allow extensiblity https://review.openstack.org/91811 | 21:12 |
kevinbenton | marun: oh, i thought the db was currently rebuilt for each test | 21:12 |
marun | kevinbenton: and some tests depend on automatic deletion - when it's removed then they start failing due to duplicattion errors | 21:12 |
marun | kevinbenton: it is, but some tests use the creation methods more than once | 21:13 |
marun | kevinbenton: a good example of bad decisions snowballing | 21:13 |
kevinbenton | marun: oh yes, that’s what i mean. the majority of them will be fine though | 21:13 |
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kevinbenton | marun: based on what i remember seeing | 21:13 |
marun | kevinbenton: true, just that the cases that aren't are pretty annoying | 21:14 |
marun | kevinbenton: I started work on that but have been sidetracked | 21:14 |
marun | kevinbenton: I'd be very happy if you you want to take it over and remove contextmanager, | 21:14 |
marun | kevinbenton: it's the first step in switching to using transactions instead of db resets on every test, and should decrease test execution time all by itself | 21:15 |
openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove SELECT ... FOR UPDATE usages in ML2 type driver release_segment https://review.openstack.org/100345 | 21:16 |
kevinbenton | marun: i have a busy couple of weeks though so i’m not sure i will make it to that. | 21:16 |
marun | kevinbenton: fair enough. how about we reach out to the other if either of us ends up finding time so that we don't duplicate? | 21:17 |
kevinbenton | marun: sounds good. i might get some time middle of this week so i’ll ping you if i do | 21:17 |
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zzelle_ | amotoki_, hi | 21:18 |
marun | kevinbenton: I'll be on pto from Wed till next Mon, so go ahead if you have the time. | 21:19 |
kevinbenton | marun: ok | 21:19 |
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amotoki_ | zzelle_: hi | 21:23 |
zzelle_ | amotoki_, i updated https://review.openstack.org/76685 on patch port interconnection in order to correct conflicts with last merges in master branch | 21:24 |
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zzelle_ | amotoki_, if you have time to look ... it is a bit a mess to update associated modified tests :s | 21:28 |
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amotoki_ | zzelle_: will look it later today. | 21:29 |
zzelle_ | amotoki_, thanks fro your time | 21:30 |
zzelle_ | s/fro/for/ | 21:30 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Big Switch: Add missing data to topology sync https://review.openstack.org/98855 | 21:32 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Introduce RpcCallback class https://review.openstack.org/96792 | 21:32 |
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Sukhdev | salv-orlando: Ping | 22:06 |
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salv-orlando | Hi Sukhdev | 22:10 |
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Sukhdev | salv-orlando: saw your comments on my BP - thanks | 22:10 |
salv-orlando | it’s just pedantry | 22:11 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: See if you agree/accept my answers - especially the one you need a shot of scotch :-) | 22:11 |
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Sukhdev | salv-orlando: here is the link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97125/2 | 22:12 |
salv-orlando | Sukdev: red wine more than scotch in that case. “Arista” is pretty much the italian name for the pork roast | 22:16 |
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ihrachyshka | kevinbenton: hi. I saw your email re: CentOS packaging for neutron. I'm a neutron packager for redhat, so I may ask people around why that's done as it is now. | 22:21 |
ihrachyshka | kevinbenton: instead of installing brocade code when installing ML2 package, wouldn't it be more correct to avoid installing any ML2 brocade stuff with pure ML2 package and move the ML2 brocade specific code to brocade plugin package itself? | 22:22 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: Wow!! really? I did not know that - I knew it was Italian, but, did not know it meant port roast | 22:22 |
salv-orlando | Sukhdev: not literally. It’s a piece of pork meat used to do pork roast. and the roast then takes the name from the meat. | 22:23 |
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Sukhdev | salv-orlando: what does arastra mean in Italian? | 22:24 |
salv-orlando | arastra? never heard such word - at least spelled in this way | 22:26 |
kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: the drivers are expected to be in the ml2 folder | 22:26 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: moving everything to the plugin folder doesn’t really make sense because it is supposed to be a driver that runs in ML2 | 22:27 |
ihrachyshka | kevinbenton: sorry. can you show specific files that do not belong to proper place? | 22:27 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: ah ha…our original name was Arastra, and was changed to Arista - so, I thought both would mean something in Italian :-) | 22:27 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: https://github.com/bigswitch/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/mech_bigswitch/driver.py#L30 | 22:28 |
kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: that driver uses the same servermanager module and base class as the plugin | 22:29 |
salv-orlando | Sukhdev: or probably they both were not mean to mean anything in Italian | 22:29 |
salv-orlando | maybe that’s some old Sanscrite word | 22:29 |
ihrachyshka | aha, I see. so how about moving that file to openstack-neutron-brocade package? in that case, those files won't clutter systems that don't use brocade, and at the same time allow anyone willing to use brocade to install one additional package and have all in place | 22:30 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: well, I leave it as mystery in that case --- since you picked up on Arista, I thought you may find some connection :_) | 22:30 |
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ihrachyshka | kevinbenton: honestly, I don't packagers that set all as it is now long time ago, payed too much attention to each ml2 plugin file. Instead, plugins were just split based on their top level path: neutron/plugins/$plugin_name results in openstack-neutron-$plugin_name package | 22:32 |
ihrachyshka | s/I don't/I don't think | 22:32 |
kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: right, and that’s why i sent the email. I just assumed they were not interested in special-casing the bigswitch plugin | 22:33 |
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salv-orlando | Sukhdev: for what is worth it appears to mean “Security” in Sanskrit. http://www.babynology.com/meaning-arista-m55.html - and my bit of research for today is done. | 22:34 |
ihrachyshka | kevinbenton: I would say, that's 1) not known to d/s - you may just report a bug 2) not in high priority list. But we'll be glad to handle your case once we have spare cycles | 22:34 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: :-) | 22:35 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: isn't almost midnight for you? have a good night... | 22:36 |
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karimb | hey buddies, the qg interfaces of my router dont show either in br-int or br-ex, they show as tap devices there....is it normal? | 22:41 |
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marun | salv-orlando: ping | 22:42 |
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marun | salv-orlando: so is this ready to merge? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95738 | 22:44 |
marun | salv-orlando: I have a few comments but nothing too critical | 22:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed a change to openstack/neutron: NSX: revert queue extension name change https://review.openstack.org/99483 | 22:49 |
openstackgerrit | Soheil Eizadi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Pluggable IPAM Subsystem in Neutron https://review.openstack.org/97967 | 22:49 |
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salv-orlando | marun: I think they’re reasonable questions. I or jlibosva will address them tomorrow morning. I think it’s pretty much bed time for both of us | 22:56 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Copy-paste RPC Service class for backwards compatibility https://review.openstack.org/97289 | 23:11 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Introduced rpc_compat.create_connection() https://review.openstack.org/97290 | 23:11 |
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