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openstackgerrit | nlahouti proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Support for extensions in ML2 https://review.openstack.org/89211 | 00:46 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: NSX: Correct default timeout params https://review.openstack.org/106494 | 02:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Robert Kukura proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Group Policy Mapping API-1: EP, EPG, L2 Policy, L3 Policy https://review.openstack.org/100716 | 03:02 |
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nlahouti | Hi All, How to submit code for review if the patch depends on other patch under review? based on Gerrit wiki 'git review -d $PARENT_CHANGE_NUMBER' should be used but it doesn't work. | 03:11 |
nlahouti | Any help appreciated. | 03:11 |
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openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ofagent: Remove network_delete method https://review.openstack.org/110188 | 03:13 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/111525 | 03:24 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/111631 | 03:28 |
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yamamoto | nlahouti: how doesn't it work? it has worked for me. | 03:35 |
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nlahouti | yamamoto: I created a directory and used that command and don't see anything exist locally. | 03:36 |
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nlahouti | yamamoto: Am I missing any step? | 03:37 |
yamamoto | nlahouti: you should do it in a working tree | 03:37 |
openstackgerrit | Robert Kukura proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Group Policy Mapping DB-1: EP, EPG, L2 Policy, L3 Policy https://review.openstack.org/101795 | 03:38 |
nlahouti | yamamoto: should I clone first? | 03:38 |
yamamoto | nlahouti: yes | 03:39 |
nlahouti | yamamoto: and then the git review -d .... | 03:39 |
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yamamoto | nlahouti: yes. you need "Project Setup" step on the wiki first. | 03:41 |
openstackgerrit | fumihiko kakuma proposed a change to openstack/neutron: OFAgent: Implement arp responder https://review.openstack.org/94183 | 03:43 |
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nlahouti | yamamoto: thx for the info. I'm trying it now. | 03:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Robert Kukura proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Group Policy Mapping Plugin-1: EP, EPG, L2 Policy, L3 Policy https://review.openstack.org/101957 | 03:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Robert Kukura proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Group Policy: Implicit Policy Driver https://review.openstack.org/104727 | 03:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Robert Kukura proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Group Policy: Resource Mapping Driver https://review.openstack.org/105272 | 04:23 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/111547 | 06:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed a change to openstack/neutron: l3_db: refactor L3_NAT_DB_mixin https://review.openstack.org/108728 | 06:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Praneet Bachheti proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Opencontrail plug-in implementation for core resources https://review.openstack.org/96630 | 07:07 |
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openstackgerrit | fumihiko kakuma proposed a change to openstack/neutron: OFAgent: Implement arp responder https://review.openstack.org/94183 | 07:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Preeti Mirji proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Admin should not be able to use tenant's rule https://review.openstack.org/108952 | 07:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed a change to openstack/neutron: l3_db: refactor L3_NAT_DB_mixin https://review.openstack.org/108728 | 07:32 |
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krypto | what is the need of ebtable rule to block arp request/response of ip address assigned on bridge? | 08:14 |
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openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Allow filtering routers by network-ids https://review.openstack.org/111580 | 08:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed a change to openstack/neutron: l3_db: refactor L3_NAT_DB_mixin https://review.openstack.org/108728 | 08:34 |
enikanorov__ | ihrachyshka__: hey, could you please approve a patch to stable: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110642/ | 08:36 |
ihrachyshka__ | enikanorov_we're in stable freeze now, so we need to ask for permission to push it in stable maint ML | 08:38 |
ihrachyshka__ | enikanorov__: see '[openstack-dev] Preparing for 2014.1.2 -- branches freeze Aug 7' in openstack-dev | 08:39 |
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enikanorov__ | ihrachyshka__: thanks for letting me know. should I ask the permission in that thread? | 08:39 |
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ihrachyshka__ | enikanorov__: no, you should use openstack-stable-maint@lists.openstack.org | 08:40 |
ihrachyshka__ | enikanorov__: + 'above relates only to freeze | 08:40 |
ihrachyshka__ | exceptions for critical issues which must be raised and discussed on | 08:40 |
ihrachyshka__ | openstack-stable-maint list. Hopefully there won't be any.' | 08:40 |
ihrachyshka__ | meaning, only critical stuff is now allowed in | 08:40 |
enikanorov__ | well, ironically, the issue is quite critical | 08:40 |
ihrachyshka__ | so you should provide details on why it's that way | 08:40 |
enikanorov__ | yep, i can do that | 08:40 |
ihrachyshka__ | np, just letting you know :_ | 08:40 |
enikanorov__ | so, the thing is that quite important migration has never been run for the default opensource core plugin (ML2) | 08:41 |
enikanorov__ | but it always worked in the gate because of LBaaS plugin | 08:41 |
enikanorov__ | that triggered it | 08:41 |
enikanorov__ | so any deployment, that doesn't use lbaas... ... | 08:41 |
ihrachyshka__ | enikanorov__: sounds like critical. just send a request to that ML, I think it'll go. | 08:43 |
enikanorov__ | ihrachyshka__: we actually tried to fix that quite a while ago in the master, but the patch was abandoned (the scope was bigger) | 08:44 |
enikanorov__ | ihrachyshka__: thanks for help! | 08:44 |
ihrachyshka__ | any time | 08:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Ilya Shakhat proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix listing security group rules https://review.openstack.org/95990 | 09:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Feng Xi Yan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2 Mechanism Driver for vCenter DVS port group creation https://review.openstack.org/111227 | 10:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Feng Xi Yan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2 Mechanism Driver for vCenter DVS port group creation https://review.openstack.org/111227 | 10:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Feng Xi Yan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2 Mechanism Driver for vCenter DVS port group creation https://review.openstack.org/111227 | 10:25 |
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salv-orlando | ZZelle: You have a rather pedant -1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77578/10 - if you can quickly address it I can +2 the patch again. Sorry for bothering you but I’d like to see this kind of patches merges as soon as possible. | 11:11 |
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openstackgerrit | fumihiko kakuma proposed a change to openstack/neutron: OFAgent: Implement arp responder https://review.openstack.org/94183 | 11:16 |
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ZZelle | salv-orlando, hi | 11:22 |
ZZelle | salv-orlando, me too ... these patchset was more to check i did not miss code/test updates | 11:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: OVS flows apply concurrently using a deferred OVSBridge https://review.openstack.org/77578 | 11:33 |
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ZZelle | salv-orlando, thanks for your +2! | 11:53 |
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salv-orlando | ZZelle: sorry I removed it temporarily as I’m waiting for jenkins to +1 first It’s just a formality. | 11:54 |
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ZZelle | salv-orlando, , nopb | 11:54 |
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ZZelle | salv-orlando, one question | 12:04 |
ZZelle | salv-orlando, xml support will be removed for Kilo? | 12:04 |
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ZZelle | yamamoto, hi | 12:17 |
yamamoto | ZZelle: hi | 12:18 |
ZZelle | one question about your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77578/11/neutron/agent/l2population_rpc.py | 12:18 |
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ZZelle | "represent the bridge on which add_fdb_flow should be applied" is better? | 12:20 |
yamamoto | ZZelle: sounds better | 12:20 |
ZZelle | is it fine to currently use slef.tun_br in ofagent? | 12:20 |
data` | when using neutron & ml2 with vxlan, do I need to configure the OVS plugin in plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini? | 12:20 |
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yamamoto | ZZelle: yes | 12:21 |
data` | because ovs is a driver for ml2, not a plugin to neutron anymore, as far as I understand | 12:21 |
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yamamoto | ZZelle: but i'm happier if you make it use the passed br | 12:22 |
ZZelle | ok, will do | 12:22 |
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yamamoto | ZZelle: thank you! | 12:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Evgeny Fedoruk proposed a change to openstack/neutron: L7 capability extension implementation for lbaas v2 https://review.openstack.org/111706 | 12:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add a tox test environment for random hashseed testing https://review.openstack.org/111711 | 12:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Ilya Shakhat proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make log level in linux.utils.execute configurable https://review.openstack.org/111715 | 13:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Evgeny Fedoruk proposed a change to openstack/neutron: L7 capability extension implementation for lbaas v2 https://review.openstack.org/111706 | 13:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: OVS flows apply concurrently using a deferred OVSBridge https://review.openstack.org/77578 | 13:11 |
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data` | when using neutron & ml2 with vxlan, do I need to configure the OVS plugin in plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini? | 13:16 |
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salv-orlando | ZZelle: your patience is admirable. | 13:22 |
ZZelle | salv-orlando, thanks :) | 13:24 |
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salv-orlando | ZZelle: I’m going to put a -1 in your patch with the following comment: “Can your reword your comments using alternate rhyme” | 13:24 |
ZZelle | salv-orlando, you can ask for it ... only ask | 13:27 |
salv-orlando | ZZelle: nah… on the openstack profile page there’s written where I live. | 13:27 |
salv-orlando | you might come round my place with a shotgun if I did that | 13:28 |
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ZZelle | salv-orlando, not a shotgun only my keyboard ... keyboards are allowed in planes! | 13:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Bradley Klein proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Add keystone v3 auth support https://review.openstack.org/92390 | 13:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Ilya Shakhat proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make log level in linux.utils.execute configurable https://review.openstack.org/111715 | 14:03 |
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data` | when using neutron & ml2 with vxlan, do I need to configure the OVS plugin in plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini? | 14:05 |
openstackgerrit | Ilya Shakhat proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make log level in linux.utils.execute configurable https://review.openstack.org/111715 | 14:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Change autogenerate to be unconditional https://review.openstack.org/108700 | 14:17 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-neutronclient: Introduce shadow resources for NeutronCommands https://review.openstack.org/111473 | 14:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Avishay Balderman proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Radware: When a pip is needed, reuse the Port https://review.openstack.org/110326 | 14:44 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-neutronclient: Add option for retry number of connection attempts https://review.openstack.org/90104 | 14:48 |
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enikanorov_ | markmcclain: hi. would you be able to make a progress with flavor's specthis week https://review.openstack.org/102723 ? | 14:49 |
markmcclain | enikanorov_: forthcoming | 14:49 |
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enikanorov_ | let me know if you don't have free cycles | 14:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: WIP: Add network_device_mtu value to dnsmasq options file https://review.openstack.org/111748 | 14:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed a change to openstack/neutron: add auth token to context https://review.openstack.org/111756 | 14:59 |
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ZangMingJie | hi mark, would you please remove -2 from this patch, as the related bp has been approved. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78946/ | 15:01 |
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openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Allow filtering routers by network-ids https://review.openstack.org/111580 | 15:15 |
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openstackgerrit | nlahouti proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Cisco DFA ML2 Mechanism Driver - Part 3 https://review.openstack.org/111761 | 15:21 |
mestery | otherwiseguy: If you're around, look at this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111139/ | 15:22 |
mestery | otherwiseguy: Seems as if ofagent is moving in the opposite direction as the work you're doing, and I wonder why. | 15:22 |
otherwiseguy | mestery: will do. btw, I hope to at least post a WIP version of the ovsdbification patch today. | 15:23 |
mestery | otherwiseguy: Awesome, please do, I want to test that out. :) | 15:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Avishay Balderman proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Radware: When a pip is needed, reuse the Port https://review.openstack.org/110326 | 15:27 |
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mestery | enikanorov_: Did you see my email about the bug squashing day for Neutron? Any input on that? I'd like to get that rolling for this week if possible. | 15:29 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/111631 | 15:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Change autogenerate to be unconditional https://review.openstack.org/108700 | 15:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Fix a typo. https://review.openstack.org/111765 | 15:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Fix capitalization error. https://review.openstack.org/111766 | 15:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Roey Chen proposed a change to openstack/neutron: MLNX Agent: ensure removed ports get treated on resyncs https://review.openstack.org/94888 | 15:52 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron-specs: Fix a typo. https://review.openstack.org/111765 | 16:14 |
enikanorov_ | mestery: not yet, i'll look and reply, thanks! | 16:19 |
mestery | enikanorov_: Thanks sir! | 16:19 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron-specs: Fix capitalization error. https://review.openstack.org/111766 | 16:19 |
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gangil | salv-orlando: are you around? I had a few doubts regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111113/ | 16:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Preserve link local IP allocations for DVR fip ns across restart https://review.openstack.org/109486 | 16:29 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: OFAgent: Implement arp responder https://review.openstack.org/94183 | 16:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Manish Godara proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: metadata spec https://review.openstack.org/103699 | 16:56 |
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salv-orlando | gangil: I’m here. What about these doubts? | 16:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Manish Godara proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: metadata spec https://review.openstack.org/103699 | 16:59 |
gangil | salv-orlando: So regarding logging.logging usage. Did you prefer it as assigning logging.logging to a variable say std_log and the using std_log everywhere whereever I need to access the log severity levels? Or should I investiage more if we can expose those levels in the openstack log library? | 17:00 |
salv-orlando | gangil: It’s just about constants… so I guess it’s fine using them from python’s logging module, unless there is a requirement to not use it anymore | 17:00 |
gangil | salv-orlando: in that case I would have to leave the standard import there and going forward people may use it unknowingly. Is that fine? | 17:01 |
gangil | *standard python logging import | 17:01 |
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banix | mestery: kyle, now that the deadline for specs in Juno has passed, where should the new specs (or those that have not been approved for Juno) get submitted (or moved) to? under a yet to be created kilo directory? | 17:02 |
salv-orlando | gangil: I don’t think it will be the end of the world. Pepple can always “unknowingly” import it and use it anyway! gangil: on the other hand we might want to check wehter oslo-incubator thinks it’s ok to define those constans there as well to the openstack’s logging module. | 17:02 |
salv-orlando | If that’s ok you can do a patch there and the the change will be ported into neutron | 17:02 |
mestery | banix: I have intentially not created the directory yet | 17:02 |
salv-orlando | gangil: we can’t do direct changes in neutron.openstack.common | 17:02 |
mestery | banix: I'm hoping (though not expecting) that people will focus on the 81 BPs we hve approved which need some review love :) | 17:03 |
gangil | salv-orlando: I think I will prefer going the oslo-incubator way as that feels more right to me. | 17:03 |
salv-orlando | gangil: makes sense. | 17:03 |
gangil | salv-orlando: thank you! | 17:03 |
banix | mestery: :) yeah just saw someone submitting a new patchset for their spec that has been under review and thought at some point a new directory needs to be created but I understand that we can hold that off for some time. | 17:04 |
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gangil | salv-orlando: Do you know who would be the right person to talk to for discussing changes to the oslo incubator? | 17:07 |
salv-orlando | gangil: 1) jump into #openstack-oslo; 2) check for people who contribute more often to neutron.openstack.common (I’d say ask dhellmann but he’s very busy and for this kind of thing he would probably just refer you to somebody else) | 17:08 |
gangil | salv-orlando: Also another thing that I was wondering was why do we even need to reference log severity levels directly in neutron? Because when we log anything we mention its severity level. like LOG.debug, LOG.warning | 17:08 |
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gangil | and openstack-common logging library handles the level in the internal method implementations | 17:09 |
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salv-orlando | gangil: this happens in a few cases such as logging option values where the conf module requires you to specify a severity | 17:12 |
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gangil | salv-orlando: what about 1. https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/vmware/plugins/base.py#L2085 2. https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/migration/alembic_migrations/heal_script.py#L37 | 17:16 |
gangil | In both these cases we can avoid referencing the log level. | 17:16 |
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salv-orlando | gangil: did you read my comment on heal_script.py? | 17:17 |
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gangil | salv-orlando: yea I did, I didnt understand how would it spew log messages as warnings if we use the right log methods? As I see all the logs in that file use the INFO level. | 17:19 |
gangil | salv-orlando: the only reason I can guess from your comment is alembic internally might be using the standard logging library and this sets its log to INFO as well | 17:21 |
gangil | is that right? | 17:21 |
gangil | In that case I understand it | 17:22 |
gangil | its needed there | 17:22 |
salv-orlando | gangil: this was addressed during the review process. I don’t know the details, but as you say the messages were coming directly from alembic | 17:22 |
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salv-orlando | and were beyond our control. | 17:22 |
gangil | salv-orlando: sounds right. This just gives me a good reason to expose those log levels in oslo log library | 17:23 |
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openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ofagent: Stop monitoring ovsdb for port changes https://review.openstack.org/111139 | 17:23 |
openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ofagent: Desupport ancillary bridges https://review.openstack.org/110209 | 17:23 |
gangil | salv-orlando: thanks! | 17:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Trinath Somanchi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Freescale FWaaS Plugin https://review.openstack.org/109659 | 17:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Preserve link local IP allocations for DVR fip ns across restart https://review.openstack.org/109486 | 18:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Use root_helper when checking namespace existence https://review.openstack.org/109736 | 19:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Ilya Shakhat proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix unit tests to succeed on any PYTHONHASHSEED https://review.openstack.org/110991 | 19:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make _build_uri_path output predictable https://review.openstack.org/111809 | 19:40 |
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abrimer_ | I have a question regarding neutron and gre, can anyone help? | 19:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Improve external gateway update handling https://review.openstack.org/109776 | 19:58 |
openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Simple refactor to stop passing around an unused parameter https://review.openstack.org/111813 | 19:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Use root_helper when checking namespace existence https://review.openstack.org/109736 | 20:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Big Switch: Only update hash header on success https://review.openstack.org/109695 | 20:16 |
kevinbenton | mestery: i accidentally clicked rebase ^^ :-( | 20:17 |
kevinbenton | mestery: no confirmation box or anything… | 20:18 |
mestery | kevinbenton: Well, that sucks :( | 20:18 |
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kevinbenton | no conflict or anything so it should be good. ill ping when jenkins votes so you can re-approve | 20:18 |
mestery | kevinbenton: Ack | 20:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Rename workers to api_workers and simplify code https://review.openstack.org/72564 | 20:25 |
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markmcclain | mestery: would like to add this to agenda today: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/041863.html | 20:32 |
mestery | markmcclain: looking | 20:33 |
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mestery | markmcclain: Can you add that in there, maybe in the "Team Discussion" section? | 20:34 |
markmcclain | will do | 20:35 |
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openstackgerrit | pritesh proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Do not assume order of network_uuid's https://review.openstack.org/111822 | 20:45 |
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openstackgerrit | nlahouti proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Cisco DFA ML2 Mechanism Driver https://review.openstack.org/103281 | 21:02 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Do not assume order of quotas dictionary elements https://review.openstack.org/111589 | 21:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make _build_uri_path output predictable https://review.openstack.org/111809 | 21:11 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/111525 | 21:13 |
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openstackgerrit | pritesh proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Do not assume order of network_uuid's https://review.openstack.org/111822 | 21:13 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Add a tox test environment for random hashseed testing https://review.openstack.org/111711 | 21:17 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: ofagent: Desupport ancillary bridges https://review.openstack.org/110209 | 21:22 |
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openstackgerrit | pritesh proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Do not assume order of pci slot list https://review.openstack.org/111835 | 21:26 |
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ZZelle_ | lifeless, hi | 21:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Ronak Shah proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Adding mechanism driver in ML2 plugin for Nuage Networks https://review.openstack.org/111066 | 21:52 |
openstackgerrit | Bradley Klein proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Add keystone v3 auth support https://review.openstack.org/92390 | 21:53 |
lifeless | ZZelle_: hi | 21:53 |
ZZelle_ | lifeless, i don't know why but gerrit no more auto-abandon old changes | 21:54 |
ZZelle_ | lifeless, so could you abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108494/? and update its associated bug? | 21:54 |
lifeless | ZZelle_: I haven't verified it yet | 21:55 |
lifeless | ZZelle_: sorry | 21:55 |
ZZelle_ | lifeless, nopb | 21:55 |
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aleksandr_null | Hi guys! | 22:01 |
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amotoki | mestery: I have a question on LBaaS v1 deprecation. I see neutron client patch of LBaaS v2 is trying to add “deprecated” keyword to LBaaS v1 API. | 22:04 |
mestery | amotoki: Not for Juno it shouldn't | 22:05 |
openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove routers from down l3 agents https://review.openstack.org/110893 | 22:05 |
amotoki | mestery: thanks. that is same as what I understand. LBaaS v1 APi is stable until v2 becomes mature. | 22:06 |
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mestery | amotoki: ++ | 22:06 |
* regXboi wonders if any discussion will continue here or not | 22:07 | |
amotoki | mestery: FYI/ this is the patch I am talking about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111475/ | 22:07 |
kevinbenton | regXboi: i think everyone is waiting for someone else to continue :-) | 22:07 |
regXboi | so... I'll follow up one statement I made | 22:07 |
regXboi | which is that (imho) openstack is riding a wave | 22:07 |
regXboi | and that if it doesn't keep up with the speed of innovation of that wave, it becomes less and less relevant | 22:08 |
regXboi | because the wave passes it by and folks code ahead/around it | 22:08 |
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* banix is happy he didn’t change his vaction plans (speaking of waves makes you think of your vacation i suppose) | 22:10 | |
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kevinbenton | regXboi: it seems the discussion is not continuing here :-) | 22:13 |
s3wong | kevinbenton: yeah, many people left the channel | 22:13 |
regXboi | nope... oh well - I need to go help with food here so I'll have to disappear | 22:13 |
regXboi | I'll look to the ML | 22:13 |
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blogan | amotoki: i believe craigtracey is modifying the review to reflect your comments | 22:15 |
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amotoki | blogan: thanks. I just want to clarify the status :-) | 22:16 |
blogan | amotoki: np, and thanks for noticing that, we have a similar issue with the doc change | 22:16 |
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amotoki | blogan: perhaps we need to mention which LBaaS API is currently stable, experimental, deprecated clearly in both doc and CLI. | 22:18 |
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blogan | amotoki: definitely, i was thinking tagging the v2 with "experiemental" or "beta" or something like that | 22:18 |
blogan | in the docs | 22:18 |
amotoki | blogan: sounds nice. | 22:19 |
blogan | amotoki: would the proper word be experiemental or beta or something else? | 22:19 |
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amotoki | blogan: I am not sure what word is proper. I think "experimental" is usually used in the community. This phase of the API may change. | 22:21 |
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blogan | amotoki: okay thanks! | 22:22 |
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amotoki | blogan: in my understanding, we can have two stable APIs at the same time and after that the old one will be marked as deprecated. | 22:23 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: ping | 22:23 |
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blogan | amotoki: yeah and that makes sense, v2 should be stable for K | 22:23 |
salv-orlando | hi kevinbenton how can I help you? | 22:24 |
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kevinbenton | just wanted to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108598/ here where we have a little faster turn around | 22:24 |
kevinbenton | can you read my last comment and let me know what you think? | 22:24 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: also, let me know if you would prefer I didn’t bother you on IRC about reviews. I know most reviewers have an order they usually process reviews in | 22:27 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: you can bother me no worries. In most cases you don’t get a reply from em because you ping me in the middle of the night... | 22:28 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: oh, yeah. But you keep an IRC schedule that’s hard for me to understand so I just ping whenever :-) | 22:29 |
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salv-orlando | anyway regrding your bug I think the statement is correct… in most deployment you don’t want to run the neutron service user with admin rights.. My comment was that in your case you would have anohter role for the neutron service user and then you’d just pust that role in policy.json. The approach of explicitly declaring neutron’s user name is fine anyway, but even in that case I would consider ensuring hte user name is pushed in | 22:31 |
salv-orlando | the context and therefore we won’t need a different policty type. In that case we’d just have somehting like user_id=xxx just like we do with tenant_id | 22:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Praneet Bachheti proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Opencontrail plug-in implementation for core resources https://review.openstack.org/96630 | 22:34 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: but that requires a deployment specific policy.json, right? | 22:43 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i would like to avoid that so it’s easy for deployment tools (even devstack) to be adjusted to not give neutron the admin role | 22:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: OVS flows apply concurrently using a deferred OVSBridge https://review.openstack.org/77578 | 22:48 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: I would not, and therefore I do not see the need to modifiy the default context_is_admin rule. But this is subjective. All that I can say is having the ability of authorizing by user name is probably useful, but not necessary. | 22:49 |
salv-orlando | ZZelle_: I think your patch will never merge. | 22:50 |
salv-orlando | it’s cursed | 22:50 |
ZZelle_ | salv-orlando, yep, perhaps during next design summit :) | 22:51 |
salv-orlando | ZZelle_: I think the next time we’ll send it through the gate, zuul will crash | 22:51 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: ok. but neutron doesn’t even work if the user it is using is not an admin in neutron’s eyes so to speak | 22:52 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: ok… so the claim is that the current policy.json is pretty much broken. In this case is different. | 22:52 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: check out the failures on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108167/ | 22:53 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: that’s what happens if you use a service role that doesn’t look like an admin to neutron | 22:54 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: It might be just my brain desiring to shut off now, but I feel like you want the problem to be solved and be solved with the default setting. | 22:54 |
salv-orlando | so you want this to work “by default” | 22:55 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: yes | 22:55 |
salv-orlando | what I do not understand is why is that so important | 22:55 |
salv-orlando | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108167/1/lib/neutron says “neutron user is not admin" | 22:56 |
salv-orlando | which is ok… and then you want to make it work with the default policy,json file saying that in neutorn you can an dmin if you’re an admin or that user I gave the neutron service role | 22:57 |
salv-orlando | I think in the same devstack patch it should be possible to modify policy.json to specify the appropriate role in context_is_admin rule | 22:58 |
ZZelle_ | kevinbenton, salv-orlando, IMHO, we should not enable such behavior by default for security purposes | 22:58 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: it seems broken to me to have to modify policy.json just to be secure | 22:58 |
kevinbenton | ZZelle_: what behavior? | 22:58 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: that does not seem broken to me. But again I understand this is arguable. | 22:59 |
ZZelle_ | kevinbenton, allowing a nonadmin to be considered as an admin | 22:59 |
kevinbenton | ZZelle_: neutron doesn’t work any other way, which is incorrect for a service IMO | 23:00 |
kevinbenton | but I seem to be in the minority here | 23:00 |
salv-orlando | we’re saying differetnt things. | 23:00 |
salv-orlando | ZZelle_ is bringing an argument saying that only an admin should be in the context_is_admin rule | 23:01 |
salv-orlando | which is correct… to an extend | 23:01 |
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salv-orlando | and the extent being that in real deployments every service has its own “service user” which is actually an admin exclusively for this service | 23:01 |
kevinbenton | context_is_admin is to determine if a user can administer neutron, right? | 23:02 |
salv-orlando | on the other hand, I’m just saying I don’t like the check against an explicit user name just to circument the need to edit policy.json | 23:02 |
salv-orlando | which is what I think you’d do anyway in anycase to harden your system | 23:02 |
kevinbenton | what else would you do to policy.json to harden it? | 23:03 |
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kevinbenton | to finish my other statement, I understand context_is_admin to mean that an account can perform administrative tasks in neutron. I don’t see any case where neutron would be configured with a user that can’t perform administrative tasks in neutron | 23:06 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: agreed. I only have one case for that -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108167 | 23:07 |
kevinbenton | So it seems strange that we have to require a deployer to adjust context_is_admin for neutron to work in a secure deployment | 23:07 |
salv-orlando | I was just joking | 23:07 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: so i wanted this because I wanted to make secure deployment as easy as possible | 23:11 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i wasn’t aware of other cases where policy.json had to be adjusted for secure deployments | 23:12 |
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salv-orlando | kevinbenton: I think it’s just something peoplre might normally do. Since none of us can speak as users, let’s leave that aside | 23:12 |
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salv-orlando | let’s get to the meat of your patch: a change in polcy that give admin rights in neutron not only to openstack admins but also to users whose user name matches the name of the user neutron uses to authenticate requests with keystone | 23:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed a change to openstack/neutron: OVS flows apply concurrently using a deferred OVSBridge https://review.openstack.org/77578 | 23:14 |
salv-orlando | since that user can authenticate with keystone it’s worth being considered a neutron admin | 23:15 |
salv-orlando | also the policy.json becomes more secure by adding an “OR” condition on the rule that determines when one has admin rights. | 23:15 |
ZZelle_ | salv-orlando, the match would be on user name or user id? | 23:16 |
salv-orlando | the above two statements would be my concerns on your patch, from a strictly technical perspctive. | 23:16 |
salv-orlando | ZZelle_: user name from what I read | 23:16 |
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ZZelle_ | salv-orlando, so we cannot use such strategy with domains, because user names are no more unique | 23:17 |
salv-orlando | ZZelle_: that might be correct, but I have to confess my ignorance here. | 23:17 |
ZZelle_ | salv-orlando, iirc, keystone v3 ensures name unicity per domain not globally | 23:18 |
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kevinbenton | ZZelle_: I was only using information available in the neutron configuration | 23:19 |
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kevinbenton | ZZelle_: ID is not | 23:19 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: neutron can only function if that user is considered an admin to neutron | 23:20 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: so I don’t see how it’s a reduction in security if that’s what you are implying | 23:20 |
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salv-orlando | kevinbenton: see you’re claiming neutron ihas a model which is actually brooken, becase it won’t work if you configure it to be executed as an user which is not recognized by it as an admin | 23:23 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: I can’t disagree with that. It’s totally right. | 23:23 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: but isn’t that a configuration error in that case? | 23:23 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: anyway, It’s really late for me. It’s pretty clear that you think that policy.json should be resilient to this while I think that policy.json should be explicitly made aware of this | 23:24 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: I see it that I’m making policy.json aware of this :-) | 23:24 |
salv-orlando | I will not block your patch. It won’t be the first time I started arguments and then realized I was wrong all the time. | 23:25 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: well you have a point that it can be fixed with configuration, but I just think it’s a high barrier that most users won’t bother with | 23:25 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: no, you’re making the policy engine resilient to neutron service users with are not admins | 23:25 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i’m making it recognize a new keyword I’m putting in policy.json | 23:26 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: so it’s still explicit in policy.json | 23:26 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: no it’s not. | 23:26 |
salv-orlando | it is not - you are making neutron to implicit consider the keystone client user name as an admin to neutron | 23:26 |
salv-orlando | and we’re discussing from an hour about something that should be tipically handled with a configuration management tool | 23:27 |
salv-orlando | like puppet, chef, or why not, devstack | 23:27 |
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salv-orlando | kevinbenton: but again, it won’t be the first time I turn out to be wrong | 23:27 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: maybe you should just involve somebody else in this discussion from the core team and gauge opinion | 23:27 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: it’s not implicit though, at least i’m not understanding | 23:27 |
salv-orlando | *opinions | 23:27 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: if a user doesn’t like this, they just edit policy.json context_is_admin to the old style | 23:28 |
kevinbenton | i guess it depends on what perspective you view the implicitness from | 23:28 |
salv-orlando | kevinbenton: ok, I see your will to push this is much stronger than my will to reject it | 23:28 |
salv-orlando | I have no further arguments against thi | 23:29 |
salv-orlando | against it. | 23:29 |
kevinbenton | well I’m not seeing fuel and packstack doing the right think here, which is why i started this | 23:29 |
kevinbenton | thing* | 23:29 |
salv-orlando | and the right thing is to consider the user name used to authenticate users with keystone an admin? | 23:30 |
salv-orlando | I mean that does not sound even a wee bit weird to you? is ti just me? | 23:30 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: it would if neutron could function without that user being an admin | 23:30 |
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salv-orlando | kevinbenton: right. | 23:31 |
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salv-orlando | are you aware of other integrated projects having already faced this issue? | 23:32 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: it feels strange to me that we leave something up to configuration that essentially has only one valid value | 23:32 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: no, i haven’t looked yet | 23:32 |
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salv-orlando | kevinbenton: if it has only one valid value let’s hardcode it then | 23:32 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: well that value value is a dynamic pointer :-) | 23:33 |
salv-orlando | hardcode it to a configuration variable | 23:33 |
salv-orlando | oh wait, that’s exactly what you’ve done! | 23:34 |
salv-orlando | doing a complex workaround through the authz policy engine | 23:34 |
salv-orlando | I mean not complex, probably unnecessary | 23:34 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: well i don’t know what to do here then. your view will probably be shared that the users should just make their own policy.json for each deployment | 23:37 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i can file upstream bugs with the deploy tools to construct policy.json | 23:38 |
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ZZelle_ | salv-orlando, on the big integrated projects i know, right management is centralized, finer: you can grant a role to someone on a resource (port for example) for some action (GET for observers VS CRUD for actors) | 23:43 |
ZZelle_ | salv-orlando, and a mess to configure | 23:43 |
openstackgerrit | Paddu Krishnan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: VDP Support in OVS Neutron Agent and Type Driver for Network Overlays https://review.openstack.org/105563 | 23:44 |
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salv-orlando | kevinbenton: just seek somebody else opinion. I would not even take for granted that in a real deployment cfg.CONF.keystone_authtoken.admin_user is a neutron admin. | 23:45 |
salv-orlando | but I am one of 15 core team members. it’s not rare I disagree with others because of my bizarre views. | 23:46 |
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salv-orlando | indeed I should probably not even be part of the core team as I was never elected to the core team ;) | 23:46 |
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salv-orlando | kevinbenton: I know armax, markmcclain at least have previously reviewed patches for the policy engine. rkukura did that too afaict. so I’m not the only one with an informed opinion. | 23:47 |
salv-orlando | perhaps you can try and ping them and see what they reckon. As you might understand I have some technical concerns about the code byt fundamentally I think the bug you filed is not a bug. | 23:48 |
openstackgerrit | nlahouti proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Cisco DFA ML2 Mechanism Driver - Part 4 https://review.openstack.org/111863 | 23:48 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: isn’t it at least a bug that neutron can’t function without context_is_admin internally? | 23:50 |
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kevinbenton | salv-orlando: maybe a better fix would be to allow internal requests to be given admin privileges without modifying the policy? | 23:51 |
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salv-orlando | kevinbenton: your statement is not complete. it would be complete if you say <<neutron cant’ function with the default policy settings if its service user’s roles do not include “admin” >> | 23:51 |
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salv-orlando | kevinbenton: I am going to bed… I won’t respond to other messages. I just wanted to tell you so you won’t think I’m ignoring you. Goddnight! | 23:56 |
openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make _build_uri_path output predictable https://review.openstack.org/111809 | 23:56 |
salv-orlando | if you feel that’s the case share your thoguhts on the mailing list. | 23:56 |
kevinbenton | salv-orlando: ok, good night. i’m still deciding if I even have a valid point to continue with | 23:57 |
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