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| openstackgerrit | Magesh GV proposed a change to openstack/neutron: neutron service chain https://review.openstack.org/113737 | 00:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sayaji Patil proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implements sync mechanism between Neutron and Nuage VSD https://review.openstack.org/113418 | 01:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement external attachment mixin in ML2 plugin https://review.openstack.org/116187 | 01:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: BSN Plugin: external attachment support https://review.openstack.org/116153 | 01:29 |
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| kevinbenton | mestery: ping | 01:31 |
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| trinaths | can some one review this change, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109659/. Updated with reviewer suggestions. | 01:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: One Convergence: Skip all tests with 'v6' in name https://review.openstack.org/116712 | 02:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Refactor security group rpc call https://review.openstack.org/111876 | 02:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | vikas proposed a change to openstack/neutron: check for creating multiple vpn-service https://review.openstack.org/117403 | 02:45 |
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| lazy_prince | Hi All.. Has anyone looked at https://github.com/rackerlabs/ironic-neutron-plugin.. i have few doubts regarding it.. | 03:03 |
| lazy_prince | can someone help..? | 03:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Xu Han Peng proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Use EUI64 for IPv6 SLAAC when subnet is specified https://review.openstack.org/101433 | 03:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marco Chirico proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove ovs dependency in embrane plugin https://review.openstack.org/108226 | 03:51 |
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| atmark | Hi, is it possible to have a specific range of floating IP for a specific project/tenant? Say tenant1 has floating IP range of 10.106.50.0/24 and tenant2 on the otherhand has 10.106.51.0/24 | 03:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Compare subnet length as well when deleting DHCP entry https://review.openstack.org/117415 | 04:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Send notification following port update https://review.openstack.org/117416 | 04:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix incorrect int/tuple comparison during binary search https://review.openstack.org/117417 | 04:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove several unused variables https://review.openstack.org/117418 | 04:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix incorrect int/tuple comparison during binary search https://review.openstack.org/117417 | 05:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Trinath Somanchi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Freescale FWaaS Plugin https://review.openstack.org/109659 | 05:20 |
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| oda-g | amotoki: ping | 05:24 |
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| amotoki | oda-g: hi | 05:26 |
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| oda-g | amotoki: would you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113411/ ? there is no core reviwer take care of it. | 05:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/114069 | 05:42 |
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| trinaths | can some look into this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109659/ - Freescale FWaaS Plugin. | 05:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/117100 | 06:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Koteswara Rao Kelam proposed a change to openstack/neutron: shared policy shouldn't have unshared rules https://review.openstack.org/115912 | 07:03 |
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| jschwarz | good morning all :) | 07:23 |
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| trinaths | jschwarz: Very Good Morning :-) | 07:28 |
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| jschwarz | trinaths, how are you in this fine morning indeed? ;-) | 07:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove chain for correct router during update_routers() https://review.openstack.org/117444 | 07:32 |
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| trinaths | jschwarz: Doing well, @ Office, going for Lunch.. :-) how abt you | 07:36 |
| jschwarz | trinaths, just arrived to my office, a few hours till lunch for me... :< | 07:36 |
| marun | Does anyone know if the pg failures are temporal or need a fix? | 07:36 |
| trinaths | jschwarz: oh.. late to office or daily this time.. | 07:37 |
| jschwarz | trinaths, daily | 07:37 |
| jschwarz | trinaths, GMT+3 and usually arrive late anyways | 07:37 |
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| trinaths | marun: I think its getting better now. Don't know absolutely, but see some changes hit +1 | 07:38 |
| trinaths | jschwarz: :-) | 07:38 |
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| trinaths | can some look into this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109659/ - Freescale FWaaS Plugin. | 09:02 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, testing the rolling updates scenario for the rpc | 09:03 |
| ajo | seems good so far, now even better with the fall back to sg_rules_for_devices if sg_info_for_devices is not available | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Koteswara Rao Kelam proposed a change to openstack/neutron: shared policy shouldn't have unshared rules https://review.openstack.org/115912 | 09:04 |
| salv-orlando | ajo: ok. I’d complete merging amotoki’s patch series and then move on to your | 09:04 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando, ack, thanks. I will report the rolling updates result on the review comments | 09:05 |
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| jschwarz | salv-orlando, hey mate.. hate to be a nag.. :< | 09:06 |
| ajo | jschwarz, nag! :P :) | 09:07 |
| jschwarz | :< | 09:07 |
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| salv-orlando | jschwarz: no worries. It’s common. I get frustrated when people do not review my patches in other projects too. | 09:08 |
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| jschwarz | salv-orlando, if it comforts you I don't need a full review (yet) - just a "yes, your code looks good so rebase your other patches on it" or "no, rethink this whole thing" | 09:11 |
| salv-orlando | jschwarz: yes. I’m going to do that as soon as I finish diagnosing these gate failure. Ping me again in 2 hours if you don’t have any review from me. | 09:13 |
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| jschwarz | salv-orlando, thanks a lot :) | 09:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vivekanandan Narasimhan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix DVR to service DHCP Ports https://review.openstack.org/117185 | 09:14 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, hi! | 09:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Use lockutils module for tox functional env https://review.openstack.org/117460 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Sandhya Dasu proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implements a ML2 mechanism driver for Cisco UCS Manager https://review.openstack.org/74134 | 09:21 |
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| trinaths | lyxus,: yes | 09:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Block downgrade from icehouse to havana https://review.openstack.org/115620 | 09:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Block downgrade from icehouse to havana https://review.openstack.org/115620 | 09:43 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: Hi | 10:13 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, I want to discuss problems with https://review.openstack.org/76520 when you have time. | 10:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feng Xi Yan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2 Mechanism Driver for vCenter DVS port group creation https://review.openstack.org/111227 | 10:16 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: I have only a few minutes now. Then I will be on the road for an hour. | 10:17 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, the thing is that I have no idea how to fix error that I got now. We can talk about later. | 10:18 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: is there a way of serializing the tests? | 10:19 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, I was thinkig about using lockutils, but seems that this does not work.. | 10:19 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: I believe it is not meant for tests themselves. | 10:20 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: We need to somehow tell unittest about test cases that use a single resource (the DB). | 10:21 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: Otherwise we need to use a separate db for each testcase. | 10:21 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, yes that right | 10:23 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: I forget, where is the DB and user created? Is it by oslo.test somehow? Or a higher level? | 10:36 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: I have to go now. I will ping you later if you are still around. | 10:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Berezovsky Irena proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove binding:profile update from Mellanox ML2 MD https://review.openstack.org/116612 | 10:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Add support for provider-network extension in nuage Plugin https://review.openstack.org/114402 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Ensure assertion matches dict iter order in test https://review.openstack.org/111924 | 11:09 |
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| jschwarz | salv-orlando, ping? | 11:20 |
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| trinaths | hi, when I run tox -epy27, for unit testing, I get --- import errors --- specifying the test path, but nothing on why error is posted. Any other way to debug this. | 11:24 |
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| jschwarz | trinaths, can you paste a log? | 11:33 |
| jschwarz | to pastebin? | 11:33 |
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| jschwarz | trinaths_afk, can you pastebin a log? | 11:34 |
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| trinaths | jschwarz: done. got it corrected. Ran nosetests it showed me the error. module webtests not found, installed webtests, got a :) for unittests. | 11:40 |
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| jschwarz | ^^ | 11:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Sync oslo-incubator module log: https://review.openstack.org/117491 | 11:58 |
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| jschwarz | salv-orlando, thank you kindly XD I will go over your notes and submit a new patchset :) | 12:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Franck Yelles proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Adding support of DNS nameserver and Host routes for the Nuage Plugin https://review.openstack.org/113421 | 12:03 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: still around? | 12:14 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, yes | 12:14 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, creating and dropping db is doing in oslo.db https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db/blob/master/oslo/db/sqlalchemy/provision.py#L60 | 12:15 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: I see, thanks. Have you tried using that? | 12:16 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, this is already used | 12:16 |
| * HenryG looks again ... | 12:17 | |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, if fact test fails on this line https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db/blob/master/oslo/db/sqlalchemy/provision.py#L53 | 12:17 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: Oh. | 12:17 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: Is that because the gate must give the openstack_citest user permission to create/drop databases? | 12:18 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, openstack_citest has this permissions. | 12:18 |
| akamyshnikova | I have this errors locally too. | 12:19 |
| akamyshnikova | If I run one test it works OK | 12:19 |
| akamyshnikova | but if I run all tests I got the same error as in Jenkins | 12:20 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: Have you checked with oslo.db people if they can explain it? | 12:21 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, no, rpodolyaka is busy now. When he have time I tried to talk with him. | 12:22 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, but I'm not sure how soon he will have time to talk... | 12:23 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: OK. It is beginning to look like a bug in the oslo.db test isolation. | 12:23 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, when is the last day when test can be merged? | 12:24 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: This is just a bug fix, so we have until the last day of Juno. | 12:26 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: Still about two months to go. | 12:26 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, the problem can be not in oslo, but in how test run now, as when they were in separate classes there was not such problem.. | 12:27 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, thats fine, so we have time, I was afraid that it will be soon :) | 12:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Arvind Somya proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2 Type Driver refactor part 2 https://review.openstack.org/115025 | 12:29 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: The error is always the same? During cleanUp() for PG table? | 12:30 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, yes the same, but not for all test, only for 10 random. | 12:31 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: Is it easy to install and configure postgres on Ubuntu? Can you recommend some doc or guide to show how? | 12:34 |
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| amuller | HenryG: I'm kind of entering a conversation in the middle, but devstack can do that for you | 12:35 |
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| amuller | HenryG: you can configure it to use psql and not mariadb and you're good to go | 12:35 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: thanks, I did not know that | 12:35 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, yes, amuller is right you can set database_type postgresql in local.conf | 12:36 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, I do it separately using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL | 12:37 |
| HenryG | amuller: I meant to thank you | 12:37 |
| amuller | HenryG: I think it's smart to run your devstack VMs with postgres, I caught a few errors like that during development that the gate didnt | 12:38 |
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| amuller | from my personal and very limited experience postgres seems to be less leniant than mysql, so if something you're working on isn't tested by Tempest then any postgres specific errors won't be caught... And the unit tests don't use postgres ofc, so you're left with manual testing | 12:39 |
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| HenryG | amuller: I assume you can stlil switch back to mysql easily? Both remain installed in the system? | 12:40 |
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| amuller | HenryG: unstack and stack again, I had issues with both services enabled though iirc | 12:41 |
| amuller | HenryG: so you would need to remember to only have 1 enabled at any given time | 12:41 |
| HenryG | amuller: makes sense, thanks | 12:41 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: do you have the recipe for setting up the openstack_citest user for PG? | 12:43 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, in the beginning of file with test I add comment with description how to do it for MySQL and PostgreSQL. | 12:44 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: How quickly I forget! Thanks! | 12:45 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, np, I sorry that you have to set up postgres for testing all of this. rpodolayka answer me now, so may be I find out something :) | 12:48 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: No worries! I am the one who should be sorry for waiting this long to install PG. | 12:49 |
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| mestery | Note for neutron folks: Juno-3 BP meeting in #openstack-meeting-3 in 8 minutes | 12:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bob Melander proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Adds router service plugin for CSR1kv https://review.openstack.org/101002 | 13:06 |
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| akamyshnikova | HenryG, I've talked to rpodolyaka, he said that it might be oslo.db problem, so I'm going to do some debug and find out is it true. | 13:10 |
| HenryG | akamyshnikova: Great! | 13:11 |
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| HenryG | akamyshnikova: I have PG tests running locally now, thanks! | 13:11 |
| akamyshnikova | HenryG, np :) | 13:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Update DVR Binding when router_id changes https://review.openstack.org/117285 | 13:18 |
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| HenryG | rkukura: can you check in meeting-3 channel? | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Refactor l2_pop code to pass mac/ip info more readably https://review.openstack.org/112178 | 13:35 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando, ok, I'll try to go into rebasing the SG RPC work on top of amotoki's patches, but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116312/ seems to have merge problems (jenkins said) | 13:36 |
| ajo | amotoki, are you online? I could check on those merge problems first | 13:36 |
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| rkukura | HenryG: just joined | 13:37 |
| HenryG | rkukura: Too late :( | 13:37 |
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| HenryG | rkukura: mestery was gathering info about BPs that need merging this week. | 13:37 |
| salv-orlando | ajo: I need to go offline not but if amotoki is not around you can fix it for him by pushing a new patches | 13:37 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando, ack | 13:38 |
| HenryG | rkukura: ML2 was not covered | 13:38 |
| rkukura | HenryG: I had heard rumors about that but didn’t know the time and couldn’t find an email on openstack-dev | 13:38 |
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| rkukura | HenryG: I see the minutes - thanks for at least bringing ML2 up | 13:41 |
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| amotoki | ajo: hi | 13:42 |
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| mestery | rkukura: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/044117.html | 13:43 |
| rkukura | HenryG: I think for all these freezes, there should be two separate deadlines - first one for general features that can effect multiple plugins/drivers, and a second one, maybe a week later, just for changes isolated to a specific plugin or driver. This would let reviewers focus on the general stuff first, but have a change to merge driver/plugin-specific stuff afterwards | 13:44 |
| sdague | sc68cal (and other ipv6 folks) - review on this would be appreciated - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87987/15 | 13:45 |
| sdague | to see if we can get more ipv6 bits enabled in devstack for people to play with | 13:45 |
| rkukura | mestery: Thanks - that was in my openstack-dev folder, but farther back than I looked | 13:45 |
| mestery | sdague: Thanks for the link, looking | 13:46 |
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| ajo | hi amotoki I was about to look into https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116312/ for the merge failure (jenkins) | 13:46 |
| HenryG | sdague: I am testing and reviewing it. | 13:46 |
| ajo | have you started to look at it? | 13:47 |
| amotoki | ajo: i just noticed it. I has been online most of today but there is no enough time to check jenkins results :( | 13:47 |
| ajo | amotoki, ack, ok I'll look at it now | 13:47 |
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| ajo | it seems it's the only patch with merge failures on the chain | 13:48 |
| ajo | but trying a manual rebase locally | 13:48 |
| ajo | to find about the others. | 13:48 |
| sdague | HenryG: awesome, thanks! | 13:48 |
| sdague | HenryG: I have a hard time evaluating in the abstract, so I'd love some expert opinions there | 13:48 |
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| ajo | amotoki, my first rpc try was a bit naive :) | 13:49 |
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| ajo | thanks for looking at it afterwards | 13:49 |
| amotoki | ajo: yeah. it was one the messy areas in neutron. | 13:49 |
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| ajo | amotoki, ok, the only one with conflict is the SG RPC versioning | 13:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Robert Kukura proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2: Driver API changes for hierarchical port binding https://review.openstack.org/115110 | 13:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Robert Kukura proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2: DB changes for hierarchical port binding https://review.openstack.org/116122 | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Robert Kukura proposed a change to openstack/neutron: ML2: Hierarchical port binding https://review.openstack.org/116209 | 13:52 |
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| ajo | amotoki, ping | 14:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed a change to openstack/neutron: BGP Dynamic Routing: introduce routing instance https://review.openstack.org/115554 | 14:03 |
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| amotoki | ajo: pong | 14:03 |
| ajo | I found the problem neutron/tests/unit/oneconvergence/test_security_group.py , this is the one that fails to merge | 14:03 |
| ajo | they removed the skipTest 's | 14:03 |
| ajo | and diff get's confused | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed a change to openstack/neutron: BGP Dynamic Routing: adding agent and scheduling https://review.openstack.org/115667 | 14:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed a change to openstack/neutron: BGP Dynamic Routing: adding BGP driver https://review.openstack.org/115938 | 14:04 |
| amotoki | ajo: just i fixed it and just trying to upload it. | 14:04 |
| ajo | ahh amotoki without rebasing the whole chain? | 14:04 |
| ajo | amotoki++ | 14:04 |
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| ajo | I did it, but didn't want to commit because I was rebasing the chain, | 14:05 |
| amotoki | ajo: no rebasing is a bit tough work. I just rebased. I would like to check if i can avoid it. | 14:05 |
| ajo | amotoki, ping me back when it's uploaded, I will proceed to rebase the SG RPC refactor on to | 14:05 |
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| ajo | amotoki, yeah, I even doubt it could be done without rebasing (without doing anything too tricky)... | 14:06 |
| amotoki | ajo: sure. I would like not to need more round more dhcp RPC callback. I would like to check a bit. | 14:06 |
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| ajo | amotoki, we can also wait for the others to merge, | 14:06 |
| ajo | and then just rebase this one on master | 14:06 |
| ajo | I'd be ok with that. | 14:06 |
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| amotoki | ajo: thanks for your patience. I will join in your reviews too. | 14:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: L3 Metering label as shared https://review.openstack.org/70090 | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: L3 Metering label as shared https://review.openstack.org/70090 | 14:14 |
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| matrohon | rkukura : hi | 14:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Don't spawn metadata-proxy for non-isolated nets https://review.openstack.org/116832 | 14:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make DhcpRpcCallback a separate callback class https://review.openstack.org/115799 | 14:25 |
| jschwarz | lots of work on dhcp agent these days I see :> | 14:26 |
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| jschwarz | see you guys later :) | 14:26 |
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| weigreen | hello, may i ask something about lbass plugin? or i need to go to another channel? | 14:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Shakhat proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix Py3 compatibility issues https://review.openstack.org/110947 | 14:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make DvrServerRpcCallback a separate callback class https://review.openstack.org/115800 | 14:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make SecurityGroupsRpcCallback a separate callback class https://review.openstack.org/116312 | 14:30 |
| Altran | weigreen - there is #openstack-lbaas channel so maybe that channel is better (but You can always try asking here too) | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-neutronclient: Repeat add-tenant and remove-tenant option in cli https://review.openstack.org/102671 | 14:33 |
| amotoki | ajo: I uploaded the new patch set. the check/gate queue is quite long now though.... | 14:33 |
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| ajo | amotoki, thanks! | 14:33 |
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| jlibosva | salv-orlando: hi | 14:36 |
| salv-orlando | hi jlibosva | 14:36 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: I'm comparing tables generated in havana by create_all with havana code base and tables created by havana_initial | 14:36 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: there are some minor differences and I'm thinking if it is worth to make a one migration after havana that would fix that | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: for those upgrading from havana to juno (is it even supported?) | 14:38 |
| salv-orlando | why would we add a migration after havana? | 14:38 |
| salv-orlando | if it was not supported we would just start from icehouse | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: if someone started neutron server in havana without migration, the schema is different | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: ah, the healing will catch this... | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: nevermind, sorry for disturbing :) | 14:38 |
| salv-orlando | jlibosva: is that because the migrations up to havana are basically not in line with the models? | 14:39 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: yes | 14:39 |
| jlibosva | salv-orlando: more likely migrations from havana | 14:39 |
| salv-orlando | jlibosva: the only thing we need to check is that this will not cause other failures in the migration path | 14:39 |
| salv-orlando | if that’s case then we won’t even get to healing | 14:39 |
| jlibosva | right, I should try to upgrade | 14:40 |
| rkukura | matrohon: hi | 14:40 |
| matrohon | rkukura : if you have a minute, I'd like to have your opinion on this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1361540 | 14:41 |
| rkukura | sounds like a valid bug to me | 14:42 |
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| rkukura | I see no reason bypassing the core plugin’s handling of the resource would ever make sense | 14:43 |
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| matrohon | rkukura : me neither, to to be consistant, a router shouldn't get deleted if a gw port is still plugged | 14:44 |
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| rkukura | matrohon: I’d be OK with the gw port automatically being deleted (via the core plugin) when the router is deleted, but if interfaces have to be removed first, I can see treating the gw the same way. | 14:45 |
| rkukura | matrohon: I need to run an errand - will be back in an hour or so | 14:45 |
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| matrohon | rkukura : fine thanks for your opinion | 14:45 |
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| trinaths | Hi All. Good Morning | 15:00 |
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| trinaths | Need core reviews for change http://review.openstack.org/#/c/109659/. kindly help me. All CI logs at http://git.freescale.com/openstack_logs/. | 15:09 |
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| marun | armax carl_baldwin mestery amotoki: please approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117280/ , jenkins check has passed | 15:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | marun: armax got it. | 15:18 |
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| marun | armax: danke! | 15:19 |
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| amotoki | marun: armax already approved it :-) | 15:21 |
| marun | :) | 15:22 |
| marun | now it'll only take...erm...6 hours to actually merge | 15:22 |
| marun | (maybe longer) | 15:22 |
| amotoki | marun: check/gate queue is getting longer... | 15:23 |
| marun | amotoki: it's pretty crazy | 15:23 |
| marun | I think it took 24h to recheck that simple change I just posted | 15:23 |
| marun | 101248 | 15:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | nlahouti proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Cisco DFA ML2 Mechanism Driver https://review.openstack.org/103281 | 15:29 |
| armax | amotoki: ping | 15:29 |
| armax | amotoki: when you have a chance could you go over patches for L3 HA https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/l3-high-availability,n,z | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Tunnel ID range validation for VXLAN/GRE networks https://review.openstack.org/89982 | 15:30 |
| armax | amotoki: and see if they fit the RPC refactoring you have been pursuing? | 15:30 |
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| amotoki | armax: sure. I can spend coming days on them. | 15:31 |
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| armax | amotoki: thanks! | 15:31 |
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| amuller | amotoki: not the entire series | 15:38 |
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| amuller | If you could take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64553/ only | 15:39 |
| amuller | the diff between patchsets 68 and 70 | 15:39 |
| amuller | is when I rebased on top of your RPC change | 15:39 |
| amotoki | amuller: I am interested in the whole series too. perhaps you expect me to check RPC related topics :-) I am the third core for suggestions. | 15:39 |
| amuller | Your input is *always* welcome of course | 15:40 |
| amotoki | amuller: btw, your series tend to ignore jenkins failures so far. I think it is time to consider it. | 15:40 |
| amuller | oh? it's all been passing consistenly, apart from the agent side patches because of an issue of the functional job, but it passes locally and Maru is on it | 15:41 |
| asduk | hi, i have an issue with my OpenStack environment and i hope someone can help me. Im using 3 nodes. first node is a virtual kvm ubuntu and its the controller. Its in HA on the 2 compute node. the 2 compute node are the running also neutron. | 15:41 |
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| asduk | the probleme is that, this envriomnent is causing a loop from br-int to br-ex and the physical switch.... a broadcast strom is createed | 15:42 |
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| amuller | amotoki: apart from jenkins going insane last night I didn't have any troubles | 15:42 |
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| amotoki | amuller: Thanks for your work. When I looked the whole series about a week ago, most tests are ignored and I see many -1 from jenkisn when just i looks minutes ago. | 15:44 |
| amotoki | amuller: i seems to need to loos more carefully :-( | 15:44 |
| amuller | As far as I'm aware we're good with all jobs, apart from the functional one in the agent side | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Chuck Carlino proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Allow port mac_address to be modified https://review.openstack.org/112129 | 15:45 |
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| amotoki | sc68cal: ping | 16:03 |
| sc68cal | amotoki: pong | 16:03 |
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| amotoki | sc68cal: i would like to know what is the good default option for ipv6 two attributes. | 16:04 |
| amotoki | sc68cal: according to the spec doc http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/juno/ipv6-radvd-ra.html#rest-api-impact, | 16:04 |
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| amotoki | sc68cal: "VM obtains IPv6 address based on non-OpenStack services on the network, or only creates a link-local address" looks the default mode. | 16:04 |
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| amotoki | sc68cal: i wonder if it is a good option for most IPv6 endusers/operators or not. | 16:05 |
| sc68cal | To be honest that table is wrong | 16:05 |
| sc68cal | We need to correct it to match this table: http://specs.openstack.org./openstack/neutron-specs/specs/juno/ipv6-provider-nets-slaac.html#rest-api-impact | 16:06 |
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| sc68cal | I think those descriptions get us into dangerous territory that we're not ready to cover | 16:06 |
| amotoki | sc68cal: oh. i didn't notice the newer version. | 16:06 |
| sc68cal | We do not currently have a use case for setting only ipv6_ra_mode | 16:08 |
| amotoki | sc68cal: hmm... sc68cal: I am not working on horizon IPv6 two modes support. I wrote down the menu for more user friendly. | 16:08 |
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| amotoki | sc68cal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115739/2/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/project/networks/workflows.py | 16:08 |
| sc68cal | The case we do have a use case for is *not* setting ipv6_ra_mode but setting ipv6_address_mode | 16:08 |
| amotoki | sc68cal: really appreciated if you have suggestion which options should be displayed and which is the better default. | 16:09 |
| sc68cal | commenting now | 16:10 |
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| amotoki | sc68cal: really appreciated. I am not so familiar with IPv6 operations. I just have an experience to use it. | 16:11 |
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| sc68cal | amotoki: commented on the review | 16:11 |
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| amotoki | sc68cal: thanks! | 16:12 |
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| sc68cal | amotoki: no problem - I think just 3 choices and slaac/slaac as the default will cover 99% of the cases | 16:13 |
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| amotoki | sc68cal: that is a great news. What do you think about Neutron side? If changing slaac/slaac to default does not break the existing deployment in most case, it is worth considered. | 16:16 |
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| sc68cal | I think that's a conversation worth having | 16:18 |
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| amotoki | sc68cal: I believe we can discuss this after the crunch time for J-3 is over. | 16:20 |
| sc68cal | only concern is how to handle when someone sends an API request with one attribute set | 16:20 |
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| amotoki | sc68cal: what in my mind is the default value just when both attr is not specified. | 16:21 |
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| sc68cal | amotoki: Understood. The trouble is what was the behavior before we introduced the attributes | 16:23 |
| sc68cal | at least in the opensource plugins, the default was to be broken | 16:23 |
| sc68cal | like nothing worked | 16:23 |
| sc68cal | but there could be pugins out there that weren't broken | 16:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: L3 Metering label as shared https://review.openstack.org/70090 | 16:26 |
| chuckC | rkukura: hi | 16:27 |
| amotoki | sc68cal: I see. it is more complicated than I expected. IMO adding an option to keep the old behavior (default: off) is worth considered. It is important too to avoid confusion for new deployments. | 16:27 |
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| sc68cal | The old behavior is preserved by not setting any of the new ipv6 attributes, at least in discussions and specs we've submitted | 16:28 |
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| trinaths | Need Core reviews for change http://review.openstack.org/#/c/109659/. | 16:35 |
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| rkukura | chuckC: hello | 16:49 |
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| chuckC | rkukura: I know everyone's busy with features this week, but I have a bug with ml2 impact that I'd at least like to get on someone's radar | 16:50 |
| chuckC | rkukura: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112129/3 | 16:51 |
| chuckC | rkukura: actually, shivharis would be best at first since there's also a change to the brocade mech_driver | 16:51 |
| chuckC | rkukura: but I haven't seen him around today | 16:51 |
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| jaypipes | sc68cal: two of my favorite pugins are in the background here: https://twitter.com/jaypipes | 16:53 |
| sc68cal | jaypipes: dear lord they are so adorable | 16:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Refactor the DVR scheduler to get rid of hints https://review.openstack.org/114410 | 17:02 |
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| jaypipes | kevinbenton: so... special unicorns... | 17:03 |
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| jaypipes | kevinbenton: I was trying to give an example of how we're dealing with the exact same problem in Nova with the Gantt effort. | 17:03 |
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| jaypipes | kevinbenton: but clearly I wasn't as descriptive as I could have been, so lemme explain | 17:04 |
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| jaypipes | kevinbenton: with the Nova scheduler, there has been a push to separate out a large chunk of code into its own project | 17:06 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton: called Gantt... | 17:06 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton: and as a number of us have begun reviewing the blueprints and patches ostensibly trying to pull this out into its own component, we've realized that the extent to which the code is entangled within other pieces of the Nova codebase means that it's not something that can "live outside" the Nova tree (with or without any future intent of re-merging it into Nova) without major rework of internal interfaces that | 17:07 |
| jaypipes | are either not granular enough or not firmly defined enough. | 17:07 |
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| jaypipes | kevinbenton: so, in the case of DVR and GBP code on the Neutron side, I see both of those efforts as struggling with the same basic problems that originate from the design of Neutron itself. | 17:09 |
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| jaypipes | kevinbenton: and I don't think it would be possible to have eiher of those pieces live in the incubator as "experimental components" with any possibility of future re-merging into the Neutron code base' | 17:09 |
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| jaypipes | kevinbenton: and thus I call them special unicorns, because unlike other pieces of Neutron, those two things don't layer on top of Neutron's APIs (public or internal). Instead, they change (or require changes to) large portions of the Neutron code base. | 17:10 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton: hope that explains the unicorn thing better. | 17:10 |
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| sc68cal | jaypipes: really good thoughts. You know I had wondered what became of Gantt | 17:28 |
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| sc68cal | Neutron may have same problems - tightly coupled | 17:29 |
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| mriedem | sorry for jumping in, but if you have to set api workers higher for neutron to scale, has anyone thought about just bumping the default to number of CPUs like nova/cinder/glance/trove does for it's API workers? | 17:37 |
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| mriedem | i'm aware of some issues with python-qpid 0.26 and multiple workers | 17:39 |
| mriedem | fixed in 0.28 and patchable in earlier versions https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-5557 | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ivar Lazzaro proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Apic drivers enhancements (second approach): Sync https://review.openstack.org/116157 | 17:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivar Lazzaro proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Apic drivers enhancements (second approach): L3 refactor https://review.openstack.org/116156 | 17:58 |
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| bjornar | I am struggeling with: "NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed" | 18:22 |
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| kevinbenton | jaypipes: i see. but the DVR work was mostly just major changes to the reference L3 implementation | 18:48 |
| kevinbenton | jaypipes: it required some changes to core, but most of the changes were contained to the plugin | 18:48 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton, jaypipes: DVR also required extensive changes to ML2 in order to (sort of) support distributed port bindings | 18:49 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: that’s because it introduced a new concept of a single distributed port though, right? | 18:50 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton, rkukura: FYI, on defcore call.... will respond once over :) | 18:50 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: not particularily because the internal APIs were broken | 18:51 |
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| bjornar | I am experiencing some difficulties with port binding in icehouse ... getting WARNING neutron.plugins.ml2.managers [req-1d8a3436-3449-406c-8024-27c4d2d71bf1 None] Failed to bind port 3fe0efcf-40dd-407c-be64-e8097d142ab2 on host cpu01.infrastructure | 18:52 |
| bjornar | I dont feel I get enough debugging here to know the real cause.. | 18:52 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura, jaypipes: my point is that there should have been a better way to coordinate such a major change to one component of the reference implementation | 18:53 |
| rkukura | bjornar: Run “neutron agent-list”, and make sure correct L2 agent is running on host cpu01.infrastructure | 18:53 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: For some reason, I didn’t see any of this conversation prior to “kevinbenton: jaypipes: i see. but the DVR work was mostly just major changes to the reference L3 implementation” | 18:54 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: because i’m slow | 18:54 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: i was responding to some messages jaypipes had sent this morning | 18:55 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: his point was that neutrons internal APIs suck and thats the root cause of use needing an incubator | 18:57 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: i have an unrelated question. can the port API be used to mark a port as bound? | 18:58 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: for Ironic or something similar to mark a created port as bound | 18:58 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I wouldn’t say the internal APIs suck, but there is certainly no preconception that they are intended to be stable | 18:58 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: no | 18:59 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: ok | 18:59 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I cannot see how ironic can possible use ML2 without implementing its own mechanism driver that knows what it means to bind a port to physical host’s physical NIC. | 18:59 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: right, because something needs to put it on the appropriate segment… | 19:00 |
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| bjornar | rkukura, sure, all agents are running | 19:01 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: That might involve a 2nd mechanism driver managing a ToR switch, as a hierarchical port binding | 19:01 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: right, we chatted about this a bit | 19:01 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: i had the extension for adding a switch port identifier | 19:02 |
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| rkukura | bjornar: Then, as admin, run “neutron agent-show <ID>” for the L2 agent on that host, and make sure the network’s physical_network shows up in that agent’s bridge_mappings (OVS) or interface_mappings (LB). | 19:02 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: Not sure what you mean | 19:03 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: ironic will need a way to inform neutron of the physical port location | 19:03 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: This isn’t the external atatachment points, is it? | 19:03 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton, rkukura: OK, off call now, sorry about that. | 19:03 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: yeah | 19:04 |
| bjornar | rkukura, that might be the problem: "bridge_mappings": {}, | 19:04 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I kind of think ironic is looking at this backwards | 19:04 |
| rkukura | bjornar: Make sure bridge_mappings is configured correctly on the compute node. | 19:04 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: how would you prefer to see it done? | 19:04 |
| bjornar | rkukura, so this is documentation mistake... | 19:04 |
| nunizacu | i will rape all this 2014.2 and neutron | 19:05 |
| bjornar | rkukura, should this be in ml2_conf.ini ? | 19:05 |
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| kevinbenton | bjornar: no, in agent config | 19:05 |
| rkukura | bjornar: In whatever config file the L2 agent is using, which might depend on the distribution | 19:05 |
| bjornar | seems it is ml2_conf.ini | 19:06 |
| kevinbenton | bjornar: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini#L83 | 19:06 |
| kevinbenton | bjornar: just make sure it’s under a section named [ovs] | 19:06 |
| bjornar | ok | 19:06 |
| kevinbenton | jaypipes: so how would a better API have helped with the DVR work? | 19:07 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Seems to me that an ironic mechanism driver would be need to bind the port at the NIC level, basically by verifying that it can. Not sure if this would deal with flat network segments only, or with VLANs. | 19:07 |
| bjornar | rkukura, so should this be "integration_bridge" ? | 19:07 |
| bjornar | its gre | 19:08 |
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| rkukura | bjornar: No, the OVS bridge that your physical NIC is attached to | 19:08 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: a physical port needs to be provisioned on a switch | 19:08 |
| rkukura | bjornar: That’s different - bridge_mappings isn’t used | 19:08 |
| rkukura | but make sure tunnel_types includes gre in the agent info | 19:08 |
| bjornar | rkukura, it does | 19:09 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: into an appropriate vlan/vxlan | 19:09 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: That would require a mechanism driver, during port binding | 19:09 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton: sorry, reading back, gime a sec :) | 19:09 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: right, and that MD needs to know the switch port identifier | 19:09 |
| bjornar | rkukura, http://pastie.org/9510797 | 19:10 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: ironic can capture this information via LLDP or manual configuration | 19:10 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: but it needs to go somewhere that can be read by another MD | 19:11 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Some of the vendor mechanism drivers will be using LLDP, and there was a BP proposed for a “topology service” that would likely be based on LLDP and consumed by mechanism drivers during port binding | 19:13 |
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| rkukura | bjornar: I’m not seeing anything obviously wrong there | 19:14 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: so your position is that you shouldn’t ever be able to specify a physical port to be provisioned onto a neutron network? | 19:15 |
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| kevinbenton | bjornar: what is the segmentation type of the network you are trying to attach the instance to? | 19:15 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I’m not seeing how this isn’t just a matter of creating a port, and making sure some mechanism driver(s) can bind the port. | 19:16 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: I’m not sure what it would require some new API | 19:16 |
| bjornar | rkukura, http://pastie.org/9510808 | 19:16 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: I’m pretty sure bjornar said the network_type is gre | 19:17 |
| bjornar | Im not getting the debugging I need to understand the problem here, network_type is gre | 19:17 |
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| bjornar | I understand that the reason nova-compute gives me " Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed" is because neutron-openvswitch-agent returns that as port-type when it tries to create the port and fails.. | 19:18 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: lets say I want to attach a real router to an external network. right now there is no way to do that within neutron’s knowledge | 19:18 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: i want to be able to express a physical port location to be provisioned onto the Neutron network | 19:19 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I’ve certainly used provider external networks, and their routers, directly. | 19:19 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: and what did you have to do to put the router on the external network? | 19:19 |
| bjornar | what does "devices":0 mean here.. in agent-show | 19:19 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: It was already their - I just set its gateway IP as the neutron subnet’s gateway IP | 19:20 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: how did it get there on the right segmentation ID? | 19:21 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton: k, done reading back... so, the question is not whether a better API would have helped with the DVR work. The question is whether better internal interfaces would have allowed the DVR work to exist entirely outside of the Neutron source tree. | 19:21 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: It was a provider network that I created in neutron to match the existing network with the router | 19:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Sayaji Patil proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implements sync mechanism between Neutron and Nuage VSD https://review.openstack.org/113418 | 19:21 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: So are you asking how we’d attach this router to an arbitrary tenant network? | 19:21 |
| kevinbenton | jaypipes: it mostly can exist outside. i don’t think most of the cores want it to though | 19:22 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: yes | 19:22 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: or an external network that uses a regular segmentation ID | 19:22 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: this is how we do our external networks so we don’t have to burn an interface on L3 agents | 19:22 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: and right now to attach something, manual action is required on the backend controller to put the port in the right segment | 19:23 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: In my case, the provider network was a specific VLAN on the same trunk with other VLANs being used for tenant networks | 19:23 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: yeah, so vlan configuration on the router to match was necessary | 19:23 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: i want to be able to make an access port basically whereever | 19:24 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: so things like ironic or other arbitrary things that want access to a neutron network via a physical port can gain access | 19:24 |
| bjornar | just to make sure, its just neutron-openvswitch-agent that should run on the compute node (along with nova-compute) | 19:25 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton: correct me if I'm wrong, but the ML thread in question here was discussin jeblair's recommendations that the neutron-incubator be for code that should really exist separately from the Neutron source tree. And I was agreeing with him, and stating that there were some special unicorns (GBP and DVR for example) that were *proposed to go into the incubator*, but did *not* fit the "live forever outside of Neutron | 19:25 |
| jaypipes | " bill. | 19:25 |
| rkukura | My initial inclination would be to write a mechanism driver that does this. | 19:25 |
| bjornar | ..and openvswitch itself ofcorse. | 19:25 |
| rkukura | bjornar: right | 19:26 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: ok, but we need a new field in the port API to specify this | 19:26 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton: I thought that is what we were discussing -- you had asked me what the special unicorns were and why they were special unicorns. And I answered that GBP and DVR were special because they really needed to be in the Neutron tree, and they needed to be in the Neutron tree because of the architecture of Neutron itself. | 19:27 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: What exactly do you want to specify? | 19:27 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: the switch port | 19:27 |
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| kevinbenton | jaypipes: DVR needs to be in the neutron tree because the cores have determined that it needs to be in the tree | 19:28 |
| kevinbenton | jaypipes: not because of API limitations | 19:28 |
| rkukura | So I’d like to undestand how this relates to specifying the host, which is necessary for current port binding | 19:28 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: perhaps we just jam a switch port identifier in the host field? | 19:28 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: In current port binding, host is what specifies “location” | 19:28 |
| rkukura | The port will never get bound without some value getting stored in host | 19:29 |
| kevinbenton | jaypipes: so i was pointing out that incubator was really for quickly iterating on things that want to be in core and not their own project | 19:29 |
| bjornar | rkukura, Any ideas then? | 19:29 |
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| kevinbenton | jaypipes: or things that are in core or require major changes | 19:29 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: perhaps i should refactor my external attachment port work then to use the HOST_ID field | 19:30 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: and then add a new mechanism driver | 19:30 |
| kevinbenton | jaypipes: *things that are in core but require major changes | 19:31 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton: and I was saying that jeblair's recommendation that incubator should be for things that should *not* be in core was, IME, the proper recommendation. | 19:31 |
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| rkukura | bjornar: I’d suggest enabling debug-level logging for neutron, and looking for “Attempting to bind port …” and “Checking segment: …” messages. | 19:33 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: This seems potentially much cleaner to me, and potentially able to work with all the different ToR mechanism drivers. | 19:34 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: But maybe not doable in the juno timeframe | 19:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivar Lazzaro proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Apic drivers enhancements (second approach): Sync https://review.openstack.org/116157 | 19:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivar Lazzaro proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Apic drivers enhancements (second approach): L3 refactor https://review.openstack.org/116156 | 19:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivar Lazzaro proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Apic drivers enhancements (second approach): Topology https://review.openstack.org/116780 | 19:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivar Lazzaro proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Apic drivers enhancements (second approach): L2 refactor https://review.openstack.org/116155 | 19:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | badveli_vishnuus proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add service group as a firewall customized service https://review.openstack.org/106274 | 19:35 |
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| markmcclain | kevinbenton: I think that what jeblair and jaypipes are saying is that DVR would have worked a lot better if we used a feature branch | 19:40 |
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| markmcclain | we can iterate faster on those and since the code is destined for the master branch the history is properly preserved | 19:40 |
| markmcclain | also feature branch merges could be treated same as grad from incubator to projects that form their own repo | 19:41 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: I think we should followup on the basic idea of the binding:host port attribute specifying the “location” that the port is being bound, and what that means for both ironic and appliance use cases. | 19:42 |
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| jaypipes | yes, what markmcclain said. :) | 19:45 |
| ofer | markmcclain: Would you be able to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55987/ ? It has path validation from the router to the internal IP, done with mostly sqlalchemy. | 19:51 |
| openstackgerrit | pritesh proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove the Cisco Nexus monolithic plugin https://review.openstack.org/116028 | 19:52 |
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| markmcclain | ofer: yes will take a look | 19:58 |
| ofer | markmcclain: thanks! | 19:58 |
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| nlahouti | markmcclain: Hi, do you have a moment? | 20:01 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: if i do a big refactor, will you have a few minutes to look at it tomorrow | 20:04 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: Big refactor of your current patch? | 20:04 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: yeah, because it’s going to die a terrible death i assume anyway | 20:05 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: and the host_id does fit well with the current mechanism drivers | 20:05 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: i don’t need all of these extra special physical port attachment drivers that I had | 20:05 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I’d recommend giving it a try | 20:05 |
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| kevinbenton | markmcclain: yes, i definitely agree about the feature branch | 20:06 |
| kevinbenton | markmcclain: what i had an issue with was the claim that all of this was a result of a crappy neutron internal API | 20:06 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I promise I will make time to look it over, or to discuss any issues you run into | 20:06 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: Is your basic initial requirement to have a switch “bind” the port as untagged traffic on a switch port? | 20:09 |
| kevinbenton | jaypipes: right. i was just pointing out that the incubator was created for these things that don’t want their own lifecycle | 20:09 |
| kevinbenton | jaypipes: otherwise they would probably just be projects on their own anyway | 20:09 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: essentially. the format would allow a tag as well if necessary | 20:10 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: switch_id:port_id:vlan_tag | 20:10 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: or something along those lines | 20:10 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: So would it be possible to “bind” several neutron ports to different tags on the same switch port? | 20:10 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: yes | 20:10 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Makes sense, I think | 20:11 |
| rkukura | Who selects that VLAN tag that gets used? | 20:11 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: that’s up to the requestor. it’s strictly a tag that they expect to show up on the port | 20:12 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: has nothing to do with the tags used by the segment for the provider network | 20:12 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: I think this idea might be workable, with support for these specially formatted host strings either being added to existing mechanism drivers, or implemented in new mechanism drivers. | 20:13 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: yes, that’s a pretty clean approach and i don’t have to re-invent the wheel of binding via multiple drivers, etc | 20:14 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: These mechanism drivers would need to implement bind_port(), and would need to set some new binding:vif_type field that indicates a successful being to a switch port. | 20:14 |
| rkukura | s/being/binding/ | 20:14 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: yep. similar to how i did IVS here, right? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113749/ | 20:15 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: right | 20:15 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: ok. i’ll try to put something together to get your feedback tomorrow | 20:16 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: you could even use binding:vif_details to convey info back to ironic, if needed | 20:16 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: ok | 20:17 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: That could be used, for instance, if you wanted to let neutron decide which VLAN tag gets used. | 20:17 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: well in the ironic case, i don’t think they would have any vlan tags since these are baremetal servers that will end up running an arbitrary OS | 20:18 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: they would most likely just want access ports so configuration of the gues OS is unnecessary | 20:19 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I’d imagine different VLANs might be used for things like control/management networks, tenant network tunnels, external networks, storage networks, …, portentially all on the same NIC (or bonded pair of NICs) | 20:19 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: for ironic? | 20:21 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: I’m thinking of OOO | 20:22 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: oh, yes. that’s possible | 20:22 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Is ironic used for the undercloud in triple-O these days? | 20:23 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: i think the host_id string would have to have a keyword to indicate that neutron should select the tag | 20:23 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: makes sense | 20:23 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: i’m not sure. i was just interested in it for the batemetal heavy workloads | 20:23 |
| rkukura | not sure most switches can assign VLAN tags independently for each port | 20:23 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: but I’m only familiar with tiny switches ;) | 20:24 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: yeah, it depends on what the OS exposes. most of them have a VLAN translation table | 20:26 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: but that keyword to let the MD select it should alleviate that issue | 20:27 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: sounds good | 20:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Remove BPs which didn't make the Juno cut. https://review.openstack.org/117623 | 21:07 |
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| Sukhdev | markmcclain: Hi | 21:16 |
| rkukura | mestery, markmcclain: Why not move the unimplemented BPs to different directory instead of removing them altogether. This history could certainly be useful | 21:16 |
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| mestery | rkukura: That's possible, but I thought it best to start fresh | 21:16 |
| mestery | Because what happens if we move them somewhere and they become abandoned? | 21:17 |
| rkukura | mestery: Too late I think | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: this history is still there | 21:17 |
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| rkukura | markmcclain, mestery: This history is there, but not easy to search for or anything | 21:18 |
| rkukura | I would have preferred moving them from specs/juno to specs/juno-unimplemented or something like that. | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | yeah… I think that is limitation until we get storyboard | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | Sukhdev: hi | 21:18 |
| Sukhdev | markmcclain: Quick question for you (heard this is your expertise) | 21:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Fix l3 agent scheduling logic to avoid unwanted failures https://review.openstack.org/115383 | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | Sukhdev: sure… what's up? | 21:20 |
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| Sukhdev | markmcclain: I have a KVM based VM where I am running my CI and am launching test VMs in it and keep failing to hotplug nic to them | 21:20 |
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| Sukhdev | markmcclain: exception is logged from libvirt | 21:20 |
| Sukhdev | markmcclain: Any tricks you can suggest to work around the issue? | 21:21 |
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| Sukhdev | markmcclain: BTW, I am using 1.2.2 version of libvirtd | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | what exception are you getting? | 21:24 |
| nunizacu | guys help, it's fifth day i'm stuck with errors like nova.virt.libvirt.vif [instance: e0b009f7-fb06-4361-bd51-23a8269065bc] Stderr: 'interface qvb3f5fb528-60 does not exist!\n' whenever i try to start instance | 21:25 |
| Sukhdev | markmcclain: something to do with libvirt not being able to hot plug the nic | 21:26 |
| Sukhdev | markmcclain: Have killed the VM, so lost the exact exception | 21:26 |
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| markmcclain | Sukhdev: hmmm.. would be nice to have the exact exception | 21:27 |
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| Sukhdev | markmcclain: Looking in the code where the exception hits - | 21:28 |
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| nunizacu | i thought it's typo in code so i changed so the veth pair is actualy created but no communication in or out openstack | 21:30 |
| nunizacu | now i upgraded code and have it again so this must be something else | 21:31 |
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| Sukhdev | markmcclain: here is the exact line where the exception happens - raise libvirtError ('virDomainAttachDeviceFlags() failed', dom=self) | 21:34 |
| Sukhdev | markmcclain: The flag that is set is VIR_DOMAIN_AFFECT_LIVE | 21:34 |
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| Sukhdev | markmcclain: could it be because KVM needs some specific setting/config to support hotplugin? | 21:35 |
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| markmcclain | kvm should support it | 21:39 |
| Sukhdev | markmcclain: I am running another VM in fusion, which is using QEMU and it works just fine on it, but, have not had any luck with KVM - hence suspecting perhaps missing some knob | 21:40 |
| Sukhdev | markmcclain: In Minneapolis, when we tested VM migration, we had to upgrade the libvirt to 1.2.5 - you think something like that may be needed here to support this hotplug functionality? | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | 1.2.2 should support it | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | what is the libvirt error? | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | do you see anything in dmesg? | 21:43 |
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| Sukhdev | markmcclain: I did not check dmesg, but the libvirt error is virDomainAttachDeviceFlags() failed | 21:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Subnets with prefix length 0 are invalid https://review.openstack.org/117632 | 21:56 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: ping | 21:57 |
| salv-orlando | aloha kevinbenton | 21:57 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: what do you have against /0 subnets? | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | dhcp does not work. | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | they do not make sense | 21:58 |
| kevinbenton | why doesn’t it work? | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | I’ll add a trace to the bug report | 21:58 |
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| salv-orlando | it’s dnsmasq - it won’t start. | 21:58 |
| kevinbenton | sounds like a dnsmasq problem :-) | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | so you’re suggesting I fix dnsmasq? | 21:59 |
| kevinbenton | that might be hard | 21:59 |
| kevinbenton | i don’t like discriminating against /0 though | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | what do you do with a /0 subnet? | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | and also since dnsmasq fails the dhcp agent keeps resyncing | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | with an issue like that I would be ok with discriminating against a /0 subnet | 22:01 |
| salv-orlando | you can call me a racist if you want | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | larger subnets need love too :’( | 22:02 |
| * mestery has patches merged upstream into dnsmasq, it's not hard just ... odd. | 22:02 | |
| kevinbenton | i suspect you would do twice as much with a /0 as you would with a /1 | 22:03 |
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| kevinbenton | can you put a note in your patch that it’s because of dnsmasq and not because there is something funamentally incorrect with it? | 22:03 |
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| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: but that standard /0 subnets are the most useful at all. Pity their not a subnet. | 22:04 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: there is also a little problem that the default route and local scope are identical | 22:05 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: well there wouldn’t exactly be a default route, since the subnet contains everything :-) | 22:05 |
| fungi | (unless you consider a subnet to be like a subset in set theory, in which case the set s is technically also a proper subset of the set s) | 22:05 |
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| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: you’re going metaphisical! | 22:05 |
| salv-orlando | I think there might be an interesting parallel betwene subnetting and leibniz’s monad theory | 22:06 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: they are similar in that there are approximately the same number of people interested in them? | 22:07 |
| * fungi wandered in late. i have context from the bug, but what is the current concern? just that there needs to be a more explicit comment added as to why /0 isn't allowed for a cidr in a neutron network? | 22:07 | |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: that is a similarity | 22:07 |
| kevinbenton | fungi: yes | 22:07 |
| salv-orlando | I think kevinbenton is merely saying that even if rarely used they’re conceptually correct | 22:08 |
| salv-orlando | probably the think fungi was saying about a set being considered a subset of itself. | 22:08 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: yeah | 22:08 |
| fungi | user-facing comment, or code comment? i could get behind a code comment which says something like "we're disallowing /0 here because dnsmasq goes toes up, and also it's a silly choice of value" | 22:08 |
| kevinbenton | fungi: code comment | 22:08 |
| kevinbenton | i will now have to cancel my work of scaling to 4 billion VMs in a single network | 22:09 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: and here you’re at fault as you’re not using ipv6 ;) | 22:09 |
| fungi | anyway, from an operator/user perspective, i can't imagine actually balking when the ui tells me to go away because /0 isn't an allowed mask | 22:09 |
| salv-orlando | fungi: indeed I only found out it was possibly when I created it by mistake | 22:10 |
| salv-orlando | I mean then if we keep allowing it we should disallow things like attaching to a router | 22:10 |
| salv-orlando | because that subnet would become a 2nd router gateway | 22:10 |
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| salv-orlando | and then if they’re attached to a provider router shared by many tenants, that subnet could cause hell of a disruption I think | 22:11 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: or correct the router to use policy based routing tables! | 22:11 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: how does a provider router work with overlapping IPs though? | 22:12 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: because even without /0 someone could cause a big disruption with /1 | 22:15 |
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| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: forget the thing about the routers, there are checks in place | 22:18 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: ok | 22:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Fix config option names in ml2_conf_sriov.ini https://review.openstack.org/114572 | 22:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Karthik Natarajan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implementation of Brocade Vyatta vRouter L3 Plugin https://review.openstack.org/102336 | 23:46 |
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