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| saurabh_ | I am facing a problem with DHCP discover packet (vlan tagged), when it leaves the machine, it's vlan tag get removed by ethernet interface of the machine, I am using rhel 6, do I need to change some configuration, because no problem with Ubuntu | 03:15 |
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| rkukura | saurabh_: Assuming you are using OVS, you may have a NIC that needs vlan splinters enabled with something like “ovs-vsctl set interface eth0 other-config:enable-vlan-splinters=true”. This is just a guess. | 03:35 |
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| saurabh_ | rkukura: yes I'm using OVS, thanks for suggestion I'll try it | 03:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Smith proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement migration of legacy routers to distributed https://review.openstack.org/105855 | 04:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Reset IPv6 detection flag after IPv6 tests https://review.openstack.org/119288 | 04:57 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura, nati_ueno, mestery, SumitNaiksatam: ping | 04:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Reset IPv6 detection flag after IPv6 tests https://review.openstack.org/119288 | 05:04 |
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| kevinbenton | any cores around? | 05:11 |
| nati_uen_ | kevinbenton: pong! | 05:11 |
| kevinbenton | nati_uen_: sorry, got disconnected for a sec | 05:11 |
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| kevinbenton | nati_uen_: a UT bug is blocking my patches in the gate | 05:11 |
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| kevinbenton | nati_uen_: this is the fix https://review.openstack.org/119288 | 05:12 |
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| nati_uen_ | kevinbenton: Looks good. could you ping me when Jenkins happy? I'll +2 | 05:13 |
| kevinbenton | nati_uen_: yes | 05:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Smith proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Updates to reschedule_router() for DVR https://review.openstack.org/119253 | 05:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Update URL of Ryu official site https://review.openstack.org/119295 | 06:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vivekanandan Narasimhan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix DVR to service DHCP Ports https://review.openstack.org/117185 | 06:07 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/118259 | 06:10 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | : nati_uen_: https://review.openstack.org/119288 is close to passing the gate | 06:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery rkukura: ^^^ | 06:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | https://review.openstack.org/119288 has passed jenkins | 06:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Xu Han Peng proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Allow DHCPv6 reply from server to client https://review.openstack.org/103811 | 06:15 |
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| kevinbenton | SumitNaiksatam: looks like that one had 9 gate victims | 06:18 |
| kevinbenton | SumitNaiksatam: | 06:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Li Ma proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Validate local_ip for Linuxbridge agent https://review.openstack.org/110529 | 06:19 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: ping | 06:20 |
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| amotoki | kevinbenton: hi | 06:21 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: looking for one more core for https://review.openstack.org/119288 | 06:21 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: that bug is sporadically murdering neutron patches in the gate | 06:21 |
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| amotoki | kevinbenton: looking | 06:22 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: logstash query if you want to see failures in gate | 06:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/python-neutronclient: Correct the bash completion of CLI https://review.openstack.org/107226 | 06:44 |
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| jschwarz | Good morning all :) | 06:52 |
| jschwarz | salv-orlando, amotoki, ping? | 06:52 |
| salv-orlando | jschwarz: I am mostly offline today (and you should be too). How can I help you? | 06:53 |
| jschwarz | salv-orlando, just need you to +2,+A the fixes from yesterday | 06:53 |
| jschwarz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119001/ needs +A | 06:53 |
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| jschwarz | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119034/ was already +2 by you but I uploaded a new chance set yesterday and it was lost | 06:54 |
| jschwarz | :) | 06:54 |
| jschwarz | but thanks for remembering I should be off today ;-) | 06:54 |
| salv-orlando | jschwarz: if marun_afk and amotoki are not around to approve the latter patch I will ninja approve it | 06:55 |
| salv-orlando | for now I just put a simple +2 | 06:55 |
| jschwarz | salv-orlando, I like ninjas xD | 06:56 |
| jschwarz | I'm sure either one will wake up soonish and help around | 06:56 |
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| jschwarz | salv-orlando, any plans for the weekend? | 06:56 |
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| salv-orlando | jschwarz: yes. don’t do any work. | 06:58 |
| trinaths | jschwarz: Hello. Good Morning | 06:58 |
| jschwarz | trinaths, hey mate | 06:58 |
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| trinaths | :) | 06:59 |
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| jschwarz | I see the gate's queue is still long | 06:59 |
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| jschwarz | hopefully it will thin out during the next few days | 07:00 |
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| marun | jschwarz: morning! | 09:09 |
| marun | jschwarz: wait, isn't it your weekend? | 09:10 |
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| marun | jschwarz: /url 1 | 09:15 |
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| jschwarz | marun, it is | 09:17 |
| jschwarz | marun, i'm dedicated ;-) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119034/ | 09:17 |
| jschwarz | the other one got +A by salv this morning and is on the queue | 09:18 |
| marun | jschwarz: congrats | 09:19 |
| jswiders | jschwarz: then go enjoy Your weekend in other ways than working on neutron :) | 09:19 |
| jschwarz | jswiders, hardly work - I'm playing hearthstone as we speak, IRC at the background | 09:19 |
| jswiders | jschwarz: hehe :) haven't played it since a long time | 09:20 |
| ajo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1365918 | 09:21 |
| jschwarz | ajo, morning mate | 09:21 |
| ajo | If somebody can, please raise importance to HIGH, working on it yet | 09:21 |
| ajo | jschwarz, jswiders, marun monrning | 09:21 |
| jswiders | morning | 09:21 |
| marun | ajo: morning | 09:21 |
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| jschwarz | marun_, if you could +A the patch I sent you i'll be off my way | 09:24 |
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| marun | jschwarz: surely | 09:24 |
| jschwarz | thank you, and don't call me shirly ;-) | 09:25 |
| marun | jschwarz: now we cross our fingers and hope the first patch lands first | 09:26 |
| jswiders | jschwarz: if I'll feel like playing hearthstone (ofc not now cause I'm at work :D) I'll ask You for battletag :P | 09:26 |
| ajo | jswiders, I have discovered it fails with "test_prepare_remove_port" | 09:26 |
| jschwarz | jswiders, Freezeil I think it is, otherwise catch me some other time | 09:27 |
| ajo | jswiders, more often than the update | 09:27 |
| jschwarz | marun, i'll check it on sunday and prey to god in the mean time | 09:27 |
| jswiders | jschwarz: there are also #<4numbers> | 09:27 |
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| jschwarz | jswiders, sec | 09:27 |
| jschwarz | #2625 | 09:28 |
| jswiders | ajo: I saw it and there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1365829 registered for it | 09:28 |
| jschwarz | have a nice weekend guys :) | 09:28 |
| jswiders | jschwarz: thanks I'll write it down | 09:28 |
| ajo | hmm I duplicated | 09:28 |
| ajo | let me look | 09:28 |
| jswiders | ajo: well if underlying cause is the same then yup but I'm not sure so far | 09:29 |
| ajo | ahhaaa | 09:29 |
| ajo | ahaa!!! | 09:29 |
| ajo | underlaying cfg flags? | 09:29 |
| ajo | let me check that | 09:29 |
| jswiders | ajo: yeah I didn't have time for that yet | 09:29 |
| jswiders | ajo: share what You find out | 09:29 |
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| ajo | tox running... | 09:30 |
| ajo | AHAAAA!!!!!! | 09:30 |
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| ajo | kevinbenton, THANKS | 09:30 |
| jswiders | ajo: so kevinbenton is better at debugging than we :P | 09:30 |
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| ajo | let find out why now... | 09:30 |
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| ajo | how did he find :) | 09:30 |
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| ajo | this remains me of something, | 09:31 |
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| ajo | we may be not be using system wide configs, but rebuilding them for tests | 09:31 |
| ajo | tweaking those could lead to unexpected things like this | 09:31 |
| jswiders | yeah | 09:31 |
| ajo | or at least, if tweaked, must be restored at cleanup | 09:31 |
| ajo | the bad side of rebuilding your cfg dict, is that needs more maintenance | 09:32 |
| ajo | that's the downside :( | 09:32 |
| ajo | hanzhang, ^ | 09:32 |
| ajo | Traceback (most recent call last): | 09:32 |
| ajo | File "neutron/tests/unit/test_security_groups_rpc.py", line 2542, in test_prepare_remove_port | 09:32 |
| ajo | self._verify_mock_calls() | 09:32 |
| ajo | marun, ^ | 09:32 |
| marun | jswiders: er | 09:33 |
| ajo | it's a config setting changed in some other tests, that affects this one... | 09:33 |
| marun | what config setting? | 09:33 |
| ajo | if ipv6 is left disabled, then the ipv6 calls aren't executed in iptables | 09:33 |
| marun | ajo: wtf does that have to do with security groups?? | 09:33 |
| marun | le sigh | 09:33 |
| ajo | SG's handle ipv6 and ipv4 ... | 09:33 |
| ajo | now | 09:34 |
| ajo | investigating | 09:34 |
| jswiders | marun: the fact that tests need to be rewritten so it has nothing to do :D | 09:34 |
| ajo | why does it fail only for the enhanced rpc, and not the other | 09:34 |
| kevinbenton | good news everyone! | 09:34 |
| marun | sure, but iptables execution shouldn't be tested in unit tests for sg | 09:34 |
| ajo | to check what's the exact situation and discard any other underlaying problem | 09:34 |
| marun | kevinbenton: we're going on a dangerous delivery? | 09:34 |
| ajo | marun, agreed!!, we must be tackling that out next week | 09:34 |
| kevinbenton | marun: it’s not. just iptables code won’t do ipv6 rules if ipv6 isn’t enabled IIUC | 09:34 |
| ajo | kevinbenton, how did you find out? | 09:35 |
| kevinbenton | testr has a failure bisection feature that actually worked for the first time in a million years :-) | 09:35 |
| ajo | kevinbenton, teach us how to use that! | 09:35 |
| kevinbenton | download the subunit log from one of the failures to extract the tests from the failed node | 09:35 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: you've had trouble with analyze-failures? | 09:36 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: i’m just being dramatic :-) i’ll explain my previous experience in a sec | 09:36 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Testr | 09:36 |
| ajo | :/bisect | 09:36 |
| ajo | %) | 09:36 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: “reproducing failures" | 09:36 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: it’s the —analyze-isolation | 09:37 |
| jswiders | kevinbenton: how could we never heard of this :P this should be more visible ^^ thanks | 09:37 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: so the bisection doesn’t work when the failure is not deterministic | 09:37 |
| lifeless | ah yes | 09:38 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: e.g. something relying on the order of a conversion of a set to a list | 09:38 |
| lifeless | there's no allowance for randomness | 09:38 |
| lifeless | just interactions | 09:38 |
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| ajo | awesome | 09:39 |
| ajo | ok, kevinbenton if you already didn't I'm going to analyze what's happening under the hood with this, | 09:40 |
| ajo | I wonder why it doesn't happen for the normal SG RPC but yes for the "enhanced" | 09:40 |
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| kevinbenton | ajo: i just know that it marked ipv6 as disabled | 09:40 |
| ajo | yes | 09:40 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: it all depends on how tests get ordered | 09:40 |
| ajo | makes total sense | 09:40 |
| ajo | ipv6 = off == half iptables calls | 09:40 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: if the test_enabled happend to go after test_disabled, then everything works great | 09:40 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: or if test_disabled gets assigned to a different concurrent test worked | 09:41 |
| ajo | kevinbenton++ | 09:41 |
| ajo | kevinbenton, so it's just a matter of cleaning up after the ipv6 test | 09:41 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: this was wonderful to try to uncover with —analyze-isolation | 09:41 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: https://code.google.com/p/mock/issues/detail?id=226&can=4 | 09:41 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: right | 09:41 |
| hanzhang | ipv6 = off == half iptables calls: agree | 09:41 |
| ajo | hanzhang, but why not for the old SG RPC ? | 09:42 |
| ajo | this is my only last question | 09:42 |
| jswiders | ajo: maybe we just had extreme luck that it never scheduled tests in order that would cause failure :P | 09:42 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: we were likely winning a game of russian roullette | 09:43 |
| ajo | ahhh | 09:43 |
| ajo | I found it I think | 09:43 |
| ajo | # firewall instead | 09:43 |
| ajo | self.iptables.use_ipv6 = True | 09:43 |
| ajo | this is done for the Iptables normal test, | 09:43 |
| ajo | but we don't enforce it on the other | 09:43 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: doesn’t the enhanced inherit the setup method? | 09:43 |
| jswiders | ajo: but we use super | 09:43 |
| ajo | jswiders, yes, but I believe some parts are re-defined | 09:43 |
| ajo | I just saw it analyzing the failure | 09:44 |
| ajo | may be the test needs a bit of cleanup before the final cleanup | 09:44 |
| ajo | self.iptables = self.agent.firewall.iptables | 09:44 |
| ajo | # TODO(jlibosva) Get rid of mocking iptables execute and mock out | 09:44 |
| ajo | # firewall instead | 09:44 |
| ajo | self.iptables.use_ipv6 = True | 09:44 |
| ajo | (seeing jlibosva coments again) ;) | 09:44 |
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| ajo | in TestSEcurityGroupAgentEnhancedRpcWithIptables, we see again: | 09:45 |
| ajo | self.iptables = self.agent.firewall.iptables | 09:45 |
| ajo | self.iptables_execute = mock.patch.object(self.iptables, | 09:45 |
| ajo | "execute").start() | 09:45 |
| ajo | ... | 09:45 |
| ajo | that's why this is happening only there | 09:45 |
| ajo | ok, | 09:45 |
| ajo | I'm going to refactor that a bit for now to avoid this problem | 09:45 |
| ajo | until we can start working on refactoring the SG UT tests for better | 09:45 |
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| ajo | kevinbenton, do you have time to add a cleanup to the ipv6 tests, and I will refactor a bit the test_security_group_rpc to avoid derived problems from the current code? | 09:49 |
| ajo | I could go for it too if you can't | 09:49 |
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| ajo | the hard part was actually finding out :) | 09:49 |
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| kevinbenton | ajo: uh, there is already a fix in the gate | 09:49 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119288/ | 09:50 |
| ajo | kevinbenton, perfect!! ;) | 09:50 |
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| kevinbenton | ajo: yeah, that bug is holding two of my patches hostage | 09:50 |
| ajo | I will cleanup the rpc test btw :) | 09:50 |
| ajo | kevinbenton, sorry about that :/ | 09:51 |
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| kevinbenton | ajo: not your fault | 09:52 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: or is it? :-) | 09:52 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/b6e9922364fca4d8d141fbb2f27024f7db79ca9e | 09:53 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: that planted the land mine | 09:53 |
| jswiders | kevinbenton: ajo is refering to the fact that failing tests were added by him | 09:54 |
| ajo | yeah, but better review of the enhanced SG RPC would have avoided it, even the mine was from somewhere else | 09:54 |
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| kevinbenton | ah, that would have been hard to catch | 09:54 |
| kevinbenton | ipv6 one clearly mutates a module variable and didn’t clean up | 09:55 |
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| ajo | kevinbenton, do you know if the global cfg dictionary | 09:59 |
| ajo | is reloaded between tests ? | 09:59 |
| ajo | or cfg.CONF.set_override could eventually make the same problem? | 09:59 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: it’s destroyed and setup IIRC | 10:00 |
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| ajo | that's good | 10:01 |
| jswiders | kevinbenton: wiki only explains how to do this after You reproduce it locally - how to do it with subunit_log.txt.gz downloaded from gate ? | 10:02 |
| kevinbenton | jswiders: cat <filedownloaded> | subunit-filter -s --xfail --with-tag=worker-3 | subunit-ls > slave-3.list | 10:02 |
| kevinbenton | jswiders: i had some funky unicode chars in the result list that i had to strip out | 10:03 |
| kevinbenton | jswiders: not sure if i just have an old version of testr/subunit though | 10:03 |
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| kevinbenton | ajo: hmmm marun hid that config setup code form me in his refactor :-) | 10:05 |
| jswiders | kevinbenton: thanks - and the unicode chars are also present for me | 10:05 |
| kevinbenton | jswiders: iconv -c -f utf-8 -t ascii slave-5.list > fix.list | 10:06 |
| jswiders | kevinbenton: thank you :) | 10:06 |
| kevinbenton | jswiders: that’s also a miniature game of russian roullette becuase one of the mangled names could be the failure causing test :-) | 10:06 |
| jswiders | :D | 10:06 |
| kevinbenton | jswiders: so do one full run using that list with testr and you should get the failure | 10:07 |
| ajo | kevinbenton, what do you mean with " hid that config setup code form me in his refactor :-)" ? :-) | 10:07 |
| kevinbenton | jswiders: then do the —analyze-isolation | 10:07 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: used to be in the base test file | 10:07 |
| ajo | ah | 10:07 |
| ajo | hid->did | 10:07 |
| ajo | :) | 10:07 |
| ajo | ? | 10:07 |
| ajo | :) | 10:07 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: no, “hid” as in he refactored it to somewhere else from where i knew it to be | 10:08 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: oh, found it. nevermind | 10:09 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/base.py#L150 | 10:09 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: that’s called in the base test case setup so it will reload the config for every test | 10:09 |
| ajo | ahh :) | 10:10 |
| ajo | kevinbenton, thanks for the teachings ;) | 10:10 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: no prob. i learned the hard way by writing really bad unit tests | 10:12 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: i still write really bad unit tests, but I’ve gotten faster at debugging them :-) | 10:12 |
| ajo | yes, community wise we have to teach ourselves a bit about testing, | 10:13 |
| ajo | yesterday we where discussing about how problematic is checking mocked calls everywhere, | 10:13 |
| ajo | you change one parameter, and tests blow away in many places ... | 10:14 |
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| ajo | it's better to make more testable code, which can be tested without checking mocked calls | 10:15 |
| ajo | marun, ^ | 10:15 |
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| ajo | and we were thinking about building a list of bad testing practices, with examples about how to do it better | 10:16 |
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| ajo | kevinbenton, I'm not an expert -at all-, just a beginner trying to avoid bad patterns. But we could use the knowledge of the more experienced people | 10:17 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: that would be useful | 10:18 |
| ajo | for example, git link + your patch for the ipv6 part, would be a good example | 10:18 |
| ajo | whre could we start that in the wiki? | 10:18 |
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| kevinbenton | ajo: marun might have a good idea. he is the senior chief director vice president distinguished architect of testing | 10:22 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: i’m heading to bed now. late for me. in a bad cycle of sleep in stay up late | 10:23 |
| ajo | :) | 10:23 |
| ajo | kevinbenton, good night | 10:24 |
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| kevinbenton | ajo: good night (or whatever part of the day it is where you are lunch?) | 10:25 |
| kevinbenton | ajo: afternoon? | 10:25 |
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| ajo | kevinbenton, afternoon here :) | 10:36 |
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| lifeless | kevinbenton: nice yes | 10:39 |
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| lifeless | kevinbenton: so thats not an isolation problem - --until-failure is perhaps better for that one | 10:40 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: well it would manifest because a mock would be left in place of something like httpconnection | 10:42 |
| kevinbenton | lifeless: so the failure wouldn’t occure until some test way down the line expected a real httpconnection | 10:42 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: ah, I see | 10:42 |
| lifeless | kevinbenton: so indeed isolation, but nondeterministic | 10:43 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: yeah, took me a couple of days of digging to finally land in the core of mock with a list(set()) | 10:44 |
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| kevinbenton | lifeless: so now mock supports that :-) http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/727b7e9c40e3 | 10:45 |
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| jswiders | kevinbenton: good nigh :) | 10:46 |
| jswiders | night* | 10:46 |
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| Akshik | is neutron ml2 for vcenter available | 12:15 |
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| Akshik | are there any opensource plugin other than nsx and plumgrid for vcenter | 12:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Avoid testing code duplication which introduced testing bugs. https://review.openstack.org/119358 | 12:18 |
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| ajo | amotoki, mestery, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119358/2 added this in conjunction to what kevin benton did here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119288/ , to avoid any other hidden bugs related to the same code duplication. | 12:22 |
| ajo | the problem was partly the ipv6 tests, partly code duplication in the security tests group | 12:22 |
| ajo | jswiders, ^ | 12:22 |
| jswiders | ajo: I | 12:24 |
| jswiders | I'm already looking at it* | 12:24 |
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| mestery | ajo: Will look this morning, thanks! | 12:34 |
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| ajo | thanks mestery jswiders | 12:43 |
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| jswiders | ajo: overall tests cleanup and fixing will be done separately ? this only cleans up setups ? | 12:47 |
| ajo | jswiders, refactors the setups, to avoid the code duplicated which generated the bug | 12:48 |
| ajo | I could just add self.iptables.use_ipv6 = True | 12:48 |
| ajo | and then do the refactor in a second step | 12:48 |
| ajo | jswiders, is that what you mean? | 12:48 |
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| ajo | I thought of that, but was unsure of the value | 12:49 |
| ajo | for example if it was a cross release bug, that'd be good for backporting | 12:49 |
| ajo | but as it's a short lived bug, I wasn't sure, can be done, btw | 12:49 |
| ajo | jswiders, ^ | 12:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Avoid testing code duplication which introduced testing bugs https://review.openstack.org/119358 | 12:50 |
| dmellado | Akshik | 12:50 |
| dmellado | Midonet plugin will support that config soon | 12:50 |
| dmellado | you might want to check it out | 12:50 |
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| ajo | ahh no jswiders your comments are about something else | 12:52 |
| ajo | I'll check what can be further refactored without going too much out of scope, thanks | 12:52 |
| jswiders | ajo: nvm disregard my question here - and just look at comments I posted ^^ | 12:53 |
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| Akshik | dmellado, Thanks | 12:56 |
| Akshik | dmellado, is it opensource or commercial | 12:57 |
| jswiders | ajo: my question was related to some mistakes in tests itself which is out of scope for this patch | 12:57 |
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| dmellado | it's a commercial one: http://www.midokura.com/midonet/openstack/ | 12:59 |
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| jswiders | ajo: noooo :D | 13:06 |
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| jswiders | ajo: set_firewall_driver I didn't mean for You to delete set_firewall_driver - it's used in other modules - I was merely suggesting using it in this one too because it fits into setups You refractor | 13:07 |
| jswiders | ommit first set_firewall_driver :P | 13:07 |
| ajo | ah jswiders I understood the opposite | 13:07 |
| ajo | why is it set there and used in other modules? | 13:08 |
| jswiders | that I have no idea | 13:08 |
| ajo | :? | 13:08 |
| jswiders | but if You do grep -r "set_firewall_driver" * You will see its used | 13:08 |
| ajo | jswiders, btw, we use cfg_CONF.set_default, while the function uses cfg.CONF.set_override | 13:09 |
| ajo | I suppose it's the same | 13:09 |
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| ajo | in the end | 13:09 |
| ajo | (for this testing purpose | 13:09 |
| jswiders | hmm L2005 uses override | 13:09 |
| jswiders | but yeah first one uses default | 13:10 |
| jswiders | maybe ask someone if there is difference to this for testing purpose | 13:10 |
| ajo | let's try changing into set_firewall | 13:10 |
| ajo | I suppose there is not | 13:10 |
| ajo | default = just set the default = you will get that value | 13:10 |
| ajo | override = set the value ... | 13:10 |
| ajo | I suppose if you override, and later default, then you keep the override | 13:11 |
| ajo | cornercase | 13:11 |
| jswiders | may be so | 13:11 |
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| leakypipes | mestery: around? | 13:12 |
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| mestery | leakypipes: o/ | 13:13 |
| leakypipes | mestery: I'm curious about your response to danpd's proposal, where you said "Given we have 20+ | 13:13 |
| leakypipes | drivers/plugins now, one git repository per driver/plugin won't scale" | 13:13 |
| leakypipes | mestery: wondering why you think that won't scale? | 13:13 |
| leakypipes | mestery: seems that git repos are a pretty low barrier to entry, no? | 13:13 |
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| mestery | leakypipes: I'm reading that thread now, and I think I was wrong :) | 13:14 |
| mestery | leakypipes: Exactly, my assumption on infra requirements were wrong I thnk | 13:14 |
| leakypipes | mestery: ah, I see. were you assuming every driver repo would get its own CI system supported by the infra team? | 13:14 |
| mestery | leakypipes: Yes, and also the overhead of tagging, releasing, etc. But it's not as bad as I thought. | 13:15 |
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| leakypipes | mestery: I think having good documentation where driver core teams (or driver "infra teams"?) could go for self-service support would go a long way towards alleviating things, especially if the onus on quality is placed entirely on the driver team itself. | 13:16 |
| mestery | leakypipes: Yes, that and tightening up the APIs drivers use so they can happily live out of tree would also make some sense. | 13:17 |
| leakypipes | mestery: well, yeah, those are the foundational bricks that need to be layed first in all the projects. | 13:17 |
| leakypipes | mestery: Cinder has done the best job so far in that regard. | 13:17 |
| leakypipes | mestery: and I think neutron is sadly lagging behind in that arena -- in terms of stable, versioned, "objectified" internal APIs. | 13:18 |
| leakypipes | mestery: as are some parts of Nova, as I've mentioned on the ML :) | 13:18 |
| leakypipes | scheduler comms, for example | 13:18 |
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| ZZelle | mestery, leakypipes, adding 20+ repos seems not to scale as it will generate code duplication between git repos for sure | 13:19 |
| mestery | leakypipes: Ack on that, I'd like to see us focus on that for kilo to be honest, it needs to be in the bucket list | 13:19 |
| mestery | leakypipes: I'm happy we're having this conversation on the ML though, it's very healthy for the project | 13:20 |
| leakypipes | ZZelle: no entirely sure I agree with that :) I think if anything it would *encourage* code re-use and libification | 13:20 |
| leakypipes | ZZelle: since there will be pressure to identify the utils and other common things that should be made into an importable "neutron-common" library | 13:21 |
| leakypipes | ZZelle: in much the same way Oslo originated | 13:21 |
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| leakypipes | mestery: yeah, totally agreed. it's a great conversation to have, and one, as a TC member, I'm very much interested in seeing what comes out of it. | 13:21 |
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| leakypipes | mestery: I actually think some of the principles of divide et imperum should be taken "up a level" to the governing structure of OpenStack at large, and we should get rid of the whole concept of Programs. | 13:22 |
| leakypipes | mestery: but that's another ML post ;) | 13:22 |
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| mestery | leakypipes: As I just wrote in my response this morning, I think there won't be a "one size fits all" solution, but rather each project may require a tweaked solution | 13:23 |
| leakypipes | sure, absolutely. | 13:23 |
| leakypipes | no disagreement at all from me on that | 13:23 |
| mestery | leakypipes: :) | 13:23 |
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| marun | leakypipes: What are the problems with programs? too broad? | 13:28 |
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| leakypipes | marun: yes, and they limit innovation, IMO, by consolidating power centers and inceitivizing the status quo solutions. | 13:29 |
| maroon | (in the spirit of casual nick fridays) | 13:29 |
| mestery | maroon: Love it ;) | 13:29 |
| mestery | I can't argue with that assessment leakypipes, it's spot on to be honest. | 13:29 |
| leakypipes | maroon: and I hate that the TC is asked to pick the winners and losers in spaces that are clearly either unsettled or are replete with already existing open source solutions. | 13:29 |
| leakypipes | mestery: as long as he doesn't change it to maroon5, I'll be fine. :P | 13:30 |
| maroon | leakypipes: that's a bridge too far, even for me | 13:30 |
| leakypipes | hehe | 13:30 |
| * mestery breathres a sigh of releif | 13:30 | |
| maroon | leakypipes: How to balance the need for innovation with the need for ensuring stability though? | 13:30 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I get that the existing system entrenches power, but we do need to defend against novelty for its own sake too. | 13:30 |
| maroon | leakypipes: or NIH | 13:30 |
| leakypipes | maroon: simple: by focusing efforts around public APIs. | 13:31 |
| maroon | leakypipes: _and_ NIH | 13:31 |
| leakypipes | maroon: and I agree with you on the defense against NIH for the sake of NIH | 13:31 |
| maroon | leakypipes: so integration at the API level alone? | 13:31 |
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| leakypipes | maroon: no, I mean that IMO we should have strong governance structure around keeping public APIs stable. Having strong governance structure around keeping implementations as the decided "winner" is not useful, IMO. | 13:32 |
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| leakypipes | In other words, I'd be cool with disbanding the TC and having an API committee whose purpose was to enforce consistency, ease-of-use principles, and standardization of APIs. Couple that committee with the Czar approach from ttx for handling the mundane day-to=-day operations as well as the big-bang release activities, and be done with it all :) | 13:34 |
| mestery | leakypipes: So, just some small tweaks here and there then? ;) | 13:34 |
| leakypipes | mestery: yuyp, nothing major. | 13:35 |
| leakypipes | :) | 13:35 |
| mestery | lol | 13:35 |
| maroon | I'm not sure I see how that would affect programs like networking though. | 13:35 |
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| leakypipes | maroon: It would mean that an API committee would review public API changes and proposals. Other than that, there'd be no rigid structure. If Neutron wanted to have a PTL, cool. Ten PTLs, cool. Czars and Queens, cool. Basically, it would coordinate with ttx on how it would want to handle day-to-day and release activities, but there'd be nothing like the TC (post-)graduation review. | 13:37 |
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| leakypipes | maroon: if customers of Neutron came batting down Neutron's doors saying that the most important thing for Neutron to focus on was making toast, then Neutron's contributor community would self-organize to make that a reality. | 13:38 |
| leakypipes | or s/making toast/integration with, say Nova,/ | 13:38 |
| leakypipes | but, you get the idea.. | 13:38 |
| leakypipes | less rigid structure from the TC down, and more "let the bazaar flourish" approach | 13:39 |
| leakypipes | and if some group comes along and has implemented the Neutron public API with a completely different way or design, so be it. Let the best solution serve the customer (and that doesn't mean there is always a one-size-fits-all approach. The best fit for one customer may be a bad fit for another) | 13:40 |
| trinaths | Hi all | 13:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Juergen Brendel proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Implement ebtables manager https://review.openstack.org/119343 | 13:42 |
| maroon | Who defines and evolves the networking API? | 13:43 |
| maroon | And how do they do it without close cooperation with implementers? | 13:43 |
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| leakypipes | maroon: the contributors in the Neutron project would define and evolve the netowrking API, with approval of major changes or additions coming from a cross-project, elected API standards committee. | 13:44 |
| maroon | I guess your proposal raises more questions for me than it answers. | 13:44 |
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| leakypipes | maroon: not surprising :) I'm kinda braindumping here ;) | 13:45 |
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| maroon | mestery: I'm sorry if I've missed it, but has there been any discussion around how splitting things out of neutron is going to affect db migrations? | 14:02 |
| mestery | maroon: To be honest, we haven't gotten to that level, it's one of the details which need sorting | 14:02 |
| maroon | mestery: It would seem like a major stumbling block given how important it is to stop branching our migration timeline. | 14:02 |
| maroon | mestery: Wouldn't separate repos imply either allowing branching (at least one for each plugin) or maybe that each plugin manage their data in a separate db? | 14:02 |
| mestery | maroon: No doubt. | 14:02 |
| mestery | maroon: If we do the latter (separate DB per plugin), that seems simpler from a development perspective, but harder from an operational perspective. | 14:02 |
| maroon | mestery: the whole resource extension model as currently practiced also would seem like an impediment | 14:02 |
| mestery | maroon: I'm beginning to think we should have an etherpad for this so we can get this all out and see how bad this will be. :) | 14:02 |
| maroon | mestery++ | 14:02 |
| * mestery goes to create one ... | 14:02 | |
| maroon | mestery: Reading danpb's email has made me think that we're going to have a hard time doing this quickly | 14:02 |
| mestery | maroon: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-plugin-separation | 14:02 |
| maroon | mestery: i.e. we're not going to be able to shed the reviewer burden in kilo :( | 14:02 |
| mestery | maroon: Doing something of this magnitude may require planning for more than one cycle, something I think will be hard. | 14:02 |
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| maroon | leakypipes: Don't we have that defacto anyway? | 14:05 |
| leakypipes | maroon: have what? there's no API committee or standardization process for APIs right now... | 14:07 |
| maroon | leakypipes: any person implementing an api has a natural responsibility to make sure it's done right. | 14:10 |
| maroon | leakypipes: we don't let just anyone do it | 14:10 |
| leakypipes | maroon: sure, but that's not the same thing as making sure an API is consistent and standardized across a range of related APIs. | 14:11 |
| leakypipes | maroon: case in point: just check out how many different terms and ways that "metadata" can be queried and applied to various objects across all the OpenStack APIs... | 14:12 |
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| leakypipes | heck, even within Nova there's like 6 different terms for metadata. :( | 14:12 |
| maroon | leakypipes: no offense, but we have such bigger problems | 14:13 |
| maroon | leakypipes: stability and scalability, for 2 | 14:13 |
| maroon | leakypipes: gate/infra being chronically under-resourced for 3 | 14:14 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I'd much rather see some overarching focus on common engineering problems than more procedural stuff | 14:14 |
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| leakypipes | maroon: I'm attempting to take *away* the procedural issues around incubation, project management, graduation. If we didn't have this constant pressure cooker within infra to get external CI systems running, I think that would free up quite a bit of resources to work on more common stuff. | 14:16 |
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| maroon | leakypipes: er | 14:19 |
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| maroon | leakypipes: I guess this is the idea of moving towards looser affiliation? | 14:19 |
| leakypipes | maroon: yes. | 14:19 |
| leakypipes | maroon: with the public APIs being the fulcrum for common cause, instead of the implementation. | 14:20 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I think looser affiliation makes sense to me | 14:20 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I don't know about the implementation mattering any less, though. | 14:21 |
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| maroon | leakypipes: The problems I'm seeing in Neutron aren't that people are trying to do better things and we're not letting them. | 14:21 |
| leakypipes | maroon: I'm not saying the implementation doesn't matter. I'm just saying that the top-level governance structure should be focused around the API, with the implementation left entirely up to the sub-community working on that part of OpenStack. | 14:22 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I guess I don't really understand what the TC does today. | 14:23 |
| leakypipes | maroon: right now, the TC picks the winners and losers in a given space. I hate that. I would much rather a top-level governance body be concerned about the public APIs than picking winning or losing implementations of that public API. | 14:23 |
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| leakypipes | maroon: "picking winners and losers in a given space" == the incubation and graduation to integrated status process | 14:24 |
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| leakypipes | maroon: ^^ is the responsibillity of the TC. | 14:24 |
| leakypipes | which is what I hate. | 14:24 |
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| leakypipes | I'd much rather let a thousand flowers bloom in the implementation space and focus top-level governance and committees on the APIs. | 14:24 |
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| maroon | leakypipes: I have extremely mixed feelings about that | 14:27 |
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| maroon | leakypipes: We have a shortage of good developers, and I don't think giving them less reason to cooperate (f you, I'll go my own way) would be an unalloyed win. | 14:28 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I think it sucks that we've gotten to the point where revolutionary change is required. | 14:28 |
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| maroon | leakypipes: I think we're in for major pain no matter what we choose. | 14:28 |
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| leakypipes | maroon: yeah. I'm just throwing out ideas here, nothing more. | 14:29 |
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| maroon | leakypipes: I wonder at the fact that our collective reaction to major problems is to propose revolutionary changes in structure and process. | 14:30 |
| maroon | leakypipes: We don't dare do that at the code level. | 14:31 |
| maroon | leakypipes: We iterate | 14:31 |
| maroon | leakypipes: In tiny steps | 14:31 |
| leakypipes | maroon: how would we iterate in this regard? | 14:31 |
| maroon | leakypipes: we think of the simplest thing that could possibly work, implement it, see if it works | 14:32 |
| maroon | leakypipes: if not, keep trying | 14:32 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I worry that we're going to be trading one set of problems for another otherwie | 14:32 |
| maroon | otherwise | 14:33 |
| leakypipes | maroon: how would we iterate in this regard? | 14:33 |
| maroon | leakypipes: let's be clear and define the problem we are trying to solve first. | 14:33 |
| leakypipes | I think dan berrange did a pretty good job of describing the problem | 14:33 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I think the solution he proposed is altogether too convenient | 14:34 |
| maroon | leakypipes: there are costs that he conveniently ignores | 14:34 |
| maroon | leakypipes: moving _all_ plugins out of the tree will prove extremely costly, for example | 14:34 |
| leakypipes | such as? | 14:34 |
| leakypipes | in what ways? | 14:34 |
| maroon | leakypipes: you're asking me to tell you because you honestly don't know | 14:35 |
| maroon | ? | 14:35 |
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| maroon | leakypipes: what with all the tempest 2 step and api stability stuff we hae to go through... | 14:35 |
| maroon | leakypipes: requiring internal api stability as well is not free | 14:35 |
| maroon | leakypipes: which is why linux explicitly avoids doing it | 14:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove locking from network and subnet delete op https://review.openstack.org/115360 | 14:36 |
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| maroon | leakypipes: Neutron's approach is likely to continue to require an oss implementation of any api in the tree | 14:36 |
| maroon | leakypipes: so that we can evolve the internal api with full appreciation for the impact of our changes | 14:37 |
| leakypipes | maroon: I'm losing you. I don't see where Tempest comes into play with Dan's proposal. | 14:37 |
| maroon | leakypipes: the separation of code | 14:37 |
| maroon | leakypipes: It's not tempest I'm talking about, it's having to maintain stability across repos | 14:37 |
| maroon | leakypipes: in this case, the proposal to ensure stability in the plugin api | 14:38 |
| maroon | leakypipes: it's not free | 14:38 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I'm not saying it's not worth paying, but it will be costly | 14:38 |
| leakypipes | sure, it's not free. but it's worth the effort, IMO. | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Avoid testing code duplication which introduced testing bugs https://review.openstack.org/119358 | 14:38 |
| maroon | leakypipes: sure, because we've quantified it? | 14:38 |
| maroon | leakypipes: it's guesswork | 14:38 |
| leakypipes | yes, it is. | 14:38 |
| maroon | leakypipes: and the immediate pain is going to be felt far more keenly than the future pain | 14:38 |
| leakypipes | sorry, if you're looking for me to pretend it's an exact science, I'm not going to do that :) | 14:39 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I'm not saying 'don't do it' | 14:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Hareesh Puthalath proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Supply missing cisco_cfg_agent.ini file https://review.openstack.org/118252 | 14:39 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I'm saying - let's be f'ing cautious. | 14:39 |
| leakypipes | maroon: sure, that's fine. | 14:39 |
| leakypipes | maroon: no need to yell at me, though. | 14:39 |
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| maroon | leakypipes: wait, I'm yelling? :) | 14:40 |
| leakypipes | maroon: why not have Nova be the guinea pigs in this regard and see if the efforts pay off? | 14:40 |
| maroon | leakypipes: we need this more than nova. | 14:40 |
| maroon | leakypipes: so we can't wait | 14:40 |
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| leakypipes | maroon: so what are the first few iterative steps you are proposing that Neutron follow in order to reduce review burden, free up the merge queues, and make some forward progress? | 14:41 |
| maroon | leakypipes: if there was an easy answer, I'd be happy to give it to you | 14:42 |
| maroon | leakypipes: I think we're focused on partitioning the project | 14:42 |
| maroon | leakypipes: but the technical challenges to making it possible have yet to be resolved | 14:43 |
| maroon | leakypipes: The other possibility is that vendors, frustrated at how hard it is to merge stuff into neutron, take their ball and go home (e.g. distribute out of tree). | 14:44 |
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| jmlowe | Good morning, is this the right place to ask for help in determining if I have a ml2 config problem or if I've found a bug? | 14:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Cleanup and refactor methods in unit/test_security_groups_rpc https://review.openstack.org/119394 | 15:02 |
| ajo | jswiders, ^ | 15:02 |
| ajo | :) | 15:02 |
| jmlowe | I'm using a multi node setup with vxlan tunnels and my dhcp namespace can't seem to talk to my router namespace on the same network node but the router namespace seems to be plumbed correctly as it can talk to to vms across the vxlan tunnels | 15:03 |
| ajo | jswiders:: actually trying to avoid starting anything more complicated during friday afternoon ;) | 15:03 |
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| maroon | ajo: ping | 15:14 |
| ajo | maroon, pong | 15:14 |
| maroon | ajo: I want to see another fix for the bug in question | 15:14 |
| ajo | maroon, which one? | 15:14 |
| maroon | ajo: looking for link | 15:14 |
| ajo | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bug/1365829,n,z | 15:15 |
| ajo | ? | 15:15 |
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| maroon | ajo: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/unit/test_security_groups_rpc.py#L2045 | 15:15 |
| maroon | ajo: is this the module level variable that was causing problems? | 15:15 |
| ajo | maroon, not exactly, let me explain | 15:16 |
| ajo | it was involved | 15:16 |
| ajo | maroon, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119288/ | 15:16 |
| ajo | that was the module level variable which was changed during testing, and not reset to initial state | 15:16 |
| maroon | ajo: my question is - why is a test modifying a module-level variable directly? | 15:16 |
| maroon | ajo: mock.patch would seem to be desirable here | 15:17 |
| ajo | maroon, good question, ask jlibosba :) | 15:17 |
| ajo | va | 15:17 |
| ajo | maroon, just to clarify: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/unit/test_security_groups_rpc.py#L2045 is not changing the module level variable | 15:18 |
| ajo | this is just setting an object attribute | 15:18 |
| * maroon keeps approving buggy code :/ | 15:19 | |
| maroon | ajo: so it's not shared across tests? | 15:19 |
| maroon | ajo: ah, I'm remembering now... | 15:19 |
| maroon | ajo: the global used in detection | 15:19 |
| mestery | maroon: Thoughts on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119343/ It fixes a security issue ... but it's huge and has other issues at this point in the cycle. Your thoughts? | 15:19 |
| ajo | maroon, I believe the test sets a cache flag for the check | 15:19 |
| maroon | mestery: why is it necessary exactly? | 15:20 |
| maroon | mestery: we can't solve this problem without 2k lines of code? | 15:20 |
| mestery | maroon: That was my initial reaction as well :( | 15:20 |
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| mestery | maroon: Look at the bug for details of the issue it's attempting to fix. But 2k LOC ... argh. | 15:21 |
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| ajo | maroon, mestery ouch | 15:21 |
| mestery | ajo: Exactly :( | 15:21 |
| ajo | mestery, and also colides with the ipset feature ':) | 15:22 |
| mestery | ajo: Can you please add that comment and a vote in the review? | 15:22 |
| ajo | it seems like we will need to update the ipset code | 15:22 |
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| ajo | mestery, reading the bug, I'll vote asap | 15:22 |
| mestery | ajo: At this point, I'd rather focus on ipset and then refactor this for Kilo | 15:23 |
| mestery | ajo: Does that make sense? | 15:23 |
| mestery | I mean, refactor this patch to take into consideration the overlap with ipset | 15:23 |
| maroon | mestery: I'd love an excuse to -2 | 15:23 |
| mestery | maroon: Does what ajo bring up allow that? | 15:23 |
| maroon | mestery: it's going to take up pretty valuable cycles | 15:23 |
| mestery | maroon: That seems like enough of a reason to be honest | 15:23 |
| maroon | mestery: They need functional testing, too. | 15:24 |
| mestery | maroon: That seems like reason enough then, combined with the cycles, where we're at, etc. | 15:24 |
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| ajo | A good question would be: can this be done with a simpler patch for this release and then go into refactor for K? | 15:24 |
| maroon | mestery: It's pretty dangerous to mess with iptables in any way without testing. | 15:25 |
| mestery | Especially at this stage of the release | 15:25 |
| maroon | mestery: the _only_ way I'd want to see this go in this cycle is if they provided complete configurable separation between ebtables and iptables implementation | 15:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove second call to get_subnets in delete_subnet https://review.openstack.org/119399 | 15:25 |
| maroon | mestery: and extensive functional testing on the ebtables addition | 15:25 |
| mestery | maroon: That seems like a tall glass of water to fill there | 15:25 |
| ajo | As I see it, | 15:26 |
| ajo | is an in-tenant security issue | 15:26 |
| ajo | it's not cross-tenant | 15:26 |
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| maroon | mestery: the question is - who is using shared networks? | 15:26 |
| maroon | mestery: it's a security issue for a subset of users. we don't want to compromise security for everyone else in the process. | 15:26 |
| mestery | maroon: That's a question for an operator I think | 15:26 |
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| ajo | maroon, going back to the previous conversation | 15:39 |
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| ajo | the ipv6 test, wasn't changing any module level variable, initially. | 15:39 |
| ajo | That was set internally by the module after detection of "no ipv6" | 15:39 |
| ajo | and that was left as a module state for the next test that ran after | 15:39 |
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| ajo | maroon, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119288/ , so may be this, would have been better done by adding a reset() function to the module | 15:40 |
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| ajo | instead of modifying back the _IS_IPV6_ENABLED | 15:41 |
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| flashgordon | mestery: so http://jogo.github.io/gate/ | 17:01 |
| flashgordon | your unit tests are failing | 17:01 |
| flashgordon | or were failing | 17:01 |
| flashgordon | in big ways | 17:02 |
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| HenryThe8th | flashgordon: A couple of unit test bugs have been identified | 17:13 |
| pcm_ | carl_baldwin: mestery: Can you guys review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116018? Would like to get the UT coverage, the new library, and the new assert available for others. | 17:13 |
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| HenryThe8th | flashgordon: Bug 1365918 and bug 1365829 | 17:15 |
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| flashgordon | HenryThe8th: cool | 17:19 |
| flashgordon | glad your on it | 17:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | pcm_: I’ll take a look. | 17:20 |
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| flashgordon | HenryThe8th: as this is a gate bug once the fix i ready we can get it promoted | 17:20 |
| flashgordon | HenryThe8th: I'll file a e-r patch as well | 17:21 |
| pcm_ | carl_baldwin: thanks! It's all UT code (which was reviewed before, but used different library). Tests are for the most part, the same. | 17:21 |
| pcm_ | any other cores...feel free to look at it too! | 17:21 |
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| pcm_ | it brings requets-mock package into Neutron, which will be helpful for requests testing. | 17:22 |
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| flashgordon | oh kevinbenton beat me too it | 17:23 |
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| flashgordon | kevinbenton: your patch needs a revision | 17:31 |
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| carl_baldwin | pcm_: I have added my review. Thanks. | 17:34 |
| pcm_ | thank you! | 17:35 |
| pcm_ | any other cores able to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116018? | 17:36 |
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| mestery | flashgordon: Looks like the gate UT failures are in hand now, and nice casual nic BTW | 17:43 |
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| flashgordon | man_of_mystery: heh thanks | 17:47 |
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| flashgordon | man_of_mystery: whats the link to the fix again? | 17:47 |
| flashgordon | man_of_mystery: once it passes the check queue you can ask infra to promote it | 17:47 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: Got it, I'm looking now ... | 17:47 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: HenryThe8th posted these bugs for it: Bug 1365918 and bug 1365829 | 17:48 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: It must be covered under one or both of those | 17:48 |
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| flashgordon | man_of_mystery: ahh https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119358/ | 17:50 |
| flashgordon | man_of_mystery: is the fix | 17:50 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: That's it | 17:50 |
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| flashgordon | looks like it needs some reviews | 17:50 |
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| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: Ack | 17:51 |
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| rms_13 | man_of_mystery, flashgordon: I can take a first byte at it | 17:52 |
| man_of_mystery | rms_13: thanks sir, please do, I'm looking now as well | 17:52 |
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| HenryThe8th | man_of_mystery: flashgordon: I think there are two patches? | 17:54 |
| HenryThe8th | man_of_mystery: flashgordon: This one is needed --> https://review.openstack.org/119288 | 17:54 |
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| man_of_mystery | HenryThe8th flashgordon: The second one is in the queue, maybe flashgordon can move that one up to the top? | 17:55 |
| flashgordon | HenryThe8th: ohh i didn't see that one | 17:55 |
| man_of_mystery | HenryThe8th flashgordon: Actually, the second one has only 55 minutes left | 17:55 |
| flashgordon | man_of_mystery HenryThe8th: I'll go ask infra nicely | 17:55 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: danke | 17:56 |
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| rms_13 | man_of_mystery, flashgordon: looks good to me | 18:01 |
| man_of_mystery | rms_13: nice and thanks! | 18:01 |
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| man_of_mystery | carl_baldwin: Can you eyeball this gate fixing bug here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119358/ | 18:02 |
| man_of_mystery | carl_baldwin: Needs one more core +2 | 18:02 |
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| rms_13 | man_of_mystery: Its failing check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow | 18:02 |
| man_of_mystery | rms_13: I saw that ... looking. | 18:03 |
| rms_13 | Is that expected to be fixed on a recheck/reverify? | 18:03 |
| flashgordon | man_of_mystery: that is the basic process of getting gate bugs promoted | 18:03 |
| flashgordon | ask infra very nicely | 18:03 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: Dually noted sir, and thanks for the help here! | 18:03 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: This looks like a failure with the underlying VM: http://logs.openstack.org/58/119358/6/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow/c49bdaa/console.html | 18:03 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: This is for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119358/, another one of hte gate fixing bugs | 18:03 |
| rms_13 | man_of_mestery: I believe the code needs a rebase | 18:04 |
| flashgordon | man_of_mystery: it could be a network issue or something as well :) | 18:04 |
| rms_13 | but changes are self content so it should be ok on the next run | 18:05 |
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| flashgordon | a underlying network issue that is | 18:05 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: Ack on that. Another underlying neutron error perhaps :) | 18:05 |
| flashgordon | heh | 18:05 |
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| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: I'll recheck that one on something else to get it into the check queue again | 18:06 |
| flashgordon | man_of_mystery: ack | 18:06 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: I don't see any existing rechecks which match that generic signature. Would you advise filing a new bug for this one? | 18:07 |
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| flashgordon | man_of_mystery: well there is nothing on status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/ because we don't have a fingperprint for it yet | 18:08 |
| carl_baldwin | man_of_mystery: I’ll go look at it. | 18:08 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: Ack | 18:08 |
| rms_13 | man_of_mystery, emagana : Could you guys eyeball https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111180/ | 18:09 |
| flashgordon | man_of_mystery: but we should be able to get one | 18:09 |
| flashgordon | file a bug | 18:09 |
| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: Doing it now. | 18:09 |
| rms_13 | Its been hanging around for a long. low priority though | 18:09 |
| rms_13 | man_of_mystery, emagana : poor bug is screaming for two +2s :) | 18:09 |
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| emagana | rms_13: Let me take a look | 18:10 |
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| emagana | rms_13: It seems that they code did not change since I reviewed last time | 18:11 |
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| emagana | rms_13: just added a few files missing, right? | 18:12 |
| rms_13 | Yes | 18:12 |
| emagana | Approved! | 18:12 |
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| man_of_mystery | flashgordon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1366154 | 18:13 |
| rms_13 | emagana: thx. make sense | 18:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | man_of_mystery: done | 18:20 |
| man_of_mystery | carl_baldwin: thanks! | 18:20 |
| carl_baldwin | Still needs Jenkins +1. | 18:20 |
| carl_baldwin | And then +A. | 18:20 |
| carl_baldwin | man_of_mystery: I couldn’t see any reason why Jenkins wouldn’t like PS6 when it thought PS5 was good. | 18:21 |
| man_of_mystery | Same for me | 18:21 |
| ZZelle_ | emagana, carl_baldwin, if you have time, could you have a final look to https://review.openstack.org/116988 ? (simple lockmode removal) | 18:22 |
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| shivharis2 | mestery: hi | 18:26 |
| mestery | shivharis2: That was quick :) | 18:26 |
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| shivharis2 | mestery: sent you an email as a reminder | 18:27 |
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| mestery | shivharis2: Got it, waiting for a few neutron gate bugs to merge, but will have mark +A it this weekend | 18:27 |
| shivharis2 | mestery: thanks | 18:27 |
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| emagana | ZZelle_: done! | 18:29 |
| ZZelle_ | emagana, thanks :) | 18:29 |
| carl_baldwin | emagana: You’re too quick for me. | 18:30 |
| emagana | carl_baldwin: just one file change.. easy review! | 18:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | pritesh proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove the Cisco Nexus monolithic plugin https://review.openstack.org/116028 | 19:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Vivekanandan Narasimhan proposed a change to openstack/neutron: DVR to delete router namespaces for service ports https://review.openstack.org/118580 | 19:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Reset IPv6 detection flag after IPv6 tests https://review.openstack.org/119288 | 19:10 |
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| JayJ_ | My cluster has a single network node. In the case of a DR, would restoring the DB to a brand new network node suffice restoring the services? Can anyone shed some light/thoughts on the topic please? | 19:26 |
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| JayJ_ | Assume I restore DB and the configuration files. | 19:27 |
| ZZelle_ | JayJ_, no | 19:28 |
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| JayJ_ | ZZelle_: What would it take to restore the services? | 19:28 |
| ZZelle_ | JayJ_, iirc, dhcp/router will be associated in the db to the dead network node | 19:29 |
| ZZelle_ | JayJ_, so you need to disassociate them from the dead network node and restart the dhcp/l3 agents (on startup agents try to allocate to them unallocated dhcps/routers) | 19:30 |
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| JayJ_ | ZZelle_: Do you need to do that even when the IP has not changed? Then how do you do that? | 19:31 |
| JayJ_ | IP of the network node | 19:31 |
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| ZZelle_ | JayJ_, let me check | 19:33 |
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| ZZelle_ | JayJ_, yes, but it will work if dead/new server hostnames match | 19:34 |
| JayJ_ | ZZelle_: Ah! great. I'm going to test that out. Btw, it should be the case even if the network and controller are the same nodes right? | 19:35 |
| ZZelle_ | JayJ_, what do you mean by network and controller ? agents and neutron-server ? | 19:36 |
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| JayJ_ | ZZelle_: Yes, agents, neutron-server dhcp-server all in one | 19:37 |
| ZZelle_ | JayJ_, it will ... nothing is allocated to neutron-server instances | 19:38 |
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| JayJ_ | ZZelle_: Thanks! Really appreciate your time (gave me some confidence to go ahead with tests) | 19:39 |
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| ZZelle_ | JayJ_, good tests! | 19:42 |
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| kevinbenton | flashgordon: ping | 19:53 |
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| flashgordon | kevinbenton: pong | 19:54 |
| kevinbenton | flashgordon: what was the issue with my fix for the gate problem? | 19:54 |
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| flashgordon | kevinbenton: it was your e-r patch | 19:57 |
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| kevinbenton | flashgordon: oh okay. do we still want to merge that since my fix for the problem already went it? | 19:57 |
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| flashgordon | kevinbenton: yes please, since adding it in helps us keep an accurate picture at http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/data/uncategorized.html | 19:58 |
| kevinbenton | flashgordon: ok. will update then | 19:58 |
| flashgordon | kevinbenton: thanks | 19:58 |
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| kevinbenton | flashgordon: done | 20:02 |
| kevinbenton | flashgordon: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119299/ | 20:02 |
| flashgordon | kevinbenton: +Wed thanks | 20:07 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: hi. I’ve got reports the icehouse jobs for neutron are failing at 100% - can we get someone to look at those asap? | 21:18 |
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| mestery | salv-orlando: Yikes! Any ideas? Otherwise, I'll see who I can get on that. | 21:27 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: can’t look at it today and over the weekend. I’m afraid we need to find somebody else. | 21:27 |
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| mestery | salv-orlando: Thanks, I've pinged the core team for help, I'm out of pocket for a bit now but will be back later tonight local time for me. | 21:33 |
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