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| JayJ | rook: Can neutron ML2 be configured with flat netwroks? | 00:53 |
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| rkukura | JayJ: flat networks can be used as provider networks, but not as tenant networks | 01:03 |
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| JayJ | rkukura: I want to remove the L3 NAT agent as its a bottleneck in out deployment. No l3 NAT means no floating IP (I assume). We have multiple tenants. I want to configure each tenant with an flat provider network so the switching is done at physical router. | 01:06 |
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| JayJ | rkukura: What is the best way you suggest to approach this? | 01:07 |
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| JayJ | rkukura: main thing is to remove floating IP to DHCP NAT | 01:08 |
| rkukura | JayJ: You’d need to do that by creating the flat networks as admin, setting their tenant_ids. | 01:08 |
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| JayJ | rkukura: do you know of any docs? I did my share of searching but resulted nothing | 01:09 |
| rkukura | JayJ: The reason flat tenant networks aren’t supported is that it doesn’t make much sense to have a pool of them. | 01:09 |
| JayJ | rkukura: If admin creates flat network, then how does the instance talks to outside? | 01:11 |
| rkukura | JayJ: I’d think creating provider networks (i.e. passing “—provider:network_type flat”) would be covered in the docs, but I’m not sure. | 01:11 |
| rkukura | JayJ: You said you wanted to create a separate flat network for each tenant, right? And connect each to a physical router? | 01:12 |
| JayJ | rkukura: yes | 01:12 |
| JayJ | rkukura: That's correct | 01:12 |
| rkukura | You’d need to set the default gateway on the subnets to be the physical router’s gateway address. | 01:12 |
| JayJ | rkukura: So I remove l3 agent | 01:13 |
| rkukura | Right | 01:13 |
| JayJ | rkukura: You mean for the provider net, right? | 01:13 |
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| rkukura | JayJ: Right, you would not need to connect these flat provider networks to a neutron router. | 01:14 |
| JayJ | rkukura: How is DHCP IP to external IP linked in that case? | 01:15 |
| rkukura | JayJ: Do you really want to use separate flat networks for each tenant? Wouldn’t this mean your compute nodes need NICs connected to each of these? | 01:16 |
| JayJ | rkukura: I am assuming there is an DHCP ip with flat networks? | 01:16 |
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| rkukura | JayJ: I’d recommend still using neutron’s DHCP on these networks. It should hand the correct gateway IP out with the leases. | 01:16 |
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| rkukura | You might also want to consider a single shared external network (probably flat) that tenants can connect to directly. | 01:17 |
| JayJ | rkukura: then how does it work? DHCP and provider flat network are going to be completely different subnet right? | 01:17 |
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| JayJ | rkukura: With single shared network, I need to have a flaoting IP. My understandign it flaoting IP to internal DHCP NAT is done by the l3 agent, which is our bottleneck | 01:18 |
| rkukura | JayJ: The neutron DHCP server would listen on each of these flat networks. | 01:18 |
| JayJ | rkukura: Ah, then that shoudl work | 01:19 |
| rkukura | It is possible to have a shared provider network that is connected directly to a physical router, and for VMs from multiple tenants to connect to that. | 01:19 |
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| rkukura | JayJ: I’m still not clear how you’d have enough NICs on each compute node for each tenant to have its own flat network. | 01:20 |
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| rkukura | JayJ: It would be fine for a couple tenants, but wouldn’t scale. | 01:20 |
| JayJ | rkukura: So if I create a flat provider network (with gateway on the pysical router) as admin, the tenants can connect to the same flat network and the instances get an IP on the same subnet. | 01:21 |
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| rkukura | JayJ: Yes. And if that network is shared, multiple tenants can use it. | 01:21 |
| JayJ | rkukura: As far as NICs, I was thinkign to use VLANs (example: eth1.10, eth1.11 etc.) | 01:22 |
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| rkukura | If you are using VLANs on the router, you could use vlan provider (or tenant) networks. | 01:22 |
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| JayJ | rkukura: Scalling is an issue. Agreed. We will have less than a few handful of tenants. | 01:23 |
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| rkukura | JayJ: You should be able to do what you were talking about with vlan provider networks and avoid having to manually create and bridge the subinterfaces (i.e. eth1.10). | 01:25 |
| JayJ | rkukura: I'm a bit confused with ML2 plugins also. If I set type_driver to say vlan or gre, and use mechanism_driver=openvswitch, Is it true that this will alow only tenant level islolation? The external traffic still has to go through a flaoting IP | 01:25 |
| rkukura | JayJ: In ML2, the L2 configuration is pretty much orthogonal to what you do at L3. | 01:27 |
| rkukura | JayJ: It doesn’t really matter what type of L2 isolation is used - you can still connect the network to neutron routers, or configure the subnet on the network with a physical router as the gateway. Of course getting a physical router to connect to a neutron GRE or VXLAN tunnel is probably not possible, since the router wouldn’t know about neutron’s tunnel endpoint management. | 01:29 |
| JayJ | rkukura: in that case, if I setup vlan provider network with GW on the physical router, what would you suggest my type_driver and mechanism_driver be, so I can elimiate neutron L3 agent? | 01:31 |
| JayJ | rkukura: I meant L2 agent (NAT) | 01:33 |
| JayJ | rkukura: Let me ask this, I want to create a provider network and when I create an instance, I want to get an IP directly off of the provider net. How do I do that? | 01:35 |
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| ajo | amotoki, salv-orlando : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1376128 | 08:39 |
| ajo | if you can, look at this, | 08:39 |
| ajo | I'm working on it, if you can, set milestone: RC2 and raise prio | 08:39 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, ^ | 08:39 |
| ihrachyshka | yeah, that's a nasty bug. if we release Juno without it fixed we're doomed to insert dirty hacks to fallback to old values | 08:40 |
| ihrachyshka | (in downstream) | 08:40 |
| ajo | yes, or making shell scripts to translate from old pid files to new pid files, | 08:41 |
| ajo | or back on downgrades, not nice | 08:41 |
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| ajo | even in some cases, translation can't be reverted when external_process is used for more affairs. | 08:42 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: yo | 08:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: ML2: move L3 cleanup out of network transaction https://review.openstack.org/124975 | 09:08 |
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| salv-orlando | ajo: does the respawn result in loss of functionality? | 09:14 |
| salv-orlando | like metadata does not work anymore? | 09:14 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando, let me verify that, a few minutes | 09:16 |
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| ajo | I'm not sure if the new one failed to start, thus, not "bringing up" any code changes (code bug fixes, etc) | 09:17 |
| ajo | they should collide on port, at least, | 09:17 |
| ajo | but I remember they replicated... hmm, that was before PTO, ... well, checking and reporting in a minute | 09:18 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando, yes, it results in failure | 10:02 |
| ajo | checking http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/instance-id | 10:02 |
| ajo | failed 1/20: up 6.39. request failed | 10:02 |
| ajo | failed 2/20: up 9.10. request failed | 10:02 |
| ajo | failed 3/20: up 11.65. request failed | 10:02 |
| ajo | failed 4/20: up 13.85. request failed | 10:02 |
| ajo | I enabled metadata (disabled configdrive), checked out parent to change, started all neutron services, checked that it works, | 10:03 |
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| ajo | then checked out master, restarted all neutron services, stopped instance, started instance and it fails | 10:03 |
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| ajo | not sure of the exact failure mechanism, could be the unix socked disconnected from ns-metadata-proxy to neutron-metadata-server which get's restarted, thus the ns-metadata-proxy needs restart, but just guessing here | 10:04 |
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| ajo | ihrachyshka, ^ worse than it initially looked... metadata stops working until you kill all neutron-ns-metadata-proxy and restart l3-agent / dhcp-agent | 10:06 |
| jschwarz | ajo++, nice find | 10:08 |
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| ajo | I'd like to understand the exact failure mechanism | 10:12 |
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| yamahata | amotoki: ping? | 10:23 |
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| amotoki | yamahata: pong | 10:24 |
| yamahata | amotoki: does recheck-nec bug ### work? or only recheck-nec? | 10:24 |
| amotoki | yamahata: only "recheck-nec" works now. | 10:26 |
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| amotoki | yamahata: which one failed? | 10:26 |
| yamahata | amotoki: got it. thanks. | 10:26 |
| yamahata | amotoki: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124699/ seems glance-manage issue | 10:27 |
| amotoki | yamahata: I found it. | 10:27 |
| yamahata | amotoki: it seems to be fixed in jenkins. So I expect same with third party CIs | 10:28 |
| amotoki | yamahata: thanks. I just retriggered yours. | 10:28 |
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| yamahata | amotoki: thank you. | 10:28 |
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| salv-orlando | ajo: I think the root cause is simple and two proxies should not exist anyway… if you want to dig deep in understanding how it fails go ahead, but I think we can just fix this problem by restoring the same naming scheme as icehouse | 10:29 |
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| salv-orlando | otherwise we will have to stop and restart all metadata proxies upon upgrade, which will likely require some ad-hoc operation | 10:29 |
| salv-orlando | I don’t have a specific reason for using <uuid>/pid or <uuid>.pid - do you? | 10:30 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, I think it's good to keep the new naming scheme for new services | 10:30 |
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| ajo | to avoid an excesive listing in the "external" directory | 10:30 |
| amotoki | +1 from me too. (i just returned to my desk) | 10:30 |
| ajo | so pid files (per-service) keep contained inside their uuid dirs | 10:30 |
| ajo | for example | 10:30 |
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| ajo | uuid1/pid | 10:31 |
| ajo | uuid1/pid.raddvd | 10:31 |
| ajo | radvd | 10:31 |
| salv-orlando | yeah it’s cool. But it breaks the world. | 10:31 |
| salv-orlando | this makes it uncool | 10:31 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, I have a patch ready | 10:31 |
| salv-orlando | what does this patch do? | 10:31 |
| ajo | to specify an specific pid path within the external directory | 10:31 |
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| ajo | may be we can use this optional parameter with "old" services, | 10:32 |
| ajo | and keep thew new convention to others | 10:32 |
| ajo | actually, only the metadata-proxy is affected | 10:32 |
| ajo | because dhcp puts it's files in dhcp/uuid/pid | 10:32 |
| ajo | also, this patch should help in later refactor (dhcp/processmonitor) to use external_process in dhcp agent | 10:33 |
| ajo | instead of replicating | 10:33 |
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| amotoki | ajo: how about vpn-agent openswan? | 10:33 |
| ajo | hmmmmm, too, right | 10:34 |
| ajo | amotoki++ | 10:34 |
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| ajo | amotoki, salv-orlando , if you find it right, I could try to propose this mixed solution, keeping the new services in-directory, and old services with the old naming convention | 10:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexey I. Froloff proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Only raise exception if no IP wass allocated in dual-stack network https://review.openstack.org/125061 | 10:36 |
| ajo | otherwise, if the "external" directory gets too cluttered we will have performance problems due to the file system | 10:36 |
| salv-orlando | In principle I don’t like mixed stuff - but go ahead and push the code ;) | 10:37 |
| salv-orlando | I take my scotch dry - always | 10:37 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, I understand your point of view | 10:37 |
| ajo | hahaha | 10:37 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando, other option could be providing a migration tool for the pids (and future stuff) | 10:38 |
| ajo | bad part is... upgrades are easy, downgrades.... can be impossible in some situations | 10:38 |
| jschwarz | amotoki, evening :) was wondering if you could take a look at a patch I made for neutronclient - a patch you approved some time ago (92390) broke noauth support so I made a fix for that (125022) :) | 10:38 |
| amotoki | ajo: can we do that? I think we need to re-launch a process to change pid path. | 10:39 |
| amotoki | ajo: "that" == "migration tool" | 10:39 |
| ajo | amotoki, for example, before agent restart: migration_tool --upgrade | 10:39 |
| ajo | would move all $external/*.pid to $external/*/pid | 10:39 |
| ajo | well, actually just in the middle would be the best | 10:40 |
| ajo | stop / migrate-pids / start | 10:40 |
| ajo | all pid files are moved, and found by the agent at restart | 10:40 |
| salv-orlando | amotoki: relaunching will surely fix the problem, but what ajo is trying to do is to move the uuid.pid files into uuid/pid so that upon restart the l3 agent won’t think those processes are dead | 10:41 |
| ajo | amotoki, but, for example, I have a pending patch for Kilo, to refactor the dhcp agent, and plug in process monitor, that moves dnsmasq pid file from /var/neutron/dhcp/<uuid>/pid to /var/neutron/external/<uuid>/pid | 10:41 |
| salv-orlando | that’s the “ad-hoc” thing that we’d need to do to ensure things work smoothly with the new naming convention | 10:42 |
| ajo | if we migrate that^, it can't be reverted | 10:42 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, correct | 10:42 |
| salv-orlando | ajio: one bit I do not understand… you’ve been referring to an “external” directory… which directory is that? | 10:43 |
| amotoki | salv-orlando: aio: I think I understand the case. what in my mind is a case where a running process maintains its pid file. | 10:43 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, neutron/agen/linux/external_process implementation | 10:43 |
| amotoki | metadata-proxy is not a case of this. | 10:43 |
| ajo | puts all the pid files in that /var/neutron/external/<uuid>... | 10:43 |
| ajo | it's actualy $state_path + /external/ | 10:44 |
| ajo | amotoki, not metadata proxy, but neutron-ns-metadata-proxy | 10:44 |
| ajo | the one living in each namespace | 10:44 |
| salv-orlando | ajo: understood. So the metata pid will be moved again as well right? | 10:44 |
| salv-orlando | I meant the proxy pid | 10:45 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, not sure I understood your question | 10:45 |
| amotoki | ajo: it seems my typo... ns-metadata-proxy. right. | 10:45 |
| ajo | moved by a "migration tool" you mean? | 10:45 |
| salv-orlando | the ns-metadata-proxy process is a child process which will be managed by the child process monitor. Is that correct? | 10:45 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, for K, yes | 10:46 |
| ajo | not monitored for J yet :) | 10:46 |
| salv-orlando | so it’s pid file will be moved into /var/neutron/external/<uuid> which is yet a different position compared to where we’re putting it in Juno | 10:46 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, correct, on current master | 10:46 |
| ajo | it moves from $external/<uuid>.pid to $external/<uuid>/pid | 10:47 |
| salv-orlando | but we want to do <uuid>/pid in juno because it’s consistent with other stuff? | 10:47 |
| salv-orlando | like radvdv | 10:47 |
| salv-orlando | meh radvd | 10:47 |
| ajo | :) | 10:47 |
| ajo | I think radvdv does <uuid>/pid.radvd | 10:47 |
| ajo | using the new convention | 10:48 |
| ajo | but | 10:48 |
| ajo | the question would be | 10:48 |
| ajo | a simple patch like | 10:48 |
| ajo | <uiid>.pid.radvd | 10:48 |
| ajo | and keeping all in a dir, | 10:48 |
| ajo | would be ok? | 10:48 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, amotoki let me check something, | 10:48 |
| salv-orlando | ajo: ok - I’m just slightly confused… do your checks. But I reckon we’re probably making this problem more complex than what it has to be | 10:49 |
| ajo | how good/bad does FS scale for a 10k*2 file listing... that'd be ok for <10k nets | 10:49 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, I'm trying to go with your simpler suggestion (keeping the old convention) | 10:49 |
| ajo | may be there's no actual scaling problem | 10:50 |
| salv-orlando | ajo: but maybe we can also use the new convention… can’t we just assume in the code that the pidfiel can be available either in the new or old position | 10:50 |
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| ajo | I prefer not keeping two conventions too | 10:50 |
| salv-orlando | ok | 10:50 |
| ajo | hmmm | 10:51 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, that sounds good too | 10:51 |
| ajo | so we look for the new, if not existing, check for the old... otherwise we create on the new | 10:51 |
| salv-orlando | my point re your blueprint was anyway that if you’re going to move this stuff again for K - let’s keep the pidfiles where are now | 10:51 |
| salv-orlando | and then let’s face the problem in kilo | 10:51 |
| ajo | salv-orlando++ | 10:51 |
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| salv-orlando | ajo: there is one more clarification i need | 10:52 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, sure | 10:52 |
| ajo | ask | 10:52 |
| salv-orlando | the metadata pid file is now in $state_path/<uuid>/pid | 10:52 |
| salv-orlando | where the uuid is usually a router id but in some cases could be a subnet id | 10:52 |
| salv-orlando | correct? | 10:52 |
| ajo | correct, after the radvd change | 10:52 |
| salv-orlando | whereas the radvd pidfile is called radvd.pid | 10:53 |
| salv-orlando | and is in the same dir | 10:53 |
| ajo | yes, it could be other resource id, not sure how lbaas / vpnaas use it | 10:53 |
| salv-orlando | don’t you see an inconsistency as well? like the metadata proxy pid file should be called ns-meta-proxy.pid? | 10:53 |
| ajo | yes | 10:53 |
| ajo | using a new convention | 10:53 |
| ajo | I would put all services under a named pi | 10:54 |
| ajo | pid | 10:54 |
| salv-orlando | otherwise the vpn will start openswan call the pidfile “pid” too and overwrite the one for the meta proxy | 10:54 |
| ajo | hmm, that's a deeper problem, let's check for the vpnaas / lbaas implementation | 10:55 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, may be you found an extra bug | 10:55 |
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| ajo | pff | 10:57 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, ha-proxy implementation, again, duplicates parts of external_process | 10:57 |
| ajo | and moves files to $state_path/lbaas | 10:57 |
| ajo | that's why it's not happening there | 10:57 |
| ajo | (collision I mean) | 10:57 |
| ajo | or moved pid | 10:58 |
| ajo | ugly | 10:58 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando, for openswan/ipsec it seems to be $state_path/ipsec/<uuid>/var/run/pluto | 11:03 |
| ajo | ouch | 11:03 |
| ajo | also, it's own implementation | 11:03 |
| ajo | we reinvent wheel everywhere | 11:03 |
| * ajo is sad ;] | 11:04 | |
| jschwarz | ajo, I remember looking at the haproxy process flow a while back and figuring out what was the reason they didn't use ProcessMonitor | 11:04 |
| jschwarz | ajo, I forgot it now though... :< sec | 11:04 |
| ajo | jschwarz, external_process, Process monitor is new, yet not used by any | 11:05 |
| ajo | jschwarz, it could be external_process wasn't available at that time? | 11:05 |
| jschwarz | ajo, might as it was written a year ago | 11:05 |
| jschwarz | ajo, but I remember finding a reason it couldn't be easily ported | 11:05 |
| ajo | it happened with dhcp, and I got it refactored to work with external_process | 11:05 |
| jschwarz | ajo, ah yes | 11:07 |
| jschwarz | ajo, haproxy receives '-p' arguments and it writes the PID of its own child processes to the pid | 11:07 |
| jschwarz | ajo, then there's a kill_all function which knows to kill every pid in that file | 11:07 |
| jschwarz | ajo, which is unlike the logic in external_process iirc? | 11:08 |
| ajo | jschwarz, correct, but external_process could be extended to handle specific kills methods/callbacks | 11:09 |
| ajo | no reason to reinvent wheels for that :) | 11:09 |
| jschwarz | ajo, agreed - but I said "couldn't be easily ported" | 11:09 |
| ajo | jschwarz, :) | 11:10 |
| jschwarz | ajo, extending external_process != easy ;-) | 11:10 |
| ajo | nahh | 11:10 |
| jschwarz | ajo, there's also no way to execute processes in daemon mode | 11:10 |
| ajo | maintaining replicated code != easy :D | 11:10 |
| jschwarz | ajo, need to write that now for the integration code | 11:10 |
| jschwarz | integration testing code* | 11:10 |
| ajo | jschwarz, what do you mean by "in daemon mode" ? | 11:11 |
| ajo | daemon mode generally drops pid, and detaches | 11:11 |
| jschwarz | ajo, aye. there's a Daemon class thrown around somewhere in the agent/linux dir, but any agent/proxy process who wants to use it need to inherit from it, making a mess | 11:12 |
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| jschwarz | ajo, I intend to extend it a bit | 11:12 |
| jschwarz | ajo, also reminds me I wanted to talk to you about extending ProcessMonitor a bit ;-D | 11:12 |
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| ajo | jschwarz, sure | 11:12 |
| ajo | anytime you can :) | 11:13 |
| jschwarz | ajo, will ping you later today I think. will let you finish up with salv first | 11:13 |
| ajo | amotoki, salv-orlando : | 11:15 |
| ajo | with 40k files: | 11:15 |
| ajo | [majopela@f20-devstack test]$ time ls *10000* | 11:15 |
| ajo | test10000 | 11:15 |
| ajo | real0m0.040s | 11:15 |
| ajo | user0m0.023s | 11:15 |
| ajo | sys0m0.016s | 11:15 |
| ajo | with 1 file: | 11:15 |
| ajo | [majopela@f20-devstack t]$ time ls *10000* | 11:15 |
| ajo | test10000 | 11:15 |
| ajo | real0m0.001s | 11:15 |
| ajo | user0m0.001s | 11:15 |
| ajo | sys0m0.001s | 11:15 |
| ajo | but let me try with 10000 files, because, that'd be more realistic (splitting pid files inside the <uuuid> dir, which also needs seek in the "external" dir) | 11:16 |
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| salv-orlando | ajo: it’s trivial to understand that a single pid file would be a whole lot faster… but what I do not understand is whether you’re talking about something you want to do now for juno or later for kilo | 11:20 |
| salv-orlando | ajo: btw, you’d then have to add the time to search for a specifiic pid within the file, I guess - that might add some time | 11:20 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: hey. there is also probably a regression introduced by switching to oslo.db: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/1376211 though oslo.db is not strictly a part of integrated release, I guess we need to track it somehow | 11:20 |
| ajo | no salv-orlando | 11:21 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo: does that 0.04s really influence anything?.. | 11:21 |
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| ajo | I'm trying to compare the FS overhead of <uuuid>/x.pid scheme | 11:21 |
| ajo | vs <uuid>.x.pid scheme | 11:21 |
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| ajo | [.$x].pìd would be more accurate | 11:22 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, probably not | 11:22 |
| ajo | I believe it's quite negligible | 11:22 |
| ajo | and we could put them all together to keep the old convention for now | 11:22 |
| ajo | and avoid having two | 11:22 |
| ajo | well | 11:22 |
| ajo | if we had to look for those 4*10k files | 11:23 |
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| ajo | that'd become: | 11:23 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo: yes, that patch for two schemes in parallel sucks in that it's not clear why we even need both | 11:23 |
| ihrachyshka | if it's possible to stick to one scheme, that would be great | 11:23 |
| ajo | 640seconds | 11:23 |
| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: we might constraint nuetron to use at least an oslo.db version where this bug is fixed, but then this means that we will make neutron RC-1 depend on a oslo.db release | 11:23 |
| ajo | if only counting the sys part | 11:23 |
| salv-orlando | perhaps something like that might be handled with release notes, considering is a bit of a corner case. | 11:23 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: I guess we should push oslo.db team somehow to fix that before Juno :) | 11:24 |
| ajo | anyway | 11:24 |
| ihrachyshka | and then bump | 11:24 |
| ajo | looking at those numbers, <uuid>/[x].pid doesn't solve that performance issue either | 11:24 |
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| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: not really a corner case. each reboot ends up with neutron and other services dead | 11:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Functional test IPAM DB operation https://review.openstack.org/124136 | 11:25 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: at least in RH world, we don't depend on mysql start before invoking neutron | 11:25 |
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| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: this is partly because we don't know which db is to use | 11:25 |
| ajo | so salv-orlando / ihrachyshka I would just stay with the old convention, and think about performance with something definitive, not an intermediate change (I'm considering the current <uuid>/pid intermediate and not definite when looking at performance) | 11:25 |
| salv-orlando | ajo: I don’t want to sound like a nagger, but at this stage I would worry more about ensuring metadata works correctly after an upgrade, and leave the scalability enhancement for a later patch. Unless you’ve found out that scalability now is terrible. | 11:25 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, I totally agree with you | 11:26 |
| ajo | after my experiments | 11:26 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando++ | 11:26 |
| ihrachyshka | no need for premature optimization | 11:26 |
| ajo | the new naming scheme from radvd patch it's not actually optimizing | 11:26 |
| ajo | so let's drop it | 11:26 |
| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka, ajo: I’d love to optimize, but we’re also pushing to get a RC-1 out of the door. | 11:26 |
| ajo | sure | 11:26 |
| ajo | I agree, not the moment for that | 11:27 |
| ajo | and probably there's not easy solution | 11:27 |
| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: do you think it’s reasonable to expect a oslo.db fix and new release in 24 hours? | 11:27 |
| ajo | probably splitting uuid in subfolders, but let's think about that for K/H | 11:27 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: no way! | 11:27 |
| ihrachyshka | :) | 11:27 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: why 24h? | 11:27 |
| salv-orlando | because mestery said he would like to do a RC-1 by tomorrow ;) | 11:28 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: ah, RC-1 is fine to be broken ;) | 11:28 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: let's target final release though! | 11:28 |
| * jschwarz lols | 11:28 | |
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| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: cool. I’ll bring that up with mestery and markmcclain when they’re up. | 11:28 |
| salv-orlando | Do you have already alerted rpodoliaka? | 11:29 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: can we add neutron to the bug and set a milestone for that? or is it overkill? | 11:29 |
| ihrachyshka | not yet, I'll do it now | 11:29 |
| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: we can add neutron, sure. For the milestone... | 11:29 |
| salv-orlando | we don’t have yet either a final juno or RC-2 label I’m afraid | 11:30 |
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| pcm_ | carol-b: Here is where you can post questions about the bug you are trying to fix... | 12:51 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando, ihrachyshka , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125349/ tell me how does it look, checking for unit testing changes (or extension) atm. | 13:23 |
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| ajo | jschwarz, ihrachyshka , salv-orlando , ^ | 13:45 |
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| jschwarz | ajo, iglob? :P | 13:45 |
| ajo | jschwarz, iglob? | 13:46 |
| jschwarz | ajo, ihar made a comment someplace about maybe using glob.iglob | 13:46 |
| jschwarz | instead of glob.glob | 13:46 |
| ajo | hmm let me check | 13:46 |
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| jschwarz | ajo++ | 13:54 |
| ajo | :D I had missed ihrachyshka comment | 13:55 |
| ajo | ok, it looks like ready now | 13:56 |
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| jschwarz | ajo++ | 14:07 |
| jschwarz | will look at the code when I finish my current task | 14:07 |
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| amuller | ajo: I predict a few functional tests will fail on that patch | 14:18 |
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| ajo | amuller, I checked those :) | 14:19 |
| ajo | amuller, which ones? | 14:19 |
| ajo | for the firts patchset it happened, because there was an actual error on the code | 14:19 |
| ajo | but fixed on ps2/3 | 14:19 |
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| amuller | ajo: did you run all the functional tests with your patch? | 14:27 |
| amuller | jschwarz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124136/6/neutron/tests/functional/db/test_ipam.py | 14:29 |
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| ajo | amuller, yes | 14:30 |
| amuller | ajo: Okie | 14:30 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, ping | 14:32 |
| rossella_s | jschwarz: pong | 14:33 |
| jschwarz | rossella_s, I'm looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124136/6 and have a few questions :) | 14:34 |
| rossella_s | jschwarz: shoot :) | 14:34 |
| jschwarz | rossella_s, I understand you're writing functional tests which use a DB and that you clean the DB before each test | 14:35 |
| jschwarz | did you consider using SqlTestCase (in neutron/tests/unit/testlib_api.py?) | 14:35 |
| amuller | ajo: I'm really surprised that everything passes, I'd expect unit tests that assert strings like some/path/pid | 14:36 |
| amuller | ajo: for keepalived | 14:37 |
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| amuller | ajo: If you give Jenkins enough time we'll know where the failures are =D | 14:37 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: yes...the problem was that I don't want to use sqlite but to test using mysql or postgres | 14:38 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, why? | 14:38 |
| rossella_s | jschwarz: why I don't want to use sqlite? | 14:38 |
| jschwarz | rossella_s, yeah, but it was a silly question | 14:39 |
| rossella_s | jschwarz: no question is silly :) Unit tests already use sqlite...I wanted to go a step further | 14:39 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, so why can't you use SqlTestCase with mysql or postgres? | 14:40 |
| jschwarz | rossella_s, I'd expect the functions there to work for all of those DB types | 14:41 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, I'm asking because I'm starting to write something similar to what you're doing here for integration tests, so I'm curious about the process you went through the code writing | 14:42 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller: ain't no body got time for that | 14:42 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: integration tests? interesting :) ...so let me explain better because I fear I was a bit misleading. So I could use SqlTestCase but that wouldn't spare much code. If you see in my functional tests in the setup I do the following things 1) override the database connection string 2) create the test DB and add clean up 3) create the models | 14:44 |
| rossella_s | so if I use SqlTestCase I have to do 1) and 2) anyway and before calling SqlTestCase.setup because otherwise it won't use the database connection that I want to use | 14:46 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, I see. We plan to wipe the DB clean between each test so they will have minimum interaction between them | 14:46 |
| jschwarz | rossella_s, you mean because of that 'db_api.get_engine()' part? why won't it use the DB connection you want? | 14:46 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: yes exactly. I mean you have to call that line after having override the config db connection string | 14:47 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: it's possible to use SqlTestCase ...my thought was just to try to keep things simple. So I didn't want to have SqlTestCase as super class just to spare one line :) | 14:48 |
| jschwarz | rossella_s, so you can override the config db connection string in the __init__ and then use SqlTestCase's as is (with the added(?) bonus of wiping DB between each test) | 14:48 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, the dsvm-functional test suite runs ./stack.sh which creates a mysql DB and initializes it, right? | 14:49 |
| jschwarz | rossella_s, so I think you can skip 2) since the DB scheme already exists | 14:50 |
| rossella_s | jschwarz: if my test inherits from SqlTestCase, I could simply override the connection string and then call super.setUp...it should work | 14:50 |
| jschwarz | rossella_s, :) | 14:50 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: the point is that I am using a test DB that it's created in the test. That's why I don't need the clean up of SqlTestCase | 14:50 |
| rossella_s | and that's why I need 2) | 14:51 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: I prefer using a test db so that the test is isolated | 14:51 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, ack | 14:52 |
| rossella_s | jschwarz: :) ...does it make sense? | 14:52 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, yes, now I see that | 14:52 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: thanks for your reviews btw...good luck with the integration test! | 14:53 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, thanks | 14:54 |
| jschwarz | rossella_s, I think you can make the code a lot simpler btw | 14:56 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, you can move all the stuff that involves the config overriding to DBTestFramework.__init__, and then use a similar structure to what salv used for SqlTestCase for the DB creation and drop | 14:56 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: I am sure the code can be simplified...anyway I don't really see your point. The config overriding and db creation is in the setup method...why move it to init? Also not sure what structure you are referring to...in SqlTestCase there's no DB creation | 14:59 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: anyway please feel free to comment directly on the review, I think it's easier because you can point directly at the code | 15:00 |
| jschwarz | rossella_s, in the future, integration tests will probably want to do exactly what you're doing, so writing the code as generic as possible now will help save patchsets later :> | 15:00 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, I'll write my thoughts inline then. | 15:01 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: agreed, I like generic code. I will read your comments later then ;) | 15:01 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, thank you very much for your time :) | 15:02 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: actually thank you :) let's try to collaborate to make the code as re-usable as possible. I don't know much about the integration tests, anyway it looks interesting | 15:03 |
| jschwarz | rossella_s, the writing is ongoing (early stages of framework writing) so any thoughts will be helpful | 15:03 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: is there some link, review that I can look at? | 15:04 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, it is as early as I started writing it today ;-) | 15:05 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, when i have something up i'll try to remember adding you as a reviewr | 15:05 |
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| rkukura | rook: :) | 15:06 |
| rossella_s | jschwarz: great, thanks! | 15:06 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, done :) | 15:18 |
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| rossella_s | jschwarz: :) | 15:22 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, messed around with the code I pastebin'd for you on your patch - the __init__ part is no good because config_parse should be called before the db connection overriding part. Calling self.parse_config() manually beforehand fixes it | 15:49 |
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| jschwarz | amotoki, ping | 16:09 |
| amotoki | jschwarz: hi | 16:09 |
| jschwarz | amotoki, morning for you, is it? :) | 16:09 |
| amotoki | jschwarz: late night in my side. | 16:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Add dynamic routing spec https://review.openstack.org/125401 | 16:10 |
| jschwarz | amotoki, sounds like fun. can't sleep? | 16:10 |
| amotoki | jschwarz: no, i am in ML2 meeting and then go to bed :) | 16:11 |
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| jschwarz | amotoki, dedication ftw :) | 16:11 |
| jschwarz | amotoki, I replied on the inline question you asked regarding the noauth patch | 16:11 |
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| jschwarz | amotoki, mainly wanted to see if you have any ideas about checking the noauth's coverage.. I looked around that code and it seems like there are quite a few places where neutronclient tries to contact keystone | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jaume Devesa proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: BGP dynamic routing https://review.openstack.org/125401 | 16:13 |
| jschwarz | amotoki, also I don't think it's possible to check if neutronclient doesn't talk to keystone in the elimination process since there could always be another place where keystone is contacted and we missed it | 16:13 |
| amotoki | jschwarz: honestly i don't have good idea now. How did you notice that noauth does not work? | 16:13 |
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| jschwarz | amotoki, we're writing the framework for integration tests so we tried to make neutronclient work with keystone off :) | 16:15 |
| amotoki | jschwarz: My quesiton in your review is just a question and it is not a blocker completely. | 16:15 |
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| jschwarz | amotoki, ack | 16:15 |
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| jschwarz | amotoki, sounds like there isn't an easy way to do this right now | 16:18 |
| amotoki | jschwarz: agree | 16:19 |
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| jschwarz | amotoki, but probably once the integration tests are merged for K this will be checked (since if it doesn't work all the integration tests will fail) | 16:19 |
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| jschwarz | amotoki, a loopy way but a way indeed ;-> | 16:19 |
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| jschwarz | amotoki, I'm off to home so I wrote my thoughts on the patch. let me know if you come up with any ideas about this :) | 16:23 |
| jschwarz | good night all | 16:23 |
| amotoki | jschwarz: good night | 16:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix pid file location to avoid I->J changes that break metadata. https://review.openstack.org/125349 | 16:36 |
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| armax | ajo: ping | 17:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | mark mcclain proposed a change to openstack/neutron: remove linuxbridge plugin https://review.openstack.org/123624 | 18:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix pid file location to avoid I->J changes that break metadata https://review.openstack.org/125349 | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | mark mcclain proposed a change to openstack/neutron: remove linuxbridge plugin https://review.openstack.org/123624 | 18:08 |
| armax | ajo: your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125349 breaks on pep8 validation but it was trivial enough and I took care of it | 18:08 |
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| JayJ_ | Guys I'm looking gor a guide to setup neutron flat network. Anyone have a good link? I want flat nework so I I eliminate NAT (l2 agent) for performance reasons. | 18:22 |
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| JayJ_ | Gusy and Gals, I mean :) | 18:22 |
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| JayJ_ | Guys and Gals :) Third time is charm | 18:23 |
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| anteaya | JayJ_: thanks for being inclusive, I'd help you if I knew the answer | 18:25 |
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| JayJ_ | anteaya: Thanks... | 18:25 |
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| anteaya | kevinbenton: I do believe that the last round of vArmour CI falling over came across your radar, any objection from you for fulfilling garyduan's request? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/third-party-announce/2014-October/000054.html | 18:26 |
| anteaya | JayJ_: :D | 18:26 |
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| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: one more followup on that question | 19:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: sure | 19:21 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: the reason I noticed an issue with where I do this is because it caused a unit test to fail that I think you added recently | 19:21 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: Which one? | 19:21 |
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| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: test_update_port_rpc_outside_transaction | 19:22 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: it barfs on looking up the l3plugin | 19:22 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: Yes, let me look to refresh. | 19:22 |
| carl_baldwin | Could you put the trace in pastebin or something? | 19:23 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: give me a minute to repro | 19:24 |
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| carl_baldwin | np | 19:24 |
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| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: http://paste.openstack.org/show/117561/ | 19:26 |
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| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: looks like the test is just not set up to handle service plugins | 19:29 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: I was just able to reproduce the failure with your code. Now I can look in to it a bit. | 19:31 |
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| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: Yes, the unit test is not expecting the use of manager here. It would need to be mocked out. | 19:34 |
| ChuckC | mock out a few things, I guess. OK, let me spend some time on that. | 19:36 |
| carl_baldwin | Besides that, I think dvr_vmarp_table_update should be done outside of the context of the transaction. In fact, I have a placeholder patch to move the other call to this method outside. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122880 | 19:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | I keep meaning to get back to that. | 19:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: WIP Try to remove RPC notification for DVR from delete_port https://review.openstack.org/122880 | 19:38 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: if you move it out of the transaction for delete, won't the vmarp update fail to get the port data from the plugin? | 19:38 |
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| carl_baldwin | There are many loose ends in that patch. It is just a place-holder to show what I mean to accomplish. | 19:39 |
| ChuckC | l3_dvr_db.py:571 | 19:39 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: ok | 19:39 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: The point is that the notification should not be sent while inside the transaction. | 19:40 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: agree | 19:40 |
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| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: will do the same in my change | 19:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: I might be able to clean that change up tomorrow and address these questions unless you would like to work on it. | 19:42 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: were you thinking of passing a port dict to dvr_vmarp_table_update? | 19:42 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: sure, I'll be working in similar code anyway | 19:42 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: Feel free to take over that patch then. Passing a port dict is something I have considered. Obviously, I never came to a conclusion. | 19:43 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: ok, will do | 19:44 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: I’ll change my -2 to a WIP tag so that progress can be made. | 19:44 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: that change has a dependency | 19:44 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: thanks | 19:45 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: I thought I just rebased the dependency away. Did you reload? | 19:45 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: no, the dependency is gone now! | 19:45 |
| carl_baldwin | The dependency had already merged I thought. | 19:45 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: ok | 19:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Bak proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Don't fail when trying to unbind a router https://review.openstack.org/124865 | 19:47 |
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| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: as for taking over the patch, do I just git review -d and then submit some code change? | 19:48 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: Yes. | 19:48 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: many thanks | 19:49 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: You can also reset the author to you and leave me as a co-author if you want. | 19:49 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: ok | 19:49 |
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| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: was a bug ever submitted for that change? | 19:52 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: Probably not. | 19:52 |
| carl_baldwin | It was a hasty post while I was in the middle of a bunch of other stuff. | 19:52 |
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| ChuckC | ack | 19:53 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: In fact, I completely forgot about it until now. :) | 19:53 |
| ChuckC | :) | 19:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Change L2 OVS DVR Agent to handle initial DVR RPC failure https://review.openstack.org/123911 | 20:47 |
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| kevinbenton | anteaya: i’m fine with vArmour being re-enabled | 20:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Change L2 OVS DVR Agent to handle initial DVR RPC failure https://review.openstack.org/123911 | 21:30 |
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| JayJ_ | Any idea why ovs-vsctl del-br brex command might hang? | 22:41 |
| JayJ_ | I am trying to delete it in the hopes of recreating | 22:41 |
| anteaya | kevinbenton: thank you | 22:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix pid file location to avoid I->J changes that break metadata https://review.openstack.org/125349 | 23:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: fix dvr snat bindings for external-gw-clear https://review.openstack.org/123795 | 23:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Batch ports from security groups RPC handler https://review.openstack.org/124478 | 23:46 |
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| kevinbenton | arosen: ping | 23:49 |
| arosen | png | 23:49 |
| arosen | pong* | 23:49 |
| kevinbenton | are you concerned something will modify the default in this? | 23:50 |
| kevinbenton | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123483/2/neutron/extensions/l3.py | 23:50 |
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| kevinbenton | arosen: ^^ | 23:51 |
| arosen | kevinbenton: repliexd | 23:53 |
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| kevinbenton | arosen: right. just wanted to make sure that’s what you were worried about. I will update the patch | 23:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Allow reading a tenant router's external IP https://review.openstack.org/123483 | 23:59 |
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