Thursday, 2014-10-23

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armaxkevinbenton: pong00:01
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kevinbentonarmax: i was just going to complain in your general direction00:09
armaxkevinbenton: which direction?00:09
kevinbentonarmax: but your delayed response has given me time to preemptively put my foot in my mouth :)00:09
armaxkevinbenton: my apologies if I am slow00:09
armaxkevinbenton: I’d invite you to look at my inbox :)00:10
armaxkevinbenton: what can I do for you?00:10
kevinbentonarmax: no prob. nothing you need to do for me now00:11
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armaxkevinbenton: btw I replied here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130205/ if it’s any help00:14
kevinbentonarmax: oh, no, it was about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129253/3/neutron/tests/unit/test_security_groups_rpc.py00:14
kevinbentonarmax: although now that you point out that patch...00:15
kevinbentonarmax: no, RETRIES is still just as bad00:15
kevinbentonarmax: it should be called ATTEMPTS00:15
armaxkevinbenton: w/e00:15
armaxkevinbenton: :)00:15
armaxkevinbenton: how many misnomers do we have in Neutron?00:15
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armaxkevinbenton: care to venture a guess?00:15
kevinbentonarmax: only 1 now00:16
kevinbenton:-)00:16
armax:)00:16
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armaxactually I think that DB_MAX_TRIES is pretty apt00:18
kevinbentonarmax: yes00:18
kevinbentonarmax: with a comment next to it explaining that we aren’t referring to these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trie00:18
armaxkevinbenton: doh!00:19
armaxkevinbenton: good point!00:19
* armax thinks kevinbenton is pulling his leg00:19
kevinbentonarmax: i do like DB_MAX_TRIES though00:19
kevinbentonarmax: that is a happy compromise00:19
armaxk00:20
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openstackgerritChuck Carlino proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Allow updating VM port's mac_address  https://review.openstack.org/12908500:26
kevinbentonarmax: how much longer are you hanging around?00:32
armaxkevinbenton: it depends00:32
armaxkevinbenton: I’ll be online00:32
kevinbentonarmax: ok. will have a new version of that other patch shortly00:33
kevinbentonthe IPNetwork fix00:33
kevinbentonthat one is a real issue00:33
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kevinbentonarmax: and you probably won’t like my unit test again00:34
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armaxkevinbenton: I am sure it’ll be fine00:35
armaxkevinbenton: I don’t intend to piss you off btw00:36
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kevinbentonarmax: you didn’t. what you said made sense. I don’t know why I almost completely duplicated the other test00:36
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kevinbentonarmax: however, i didn’t test as locally as you might have preferred00:38
armaxkevinbenton: ok, I’ll have a look00:38
kevinbentonarmax: ^^00:39
openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix handling of CIDR in allowed address pairs  https://review.openstack.org/12925300:40
kevinbentonarmax: whoops ^^00:40
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Rename constant to a more appropriate name  https://review.openstack.org/13020500:47
openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add a custom pylint check for misused context managers  https://review.openstack.org/12032000:47
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Big Switch: Switch to TLSv1 in server manager  https://review.openstack.org/13039500:50
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: OFAgent: Factor out switch implementation dependent code to sub-drivers  https://review.openstack.org/13013601:23
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Rename constant to a more appropriate name  https://review.openstack.org/13020501:28
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kevinbentonarmax: still around02:02
kevinbenton?02:02
armaxnot for long02:02
armaxI was about to step away02:02
openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: _update_router_db: don't hold open transactions  https://review.openstack.org/12885502:03
kevinbentonarmax: ^^ the new VPN failures on that were legitimate02:03
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kevinbentonarmax: was deleting the port from the DB before the VPN check02:03
armaxkevinbenton: I imagined, but I didn’t get a chance to drill down into those02:03
armaxkevinbenton:  the patch passed at one point02:04
kevinbentonarmax: now that it happens outside of a transaction, raising an exception after checking wasn’t rolled back02:04
armaxkevinbenton: I mean the tests02:04
kevinbentonarmax: right, the VPN tests only merged like a day ago02:04
armaxkevinbenton: gotcha02:04
kevinbentonarmax: or two02:04
armaxkevinbenton: makes sense02:04
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kevinbentonarmax: it would also work if i just indented so it was inside of that ‘with’ statement02:05
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix gate failure while checking FIP status transition  https://review.openstack.org/13041402:05
kevinbentonarmax: any preference?02:05
armaxkevinbenton: not sure I am able to visualize02:06
kevinbentonarmax: instead of me moving the check above the delete transaction02:06
kevinbentonarmax: i can just indent it so it’s inside of the transaction02:06
armaxI can see02:06
kevinbentonarmax: that way if it fails, it will be rolled back right there02:06
armaxkevinbenton: that should be okay then02:07
kevinbentonarmax: which one? :)02:07
armaxindending in02:07
armaxbut I’d need to look at it more closely, you’re putting me on the spot02:07
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kevinbentonarmax: i’ll indent in and re-upload. review at your own leisure :-)02:08
armaxkevinbenton: thank you sir, I’ll try to be as fast as I can02:08
openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: _update_router_db: don't hold open transactions  https://review.openstack.org/12885502:08
kevinbentonarmax: ok. have a good evening!02:08
armaxkevinbenton: I’ll be back02:08
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: _update_router_db: don't hold open transactions  https://review.openstack.org/12885502:10
kevinbentonarmax: sounds good02:10
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make L2 DVR Agent start successfully without an active neutron server  https://review.openstack.org/12391103:00
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openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add a custom pylint check for misused context managers  https://review.openstack.org/12032004:15
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed a change to openstack/neutron: NEC plugin: Allow to apply Packet filter on OFC router interface  https://review.openstack.org/13042704:32
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openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Add a custom pylint check for misused context managers  https://review.openstack.org/12032004:34
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix gate failure while checking FIP status transition  https://review.openstack.org/13041405:26
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openstackgerritChuck Carlino proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Manage arp entries for LBaas VIP and DHCP ports  https://review.openstack.org/12813406:05
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ChuckCirenab: hi06:07
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irenabChuckC: Hi06:15
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ChuckCirenab: I was wondering if you would be interested in reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129085/06:15
irenabChuck: it is on my list :-)06:15
irenabChuckC: will try to provide feedback by  the end of the week06:15
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ChuckCirenab: it's a spec for the mac address update code you've reviewed06:15
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ChuckCirenab: many thanks!06:15
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irenabChuckC: yes, plan to review it a.s.a.p06:24
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openstackgerritElena Ezhova proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Updated policy module from oslo-incubator  https://review.openstack.org/12367306:26
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openstackgerritIsaku Yamahata proposed a change to openstack/neutron: l3_db.py: factor out port creation/deleteion/update logic for router vm  https://review.openstack.org/12469906:41
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed a change to openstack/neutron: fix event_send for re-assign floating ip  https://review.openstack.org/12982606:44
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obondarevblogan: ping06:44
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed a change to openstack/neutron: fix event_send for re-assign floating ip  https://review.openstack.org/12982606:45
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openstackgerritZongKai LI proposed a change to openstack/neutron: fix event_send for re-assign floating ip  https://review.openstack.org/12982606:52
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eglynn-officemestery: just checking the status of summit proposals that ended up on the backlog pads linked from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-neutron-summit-topics-distilled14:25
eglynn-officemestery: are these straight rejections, or a punt to the contributor meetup on the Friday?14:25
eglynn-office... or a bit of both?14:25
mesteryeglynn-office: Punt to contributor meetup on friday, and also we14:26
mesterywe're doing lighting talks as well14:26
mesteryEmail coming soon14:26
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eglynn-officemestery: cool14:26
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HenryGmestery: Hi, any news on the cross-project slots on Tuesday involving Neutron?14:29
mesteryHenryG: Those will be finalized next Tuesday, hopefully we get a few!14:29
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Fix gate failure while checking FIP status transition  https://review.openstack.org/13041414:32
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HenryGmestery: I thought I had seen somewhere that the Nova-Neutron interactions (API calls and notifications) was due for an overhaul? I don't see a BP or spec, though, I might not be searching correctly.14:35
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HenryGmestery: It is mentioned here  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-os-integration14:37
mesteryHenryG: No spec yet, but it's on the radar for sure.14:37
HenryGmestery: OK, thanks. Then that item definitely needs a slot IMO :)14:38
mesteryHenryG: Ack, but we need nova folks there as well, thus cross-project ;)14:38
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raornguys, who's familar with "slaac" subnets? need to understand default behavior...14:41
mesteryraorn: You want to talk to sc68cal.14:42
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HenryGraorn: I could perhaps help while waiting for sc68cal, depends on the question14:45
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raornHenryG: it's about fixed_ip allocation for a port, when user does not request any fixed_ips14:47
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raornHenryG: fixed ips will be selected for: one for each ipv6 subnet with slaac mode, one ipv6 address from any ipv6 subnet not in slaac mode and one ipv4 address from any ipv4 subnet14:48
raornis this correct?14:48
raornaccording to _allocate_fixed_ips() method...14:49
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openstackgerritBrian Haley proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Make L2 DVR Agent start successfully without an active neutron server  https://review.openstack.org/12391114:53
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HenryGraorn: Let's sync up on terminology first14:58
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HenryGraorn: Currently IPv6 does not have "floating_ip" support in Neutron, so all IPv6 addresses are "fixed_ips". I put these terms in quotes because the concepts don't really apply to IPv6 in exactly the same way as IPv4.14:59
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raornHenryG: yes, i am talking about fixed_ips15:00
raornHenryG: weel, there's my bp - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129910/15:01
raornit allows to specify only ip version when allocating fixed ip for a port15:01
HenryGraorn: Ah, OK, I see where you are coming from now15:02
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raorni made this patch before slaac support and not sure what to do when user want fixed_ips=[{ip_version=6}] and there are several ipv6 subnets, sone with slaac addresses anabled and some not...15:02
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HenryGraorn: This is a good question. Can you attend the IPv6 meeting next week?15:07
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raornwhen, where?15:07
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raorn"Our meetings are held weekly on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC - in #openstack-meeting-alt" ?15:08
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HenryGraorn: That is correct15:12
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raornok, i'll be there15:12
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zilbersteinhello #openstack-neutron15:26
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zilbersteinStderr: '/usr/sbin/neutron-rootwrap: Unauthorized command: kill -9 2913 (no filter matched)\n15:26
zilbersteinHow to fix that ?15:26
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zilbersteinok, I replaced sudo neutron-rootwrapper with sudo15:31
zilbersteinbut where this is coming from: http://pastie.org/9670488 ?15:31
zilberstein( neutron server log )15:31
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HenryGraorn: I looked at the create port API in more detail ...15:33
HenryGraorn: For the fixed_ips option, subnet_id is required15:34
HenryGraorn: A subnet is either v6 or v4. So no need to specify ip version.15:35
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raornHenryG: well, i am specifying ip_version instead of subnet_id.15:40
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raornHenryG: so i don't need to lookup the subnet id. or allocate one address from several small subnets15:41
* HenryG rereads raorn's spec ...15:41
raornlook at inline comments in fist version of a patch15:42
raorn*spec15:42
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* HenryG reads raorn's BP and giggles :)15:43
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raornwhat's so funny? ;-)15:43
HenryGraorn: You might want to correct a minor spelling mistake in your BP. ;)15:43
HenryGraorn: Third word in15:44
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raornwhere?15:46
HenryGraorn: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/fixed-ip-version15:46
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raornlol!15:47
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HenryGraorn: I don't need to know what industry you are in. ;) ;)15:47
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raornwell, i was fixing #1352102 for our havana installation just before filling out the bp, so this is pretty much correct...15:50
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raornHenryG: thanks, fixed ;-)15:51
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clarkbfyi the lbaasv2 branch won't be able to merge any changes until it has a pylint tox env. I think this can be done by syncing master back into that branch16:23
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jschwarzmestery, ping16:38
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jschwarzijw, hi16:44
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ijwhey16:47
jschwarzhi :)16:48
ijwsup?16:48
jschwarzDid you see the comments I added to your spec the other day?16:48
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jschwarzregardless, I'm going to send a mail to Kyle if i can't catch him in the next few mins (going soon) regarding bumping the MTU discussion for the summit16:49
jschwarzit's currently at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-l2, but I think it needs some attention to make sure it doesn't slip between the chairs16:49
jschwarzajo said he'd help (I'm not attending the summit)16:49
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ajoijw, yes, I'll be on the summit16:51
ajoif you will, I'd love to talk about mtu 'stuff' :)16:51
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mesteryjschwarz: Hi there!16:58
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jschwarzmestery, hi :)16:58
mesteryjschwarz ijw: Reading the backscroll16:58
jschwarzty16:58
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mesteryjschwarz: It will come up during hte agent discussion, but is also likely to land on Friday during pod time for more detailed discussions16:59
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jschwarzmestery, marun_ probably has something to say about that16:59
jschwarzmestery, basically that's part of a bigger discussion re: neutron doesn't have an "official" way to push MTU to instances and we probably should16:59
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mesteryjschwarz: Ack, and ijw is interested in this as well.17:00
jschwarzmestery, also there are some 3 different mtu configuration options (one in nova, 2 in neutron) in addition to the spec17:00
jschwarzofcourse, it's his spec :)17:00
marun_mestery, jschwarz, ijw: I think it's an important discussion, but I'm not sure it's something for the wider community.17:00
marun_pod time on Friday limited to interested parties might be preferable to avoid distracting from larger issues during session time17:01
mesteryYes, it's a very good pod candidate17:01
mesteryIt's a good topic for a smaller group that wants to tackle it and make it work well17:01
jschwarzas long as it's on the minds of you guys, I'm happy17:02
jschwarzMTU can seriously hurt useability for deployment admins and should be addressed seriously IMO17:02
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ajohttp://aqleds.github.io/17:06
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ajosorry, wrong window17:06
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jlibosvasomeone can still find it interesting here :)17:07
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ijwsorry, too many things going on at once.  I haven't looked at the MTU spec in a while, but I'll check it later17:10
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jschwarzijw, ack17:15
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jschwarzarmax, thanks for the reviews :)17:18
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jschwarzhave a nice weekend all :)17:24
mesteryjschwarz: You too!17:26
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lorimestery: hi!17:31
mesterylori: Yo!17:31
lorimestery: have you seen the email I sent you about the API extension?17:31
mesterylori: I have, apologies, it's on my backlog to respond to :)17:31
lorimestery: ok, great!17:31
mesterylori: Broadly, it makes sense, have you written it up in a neutron-spec?17:32
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loriI know you're very busy now, no worries17:32
lorimestery: nope, I wanted to see first if it makes sense, and if it's something that's likely to be merged at some point17:32
lorimestery: if it's properly executed17:33
lorimestery: so the next step is to write a neutron-spec, right?17:33
mesterylori: Yes, that's it17:33
lorimestery: will look into that, thanks!17:33
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openstackgerritMichael Smith proposed a change to openstack/neutron: manual add/remove router for dvr_snat agent  https://review.openstack.org/12202418:25
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openstackgerritMichael Smith proposed a change to openstack/neutron: L3 Agent support of manual dvr snat add/remove  https://review.openstack.org/12381518:32
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jogomestery: /close18:44
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mesteryjogo: :P18:44
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manishgopendaylight CI is reporting failure for one for my patches.  is this voting or nonvoting CI?  The failures dont' seem to specific to my test.  Jenkins passes and others have no complaints.18:56
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HenryGraorn: Still around? Have you read the multiple-ipv6-prefixes spec?  https://review.openstack.org/9821719:26
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Remove use_namespaces from RouterInfo Property  https://review.openstack.org/12971519:27
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Ensure ofagent unit tests handles random hashseeds  https://review.openstack.org/12958420:16
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JayJI want to configure two provider networks with neutron. I'm using openvswitch and gre for internal (tenant to tenant) communication. Can anyone suggest me how do I approach that? Some inital googling seem to suggest that that's not supported, which I find hard to believe. Need some help please.20:19
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Remove duplicate import of constants module  https://review.openstack.org/12978820:19
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ZZelle_JayJ, could you clarify your need/troubles20:38
ZZelle_?20:38
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JayJZZelle_: We have two /24 networks. One for each customer. These networks are managend by our edge A10s. Internally we want the traffic to be isolated. Therefore, configuring two separate provider networks seemed like a solution.20:41
ZZelle_JayJ, A10s?20:41
JayJZZelle_: A10s are load balencers. They are outside of Openstack (just mentioned it for context). Think of them as edge firewalls. Nothing to do with Openstack20:42
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ZZelle_A10s support vlan/gre?20:43
JayJZZelle_: If I can configure two provider/external networks to neutron (separate subnets), it solves the problem20:43
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JayJZZelle_: Sorry I mentoned A10. Assume they don't exist20:44
ZZelle_JayJ, you can define provider networks (you only need admin rights)20:45
ZZelle_JayJ, but you need gre provider networks?20:46
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_cjones_Hello guys. Does anyone here know if Arvind Somya hangs out on IRC? I'd like to ask him questions regarding this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114666/720:54
JayJZZelle_: I'am trying to understand that. With a single provider net, I've a br-ex and have the physical port eth2 in the bridge. If I add a second provider network, should I make any changes to that bridge?20:54
JayJZZelle_: I mistakenly sent the above message to wrong thread20:55
ZZelle_JayJ, ok, so i understood nothing20:55
JayJZZelle_: So when I configure a external or provider network, the physical interface to which the network is connected is added to the br-ex. Right?20:56
ZZelle_JayJ, no20:56
JayJZZelle_: hmmm.... I need a 101 on neutron then. How will the folating IP traffic leave the network node then?20:57
ZZelle_JayJ, external network and provider network are not the same thing20:57
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ZZelle_JayJ, external network are external (routers use them for external traffic)20:58
JayJZZelle_: what do you call a network where you allocate floating IPs?20:58
ZZelle_JayJ, provider network are network with provider attributes defined by the admin and not choosen by neutron20:59
mestery_cjones_: He is asomya when he's on IRC, but I've rarely seen him here.20:59
ZZelle_JayJ, an external network20:59
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JayJZZelle_: is there any link that you can point me so I understand this a bit?21:00
_cjones_mestery: Thanks. Figured as much as I've never seen him here either. Just trying to figure out what the end-game is with the dynamic multi-segment stuff. I'm reading through these. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/ml2-type-driver-refactor,n,z21:01
ZZelle_JayJ, AFAIK no because there are multiple ways to bind l3 agent to external network21:01
_cjones_mestery: Do you know who would have more intimate knowledge on this if not asomya?21:01
JayJZZelle_: makes my life no easy..21:01
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ZZelle_JayJ, the "historical way": use br-ex but a most one external network could be binded to br-ex per l3-agent21:02
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ZZelle_JayJ, in such case no specific config if you have one external network (and one l3 agent perhaps)21:03
JayJZZelle_: yes that's what I got now.21:03
ZZelle_JayJ, if you have multiple external networks you need to explicitly associate each ext-net to a l3-agent21:03
ZZelle_JayJ, so l3-agent number >= external network number21:04
ZZelle_JayJ, annoying21:04
ZZelle_JayJ, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/923467279a9387ed498a0fc2c7c315a7d7749a84/etc/l3_agent.ini#L30-L3521:05
ZZelle_JayJ, but there is an other way ... the new one21:06
ZZelle_JayJ, use br-int not br-ex21:06
JayJZZelle_: Whay's the new way?21:06
ZZelle_JayJ, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/923467279a9387ed498a0fc2c7c315a7d7749a84/etc/l3_agent.ini#L44-L4621:06
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ZZelle_JayJ, if external_network_bridge is empty, l3-agent will not use the br-ex but uses br-int and external-network will be binded as internal network21:07
JayJZZelle_: Currently, external_network_bridge is set to br-ex (hence single external net). I'm going to try your suggestion21:08
ZZelle_JayJ, which implies you can bind many external networks on the same l3-agent (thanks to internal network isolation)21:08
JayJZZelle_: ok21:08
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JayJZZelle_: Thanks a bunch. I'm going to try this out.21:08
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ZZelle_JayJ, beware in such case external network is no more binded to br-ex so you need to do it yourself21:09
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ZZelle_JayJ, typically by defining vlan external network and bind directly your old br-ex network on the vlan21:10
JayJZZelle_: Do you remove the br-ex?21:10
JayJZZelle_: Or just takeout the port21:10
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ZZelle_the best would be to destroy your external network, than destroy br-ex, than update neutron-l3-agent than restart l3-agent21:12
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JayJZZelle_: Sorry dropped out of VPN for a sec21:13
ZZelle_JayJ, the best would be to destroy your external network, than destroy br-ex, than update neutron-l3-agent than restart l3-agent21:13
JayJZZelle_: Will do21:13
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ZZelle_JayJ, when you switch between the 2 ways existing external networks are not correctly reconfigured21:14
ZZelle_mestery, hi21:14
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: BSN: Optimistic locking strategy for consistency  https://review.openstack.org/12426521:18
mesteryZZelle_: Phone call21:18
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/neutron: Big Switch: Switch to TLSv1 in server manager  https://review.openstack.org/13039521:20
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openstackgerritmark mcclain proposed a change to openstack/neutron: enable E713 in pep8 tests  https://review.openstack.org/9952221:24
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/neutron: BSN: Optimistic locking strategy for consistency  https://review.openstack.org/12426521:29
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openstackgerritmark mcclain proposed a change to openstack/neutron: enable F402 check for flake8  https://review.openstack.org/9954821:31
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openstackgerritmark mcclain proposed a change to openstack/neutron: enable F811 check for flake8  https://review.openstack.org/9954921:46
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ChuckCyamahata_: hi22:45
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openstackgerritChuck Carlino proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Allow port mac_address to be modified  https://review.openstack.org/11212922:59
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svetmyHi, my external network showing Provider Network: Network Type: vxlan. My physical switch doesn't support vxlan. Can I easily change provider network type to gre?23:03
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kevinbentonarmax: ping23:49
armaxkevinbenton: pong23:50
kevinbentonarmax: can we go forward with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124478/ ?23:50
armaxhaven’t processed it yet23:50
armaxI am getting there23:50
armaxif 2 other cores beat me to it we shouldn’t hold it though I guess23:51
kevinbentonarmax: ok, just wanted to make sure it didn’t fall out of the queue23:51
armaxwhose queue?23:51
armaxmine?23:51
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kevinbentonyeah23:54
armaxyou are in the VIP lane23:54
kevinbentonarmax: usually you are much faster to complain about my code :-)23:54
armaxkevinbenton: perhaps this is a good sign :)23:55
kevinbentonarmax: it’s like a geiger counter in a nuclear power plant. if it completely stops beeping, something is wrong. :-)23:57
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