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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack/neutron-specs: Umbrella spec for VMware/Neutron support https://review.openstack.org/105369 | 01:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Remove XML support https://review.openstack.org/128095 | 03:31 |
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| trinaths | Hi All, Very Good Morning | 04:52 |
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| yfried | dansmith: ping | 06:54 |
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| jschwarz | rossella_s, happy to see Maru reviewed your patch finally :) | 07:10 |
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| trinaths | irenab: Hi, Good Morning :) | 07:17 |
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| trinaths | irenab: [doubt] How do nova know to use which VF of the SR-IOV vNIC? | 07:37 |
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| irenab | trinaths: hi! Good morning | 07:41 |
| jschwarz | hello trinaths ;p | 07:43 |
| irenab | trinaths: on each compute node in nova.conf the admin should define pci_passthrough_whitelist for available for allocation VFs. Then the information will be known to nova-scheduler. Once VM is scheduled to the host that has available VF, some VF will be chosen | 07:44 |
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| irenab | trinaths: once neutron port binding:vnic_type is either 'direct' or 'macvap', nova will add pci_request into instance metadata to be consumed by the scheduler | 07:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed a change to openstack/neutron: l3_db.py: factor out port creation/deletion/update logic for router vm https://review.openstack.org/124699 | 07:48 |
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| trinaths | irenab: okay, then how to allocate a particular VM to a VF> | 07:53 |
| trinaths | jschwarz: Hello :) | 07:53 |
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| irenab | trinaths: not sure I understand your question | 08:02 |
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| irenab | trinaths: if you want VM to have vNIC based on sriov VF, you create neutron port with binding:vnic_type= direct, then run 'nova boot', the VF is chosen by nova, not user | 08:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Enable no-name-in-module pylint check https://review.openstack.org/130055 | 08:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marios Andreou proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Reorder operations in (l3_dvr) update floating ip bug 1381617 https://review.openstack.org/130221 | 09:01 |
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| trinaths | irenab: okay | 09:11 |
| irenab | trinaths: hope this answers your question | 09:14 |
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| devvesa | Hi! anyone knows if there is a way to reserve pods for the Kilo design in Paris? | 09:29 |
| jschwarz | probably mestery knows ;[ | 09:29 |
| jschwarz | ;p | 09:29 |
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| brad__ | hi all | 09:32 |
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| jschwarz | hi brad__ | 09:34 |
| trinaths | hi brad__ | 09:35 |
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| brad__ | :) | 09:37 |
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| irenab | balajip: ping | 11:05 |
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| trinaths | irenab: Hi, | 11:06 |
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| irenab | trinaths: hi | 11:43 |
| trinaths | irenab: Got a question, If we buy Mellnox ConnectX family vNIC, will the SR-IOV implementation in Juno works fine? | 11:44 |
| trinaths | irenab: I mean, the sriov MD and agent implementation in neutron. and PCI pass thorugh implementation in Nova. | 11:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/131113 | 11:48 |
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| irenab | trinaths: yes, it works | 11:48 |
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| trinaths | irenab: okay, thank you :) | 11:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: enable F402 check for flake8 https://review.openstack.org/99548 | 11:53 |
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| irenab | trinaths: if you have some more specific questions, I can provide you a contact. Maybe worth to initiate some POC | 11:54 |
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| trinaths | irenab: very sure, As I dig into the code, and understand it, I can get back to you. | 11:54 |
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| irenab | trinaths: sure | 11:56 |
| visualne__ | anyone familiar with this bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1361542 | 11:58 |
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| visualne__ | Does anyone know if the l3 agent needs to be started in order to create networks within tenants | 12:22 |
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| raorn | visualne__: l3 agent is needed to connect "outside" networks and "tenant" networks | 12:31 |
| visualne__ | ya I know | 12:31 |
| visualne__ | just got a bug here | 12:31 |
| visualne__ | wont start | 12:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Use RPC instead of neutron client in metadata agent https://review.openstack.org/121782 | 12:57 |
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| ZZelle | ihrachyshka, hi | 13:01 |
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| mestery | Morning Neutron folks. | 13:05 |
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| ihrachyshka | mestery: hey. we still haven't received any core reviews for policy module update that blocks several oslo graduation patches | 13:10 |
| mestery | ihrachyshka: Link? | 13:10 |
| ihrachyshka | https://review.openstack.org/123673 | 13:10 |
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| ihrachyshka | I know we're in bad part of the cycle atm... ;) | 13:10 |
| mestery | ihrachyshka: Yes, I htink most folks concentrated on summit, but I am here to help you! I'll look now. | 13:11 |
| trinaths | mestery: Good Morning Sir. :) | 13:11 |
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| mestery | ihrachyshka: I'd really like to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101281/10 before your policy patch, I'm hoping salv-orlando can do that for me today (hint salv-orlando) ... | 13:12 |
| mestery | trinaths: Hi there! | 13:12 |
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| ihrachyshka | mestery: ah yeah, this one will require rework on Elena part... | 13:12 |
| haleyb | visualne__: did you ever find out where ipv6_utils.py was getting imported from? seems like you need to figure that out first since it's more of a deployment problem than a neutron problem | 13:13 |
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| anteaya | mestery: this is all yours: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/third-party-announce/2014-October/000085.html | 13:13 |
| mestery | anteaya: Looks | 13:13 |
| visualne__ | haleyb: never found it. I restarted the box. That file only exists in one place | 13:13 |
| anteaya | mestery: also please let him know to not change the subject of an email when replying | 13:14 |
| mestery | anteaya: trinaths is here right now even! :) | 13:14 |
| anteaya | this list doesnt' need additional tags | 13:14 |
| anteaya | mestery: lucky you | 13:14 |
| mestery | trinaths: Did you see anteaya's comments here? | 13:14 |
| * anteaya goes back to packing | 13:14 | |
| mestery | anteaya: Thanks! :) | 13:14 |
| anteaya | mestery: once you decide what to do Kyle, you let me know | 13:14 |
| mestery | anteaya: Will do, thanks for the heads up! | 13:14 |
| haleyb | visualne__: why don't you just load the ipv6 module to get past it? | 13:15 |
| visualne__ | I guess the good folks in our security department dont want it on | 13:16 |
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| haleyb | visualne__: did you see my note before about disabling it via a module option? you shouldn't need to blacklist it to get it disabled | 13:17 |
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| visualne__ | disable it via module option. you mean in modprobe.conf | 13:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Check for concurrent port binding deletion before binding the port https://review.openstack.org/124650 | 13:26 |
| haleyb | visualne__: yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1361542/comments/2 | 13:26 |
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| haleyb | blacklisting is so 2008 :) | 13:28 |
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| trinaths1 | I'm back | 13:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Vilgelm proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Sanitize the wql params in the hyperv/utilsv2 module https://review.openstack.org/131428 | 13:34 |
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| mriedem | mestery: hey, i'm wondering why https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/0a64b61f8cbf41e1bf74961c235f03ac6cc6ead6 isn't tagged with 2014.2? the change was merged to proposed/juno: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126902/ | 13:49 |
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| mriedem | but it looks like it didn't make the 2014.2 release? | 13:49 |
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| enikanorov | ZZelle: hi | 13:50 |
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| mestery | mriedem: Looking | 13:52 |
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| pc_m_ | mestery: Hi! | 13:53 |
| mestery | mriedem: This is the bug for that change, it looks like it's tagged as 2014.2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1369685 | 13:53 |
| mestery | pc_m_: Morning! | 13:53 |
| mriedem | mestery: ttx manually updates the bugs | 13:53 |
| mestery | mriedem: So you're saying the change isn't a part of the 2014.2 tag itself? | 13:54 |
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| pc_m_ | mestery: Can you help with facilitating some core reviews of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123877/? A bunch of Cisco folks have reviewed, and the BP Spec is approved for this change. | 13:54 |
| mriedem | mestery: i'm going to look a bit deeper | 13:54 |
| mestery | pc_m: Will do sir! | 13:54 |
| pc_m_ | mestery: Thanks! | 13:54 |
| mestery | mriedem: It's not a part of the tag? | 13:54 |
| mriedem | mestery: i've seen some weird merge things with the proposed branches before | 13:54 |
| mestery | mriedem: OK, cool, let me know what you find, thanks! | 13:54 |
| pc_m_ | mestery: bummed I won't get to see you at the Summit this year. | 13:54 |
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| mestery | pc_m_: Same here. You and HenryG need to make a work trip to MN yet this year so we can hang out and hack neutron. :P | 13:55 |
| pc_m_ | mestery: :) | 13:55 |
| mestery | pc_m_: I'm working on the mid-cycle planning now, so it's likely we'll see each other there. Make sure you and HenryG get approval for that! ;) | 13:56 |
| mriedem | mestery: false alarm, it's there https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commits/2014.2/neutron/agent/firewall.py - github wasn't showing the 2014.2 tag on the commit for some reason, it does for others though | 13:56 |
| pc_m_ | mestery: Will do! | 13:56 |
| mestery | mriedem: Whew! I've seen odd things like that before with github vs. openstack git. | 13:56 |
| pc_m_ | mestery: Will have to chat with you about Kilo refactoring as I'll be available to help out starting around the summit (just need to get this VPN work done). | 13:57 |
| mestery | pc_m_: Perfect, we'll be looking for people to jump in, lots of work to do there! | 13:57 |
| pc_m_ | mestery: Yeah. Let me know if there is someone I should touch base with at the Summit. Need to get oriented to what is needed. | 13:59 |
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| ZZelle | enikanorov, hi | 14:05 |
| visualne__ | haleyb: yes that is how the ipv6 module is disabled currently | 14:05 |
| visualne__ | haleyb: there is a ipv6.conf file with this line in it: options ipv6 disable=1 | 14:06 |
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| haleyb | visualne__: then you should have that /proc entry assuming ipv6 is loaded | 14:07 |
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| visualne__ | haleyb: /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/disable_ipv6 doesn't appear to exist | 14:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexey I. Froloff proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Allow to allocate 'any-ipv4' or 'any-ipv6' fixed_ip https://review.openstack.org/131444 | 14:11 |
| haleyb | visualne__: lsmod | grep ipv6 | 14:11 |
| trinaths1 | mestery: Hi Sir, I have sent an email regarding the CI. Can you comment on it please? | 14:12 |
| mestery | trinaths1: Will do, it's on my list. | 14:12 |
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| visualne__ | ipv6 318183 2 ib_addr,cnic | 14:13 |
| trinaths1 | mestery: Thanks a lot Sir. Leaving to Home.. :) | 14:13 |
| trinaths1 | irenab: Hi, You there? | 14:14 |
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| trinaths1 | mestery: For now I have moved CI setup out of network, Will make it active once the CI is enabled. I have seen that that particular patch received that many results from CI. I have given a clear explanation in the email. | 14:17 |
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| visualne_ | haleyb: do you have any idea why that module is listed in the lsmod output but the directory path under /proc doesn't exist? | 14:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Marios Andreou proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Reorder operations in (l3_dvr) update floating ip https://review.openstack.org/130221 | 14:24 |
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| haleyb | visualne__: you have some debugging to do is the easy answer. I know a kernel can be built without /proc/sys support, but haven't seen it | 14:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed a change to openstack/neutron: openvswitch/ofagent: Remove OVS.enable_tunneling option https://review.openstack.org/130708 | 14:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Murali Birru proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Don't schedule a router with no interfaces attached to it https://review.openstack.org/102512 | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chuck Carlino proposed a change to openstack/neutron: Manage arp entries for LBaas VIP and DHCP ports https://review.openstack.org/128134 | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed a change to openstack/neutron: l3_db.py: factor out port creation/deletion/update logic for router vm https://review.openstack.org/124699 | 14:50 |
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| marios_ | ZZelle: ping hey - can i get some feedback on the -1 at rev 6 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130221/ | 14:51 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: hi! | 14:57 |
| ZZelle | marios, hi, sorry, i forget to commit my comment | 14:58 |
| marios_ | ZZelle: np have done it before | 14:59 |
| salv-orlando | hi marun | 15:01 |
| salv-orlando | how can I help you? | 15:01 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: I was reading your comments on john's integration test framework and was hoping to talk to you about it. | 15:01 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I wasn't sure how you expected tempest infrastructure to be useful, given that it specialized to target deployed cloud. | 15:02 |
| marun | salv-orlando: But has no provision for doing setup/teardown of its test target. | 15:02 |
| marun | salv-orlando: Having worked with tempest quite a bit, I think we have to go our own way. | 15:03 |
| salv-orlando | marun: I would dare to suggest that given our history I would be a bit wary of going our own way. | 15:04 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: why | 15:04 |
| marios_ | ZZelle: thanks, replied | 15:04 |
| salv-orlando | marun: because we can’t get anything done properly. | 15:04 |
| marun | salv-orlando: provided we write our tests in a sane way, we should be able to move to different infrastructure without too much trouble | 15:05 |
| marun | salv-orlando: Clean separation between fixture management and the tests themselves, I mean. | 15:05 |
| marun | salv-orlando: And you think throwing the bone to the larger community is going to give us more success? | 15:05 |
| marun | salv-orlando: as in, you think neutron's dysfunction is an isolated occurence? | 15:06 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: I could be taking you too seriously, though. Something about a rifle? ;) | 15:06 |
| salv-orlando | marun: I just think reusing what is already there is a way for achieving something albeit suboptimal | 15:06 |
| salv-orlando | unless you will now tell me this framework is at end of the day no more than a few hundred lines | 15:07 |
| marun | salv-orlando: It shouldn't be huge. | 15:07 |
| salv-orlando | but I read the spec and I understood that we want to run integration tests, but for neutron only. | 15:07 |
| marun | salv-orlando: tempest is a grab bag of stuff | 15:07 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: we need to be able to manage neutron services and make calls to them | 15:08 |
| salv-orlando | marun: when I say tempest I’m probably not precise at all. | 15:08 |
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| salv-orlando | I just meant to say the tools that the qa and infra team have put together | 15:08 |
| salv-orlando | tempest as a test collection is pointless in this case agreed. The qa team is also trying to get rid of those tests. | 15:08 |
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| salv-orlando | “those” == the tests that are not really useful on the <<integrated>> gate checks | 15:09 |
| marun | salv-orlando: the qa project does not solve, via tempest or otherwise, management of services for testing. | 15:09 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: it is strictly a white-box effort. | 15:09 |
| marun | salv-orlando: we need more control over our environment so we can do things like vary the configuration between tests | 15:10 |
| marun | salv-orlando: as well as do things like fault injection | 15:10 |
| marun | salv-orlando: so yes, we need something new | 15:10 |
| salv-orlando | marun: I think I have to disagree with you here. But before showing you all my disagreement, let me ask you exactly what you mean by management of services for testing | 15:10 |
| marun | salv-orlando: Uh | 15:10 |
| marun | salv-orlando: How about you start with disagreement | 15:10 |
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| salv-orlando | nope because I’m sure you mean something different from what I mean here | 15:11 |
| marun | salv-orlando: because from what I can see, configuring neutron and starting it and the agents is not something the qa project has put any resources into | 15:11 |
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| salv-orlando | marun: devstack-gate and devstack actually allow a lot of flexibility. But they do not have capabilities for changing configurations “on the fly” and restart services | 15:11 |
| raorn | so, guys. there's a blueprint that's more than 6 months old - https://review.openstack.org/96166 | 15:12 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I'll have to take a breath | 15:12 |
| salv-orlando | marun: ah so you want to have a fight ;) I shall bring knives and rifles to Paris then! | 15:12 |
| marun | salv-orlando: The thought of involving devstack in a dynamic test execution environment makes me lightheaded | 15:12 |
| marun | salv-orlando: If that's the way you think we should go, I can see why failure is foremost in your mind. | 15:13 |
| salv-orlando | marun: that’s why I asked beforehand | 15:13 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: we need to be able to programatically manage neutron's services/agents/etc | 15:13 |
| salv-orlando | marun: so each test set ups service/agent configuration to suit their own needs. | 15:14 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: i.e. we need some framework so that developers can do that easily rather than fighting with an error-prone monstrosity (aka devstack) | 15:14 |
| marun | salv-orlando: yes | 15:14 |
| salv-orlando | like for instance, enabling dvr and removing the metering agent, for instance | 15:14 |
| marun | salv-orlando: and do so with a guarantee of isolation so that we can parallelize without fear of conflict | 15:14 |
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| salv-orlando | marun: I am happy to discuss anything that needs to be discussed - but you can’t deny you have a bit of prejudice! | 15:15 |
| marun | salv-orlando: yeah, I'm sane. | 15:15 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I like my test environment to be usable by mortals. | 15:15 |
| marun | salv-orlando: our current devstack+tempest is the farthest thing from reproduceble and sane, and I would think that you would be the first to agree. | 15:16 |
| marun | salv-orlando: the point is in limiting the scope of testing as much as possible, involving as little complexity as we can manage. | 15:16 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: that doesn't suggest reusing the old methods that have proven extremely ineffective in terms of developer time and effort - yours most of all. | 15:17 |
| salv-orlando | marun: for sane, I’ve stopped asking what that means a lot of time ago. For reproducible, it is as long as you don’t need to change your configuration | 15:17 |
| marun | salv-orlando: that's the problem | 15:17 |
| marun | salv-orlando: we test such a narrow range of possibility that 'works in the gate' means nothing when it comes to production. | 15:17 |
| marun | salv-orlando: because nobody has the luxury of using the same limited set of options that we test with. | 15:17 |
| marun | salv-orlando: So, we'll need to vary configuration a lot more. | 15:18 |
| marun | salv-orlando: And we can't do that if we're testing at too high a level all the time. | 15:18 |
| marun | salv-orlando: or use tooling that supports varying configuration poorly if at all. | 15:18 |
| salv-orlando | marun: I am not saying we have to use devstack or that we have to faill into the same rabbit hole that forces gate test to elect a small matrix of configurations | 15:18 |
| marun | salv-orlando: Then I'm confused. | 15:19 |
| salv-orlando | I am saying that there is a lot of harness in the qa project that we should look at reusing as much as possible to reduce yak shaving to a minimum | 15:19 |
| marun | salv-orlando: What existing infrastructure are you suggesting we reuse for in-tree integration testing? | 15:19 |
| marun | salv-orlando: Do you really think I'm not for reuse wherever possible? | 15:19 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: see -> retargetable testing (just don't comment on that it still hasn't merged) | 15:19 |
| marun | salv-orlando: Maybe where we're not seeing eye to eye is the term 'integration testing' | 15:20 |
| salv-orlando | for instance, all the bits in tempest that check for timeouts, connect via ssh to validate connectivity etc. etc. | 15:20 |
| marun | salv-orlando: we don't need that | 15:20 |
| salv-orlando | marun: I am conviced you will convince me we don’t need anything | 15:20 |
| marun | salv-orlando: Given that I helped write some of that, trust me when I say I would be more than happy to reuse. | 15:20 |
| marun | salv-orlando: trust a developer to hold on tight to useful code | 15:21 |
| marun | salv-orlando: we're not going to ssh into anything | 15:21 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: that's for tempest-level scenario testing | 15:21 |
| marun | salv-orlando: we don't even know that vm's exist in-tree | 15:21 |
| salv-orlando | so you’re positive that everyhting which already exists is already either useless, badly designed or of a level of quality so low we can easily do better? | 15:21 |
| marun | salv-orlando: things like timeouts? We might be able to reuse some utility code like that, supplied by tempestlib | 15:21 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I'm saying we're targeting different use-cases | 15:22 |
| marun | salv-orlando: where useful functionality can be provided by tempestlib, great! | 15:22 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: reuse - for sure | 15:22 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: when it comes to managing neutron services, ensuring their isolation, and validating connetivity? | 15:22 |
| marun | salv-orlando: it's greenfield, I'm afraid. | 15:23 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I wish that weren't the case. | 15:23 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: we're going to be in uncharted territory as far as openstack is concerned. | 15:23 |
| marun | salv-orlando: are we going to be able to factor out common stuff for reuse, eventually? of course! | 15:24 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I don't think we need to design-by-committe at the outset, though. | 15:24 |
| salv-orlando | marun: I see where you’re going. | 15:24 |
| salv-orlando | marun: just to make sure I understand correctly the strategy for this framework… eventually you would like to factor it out so that it won’t be just a framework for managing neutron services | 15:25 |
| salv-orlando | and their configuration | 15:25 |
| marun | salv-orlando: absolutely | 15:25 |
| salv-orlando | but in the meanwhile it’s not a qa thing, it’s a neutron thing | 15:25 |
| marun | salv-orlando: it's a neutron thing because we're a bit ahead of the curve | 15:26 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: once some of the other projects like nova - they have a session to discuss at summit - catch up and can contribute, then we should talk about moving to oslo | 15:26 |
| salv-orlando | and there will be nothing to gain from involving the qa team | 15:26 |
| marun | salv-orlando: but so long as we're the only ones implementing, I don't see the point of slowing things down | 15:26 |
| marun | salv-orlando: The qa team doesn't know neutron like we do | 15:27 |
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| salv-orlando | marun: the last 3 words of the previous sentence confirm I understood your feelings | 15:27 |
| marun | salv-orlando: They're free to be involved, but what specialized knowledge do they bring that we need in the near term? | 15:27 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I'm assuming that your last statement has negative implications? | 15:28 |
| salv-orlando | marun: not at all. | 15:28 |
| salv-orlando | marun: As I said I am just trying to ensure we don’t end up chewing more that what we can bite | 15:28 |
| marun | salv-orlando: I take your point that we should involve them | 15:28 |
| marun | salv-orlando: but I don't think we're trying to boil the ocean here | 15:28 |
| marun | salv-orlando: the goal is making it easier for developers to ensure the quality of neutron | 15:29 |
| salv-orlando | marun: Indeed I said chewing more that we can bite ;) no reference to oceans! | 15:29 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: that is kind of orthogonal to what the qa team has done up till now | 15:29 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: which is to try to ensure the quality of openstack in spite of developer's ignorance of how to ensure quality | 15:30 |
| salv-orlando | marun: yes. It’s somethign that have never been attempeted before. Right. So let’s give this is a spin. | 15:30 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: I can never tell if you're joking or not, since surely this has been attempted, but if you're game to give us rope to hang ourselves, I'll take it. :) | 15:32 |
| salv-orlando | marun: I never had any concern on the goal. | 15:32 |
| salv-orlando | marun: I thought however it was important to ensure we were not reinventing the wheel | 15:33 |
| salv-orlando | marun: or building a cathedral in the desert | 15:33 |
| salv-orlando | marun: the plan sounds sane - we’ll reuse whatever we can, so that’s fine. | 15:33 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: I'll talk to matt and co on the qa side. | 15:34 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: I think it does make sense to involve them in the planning, and maybe in the spec process. | 15:34 |
| marun | salv-orlando: you've raised a concern in me for that at least | 15:34 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: I definitely want to keep it simple, though. you can count on that | 15:34 |
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| raorn | salv-orlando: six months have passed, can you please take another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96166/ ? | 15:43 |
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| john-davidge | Hi all o/ | 16:10 |
| john-davidge | Can we get some review attention on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129865 please? | 16:10 |
| john-davidge | This is a fix for an upstream bug that's causing me some trouble | 16:10 |
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| visualne__ | Is there anyone in here that can give me a little information on this bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1361542 | 16:40 |
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| haleyb | visualne_: have you debugged your module issue? I don't think it's appropriate to continue asking the same question without debugging why your system is different than others | 16:50 |
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| visualne_ | no I havent debugged the module issue | 16:51 |
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| visualne_ | Im curious to know why the hell | 16:51 |
| visualne_ | a piece of code | 16:51 |
| visualne_ | is run | 16:51 |
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| visualne_ | when I commented out all of the code | 16:51 |
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| haleyb | that's not specifially a neutron issue, more deployment | 16:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/neutron: Add advsvc role to neutron policy file https://review.openstack.org/101281 | 20:51 |
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