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| gus | Converting code to taskflow makes my head hurt. Our current code-via-mixins, big-transactions, and try/execpt blocks are very un-taskflow-friendly. :( | 00:48 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: do you have any WIP things i can look at? I'm interested in that | 01:30 |
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| yalie | hi, amotoki? | 01:52 |
| yalie | could you help to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131367/ ? | 01:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Xu Han Peng proposed openstack/neutron: Support Extra DHCP Options for IPv4 and IPv6 https://review.openstack.org/136713 | 02:10 |
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| gus | kevinbenton: (apparently I've confused git rebase why my merge from manish's earlier work. I'll give you the gerrit link once I've worked out how to untangle git) | 02:24 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: k | 02:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: ofagent: Switch to flow-based tunneling https://review.openstack.org/130677 | 02:30 |
| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: l2population_rpc: Make fdb_add_tun/fdb_remove_tun more flexible https://review.openstack.org/130676 | 02:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: ml2 taskflow proof-of-concept https://review.openstack.org/136950 | 02:52 |
| gus | kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/136950 | 02:52 |
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| gus | I started with Manish's patch (see description), and I'm literally in the middle of hacking it up. So you probably want to look at his and/or a diff between the two to make some sense of it. | 02:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Test HA router failover https://review.openstack.org/117994 | 02:53 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: this is cool | 02:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/136687 | 02:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Catch NoResultFound in _get_policy_profile_by_name https://review.openstack.org/135533 | 02:57 |
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| gus | kevinbenton: my short experience so far says its east to wrap a single function and then invoke it later sync or async in a taskflow worker pool. | 02:58 |
| gus | easy enough to break out a long function of library calls too. | 02:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Eliminate unnecessary indirection in L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/129718 | 02:58 |
| kevinbenton | gus: dependency injection! | 02:58 |
| kevinbenton | gus: this is blasphemy | 02:59 |
| gus | quite hard however to break out a bunch of 'mixin' library calls, because now you need to pass around the full object. | 02:59 |
| gus | (and the full object might not be serialisable, which *theoretically* taskflow arguments should be. - so they can be persisted if you're using all those fancy taskflow options) | 02:59 |
| kevinbenton | gus: ouch | 03:00 |
| kevinbenton | gus: well this is a good start though | 03:00 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: where does the 'name' show up? | 03:01 |
| kevinbenton | gus: like in a list of tasks or something? | 03:01 |
| SamYaple | Question for you guys. What would cause would metadata services to start making a whole bunch of queries every 5 minutes (exactly every 5 minutes; 00:00.00, 00:05.00, 00:10.00, ... 23:55.00)? | 03:01 |
| SamYaple | Enough queuries to make keystone take 30 seconds to respond | 03:02 |
| gus | kevinbenton: yeah, it's just a label used for logging/reporting. | 03:02 |
| SamYaple | something like 1000 different token requests | 03:02 |
| gus | in particular it doesn't even have to be unique. | 03:02 |
| kevinbenton | gus: preemted my next question | 03:02 |
| kevinbenton | preempted*? | 03:02 |
| kevinbenton | however you spell it | 03:03 |
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| kevinbenton | SamYaple: not sure, you mean queries to the neutron server or to nova? | 03:03 |
| SamYaple | kevinbenton: Problem is we can reproduce it so we dont know at the moment. | 03:07 |
| SamYaple | It happends every 5 minutes, but we cant find the trigger | 03:07 |
| SamYaple | during that time a whole bunch of tokens are created for python-neutronclient coming form the neutron-server and nova-api-metadata service | 03:08 |
| SamYaple | wierd things is it happens on the head of every 5 minutes no matter what services we stop and restart | 03:09 |
| openstackgerrit | vishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for introducing Brocade Vyatta Firewall solution using a new vendor specific device driver for Neutron L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/136953 | 03:13 |
| kevinbenton | SamYaple: do you have a lot of running VMs? | 03:14 |
| SamYaple | kevinbenton: >200 | 03:14 |
| SamYaple | not alot my any means | 03:14 |
| kevinbenton | SamYaple: i would suggest enabling debug logging on one of the neutron metadata proxy agents and then check the log output | 03:15 |
| SamYaple | nothing useful | 03:16 |
| kevinbenton | SamYaple: does it show anything during the activity? | 03:16 |
| SamYaple | it does. | 03:16 |
| SamYaple | no api calls were made to the neutron-server or metadata service | 03:16 |
| SamYaple | (explicitly blocked for testing this issue) | 03:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Xu Han Peng proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for IBM plugin log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136955 | 03:18 |
| kevinbenton | SamYaple: oh, so no requests at all to the metadata service during that time | 03:19 |
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| SamYaple | kevinbenton: correct, however the metadata processes and neutron-server are the ones connecting with keystone (through the python-neutronclient libs) | 03:20 |
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| kevinbenton | SamYaple: strange. I gtg for now. But can you file a bug and send the link to me? | 03:22 |
| kevinbenton | SamYaple: and I will look at the periodic tasks performed by the agent | 03:23 |
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| SamYaple | kevinbenton: I will have to get permission to post logs for that, but ill try (corporate policies and all) | 03:24 |
| SamYaple | thanks | 03:24 |
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| SamYaple | What is the purpose of the neutron-ns-metadata-proxy when running in a router namespace on port 8775? | 04:06 |
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| jamespd | SamYaple: that allows instances to get info about themselves via http://169.254.169.254/ | 04:10 |
| jamespd | there will be some iptables redirection to direct 169.254.169.254:80 to the metadata proxy. | 04:10 |
| haleyb | SamYaple: I'm sure there's a diagram somewhere, but there's an iptables redirect rule for port 80 sending things to 8775. That proxy then talks to the metadata-server, which talks to the nova metadata server | 04:10 |
| haleyb | or i'll just let jamespd reply :) | 04:11 |
| jamespd | :D | 04:12 |
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| jamespd | teamwork makes the dream-work. | 04:12 |
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| haleyb | http://books.google.com/books?id=iXrKBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT135&lpg=PT135&dq=diagram+showing+neutron+metadata+proxy&source=bl&ots=IG1pCJm4-v&sig=_8cEqAwhK3789EXoxFxqC68nulU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_AF0VPXbI8ynNvaNgIgH&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=diagram%20showing%20neutron%20metadata%20proxy&f=false has a diagram, and the steps taken | 04:15 |
| haleyb | That's a picture from the neutron book rackspace wrote | 04:16 |
| SamYaple | thanks jamespd | 04:16 |
| SamYaple | thanks haleyb (i sit right next to james) | 04:17 |
| haleyb | np, have a good one | 04:17 |
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| SamYaple | my question was more about why this would when the networks are not behind a router | 04:18 |
| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: test_attributes: Fix UT failure on some platforms https://review.openstack.org/136238 | 04:18 |
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| haleyb | SamYaple: as in no neutron router? | 04:18 |
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| SamYaple | haleyb: give me a moment to collect my thoughts on a statement. doing mutliple things at once | 04:19 |
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| haleyb | I will read scrollback tomorrow, getting late here, but look at the link i pasted above, maybe it will help | 04:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for linuxbridge log msg's https://review.openstack.org/134338 | 04:54 |
| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: hacking: Check if correct log markers are used https://review.openstack.org/136966 | 04:58 |
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| SamYaple | Sorry for the delay, haleyb. | 05:05 |
| SamYaple | /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/neutron-ns-metadata-proxy --pid_file=/var/lib/neutron/external/pids/b40c68f8-6daf-4e12-b0a7-a4d3622d6fbd.pid --metadata_pr | 05:06 |
| SamYaple | oxy_socket=/var/lib/neutron/metadata_proxy --router_id=b40c68f8-6daf-4e12-b0a7-a4d3622d6fbd --state_path=/var/lib/neutron --metadata_port=8775 --log-file=neutron-ns-metadata-proxy-b40c68f8-6daf-4e12-b0a7-a4d3622d6fbd.log --log-dir=/var/log/neutron | 05:06 |
| SamYaple | that process, what is its purpose | 05:06 |
| SamYaple | it runs in the router namespace and listens on port 8775 | 05:06 |
| SamYaple | As far as I know it (according to that above diagram as well) it shouldnt ever go through the router namespace | 05:07 |
| trinaths | Good Morning All | 05:08 |
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| SamYaple | hello trinaths | 05:10 |
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| trinaths | Hello SamYaple. How is the day going on. :) | 05:37 |
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| SamYaple | So far, not so good. Ugly reoccuring issue | 05:41 |
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| trinaths | SamYaple: Oh! Okay. | 05:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/136975 | 06:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: ovs_lib: Introduce get_bridge_name_for_datapath_id https://review.openstack.org/134440 | 06:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: Remove ryu plugin https://review.openstack.org/133392 | 06:16 |
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| jschwarz | \o/ | 06:21 |
| jschwarz | marun, ping | 06:23 |
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| jschwarz | ijw, ping | 07:25 |
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| ijw | jschwarz: pong | 07:31 |
| jschwarz | ijw, hi friend, how are you? | 07:32 |
| ijw | good ta | 07:32 |
| ijw | better if I hadnt tried to ,ain myself when baking, but hey ;) | 07:32 |
| ijw | maim | 07:32 |
| ijw | on the finger, hence the typing. | 07:32 |
| jschwarz | lol, baking's hard :) | 07:32 |
| jschwarz | ijw, was wondering if there's any progress on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105989/ | 07:33 |
| ijw | that the mtu bp? | 07:33 |
| jschwarz | yes | 07:33 |
| ijw | that's actually what I've just stopped editing cos I burned my finger ;) | 07:33 |
| jschwarz | :) | 07:34 |
| ijw | But yep, looking at the comments. I think largely the approach is right despite some criticism in there on the 'too many knobs' front, just need to rewrite it to justify that | 07:34 |
| jschwarz | Happy to hear that | 07:34 |
| jschwarz | I know some of us are really interested in getting this resolved re: technical debt, and Armando is also giving it some attention so it can probably get merged and get some priority | 07:35 |
| ijw | Also, I've had a lot mor thought on the ml2 implementation - I was avoiding implementation details in favour of 'here's the API and that's what we need right now' but I was going to add that in | 07:35 |
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| jschwarz | I think the implementation details is an important part here since there are so many possibilities on the "way to go" | 07:36 |
| ijw | Well, the questions are twofold, really: | 07:36 |
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| ijw | 1. what is the MTU that a virtual network could possibly have (which is calculable but not without some config variables to use, and the two that exist are largely pointless since they fix symptoms and not the cause) | 07:37 |
| ijw | 2. should the user be able to configure the MTU to their own liking? | 07:37 |
| ijw | And additionally to (1), the question of whether different networks can have different MTUs - which they can, it's common even now that the best performing tenant network MTU is smaller than the MTU on a provider network | 07:38 |
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| ijw | and the external network is likely in the same boat on that | 07:38 |
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| ijw | Oh, plus advertisement, which is probably something we should fix regardless so the MTU is properly advertised when it's known | 07:39 |
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| jschwarz | I think all the possible interfaces that could have their MTU changed (and with 2 cuncurrent networks at once) should be outlined and then it will be easier to make that decision | 07:40 |
| ijw | Um, which interfaces do you have in mind? | 07:41 |
| jschwarz | regarding advertisement, I think that's some big decision we might want to take to the ML if you decide it's inside the scope of your blueprint | 07:41 |
| ijw | Well, I think knowing the MTU is key to start | 07:41 |
| jschwarz | specifically the interfaces which deal with br-int, br-tun and br-ex (connection between different nodes, cross bridges MTUs...) | 07:41 |
| ijw | Whether MTU advertisement is then done by default or only when instructed is a decision that's not terribly useful till we get that far | 07:42 |
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| ijw | That is actually not so relevant | 07:42 |
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| ijw | Well, no - it's relevant, if a bit ovs-centric | 07:43 |
| jschwarz | yes :) | 07:43 |
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| ijw | But if you know the MTUs you're trying to pass you can make sensible choices there (though actually br-ex is not configured by openstack and therefore out of scope) | 07:43 |
| jschwarz | ijw, might be that br-ex is out of scope, though I do think that there are interfaces which the l3 agent sets up so those are inside the scope | 07:44 |
| ijw | with br-ex and physical network bridges I wonder if it would be better to state their MTU as configuration items in the network list | 07:44 |
| ijw | l3 agent, absolutely. And to be clear, the question I'm pondering is whether it makes sense to read or set the MTU on br-ex from Openstack. | 07:45 |
| ijw | (since Openstack doesn't create it and it may not be meaningful) | 07:45 |
| jschwarz | I think that specifiying the MTU of each and every network that exists on one setup is not all that better than what we have now in regards to confusion to the enduser | 07:45 |
| jschwarz | or rather to that administrator | 07:46 |
| ijw | The things we have settings for right now, particularly that veth setting, absolutely need to die. | 07:46 |
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| jschwarz | I think we should aim at "this network's wanted MTU is X, that network's wanted MTU is Y, now lets deal with it" | 07:46 |
| ijw | Um, the point was not that it's specified every time. It's that it *can* be specified, and when it isn't it's chosen automatically to be as big as it can be | 07:46 |
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| ijw | But you can't let a user choose an MTU without knowing the max MTU that will work. The assumption was that if the user didn't choose the MTU they would get the maximum (likely 1492 with GRE, for example) | 07:47 |
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| jschwarz | probably, but if X=1500 and Y=9000, shouldn't most outgoing interfaces (ie. br-ex related ones) be set to the maximum? | 07:47 |
| jschwarz | I agree | 07:47 |
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| ijw | br-ex is set to whatever it's set to, and internal networks need not be 9000 just because it is. The router will take care of the discrepancy | 07:47 |
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| jschwarz | so we might want to let each tenant determine the MTU of his network and have neutron make the decision on its own | 07:48 |
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| ijw | (assuming - and there is some debate there - it's a good idea to have networks with differing MTUs, but I think it is) | 07:48 |
| ijw | Well, the options would be: | 07:48 |
| jschwarz | it probably is good | 07:48 |
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| ijw | 1. we determine the maximum MTU that the network could have - say 1492 for a tenant, 1500 for the external, 9000 for a physical segment for a provider network - and in the absence of other information we set that MTU on the virtual network | 07:49 |
| ijw | 2. the user has an MTU in mind and requests it; the request is granted if it is less than the max MTU that the plugin has | 07:49 |
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| ijw | 3. we live in the dark as now with no idea what works and what doesn't, and rely on what seems to be out of spec behaviour to get a 1500 MTU on networks that probably shouldn't be passing those packets | 07:50 |
| ijw | That aside, there's the question of whether Openstack should advertise the MTU in any of the three ways that it has - DHCPv4, IPv6 RA, or config-drive | 07:50 |
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| ijw | (cloud-init won't work, it's too late at that point) | 07:51 |
| jschwarz | reading, sec | 07:51 |
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| jschwarz | I think the first option is the best | 07:53 |
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| jschwarz | it allows both the tenant and the admin to configure the MTU of a network and allows neutron to determine the MTU each device should be set to | 07:53 |
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| jschwarz | the second option seems very close to the first one in that the user(=tenant) will be able to request(=set his network's MTU) at will | 07:54 |
| jschwarz | regarding the advertisement, I think it's a must have to this spec - we already have the poor-man's ability to set some interface's MTUs, but that's pointless if these MTUs don't go across to the instances | 07:55 |
| jschwarz | we shouldn't force the tenant to set the MTU of his network, then go through some 'n' instances and set the corresponding MTU using some kind of separate mechanism | 07:56 |
| jschwarz | ijw, ^ :) | 07:56 |
| ijw | 1 and 2 aren't intended to be exclusive, really | 07:56 |
| ijw | You can do both, and I would prefer we allow that | 07:56 |
| jschwarz | then I don't understand what's the difference between 1 and 2 | 07:57 |
| jschwarz | :< | 07:57 |
| ijw | 1 assumes the user doesn't care. | 07:57 |
| ijw | 2 assumes that (with the same system) the user does actually care and wants a say | 07:57 |
| ijw | So in 1, the user says nothing and gets a free MTU. In 2, the user says something and gets an MTU that's what he wanted (or an explicit rejection) | 07:58 |
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| ijw | From there, we can add another option to advertise the MTU as set on the network, which is easy enough | 07:59 |
| jschwarz | how does this system work (how does the user request an MTU)? | 07:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: test https://review.openstack.org/135006 | 07:59 |
| jschwarz | (and does user != tenant ?) | 08:00 |
| ijw | You set the MTU property on a request. If the system can work with that MTU (i.e. it's smaller than the maximum it can use on that network) you're good; if it can't, it will completely reject the request to make a network, so at least you know. | 08:00 |
| ijw | And whatever you pass is set as that network's MTU; potentially advertised to VMs that start up on that network, and always set on routers and other openstack services that connect to the network | 08:01 |
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| ijw | Actually, the biggest question is what to do with what we have at the moment, where 1500 MTUs work but 1492 MTUs work efficiently | 08:01 |
| ijw | Any VM that ignores advertisements is kind of screwed if we unilaterally reduce the MTU to 1492 on all GRE platforms | 08:02 |
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| jschwarz | we can't preper for everything - some compromise is bound to happen | 08:02 |
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| ijw | Yeah, I want to understand the choices we're making | 08:03 |
| jschwarz | if that VM doesn't have the tech to read MTU from, say, DHCPv4, then we can't really help him | 08:03 |
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| ijw | Well, you say that but that VM runs just fine right now and by changing things we're actually making things worse | 08:03 |
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| jschwarz | point | 08:03 |
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| jschwarz | though surely deployers will know that this change gets in at one milestone and will know that it will effect tenants | 08:04 |
| jschwarz | right now some deployers aren't aware and that's worse ;-) | 08:04 |
| ijw | It still breaks backward compatibility, which is not generally a good thing | 08:04 |
| jschwarz | btw, another question which we must ask ourselves is how do we interact with Nova here? | 08:05 |
| ijw | Well, let me sleep on it and I'll do this in the morning now | 08:05 |
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| jschwarz | ie. nova has device-mtu option which is also configurable | 08:05 |
| jschwarz | and is static throughout that node (regardless of how many neutron networks there are on that node) | 08:05 |
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| jschwarz | maybe differentiating between networks, etc, won't fully work without a similiar mechanism in nova as well? | 08:06 |
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| jschwarz | ijw, can't wait to read your next revision! nn :) | 08:08 |
| ijw | Some of these things just need to be set excessively large. Some matter. | 08:08 |
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| ijw | And I may have burnt myself but the bread is really nice, so apparently it was worth it :) | 08:08 |
| jschwarz | XD better give me some | 08:08 |
| jschwarz | I'll give you my shipping address | 08:08 |
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| SamYaple | Hey guys. Is there any neutron builtin that will adjust the source filter to allow for forwarding packets from a different ip address in neutron? | 08:27 |
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| SamYaple | Specifically, I reference the chain I want vs the chain I have | 08:29 |
| SamYaple | http://paste.openstack.org/show/137990/ | 08:29 |
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| SamYaple | Sorry, had a typo. View this paste please, ignore the previous one. http://paste.openstack.org/show/137991/ | 08:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Add UniqueConstaint for name and tenant_id in security group https://review.openstack.org/135006 | 08:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/136975 | 08:40 |
| SamYaple | Ah nevermind guys. I got it working. I had a syntax error in my port-update command | 08:40 |
| SamYaple | Chain is working as desired | 08:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Robin Wang proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-Agent crashes when OVS dead https://review.openstack.org/136991 | 08:58 |
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| trinaths | Got a doubt , I have launched a VM in Juno release with SR-IOV support enabled. I have assigned 5 different networks for VM. Only 2 network got the IP address rest all did not get the IP though the MAC address is assigned. Am I missing any thing? | 09:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for VMware NSX plugin log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136105 | 09:15 |
| garyk | who is looking for something to do? | 09:15 |
| garyk | 15 minutes of your time will help neutron :) | 09:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Bob Melander proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Cisco plugins and cfg agent log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136743 | 09:16 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for BigSwitch plugin log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136623 | 09:16 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Brocade plugin log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136994 | 09:17 |
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| garyk | amotoki: you around? | 09:21 |
| jschwarz | garyk, 15 minutes on what? | 09:21 |
| garyk | jschwarz: the translations for the plugins | 09:21 |
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| jschwarz | review? | 09:21 |
| garyk | no, the actual work :) | 09:22 |
| garyk | see https://review.openstack.org/136994 as an example | 09:22 |
| garyk | if you want you can do one of the plugins. it is pretty simple - just add the plugin name to checks.py and run tox -e pep8 | 09:22 |
| garyk | boom it is done | 09:22 |
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| garyk | i am going to do the embrane one now | 09:23 |
| jschwarz | garyk, would do if I weren't on part time :( won't have time to follow up and it will be lost :( | 09:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Add functional test to the metadata proxy https://review.openstack.org/136511 | 09:24 |
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| garyk | jschwarz: np. go and study | 09:24 |
| jschwarz | garyk, soon :) | 09:24 |
| jschwarz | ZZelle, ping | 09:24 |
| garyk | now! | 09:24 |
| ZZelle | jschwarz, hi | 09:24 |
| jschwarz | ZZelle, hope I wasn't too harsh on that patch's review | 09:25 |
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| ZZelle | jschwarz, nope | 09:25 |
| jschwarz | ZZelle, good. WIll have another look at it now :) | 09:25 |
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| ZZelle | jschwarz, i was just wondering how i should code simple_http (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136511/5/neutron/tests/functional/agent/linux/simple_http.py) | 09:26 |
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| ZZelle | jschwarz, was asking myself if the script should returns a pickle version of requests response and delegate all checks to the test | 09:27 |
| jschwarz | ZZelle, sounds about right. why pickle, though? can't you just print out the json data? | 09:27 |
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| ZZelle | jschwarz, the idea is to support body/headers/status-code check | 09:28 |
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| flwang1 | ihrachyshka: ping | 09:29 |
| ihrachyshka | flwang1: pong | 09:29 |
| flwang1 | ihrachyshka: may I get your bless on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131631/ ? | 09:30 |
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| jschwarz | ZZelle, I don't follow | 09:32 |
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| ZZelle | jschwarz, i am fully satisfied by the fact that the script performs some tests (status code) and the test method remaining one (body) | 09:34 |
| ZZelle | jschwarz, i am NOT ... | 09:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Robin Wang proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-Agent crashes when OVS dead https://review.openstack.org/136991 | 09:34 |
| jschwarz | ZZelle, why not? | 09:36 |
| jschwarz | ZZelle, The alternative is having the script printout some pickel/json/string which holds both the data (json) and the return value, and then parse it | 09:37 |
| jschwarz | the current solution of having the script returncode != 0 will signify a specific error which your code should know how to treat, else the jsoned data is returned | 09:37 |
| jschwarz | I think this option is better than the alternative :) | 09:37 |
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| jschwarz | ZZelle, ^ | 09:37 |
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| ZZelle | jschwarz, ok | 09:38 |
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| flwang1 | ihrachyshka: thank you! | 09:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Embrane plugin https://review.openstack.org/136996 | 09:48 |
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| garyk | ZZelle: you want to help with some of the plugin conversions - we are about 50% done | 09:48 |
| ZZelle | garyk, hi | 09:49 |
| ZZelle | garyk, which ones are remaining? | 09:50 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for BigSwitch plugin log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136623 | 09:50 |
| garyk | ZZelle: hyperv | 09:50 |
| ZZelle | garyk, will do | 09:50 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Brocade plugin log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136994 | 09:51 |
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| garyk | ZZelle: we also have midonet nec nuage ofagent oneconvergence opencontrail plumgrid ryu sriovnicagent | 09:52 |
| garyk | maybe amotoki can do nec | 09:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Embrane plugin https://review.openstack.org/136996 | 09:53 |
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| garyk | i will do midonet | 09:53 |
| ZZelle | garyk, plumgrid could we drop it? | 09:53 |
| ZZelle | garyk, will do sriovnicagent | 09:54 |
| garyk | ZZelle: i do not think that we can drop anything | 09:54 |
| garyk | ZZelle: thanks! | 09:54 |
| ZZelle | garyk, it was a joke | 09:54 |
| garyk | nati_ueno: can you do the translations for opencontrail you can base on https://review.openstack.org/136996 | 09:54 |
| garyk | ZZelle: :) | 09:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Add functional test to the metadata proxy https://review.openstack.org/136511 | 09:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Allow to request metadata proxy only from internal interfaces https://review.openstack.org/133506 | 09:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not run neutron-ns-metadata-proxy as root on L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/136840 | 09:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Allow IptablesManager to manage mangle table https://review.openstack.org/135203 | 10:01 |
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| nati_ueno | garyk: sure! Thanks | 10:07 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for BigSwitch plugin log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136623 | 10:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Brocade plugin log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136994 | 10:08 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Embrane plugin https://review.openstack.org/136996 | 10:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Rewrite test_create_agent https://review.openstack.org/137003 | 10:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Berezovsky Irena proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Mellanox plugin and agent log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136631 | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Midonet plugin https://review.openstack.org/137012 | 10:30 |
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| garyk | nati_ueno: can you also please do for the metaplugin (i recall that you wrote that) | 10:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add rootwrap-daemon-mode blueprint https://review.openstack.org/93889 | 10:40 |
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| ihrachyshka | mestery: hey. I wonder whether there are any objections against setting me as stable liaison for neutron: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Stable_Branch (I suspect not really, but who knows) | 10:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shivakumar M proposed openstack/neutron: DHCP Service LoadBalancing Scheduler https://review.openstack.org/137017 | 10:53 |
| john-davidge | nati_ueno: Hello, do you have a moment to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130175/ ? | 10:54 |
| john-davidge | nati_ueno: I was wondering if you might consider changing your -1 to a +0? | 10:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Add functional test to the metadata proxy https://review.openstack.org/136511 | 11:05 |
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| raorn | salv-orlando: about fixed-ip-version blueprint - it will be discussed on today's ipv6 irc meeting | 11:21 |
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| sergsh | SridharG, ping | 11:42 |
| SridharG | sergsh: Hello | 11:42 |
| sergsh | SridharG, hi, about your last patches to resolve IPv6 allocating address - is it planned to backport them to Juno? | 11:43 |
| SridharG | sergsh: yes, ideally they should be backported to Juno. | 11:44 |
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| sergsh | SridharG, ok, thanks | 11:44 |
| SridharG | sergsh: np. you're welcome. | 11:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not run neutron-ns-metadata-proxy as root on L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/136840 | 12:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not run neutron-ns-metadata-proxy as root on L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/136840 | 12:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Add functional test to the metadata proxy https://review.openstack.org/136511 | 12:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not run neutron-ns-metadata-proxy as root on L3 agent https://review.openstack.org/136840 | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Add an "IPv6 Impact" section to the template https://review.openstack.org/136823 | 12:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Nuage and SRIOV NIC AGENT https://review.openstack.org/137040 | 12:47 |
| amuller | ZZelle: reviewing the metadata test patch, I think it's really cool | 12:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Berezovsky Irena proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Mellanox plugin and agent log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136631 | 12:48 |
| ZZelle | amuller, great :) | 12:49 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, should i add a specific tests where enable_ha=True? | 12:49 |
| amuller | no need | 12:49 |
| amuller | the HA router test checks that the proxy is up | 12:49 |
| amuller | there's no difference otherwise | 12:50 |
| amuller | same proxy | 12:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Migrate to oslo.middleware https://review.openstack.org/134290 | 12:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Migrate to oslo.utils https://review.openstack.org/127257 | 12:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Synced processutils and periodic_task modules https://review.openstack.org/137042 | 12:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Migrate to oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/137043 | 12:50 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, oki | 12:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Enforce log hints in neutron.plugins.hyperv https://review.openstack.org/137045 | 12:59 |
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| mflobo | question for neutron developers. When you talk about layers (L2, L3, etc), Are you talking about the ISO Layers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model)? | 13:14 |
| amuller | mflobo: Correct | 13:14 |
| mflobo | ok, you are implementing the 7 different layers in neutron, is it? | 13:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Robin Wang proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-Agent crashes when OVS dead https://review.openstack.org/136991 | 13:21 |
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| beagles | amotoki: I see you backported a patch that had to do with policy load order (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1254555) | 13:28 |
| beagles | amotoki: we were still seeing this "in the wild" on systems that were under heavy load (lots of concurrent agent reports) when restarting the neutron server | 13:29 |
| beagles | amotoki: I took a patch that was submitted by Vincent Untz and following his analysis found that resetting the policies was happening a little too early, so I revised his change and posted a patch for review here: | 13:30 |
| beagles | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127633/ | 13:31 |
| beagles | amotoki: where you have already thought about this problem, I figured your feedback is pretty relevant here | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Enforce log hints in neutron.plugins.sriovnicagent https://review.openstack.org/137059 | 13:32 |
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| beagles | amuller, ajo, if you could have a look too that would be great ^^^^ | 13:32 |
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| beagles | garyk: if you have a sec I'd like to pick your brain about possible tests for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127633/ as well | 13:33 |
| ajo | beagles, reading | 13:33 |
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| beagles | ajo: there is a lot of discussion in the review comments as well... | 13:34 |
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| ajo | beagles, ahh, I remember the problem | 13:37 |
| ajo | jumping into review, | 13:37 |
| beagles | ajo: I warn you, there is a TON of code to read ;) | 13:37 |
| ajo | lol | 13:37 |
| ajo | XD | 13:37 |
| ajo | I love small changes, easy to review :D | 13:37 |
| ajo | (most of the time) | 13:38 |
| beagles | there ought to be an award for the longest analysis resulting in the smallest change | 13:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Berezovsky Irena proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Mellanox plugin and agent log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136631 | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Enforce log hints in neutron.plugins.plumgrid https://review.openstack.org/137065 | 13:45 |
| garyk | beagles: can we talk later - i am stuck in the middle of something. sorry. i also need to pick your brain about the nova neutron refactor | 13:45 |
| beagles | garyk: cool, thanks! | 13:45 |
| ZZelle | garyk, hyperv, sriovnicagent and plumgrid done | 13:46 |
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| garyk | ZZelle: tnanks! i did the sriov - will abandon that one | 13:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Migrate to oslo.middleware https://review.openstack.org/134290 | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Migrate to oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/137043 | 13:56 |
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| otherwiseguy | yamahata: did you and ianw reach agreement on a way forward on the nfv no address/ml2 ovs port security blueprint overlap? | 14:00 |
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| yamahata | otherwiseguy: So far I haven't received fro ianw. But I have agreed with other Cisco people. | 14:01 |
| yamahata | otherwiseguy: So I think they, Cisco, can internally arrange it. | 14:01 |
| otherwiseguy | yamahata: I've recently been looking over the specs/patches and have been tasked by my manager to help out any way I can. So I just wanted to make sure I focused energy in the right places. :) | 14:02 |
| yamahata | otherwiseguy: Cool. I'll update spec in several days. Then you can take/help tasks in spec. | 14:03 |
| otherwiseguy | yamahata: Thanks. I'll watch for the update. | 14:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add Kilo priorities for Neutron https://review.openstack.org/136514 | 14:15 |
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| amotoki | garyk: I can do i18n log updates for nec plugin.. thanks for your work. I thought you will make all :-) | 14:19 |
| -amotoki- forgot to log out the channel before going dinner | 14:20 | |
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| garyk | amotoki: if you could do that it would be brilliant! | 14:25 |
| garyk | i was hoping that you would | 14:25 |
| amotoki | garyk: sure. IIRC I had done half. | 14:26 |
| garyk | :) | 14:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Migrate to oslo.middleware https://review.openstack.org/134290 | 14:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Migrate to oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/137043 | 14:51 |
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| sc68cal | ChuckC: I'll take a look | 15:00 |
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| obondarev | markmcclain, jlibosva: ping | 15:01 |
| markmcclain | obondarev: pong | 15:01 |
| markmcclain | obondarev: want to chat in #novamigration? | 15:02 |
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| obondarev | markmcclain: yeah, let's move there | 15:02 |
| belmoreira | hi, sorry I'm late | 15:02 |
| obondarev | belmoreira: we're in #novamigration | 15:03 |
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| markmcclain | ihrachyshka: thanks for posting the migration to oslo.i18n | 15:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chuck Carlino proposed openstack/neutron: Allow port mac_address to be modified https://review.openstack.org/112129 | 15:06 |
| ChuckC | sc68cal: thanks, I just posted a ipv6 test for that a moment ago | 15:06 |
| ihrachyshka | markmcclain: it's currently blocked by oslo.middleware migration, and the latter is blocked by a patch missing in oslo-incubator (in review). so for migration, cores can check oslo.utils only for now | 15:07 |
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| ihrachyshka | markmcclain: I would be glad if cores sync on reviewing those migration patches since they are quite huge and rot quite quickly due to new patches merging. | 15:08 |
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| markmcclain | ihrachyshka: right… I work on that part | 15:09 |
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| xuhanp | salv-orlando, ping | 15:12 |
| salv-orlando | hello xuhanp | 15:12 |
| xuhanp | salv-orlando, can you help check my spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129118/ again? | 15:12 |
| xuhanp | I once got your +2 to it but it got flushed by addressing other -1 comments :-) | 15:12 |
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| salv-orlando | xuhanp: it sounds like you and baoli agreed on an implementation where validation is done by the backend (eg: dnsmasq?) | 15:16 |
| xuhanp | salv-orlando, that's right. | 15:16 |
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| salv-orlando | so if tomorrow we support isc dhcp in theory an api request which works against a backend with dnsmasq might fail against a backend with isc dhcp. To make this portable you’ll need also to expose which dhcp driver is running in the backend. | 15:17 |
| salv-orlando | On the other hand, I always thought there was a set of standard dhcp options every dhcp server must provide | 15:17 |
| salv-orlando | is there such set? | 15:17 |
| akamyshnikova | rkukura, hi! I saw that this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1367391 is assigned to you since September but there is no any activity. Are you working on this or may be I can take it? | 15:18 |
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| xuhanp | salv-orlando, we thought about that too. But it seems like the option names are not included in dhcp RFCs. | 15:19 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando: well, there are multiple RFCs, and each server define what they implement... | 15:19 |
| xuhanp | only the DHCP option numbers. | 15:19 |
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| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: yes, and neutron can define its own set of supported RFCs to ensure the API for dhcp options is portable. xuhanp, I need to be convince that this kind of validation as you’re proposing is doable even if potentially breaks API portability. | 15:21 |
| salv-orlando | neverthless, I would like to see this spec approved. | 15:21 |
| xuhanp | salv-orlando, thanks a lot! I can proposed some code for the validation soon so we can discuss in the code review? | 15:22 |
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| salv-orlando | xuhanp: if you think this could be an answer to my api portability concern, that would be great | 15:23 |
| ChuckC | sc68cal: oops, the ipv6 test was in the code review, of course: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112129/ | 15:25 |
| xuhanp | salv-orlando, my initial plan is to add the validation to dnsmasq implementation based on what dnsmasq defines. And add mappings if needed when a new driver is added | 15:25 |
| xuhanp | salv-orlando, and I can write code based on this plan. Does this sound good to you? | 15:26 |
| salv-orlando | xuhanp: I think I understand it… so each driver will define its own validation rules according to the RFC it supports. | 15:26 |
| ChuckC | garyk: can you take another look at the mac address update spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129085 | 15:26 |
| xuhanp | salv-orlando, exactly | 15:26 |
| salv-orlando | xuhanp: I got it… what I failed to explain is that I don’t like this ;) | 15:27 |
| salv-orlando | because it will affect API portability. | 15:27 |
| garyk | ChuckC: sure, give me a few minutes and i will take a look | 15:27 |
| xuhanp | salv-orlando, understood. But I don't see a better approach here. | 15:27 |
| ChuckC | garyk: thanks! | 15:27 |
| salv-orlando | but probably you have a requirement to make the driver specify the supported options and not just define a set of RFCs we want neutron to support (and then choose drivers which support those) | 15:28 |
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| xuhanp | salv-orlando, yep. Dnsmasq can do that. But not sure about other drivers. Since we don't have them yet. | 15:29 |
| salv-orlando | xuhanp: so you are speculating on the ability of future drivers to provide a list of supported options by ip version? | 15:30 |
| salv-orlando | I honestly think the world won’t break if we choose a few RFC we now both dnsmasq and ISC at least implement | 15:30 |
| salv-orlando | and validate exclusively on the options mandated by those RFCs | 15:31 |
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| salv-orlando | probably we won’t support all Dnsmasq options, but I would forgive missing some corner use case if that favour API portability | 15:31 |
| salv-orlando | on the other hand, if portability is not a conern, just ignore what I’m saying! | 15:32 |
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| xuhanp | salv-orlando, that sounds like a plan to me. Do you think I should include that in the spec? | 15:32 |
| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: hi | 15:33 |
| salv-orlando | xuhanp: if you want, yes… but don’t spend too much time on details! From the spec we only need to understand where the validation occurs and how. We can decide the actual list of RFCs later on | 15:34 |
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| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: A discussed at the summit, here’s the spec for the OVS agent porting to Hyper-V: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136936/ | 15:35 |
| salv-orlando | and also we can add/remove RFCs rin a relatively simple way | 15:35 |
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| xuhanp | salv-orlando, sounds great! | 15:35 |
| salv-orlando | alexpilotti: yep, saw that. I’m holding on a bit on it while 1) we understand what is going to happen with the plugin split and if/how this will affect agents as well and 2) the spec for the l2 “technical debt repayment” activities is pushed. That will allow us to understand how your spec will get into the way of that activity. | 15:37 |
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| salv-orlando | I’d say #1 is probably not a problem | 15:37 |
| salv-orlando | but I’m actually waiting for #2 first. I’m holding not only yours but all l2 agent specs. | 15:37 |
| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: ok tx | 15:38 |
| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: about the plugin split, since it involves out Hyper-V plugin / agent | 15:38 |
| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: is there a planned ETA? | 15:38 |
| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: with our Hyper-V plugin / agent I mean the regular one not the OVS port | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Xu Han Peng proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for IBM plugin log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136955 | 15:41 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: hi, I'm hoping the mac address update spec is already on your radar? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129085 | 15:42 |
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| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: I did see your update yesterday. I haven’t looked it over yet. | 15:43 |
| salv-orlando | alexpilotti: first spec #134680 has to be approved. Once that happens we’ll set deadlines | 15:43 |
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| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: tx! | 15:49 |
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| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: ok, with drivers needing to approve, I wasn't sure whether to bug you about it or not | 15:49 |
| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: added a comment. My main concert is only about where to move our plugin | 15:49 |
| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: I understand that you just want this stuff out of Neutron, but where it lands has some importance for the vendors | 15:49 |
| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: wouldn’t it be possible to move the plugins / agents already part of Neutron to some small core projects? | 15:50 |
| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: like https://github.com/openstack/neutron-hyper-v, just as an idea | 15:50 |
| alexpilotti | salv-orlando: the issue is that stackforge lakcs the “credibility” of core for the public and this will create an adoption barrier between different plugins / agents | 15:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/neutron: Remove Python 2.6 classifier https://review.openstack.org/137118 | 15:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/neutron: Remove Python 2.6 classifier https://review.openstack.org/137118 | 15:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Migrate to oslo.middleware https://review.openstack.org/134290 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Migrate to oslo.utils https://review.openstack.org/127257 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Synced processutils and periodic_task modules https://review.openstack.org/137042 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Migrate to oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/137043 | 16:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: ping | 16:08 |
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| boris-42 | mestery: hi | 16:11 |
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| mestery | boris-42: Yo! | 16:13 |
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| boris-42 | mestery: I am trying to refactor a bit rally jobs | 16:18 |
| mestery | boris-42: Ack, I've seen the patches | 16:18 |
| boris-42 | mestery: so I am renaming rally-scenarios to rally-jobs | 16:18 |
| boris-42 | mestery: ah good+) | 16:18 |
| mestery | Makes sense | 16:18 |
| boris-42 | mestery: cause rally-scenarios is quite misleading | 16:18 |
| mestery | exactly | 16:18 |
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| boris-42 | mestery: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136790/ so here is the patch can we get it in?) | 16:19 |
| * mestery looks | 16:19 | |
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| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: ping | 16:28 |
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| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: pong | 16:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: I was looking at the IPv6 impact section here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129085/4..7/specs/kilo/mac_addr_update.rst | 16:31 |
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| carl_baldwin | I wonder if dnsmasq currently serves AAAA requests with the ipv6 addresses. Was just about to go look at code. | 16:32 |
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| boris-42 | mestery: thank you | 16:32 |
| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: I.... think it does in most cases | 16:32 |
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| mestery | boris-42: yw | 16:33 |
| sc68cal | since we do insert records in the hosts file that dnsmasq monitors | 16:33 |
| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: I thought so too. | 16:33 |
| sc68cal | it | 16:33 |
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| sc68cal | is tricky though because sometimes dnsmasq gets screwed up if you put something in the hosts file it doesn't like | 16:33 |
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| sc68cal | trying to remember the bug | 16:34 |
| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: So, I’m wondering if it is okay to leave updating DNS out of scope for this blueprint when it enables changing the mac and therefore the SLAAC address. | 16:34 |
| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: I think so - but hang on for a second, there is a super relevant and kind of important review around dnsmasq and host entires for v6 | 16:36 |
| sc68cal | that i'm trying to find | 16:36 |
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| sc68cal | found it - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1280302 | 16:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: It is untriaged. Do you want me to mark it with a particular Importance? | 16:39 |
| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: probably "Low"? | 16:39 |
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| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: You sure? You did say “kind of important” :) | 16:40 |
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| sc68cal | ok - "Medium"? | 16:40 |
| sc68cal | I'll have to ping enikanorov about it- he's marked as the owner | 16:41 |
| carl_baldwin | If you do, I’ll let him triage. | 16:41 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: pong | 16:42 |
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| sc68cal | ok - it just popped in my brain because I know that it's related to resolving hosts | 16:42 |
| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: read conversation with sc68cal ^ | 16:42 |
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| aveiga | sc68cal: you're correct. WIthout he brackets, you won't have a DNS entry for the host | 16:42 |
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| aveiga | i.e. no AAAA record | 16:43 |
| aveiga | although I think that bug report also contains info that should be split. It states that there's no route being advertised, but that's intentional at this point | 16:43 |
| sc68cal | aveiga: agree | 16:43 |
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| sc68cal | He's also using ... 2013.2.1 ... Icehouse? | 16:44 |
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| sc68cal | so yeah no route will be advertised | 16:44 |
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| amuller | carl_baldwin: armax: I don't have access to the Hangout link Swami provided | 16:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: Let me look... | 16:58 |
| amuller | something to do with my redhat account and google integration is weird | 16:58 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: can you add assafmuller@gmail.com? | 16:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: I will try. | 16:59 |
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| marun | ianw: ping re: trunking / vlan aware vm specs | 17:29 |
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| ganso | Hi guys! quick question I cannot find the answer anywhere, how can I connect 2 tenant networks? Example: I have net1 and net2 connected to router1, but instance1 (on net1) cannot ping instance2 (on net2) | 17:34 |
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| sc68cal | ganso: are the IPs for each tenant subnets overlapping | 17:45 |
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| ganso | no | 17:47 |
| ganso | net1 is GRE, net2 is FLAT, is this the problem? | 17:48 |
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| yapeng | hi, I have a question, what is current policy to submit a third party neutron plugin? | 18:28 |
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| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: sc68cal: sorry I needed to step away for a while. Looks like I need to mention AAAA records in the spec, and maybe reference the bug. | 18:35 |
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| carl_baldwin | ChuckC: I don’t think the bug needs mentioning. | 18:35 |
| carl_baldwin | I think that was an aside. | 18:35 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: ok | 18:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for Cisco plugins and cfg agent log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136743 | 18:36 |
| carl_baldwin | However, I was concerned that updating DNS is “out of scope”. We can discuss later. | 18:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce External IPAM Interface https://review.openstack.org/134339 | 18:37 |
| carl_baldwin | tellesnobrega: ping | 18:39 |
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| carl_baldwin | tellesnobrega: I wanted to follow up on the problem you were seeing the other day. I thought you had said you found a solution. If so, I’m curious to know what that solution was. | 18:41 |
| HenryG | oooooo, just encountered the new fancy output from tox. Nice. | 18:41 |
| amuller | HenryG: new tox version? | 18:42 |
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| HenryG | amuller: no, https://review.openstack.org/136122 | 18:43 |
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| amuller | hmm sounds cool | 18:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron-specs: IPv6 Subteam Priorities for the Kilo cycle https://review.openstack.org/137169 | 18:43 |
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| tellesnobrega | carl_baldwin, pong | 18:45 |
| tellesnobrega | so the solution was to reduce MTU of the br-ex interface | 18:46 |
| tellesnobrega | as simple as that | 18:46 |
| tellesnobrega | lowering to 1300 did the trick | 18:46 |
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| amuller | HenryG: My life is so much better now =D | 18:47 |
| mestery | HenryG amuller: The new tox stuff is awesome indeed, thanks russellb! | 18:47 |
| amuller | russellb++ | 18:47 |
| russellb | you're welcome :) | 18:48 |
| carl_baldwin | tellesnobrega: Thanks. | 18:48 |
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| russellb | i like to see progress! | 18:48 |
| tellesnobrega | carl_baldwin, no problem | 18:49 |
| russellb | the other thing that has been bugging me with unit tests is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137161/ | 18:49 |
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| tellesnobrega | maybe this was my setup problem | 18:49 |
| HenryG | Next time my manager wants to see progress I will show him some tox output. | 18:49 |
| russellb | HenryG: looks like you're working harder with all of that output | 18:49 |
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| tellesnobrega | carl_baldwin, but it may be a good thing to have documented somewhere in case more people run into the same problem | 18:50 |
| carl_baldwin | tellesnobrega: ack | 18:50 |
| tellesnobrega | carl_baldwin, so they wont spend as much time as I did looking through stuff and trying to "guess" the solution. All i found was to reduce eth0 mtu, the idea to reduce br-ex came from a desperate attempt to go home | 18:51 |
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| GLaupre | Hello, a small questions: what is the command in neutron to see the tunnel_id? I don't find it | 18:54 |
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| amuller | GLaupre: do you know the network you're interested in? | 18:55 |
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| amuller | GLaupre: if so, net-show <net_id> | 18:55 |
| GLaupre | yes | 18:55 |
| amuller | it shows up as segmentation ID | 18:55 |
| mestery | HenryG russellb: lol | 18:55 |
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| otherwiseguy | ijw: have you looked over yamahata's ml2-ovs-port-security blueprint that overlaps with your nfv-no-address stuff? | 18:57 |
| otherwiseguy | I noticed that both specs have -2 for potential merging. | 18:58 |
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| ijw | otherwiseguy: not recently, though (a) I wasn't a fan and (b) if it doesn't work with Linux bridge it's no use for NFV purposes - OVS's driver won't pass VLAN tagged packets, which is the other thing you need for NFV stuff | 18:58 |
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| otherwiseguy | ijw: I'm currently trying to wrap my head around both proposals. | 19:00 |
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| ijw | otherwiseguy: mine kind of lost its purity. | 19:00 |
| ijw | I would actually be perfectly happy with 'turn off all security group and spoofing' | 19:00 |
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| ijw | And that, I think, is drastic enough that it doesn't actually conflict with the other spec | 19:00 |
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| amuller | ijw: Uh huh, you're online! I left some comments on your vlan trunking spec | 19:01 |
| sgordon_ | oh | 19:01 |
| ijw | amuller: Ooh, ta | 19:01 |
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| sgordon_ | i was about to ping ijw to ask about exactly that lol | 19:01 |
| ijw | I may take that back if they don't say 'my god, it's like poetry, I shall approve it forthwith' | 19:02 |
| ijw | MTU's in my editor at the moment, it's taking some work | 19:02 |
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| mestery | ijw: What's the OVS VLAN tagging issue again? Guest VMs which pass a packet with a VLAN tag end up dropped? | 19:02 |
| ijw | Anyway, I have to run to a meeting now, but I'll do it when I'm done | 19:02 |
| mestery | ijw: :P | 19:03 |
| ijw | mestery: yup | 19:03 |
| mestery | ijw: Ack, thanks. Enjoy your meeting ;) | 19:03 |
| ijw | And it's easier to just use LB rather than fix it, tbh | 19:03 |
| ijw | (be nice if we just switched the gate to using the LB driver, ta ;) | 19:03 |
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| sgordon_ | mestery, basically when OVS removes its tags it also takes with it any other tags that were added externally | 19:09 |
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| mestery | sgordon_: Seems as if we should fix that in OVS ;) | 19:09 |
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| amuller | mestery: ijw: 80% of production deployments use the OVS agent according to the latest user survey | 19:12 |
| amuller | just saying: We'll only do it for LB is unfortunate | 19:12 |
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| mestery | amuller: ++ | 19:13 |
| mestery | amuller: If it's an issue with OVS, we should get folks to address it there seems to me. | 19:13 |
| mestery | OVS is a great community to work with, shouldn't be a problem. | 19:13 |
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| ijw | What was that? | 19:14 |
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| ijw | The VLAN trunking? | 19:14 |
| amuller | ijw: 80% of production deployments use the OVS agent according to the latest user survey, just saying: We'll only do it for LB is unfortunate | 19:14 |
| ijw | amuller: granted that they do, but this is a specific requirement for NFV, so it doesn't affect a lot of those deployments. | 19:15 |
| amuller | But there's decent momentum behind this effort, we could probably get some OVS guys to prioritize this | 19:15 |
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| amuller | There's barely any development effort going into the LB agent | 19:15 |
| ijw | It's not an OVS problem - the problem is the way the OVS driver elects to use OVS (by tagging ports). If we get to driving it with flows then the problem will be fixable. | 19:16 |
| amuller | We really want this in OVS for the long haul | 19:16 |
| obondarev | carl_baldwin: ping | 19:16 |
| ijw | amuller: OPNFV is driving for external controllers. | 19:16 |
| ijw | I know LB doesn't see much love (though Rackspace now use LB so it may change) but in practice it does just work. | 19:16 |
| obondarev | carl_baldwin: if have time please take a look at this regression fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134432/ | 19:16 |
| ijw | amuller: but still, the point is that if you want to fix OVS or the OVS driver for VLAN transparent networks, then you're welcome to do that. I will consider that spec complete when OVS reports what it's doing correctly, though. | 19:17 |
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| ijw | The spec is about (a) getting things to say what they do (and the MTU one will be the same in that respect) and (b) giving them an option to do something different. (b) is an option, it's not a mandatory requirement | 19:18 |
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| harlowja | qq, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135903/ should fix a bunch of icehouse merge issues that are happening right? alot of 'There are one or more ports still in use on the network' happening on various oslo projects icehouse tests and such; i just want to verify since it seems to be stopping alot of reviews | 19:19 |
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| amuller | ijw: Well, TBH I'm 2 steps behind. I'll try to find the mailing list post you talked about to see what different use cases your spec and Eric's spec cover | 19:19 |
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| amuller | But introducing two new APIs for vlan trunking seems insane to me, either way | 19:20 |
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| jschwarz | marun, ping | 19:20 |
| ijw | amuller: Yes, and that's why you need to catch up on that conversation - because that's what everyone said previously, and why they stalled, and it's we had a meeting at the summit and that list conversation to explain that they address different use cases. Please don't jump in on the discussion with that mindset, not until you've read the background. | 19:21 |
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| ijw | Specifically, VLAN ports do not solve the problem with two VMs that are programmed to talk to each other over VLANs, which is used in NFV | 19:22 |
| sgordon_ | <ijw> It's not an OVS problem - the problem is the way the OVS driver elects to use OVS (by tagging ports). If we get to driving it with flows then the problem will be fixable. < +1 | 19:22 |
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| amuller | ijw: My motives are to get the code merged, I wouldn't worry about me pushing your efforts back | 19:22 |
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| amuller | We just need to find a good API | 19:22 |
| amuller | anyway I'll go through the thread | 19:23 |
| ijw | amuller: well, if you've read my VLAN spec you'll see that the API is intentionally trivial and leaves it to the controller to choose whether it offers the feature or not. | 19:23 |
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| amuller | Right | 19:24 |
| ijw | amuller: in the hope that a simple API will see little resistance (though yes, I would agree that it shouldn't be accepted if it did basically duplicate another) | 19:24 |
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| jamielennox | hi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135903/ just failed with 'ovs-vsctl: no row "tapb71f89b7-32" in table Port\n' | 19:38 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for VMware NSX plugin log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136105 | 19:38 |
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| jamielennox | i can see an expired bug, but not one that's open | 19:39 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack/neutron: Update i18n translation for BigSwitch plugin log msg's https://review.openstack.org/136623 | 19:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Add Kilo priorities for Neutron https://review.openstack.org/136514 | 20:27 |
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| radez | hey guys I'm running RDO juno with DVR, when I launch a second instance on a tenant network the nat rules show up breifly then disappear. | 20:43 |
| radez | subsequent instances don't do this. | 20:43 |
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| radez | if I do a hard reboot then it works fine | 20:44 |
| radez | any ideas to help me debug this? | 20:44 |
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| radez | ajo: any familiarity with something like this? ^^ | 20:49 |
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| ajo | 568842 | 20:49 |
| ajo | my daughter seems to like the yubikey light ;) | 20:49 |
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| rook | :D | 20:49 |
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| ajo | radez, 0 experience with DVR | 20:49 |
| ajo | you're a pioneer | 20:50 |
| radez | ajo: lol... crap | 20:50 |
| ajo | radez, may be it's good to get the agent logs | 20:50 |
| ajo | (openvswitch-agent) | 20:50 |
| ajo | with debug | 20:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Chuck Carlino proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Allow updating VM port's mac_address https://review.openstack.org/129085 | 20:50 |
| radez | I've been looking through logs on the compute node from the the agents there | 20:50 |
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| ajo | in a bug | 20:50 |
| radez | I probably need to jump in debug mode... | 20:51 |
| ajo | yepp | 20:51 |
| ajo | SumitNaiksatam ^ | 20:51 |
| ajo | you were involved in DVR or am I mixing up things? | 20:51 |
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| manishg | kevinbenton, gus: the 'name' in tasks should be unique within a flow (I think; harlowja could confirm). The task needs to have a name so it can be monitored, resumed, etc. (even outside the context of current process, machine, etc.). gus, will look at the patch. | 21:01 |
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| harlowja | manishg yes, currently, we can relax that if need-be, but it invovles a little more working on the scope resolution layers and such | 21:02 |
| harlowja | to make it only unique with the current 'scope' (in a way) | 21:02 |
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| mestery | ajo: For DVR, you want armax or carl_baldwin. | 21:13 |
| ajo | thanks mestery :) | 21:13 |
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| ajo | radez ^ | 21:13 |
| radez | thx mestery, ajo | 21:14 |
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| manishg | harlowja: thanks. I don't think there is any particular need to relax that. Question was about how it's used, etc. thanks for the clarification. | 21:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Saksham Varma proposed openstack/neutron: Tenants shouldn't access unshared network profiles https://review.openstack.org/119236 | 21:52 |
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| harlowja | manishg up to u guys, if needed twiddling can commence! | 21:53 |
| harlowja | ha | 21:53 |
| jamielennox | does anyone know what would be causing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1396356 | 21:53 |
| harlowja | *scope twiddiling, lol | 21:53 |
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| jamielennox | it's blocking neutron stable patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135903/ which means every python-*client that tests with neutron (all of them) can't pass gate | 21:54 |
| harlowja | +2 to that, been blocking oslo libraries to | 21:54 |
| jamielennox | i've been rechecking for about two days | 21:54 |
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| jamielennox | the infra team fixed the thing with NOT_REGISTERED, now it's hitting this new bug which i can't find reference to elsewhere | 21:55 |
| harlowja | a new one, damn? | 21:55 |
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| harlowja | a new one? damn | 21:55 |
| harlowja | lol | 21:55 |
| jamielennox | (though neutron has ~800 open bugs so i didn't look that hard) | 21:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Split services out of Neutron repo https://review.openstack.org/136835 | 21:55 |
| harlowja | ya, jamielennox https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136983/ and such are all hitting it to afaik | 21:56 |
| harlowja | jamielennox i did put up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136657/ but that doesn't solve it (just classifies it) | 21:56 |
| jamielennox | harlowja: my understanding from the bug was that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135903/ would fix it | 21:56 |
| harlowja | mine to, and the title seems like it would | 21:57 |
| jamielennox | but i'm tempted to submit to -infra to just make all those jobs non-voting till it gets figured out | 21:57 |
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| jamielennox | i haven't been able to pass any client gates this week | 21:57 |
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| harlowja | ya, maybe an email ML post first? not sure | 21:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dane LeBlanc proposed openstack/neutron: Support Multiple IPv6 Prefixes and Addresses for IPv6 Network https://review.openstack.org/113339 | 21:58 |
| harlowja | oslo stuffs i think has also been unable to get any review to pass (i know i have that problem at least, due to NOT_REGISTERED and that bug and some other infra issues this week it seems) | 21:58 |
| jamielennox | was hoping that someone from neutron might know what's happening? *cough* <-neutron guys | 21:58 |
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| harlowja | i second that *cough* | 22:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: ping | 22:05 |
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