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| kevinbenton | gus: about neutron? | 02:30 |
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| gus | kevinbenton: yep. https://linux.conf.au/schedule/30218/view_talk | 02:31 |
| gus | (general intro talk) | 02:32 |
| kevinbenton | gus: ah | 02:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron-specs: ofagent-edge-overlay https://review.openstack.org/131038 | 02:37 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: that intro has a mistake. It should read: Neutron provides the minimum set of constructs to | 02:41 |
| kevinbenton | Develop a barely functioning virtual network | 02:41 |
| kevinbenton | :) | 02:41 |
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| gus | the talk hasn't started yet - you can't start heckling _now_ ;) | 02:42 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: I have to heckle by proxy via you | 02:53 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: I think the chance of me getting an approval to go to Linux conf in Australia is very bleak | 02:54 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: this is cool https://code.facebook.com/posts/1499322996995183/solving-the-mystery-of-link-imbalance-a-metastable-failure-state-at-scale/ | 02:58 |
| kevinbenton | gus: Facebook accidentally discovered a method to reveal the switch link hashing algorithm | 02:58 |
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| gus | heh. | 03:05 |
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| gus | yeah, we saw some variations along that theme. It's surprisingly easy to invent an algorithm (eg round-robin) that sounds good at first, but ends up becoming an expensive way to pile all your requests onto the single slowest server. | 03:06 |
| gus | we were well aware of link hashing problems and avoided them by simply opening multiple connections and aggressively recreating any connection that looked like it was going too slow. | 03:07 |
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| gus | there were still problems with retransmitting too much, but I hear they've been greatly improved after I left too (in different ways).. | 03:08 |
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| gus | really they should have switched to "shortest outstanding transmit queue", since LRU still assumes that all paths are the same speed (and that all messages are the same size). | 03:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Talwar proposed openstack/neutron: Change description of default security group https://review.openstack.org/135552 | 03:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: attributes: Additional IP address validation https://review.openstack.org/136238 | 03:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: attributes: Additional IP address validation https://review.openstack.org/136238 | 03:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove Python 2.6 classifier https://review.openstack.org/137118 | 03:42 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: sorry, just noticed your response. Awesine | 05:10 |
| kevinbenton | Awesome* | 05:10 |
| kevinbenton | Shortest outstanding transmit queue is a mouthful to say 'least busy' | 05:11 |
| kevinbenton | :) | 05:11 |
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| Nobusada | Hi guys, I'm trying to make an "update-port" inside neutron and I'm getting the "no agent available" error. A copy of the full error is found on http://pastebin.com/gJV5E2zw. Does anyone know whats going on? | 05:14 |
| trinaths | Good Morning All | 05:15 |
| gus | so how unpopular would it be to just remove the py3* tox environments from neutron's envlist? | 05:16 |
| gus | .. because seriously, we *know* they're going to fail - there's just no point wasting the cpu cycles. | 05:16 |
| HenryG | gus: I don't know why they are there | 05:17 |
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| oda-g | Nobusada: it means no dhcp-agent running. | 05:17 |
| HenryG | gus: push a review and see who complains? | 05:17 |
| kevinbenton | gus: more murder if you ask me | 05:18 |
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| gus | HenryG: yep. I'll run it up the flagpole and see who salutes. | 05:18 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: I run them just to make sure the test runner isn't being polite and lying about my failures | 05:18 |
| Nobusada | oda-g: thanks, I'll report my progress soon | 05:21 |
| kevinbenton | gus, HenryG: there used to be a lot more optimism about the timeline to py33 | 05:22 |
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| kevinbenton | Then eventlet | 05:23 |
| kevinbenton | And now less optimism | 05:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed openstack/neutron: Update tox envlist to supported environments https://review.openstack.org/137516 | 05:32 |
| gus | someone beat me to the py26 toxenv removal. | 05:32 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: oooh, used the patch to sneak in pylint :) | 05:35 |
| gus | yeah and I feel bad about it. | 05:35 |
| gus | someone (quite reasonably) asked me to add it to envlist in another pylint cl. | 05:35 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: tox by itself has been broken so long because of this that I doubt anyone but new people will notice :) | 05:37 |
| kevinbenton | Especially since it ran both py26 and py27 at the same time until recently | 05:38 |
| kevinbenton | That's a good 2 hours on a nice server | 05:39 |
| kevinbenton | Used to be at least | 05:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed openstack/neutron: Fix incorrect exception order in _execute_request https://review.openstack.org/116539 | 05:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed openstack/neutron: Enable undefined-loop-variable pylint check https://review.openstack.org/129784 | 05:48 |
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| dougwig | gus: i tried to remove py3. got shot down hard. | 06:02 |
| dougwig | gus: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118479/ | 06:03 |
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| gus | huh. fun. | 06:05 |
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| lazy_prince | any one having working knowledge of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-external-attachment-points | 06:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Talwar proposed openstack/neutron: “Default” naming for security group confuse users https://review.openstack.org/135552 | 06:20 |
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| gus | huh, I think the hostname validation regex fix is wrong. | 06:36 |
| gus | .. or at least the regex is matching quite a liberal interpretation of hostnames. | 06:36 |
| gus | in particular the fix (accidentally by the looks of it) removed the rejection of a hostname with all digits. | 06:37 |
| gus | .. at least that's what I think from just staring at the regex, without actually running test cases ;) | 06:37 |
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| gus | more worryingly, there seems to be no discussion I can find about the (complex!) hostname regex when it was added in patch 16 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14219/, nor when an important \ was removed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135616/ | 06:46 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/106179/regular-expression-to-match-dns-hostname-or-ip-address | 07:21 |
| kevinbenton | gus: the suggestion there for hostname seems much simpler | 07:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: MeteringPluginRpc: Fix crash in periodic_task https://review.openstack.org/137538 | 07:22 |
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| neophy | Hi all, How to test blueprint code: ML2 mechanism driver for Cisco Nexus1000V : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114872/ using devstack | 07:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Add functional tests for IptablesManager using tcp/udp https://review.openstack.org/120349 | 09:37 |
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| kevinbenton | gus: filing bugs now for that regex, it's a hot mess | 09:40 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, hi | 09:59 |
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| amuller | ZZelle: yo Cedric | 10:00 |
| amuller | What's up? | 10:00 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, i am trying to understand why running the metadata-proxy without root permissions break functional testing | 10:01 |
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| amuller | ZZelle: Sorry I haven't looked at that patch yet | 10:03 |
| amuller | or the failure | 10:03 |
| ZZelle | amuller, there is a trouble with the messaging (http://logs.openstack.org/40/136840/6/check/check-neutron-dsvm-functional/3779464/console.html) | 10:03 |
| amuller | ZZelle: in a meeting now let's talk after | 10:07 |
| ZZelle | amuller, oki | 10:07 |
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| ekarlso- | is there a way to get the netns for a given tenant network or so ? | 10:27 |
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| amuller | ekarlso-: netns are per router not network | 10:34 |
| amuller | or you mean dhcp? | 10:34 |
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| ekarlso- | amuller: i'm trying to debug connectivity issues between compute and network nodes :/ | 10:36 |
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| ekarlso- | for some reason the dhcp traffic aint reaching the net node | 10:36 |
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| ekarlso- | I see dhcp packets on the compute node bridge but never anything on the net node or a reply on the compute side | 10:37 |
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| ekarlso- | amuller: is there any smart way of checking that kinda stuff ? | 10:37 |
| amuller | ekarlso-: not a smart way no :) | 10:38 |
| amuller | ekarlso-: VLANS or overlays? | 10:38 |
| amuller | what plugin, agents? | 10:38 |
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| ekarlso- | amuller: standard ml ovs using vxlan | 10:39 |
| amuller | is there a ping between the compute node and the network node? | 10:39 |
| ekarlso- | all agents are showing as green so I think traffic is borked somewhere in between | 10:39 |
| ekarlso- | amuller: yes | 10:39 |
| amuller | net-show on the network | 10:39 |
| amuller | shows it as vxlan type? | 10:39 |
| amuller | (as an admin) | 10:39 |
| ekarlso- | yes :) | 10:40 |
| amuller | I'd try iptables -F, setenforce 0 | 10:40 |
| amuller | just to see if it fixes | 10:40 |
| amuller | so you can narrow it down | 10:40 |
| ekarlso- | iptables -F ? | 10:41 |
| amuller | otherwise, if you tcpdump on the compute node's physical NIC, and the net node's physical NIC, you see the DHCP request on the compute but not on the net node? | 10:41 |
| amuller | flush all iptables rules | 10:41 |
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| amuller | ekarlso-: another test is to create 2 VMs on 2 computes in different racks | 10:44 |
| amuller | give them static IPs | 10:44 |
| amuller | and check ping | 10:44 |
| amuller | maybe there's something in the network filtering VXLAN? | 10:45 |
| ekarlso- | hmm, I have a suspicion | 10:45 |
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| p01s0n | hi is there any way i can hide external network from networking tab | 10:52 |
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| ekarlso- | amuller: so I see vxlan packets arriving in at the interface at least :/ | 10:56 |
| ekarlso- | amuller: then the q is just why they dont get any further | 10:57 |
| amuller | ahh ok so you do see it on the net node | 10:57 |
| amuller | ok is there a DHCP namespace for the network? | 10:57 |
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| ekarlso- | amuller: yea | 10:57 |
| amuller | does it have an interface with an IP in it, in the network's subnet? | 10:58 |
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| amuller | and /var/lib/neutron/dhcp/network_id/hosts | 10:58 |
| amuller | does that seem sane? | 10:58 |
| ekarlso- | seems so amuller but there's no packets coming in | 10:59 |
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| ekarlso- | amuller: shouldn't there be more then 2 flows on a compute node or ? | 11:13 |
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| yfried | SridharG: ping | 11:16 |
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| yfried | SridharG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1396310 | 11:21 |
| SridharG | yfried: pls go ahead. | 11:21 |
| yfried | SridharG: about this bug - I'm not sure that it is really coupled with https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1237807 | 11:22 |
| yfried | SridharG: and in any case - what does "opinion" mean? | 11:22 |
| SridharG | yfried: AFAIK, it means we would like to hear the opinion from other Neutron folks. | 11:23 |
| yfried | SridharG: ok. So you don't need more details from me. that's good :) | 11:23 |
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| SridharG | yfried: your report was fine. I can fix the issue and propose a patch, but the problem is that it may not be approved. | 11:24 |
| yfried | SridharG: why? | 11:25 |
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| SridharG | yfried: so I wanted to hear from Neutron team the expected behavior when admin_state _up is set to false. | 11:25 |
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| yfried | SridharG: I've talked with markmcclain about this before I've submitted the patch | 11:26 |
| SridharG | yfried: as you see from the other patch, there is a discussion that this attribute can be removed from Neutron API | 11:26 |
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| SridharG | yfried: cool. What did he say? | 11:26 |
| yfried | [Tuesday, November 25, 2014] [09:14:05 PM] <markmcclain> yfried: for Kilo we're working on correcting issues like that | 11:26 |
| yfried | [Tuesday, November 25, 2014] [09:14:14 PM] <yfried> markmcclain: should I file a bug on it? | 11:27 |
| yfried | [Tuesday, November 25, 2014] [09:14:46 PM] <markmcclain> yfried: I think we've already got one for it | 11:27 |
| yfried | [Tuesday, November 25, 2014] [09:16:09 PM] <markmcclain> yfried: not a 100%, but that class of problem is one we're working to fix in the API refactoring work | 11:27 |
| yfried | [Tuesday, November 25, 2014] [09:16:52 PM] <yfried> markmcclain: I'm filing a bug. feel free to mark as duplicate. it should serve for a test that we are working on | 11:27 |
| yfried | [Tuesday, November 25, 2014] [09:21:36 PM] <markmcclain> yfried: that sounds good | 11:27 |
| yfried | [Tuesday, November 25, 2014] [09:11:41 PM] <yfried> if the router is going down (set admin_state_up=False) by admin, shouldn't fip-op-status be DOWN as well? | 11:28 |
| yfried | [Tuesday, November 25, 2014] [09:13:50 PM] <markmcclain> yfried: eventually yes, but right now I don't believe that properly happens | 11:28 |
| yfried | SridharG: ^ | 11:28 |
| SridharG | yfried: thanks. I'll add markmcclain to the bug report which includes the background details. Once we get a clarity the expected behavior myself/anyone can take up the issue. | 11:29 |
| yfried | SridharG: could you please explain what the alternative would be (to what I've suggested)? | 11:30 |
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| SridharG | My only concern is that as part of API refactoring, Neutron Core team may decide that the flag "admin_state _up" should be removed. In such cases, as you know, a different patch is necessary. | 11:32 |
| SridharG | yfried: pls see - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1237807/comments/6 | 11:32 |
| SridharG | yfried: it talks about network, but the same concerns may be raised for a router aswell. | 11:33 |
| SridharG | yfried: lets hear from mark and others. I'll add them to the Bug report. | 11:33 |
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| ekarlso- | amuller: I think there was some old crud leftover, I just deleted the net and re-added it and works fine :P | 11:39 |
| amuller | ekarlso-: Sounds good | 11:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-neutronclient: neutron port-list -f csv outputs poorly formatted JSON strings https://review.openstack.org/99929 | 11:45 |
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| trinaths | mestery: ping | 11:58 |
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| yfried | SridharG: posted my 2 cents on that discussion | 11:59 |
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| SridharG | yfried: :-) | 12:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Numan Siddique proposed openstack/neutron: Do not restart vpn processes for every router update https://review.openstack.org/136858 | 12:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Separate wait_until to standalone function https://review.openstack.org/125109 | 12:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Add functional tests for IptablesManager using tcp/udp https://review.openstack.org/120349 | 12:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Add Process class helper to manage processes with namespace https://review.openstack.org/122207 | 12:38 |
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| ajo | obondarev, ping about : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120806/ | 13:08 |
| ajo | what do you think if we use ipsets (vs ipset_names) | 13:08 |
| ajo | or vs ipset_chains (bad one) | 13:08 |
| ajo | ipset_set_names -> ipsets, hmm, that could be confusing | 13:09 |
| ajo | ipset_names | 13:09 |
| ajo | and ipsets when it's describing actual IP "sets" | 13:09 |
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| ajo | the niceness or trying to share things, you activate different neuronal paths, and you end up with better/different conclussions.. | 13:10 |
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| ihrachyshka | sc68cal: hey! a question on dhcpv6-stateless | 13:55 |
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| ihrachyshka | sc68cal: I assume that Other flag should be set in RAs in that case, though I don't see AdvOtherConfigFlag set anywhere in the code. Am I missing smth? | 13:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: L3 Agent restructure - observer hierarchy https://review.openstack.org/136549 | 16:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Add metadata proxy L3 agent driver https://review.openstack.org/137672 | 16:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Allow to request metadata proxy only from internal interfaces https://review.openstack.org/133506 | 16:20 |
| amuller | ZZelle: Did you figure out the issue with metadata proxy and HA routers? | 16:21 |
| ZZelle | amuller, yes | 16:21 |
| amuller | cool :) | 16:22 |
| amuller | ok I see the latest PS should fix it | 16:22 |
| ZZelle | amuller, normally | 16:22 |
| amuller | I'm glad the functional tests helped for something | 16:23 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, now i know also how keepalived works | 16:29 |
| ZZelle | amuller, one remark | 16:29 |
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| amuller | ZZelle: Very cool :) | 16:29 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, keepalived instances are not cleaned by devstack unstack.sh | 16:29 |
| amuller | Hmm, what does unstack currently do? Just make sure that system resources are cleaned? | 16:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Allow to request metadata proxy only from internal interfaces https://review.openstack.org/133506 | 16:30 |
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| amuller | cleaning up a system is not trivial... can do it via API, netns cleanup, etc | 16:31 |
| ZZelle | amuller, typically unstack.sh deletes all neutron namespaces | 16:33 |
| amuller | yeah looking in devstack code now | 16:33 |
| amuller | does it kill metadata proxy for example? | 16:34 |
| amuller | dnsmasq? | 16:34 |
| amuller | ovsdb-monitor | 16:34 |
| amuller | yeah I see it kills all of this stuff individually | 16:35 |
| amuller | what a pain | 16:35 |
| ZZelle | amuller, "quite" everything | 16:36 |
| amuller | devstack should be using a neutron utility for this stuff | 16:37 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, indeed | 16:37 |
| amuller | I'll write down to send a devstack patch anyway | 16:37 |
| amuller | thanks Cedric | 16:37 |
| amuller | I bet we don't clean up radvd too... | 16:38 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, ^ | 17:45 |
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| igordcard | is there an automated way for creating missing openstack/neutron database tables that are necessary because an extension was manually added, i.e., not provided by the distro packages, ? | 18:41 |
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| gus | kevinbenton: yeah thanks. I was deep into understanding that regex until I got called away to feed kids :) | 22:43 |
| gus | While I was composing the email to os-dev, I realised I didn't understand why several of the testcases passed, so I'm just finishing my poking. | 22:43 |
| gus | I'm also quite surprised it allows underscores, which I thought were invalid in DNS hostnames (although allowed in SRV records, for example) | 22:44 |
| gus | the strlen-check-in-regex has to be more expensive than the regular python alternative too :/ | 22:45 |
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