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openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron: Remove config files that moved to service repos https://review.openstack.org/141224 | 00:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Full-stack white-box tests framework https://review.openstack.org/128257 | 00:08 |
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ZZelle | marun, hi | 00:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Catch duplicate errors scheduling SNAT service https://review.openstack.org/128857 | 00:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Generated testr_results.html for neutron functional jobs https://review.openstack.org/140851 | 00:18 |
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sdake | hey guys, I just upgraded to fedora 21, and restacked, and now neutron returns the following error during stacking | 00:56 |
sdake | http://paste.fedoraproject.org/158958/45739141 | 00:56 |
sdake | any suggested tips on what might cause that database connection problem? | 00:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Catch duplicate errors scheduling SNAT service https://review.openstack.org/128857 | 01:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Generated testr_results.html for neutron functional jobs https://review.openstack.org/140851 | 01:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Generate testr_results.html for neutron functional jobs https://review.openstack.org/140851 | 01:32 |
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marun | ZZelle_: hi | 01:38 |
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openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: ML2: portsecurity extension support https://review.openstack.org/99873 | 01:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Robin Wang proposed openstack/neutron: Mock up time.sleep to avoid unnecessary wait in test_ovs_tunnel https://review.openstack.org/141057 | 01:44 |
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armax | kevinbenton: ping | 01:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Robin Wang proposed openstack/neutron: Mock up time.sleep to avoid unnecessary wait in test_ovs_tunnel https://review.openstack.org/141057 | 01:45 |
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openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: ML2: portsecurity extension support https://review.openstack.org/99873 | 01:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add developer documentation for plugins/drivers contributions https://review.openstack.org/141171 | 02:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Fix for KeyError: 'gw_port_host' on l3_agent https://review.openstack.org/138562 | 02:35 |
openstackgerrit | Pattabi Ayyasami proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for the brocade lbaas driver based on v2 lbaas data model https://review.openstack.org/141248 | 02:35 |
openstackgerrit | Pattabi Ayyasami proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for the brocade lbaas driver based on v2 lbaas data model https://review.openstack.org/134108 | 02:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Rui Zang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: firewall: add mcafee ngfw driver support https://review.openstack.org/91286 | 02:44 |
armax | looks like the grenade job is currently busted for neutron | 02:46 |
armax | just a heads-up | 02:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Pattabi Ayyasami proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for the brocade lbaas driver based on v2 lbaas data model https://review.openstack.org/141251 | 02:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Pattabi Ayyasami proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for the brocade lbaas driver based on v2 lbaas data model https://review.openstack.org/134108 | 02:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Rui Zang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: firewall: add mcafee ngfw driver support https://review.openstack.org/91286 | 03:08 |
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openstackgerrit | watanabe isao proposed openstack/neutron: Bug-Fix for unexpected DHCP agent redundant https://review.openstack.org/138659 | 03:58 |
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larsks | neutron is setting the tag on the dhcp port (on br-int) to "4095" when it should be "1". Is this neutron's way of trying to tell me something? The neutron router attached to the same network has a correctly configured OVS port. Manually setting the tag on the port makes everything work. | 04:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Numan Siddique proposed openstack/neutron: Improve test coverage of dhcp agent scheduling https://review.openstack.org/120804 | 04:17 |
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trinaths | Hi All, Good Morning | 05:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Rui Zang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: firewall: add mcafee ngfw driver support https://review.openstack.org/91286 | 05:50 |
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yamamoto_ | dougwig: ping | 05:59 |
dougwig | yamamoto_: ack | 05:59 |
yamamoto_ | dougwig: https://github.com/dougwig/split-repo/blob/master/service-split.sh#L84 | 05:59 |
yamamoto_ | dougwig: sfile_root vs file_root is a typo? | 05:59 |
dougwig | yes, it is. and it's not in the oslo graduate script. i wonder when that got introduced. | 06:01 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/140929 | 06:08 |
dougwig | it doesn't appear to have been a problem, unless we have orphan commits in the git store. | 06:08 |
dougwig | i fixed it on github. thanks. | 06:08 |
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yamamoto_ | it it supposed to all files are kept for old tags like grizzly-1? | 06:11 |
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numan | vikram, ping | 06:12 |
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vikram | hi | 06:12 |
dougwig | yamamoto_: infra wanted to keep all the tags, yes. | 06:12 |
vikram | numan: hi | 06:12 |
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yamamoto_ | dougwig: is it easy to strip unrelated files for tags too? | 06:14 |
yamamoto_ | i want to do so for networking-ofagent | 06:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Sridar Kandaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-specs: FWaaS Insertion Model on a Single Router https://review.openstack.org/138672 | 06:15 |
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dougwig | good question. in my first tests, i didn't push any tags at all. do you want to save any of the tags? | 06:19 |
yamamoto_ | i want to keep relevant tags | 06:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Xu Han Peng proposed openstack/neutron: Support Extra DHCP Options for IPv4 and IPv6 https://review.openstack.org/136713 | 06:22 |
yamamoto_ | eg. release tags for releases which has ofagent. but don't want non-ofagent files there. | 06:22 |
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dougwig | i think it might prune them if nothing references them. since i moved over setup.cfg and requirements.txt and such, it has *some* history all the way back to the beginning. | 06:23 |
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dougwig | so maybe don't save history on the boilerplate files and see what happens? it's cheap to test on local repos, before you do it for real. | 06:24 |
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yamamoto_ | dougwig: i tried and the result seems to have all tags and their files | 06:27 |
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yamamoto_ | dougwig: https://github.com/yamt/ofagent-split/blob/master/ofagent.txt here's a list of files i used | 06:28 |
yamamoto_ | and result: https://github.com/yamt/networking-ofagent | 06:29 |
dougwig | that does seem pretty slim. i'm not sure how to minimize the tags. | 06:29 |
yamamoto_ | probably i should not bother to push tags i guess.. | 06:30 |
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dougwig | looks like there are some ways to edit tags. but i have no experience with them. | 06:31 |
yamamoto_ | ok. thank you anyway | 06:31 |
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dougwig | sure, good luck. | 06:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Sridar Kandaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-specs: FWaaS Insertion Model on a Single Router https://review.openstack.org/138672 | 06:50 |
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openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: validate L3 HA min/max _l3_agents_per_router https://review.openstack.org/140340 | 06:56 |
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openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: validate L3 HA min/max _l3_agents_per_router https://review.openstack.org/140340 | 07:00 |
openstackgerrit | P. Watsalya Mishra proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: "neutron help router-update" help info updated https://review.openstack.org/141006 | 07:01 |
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openstackgerrit | P. Watsalya Mishra proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: "neutron help router-update" help info updated https://review.openstack.org/141006 | 07:06 |
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SridharG | HenryG: hello.. | 07:08 |
SridharG | HenryG: Can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135872/ when you get some time. Thank you | 07:08 |
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sc68cal | SridharG: hey don't assign my router bug to yourself please | 07:12 |
sc68cal | Unless you have a patch like right this moment that fixes it | 07:13 |
SridharG | sc68cal: If you are planning to work on it, please assign it on your name. | 07:13 |
SridharG | sc68cal: I'll un-assign it. | 07:14 |
sc68cal | SridharG: I wrote it up before boarding my flight back home. | 07:14 |
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sc68cal | Didn't have time to assign | 07:14 |
SridharG | sc68cal: aah i see, no problem sean. | 07:14 |
SridharG | sc68cal: done, if you need any help from myside - let me know. | 07:16 |
sc68cal | Thanks - I'll talk to you via email and collaborate - my flight was super delayed - 2 am and just landed | 07:16 |
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SridharG | sc68cal: Sure Sean :-) | 07:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Rui Zang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: l3-router: add mcafee ngfw l3 router plugin https://review.openstack.org/134198 | 07:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Rui Zang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: firewall: add mcafee ngfw driver support https://review.openstack.org/91286 | 08:01 |
openstackgerrit | Xu Han Peng proposed openstack/neutron: Fix IPv6 RA security group rule for DVR https://review.openstack.org/141297 | 08:03 |
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openstackgerrit | watanabe isao proposed openstack/neutron: Bug-Fix for unexpected DHCP agent redundant https://review.openstack.org/138659 | 08:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Sylvain Afchain proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor the _get_external_device_interface_name method https://review.openstack.org/136042 | 09:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Add functional test for l3-agent metadata proxy https://review.openstack.org/136511 | 10:02 |
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GonZo2000 | Hi can i had more ips to an existent floating ip pool on icehouse ? | 10:43 |
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GonZo2000 | add* | 10:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Separate wait_until to standalone function https://review.openstack.org/125109 | 12:16 |
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Fullbreed | Any hacker selling tools here send me a private message | 12:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Enable test_migration https://review.openstack.org/140997 | 12:47 |
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raorn | does anyone have a copy of https://www.dropbox.com/s/9bojvv9vywsz8sd/IPv6%20Two%20Modes%20v3.0.pdf ? | 12:56 |
raorn | dropbox link is dead :-( | 12:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Stale VXLAN & GRE tunnel endpoint deletion from DB https://review.openstack.org/121000 | 13:05 |
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SridharG | raorn: hi | 13:18 |
SridharG | raorn: I don't have the copy of the pdf, but the following link has the snapshot of the pdf | 13:19 |
SridharG | raorn: http://openstack.10931.n7.nabble.com/Neutron-IPv6-Private-or-Public-network-td31030.html | 13:19 |
raorn | great, thanks! | 13:22 |
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HenryG | SridharG: done | 13:26 |
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ZZelle | HenryG, hi | 13:26 |
HenryG | ZZelle: hi | 13:26 |
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ZZelle | HenryG, is it normal we get such error? it seems to be linked to services split http://logs.openstack.org/11/136511/20/check/check-grenade-dsvm-neutron/9fcd2dd/logs/new/screen-q-svc.txt.gz | 13:27 |
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SridharG | HenryG: thank you. | 13:28 |
HenryG | ZZelle: that does seem related to the services split. I don't know if it is 'normal'. | 13:30 |
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ZZelle | HenryG, who should i ask? i am not service split fluent :) | 13:35 |
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HenryG | ZZelle: I thought saw some patches for this kind of thing yesterday. I am looking for them to check if the fix is imminent. | 13:36 |
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HenryG | ZZelle: dougwig is the service split tzar. | 13:36 |
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ZZelle | HenryG, thanks | 13:42 |
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enikanorov_ | amuller: hi | 13:57 |
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amuller | enikanorov_: heya Eugene | 13:57 |
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enikanorov_ | amuller: read committed isolation level didn't work out as expected. we've run more tests.. it does solve the case with retries, but with many other tests it makes things worse | 13:58 |
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amuller | That sucks | 13:58 |
amuller | But we didn't have guarentees, that's a big change | 13:58 |
enikanorov_ | the irony is that reties were introduced to get rid of locking, which also resulted in lock wait timeouts and deadlocks | 13:58 |
enikanorov_ | but 'read committed' just brings all of them back | 13:59 |
raorn | SridharG: i have commented https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136733/ without voting yet | 13:59 |
enikanorov_ | just because instead of snapshot db is reading stuff with each query, thus increasing a chance two transactions use the same data | 14:00 |
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enikanorov_ | *try to lock the same data | 14:00 |
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amuller | I guess one approach would be to keep using repeated read but solve these retry flows one by one | 14:00 |
amuller | I don't know if we'll have an elegant approach | 14:01 |
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HenryG | ZZelle: https://review.openstack.org/141256 | 14:01 |
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enikanorov_ | eventlet-friendly mysql client would be the solution | 14:01 |
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amuller | enikanorov_: ihrachyshka has been working on that | 14:01 |
amuller | I don't know what's the status on that effort | 14:02 |
ZZelle | HenryG, outch | 14:02 |
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ZZelle | HenryG, ah it's in grenade not neutron ... we just need to waith:) | 14:03 |
ZZelle | wait | 14:03 |
HenryG | ZZelle: yes | 14:03 |
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ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: amuller: the status is *should work, but is not tested in gate* | 14:04 |
ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: amuller: though there was an email from Mike Bayer recently with some issues he discovered. Let me show you | 14:04 |
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enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: interesting | 14:05 |
ihrachyshka | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/052344.html | 14:05 |
openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Allow security group rules to be specified in both directions https://review.openstack.org/140676 | 14:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Stale VXLAN and GRE tunnel port/flow deletion https://review.openstack.org/136106 | 14:07 |
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amuller | ihrachyshka: enikanorov_: No replies... It's been a week, maybe he's found out some more info by now | 14:11 |
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ihrachyshka | amuller: see conclusion at https://github.com/PyMySQL/PyMySQL/issues/275 | 14:14 |
ihrachyshka | I guess it just should be solved on oslo.db side (recycling connection) | 14:15 |
ihrachyshka | "I don't think there is a clean/safe way for the driver to gracefully recover from such a situation, and instead of re-using the connection the user should close the connection and make a new one if they are using gevent timeouts to abruptly abort normal processing of responses." | 14:15 |
ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: ^^ | 14:15 |
enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: thanks | 14:15 |
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enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: on the other hand, i don't have a feeling that we have a clear direction | 14:16 |
ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: direction on the issue? or on adopting the eventlet-aware libs? | 14:16 |
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ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: my work mainly stucked on two things. 1. mysqlconnector still not published on pypi (oracle...); 2. there is no infra framework to add periodic jobs for features out-of-golden-standard (the framework was planned to be implemented during early Kilo) | 14:18 |
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enikanorov_ | ihrachyshka: what do you mean by (2)? | 14:19 |
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ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: well, we can't introduce new gate jobs for running with non-standard drivers, right? so we need a periodic one, like for stable branches. but there is no clear path to achieve that atm, and infra team was going to provide some self-service/self-tracking webui to register new jobs/track failures/collect stats on those, with subscription to interesting jobs, email notifications etc. | 14:20 |
enikanorov_ | oh, i see | 14:21 |
ihrachyshka | but devstack wise, I've patched it already to be able to pass any driver | 14:21 |
ihrachyshka | it's just that no u/s jobs are there to test those drivers | 14:21 |
enikanorov_ | well, existing mysql client has fundamental issue anyway... | 14:21 |
ihrachyshka | though downstream parties are welcome to try;) | 14:21 |
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ihrachyshka | enikanorov_: without any reasonable and successful testing at least with periodic jobs for some time + benchmarks, we won't be able to push the change of default driver though | 14:22 |
ihrachyshka | everyone knows it sucks, but new options may suck even more | 14:22 |
ihrachyshka | so code wise, all is done. now is time for testing/benchmarking/packaging... | 14:23 |
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ihrachyshka | well, there are some really minor issues in glance and nova unit tests not closed that forbid us to use sqlalchemy-migrate version that includes the changes needed for mysql-connector | 14:24 |
ihrachyshka | two patches: | 14:24 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Allow updating VM port's mac_address https://review.openstack.org/129085 | 14:24 |
ihrachyshka | nova: https://review.openstack.org/121028 | 14:24 |
ihrachyshka | glance: https://review.openstack.org/121033 | 14:24 |
ihrachyshka | but really, it's just for unit tests. production wise, should (somehow) work | 14:25 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Citrix NetScaler LBaaS v2 driver https://review.openstack.org/139772 | 14:25 |
ihrachyshka | specs merging woot woot | 14:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Reorganize unit test tree https://review.openstack.org/140221 | 14:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Kilo L2 agent improvements https://review.openstack.org/137808 | 15:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: tests: initialize admin context after super().setUp call https://review.openstack.org/141405 | 15:31 |
openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Stale VXLAN and GRE tunnel port/flow deletion https://review.openstack.org/136106 | 15:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: ipv6: set OtherConfig flag for DHCPv6 stateless subnets https://review.openstack.org/137656 | 15:32 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: tests: initialize admin context after super().setUp call https://review.openstack.org/139998 | 15:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Don't restore stopped mock that is initialized in setUp() https://review.openstack.org/139011 | 15:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Enable test_migration https://review.openstack.org/140997 | 15:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Vivekanandan Narasimhan proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Retrieve list of ports using input security-groups https://review.openstack.org/138695 | 15:58 |
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marun | HenryG: I have a couple of functional testing additions that could use your eye. | 16:00 |
marun | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136511/ | 16:00 |
marun | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120804/ | 16:00 |
marun | HenryG: They look good to me but a second opinion is always welcome. :) | 16:00 |
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carl_baldwin | HenryG: Not sure what is wrong with the dvr job yet. Didn’t have any time yesterday to look at it. | 16:04 |
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claudiub | mestery: hello | 16:07 |
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mestery | claudiub: Yo! | 16:07 |
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claudiub | mestery: if you're not too busy, can you take a look at a proposed blueprint? It's about enabling NIC teaming on Hyper-V. :D https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/hyper-v-nic-teaming | 16:08 |
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mestery | claudiub: I will do that, right now I'm on a call | 16:09 |
claudiub | mestery: sure thing. :) | 16:09 |
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amuller | marun: ihrachyshka: I want to use flock in the L3 agent. On my F20 VM it's supplied by util-linux RPM... Is there any depedency / packaging issue to be aware of here? For example the functional job will now use it. Do we expect any machine currently capable of running the functional job to possibly not have flock on it? | 16:10 |
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marun | amuller: if it works on 14.04, we can merge it | 16:12 |
amuller | that it does | 16:12 |
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marun | amuller: Are the primitives supplied by oslo not sufficient, though? | 16:13 |
amuller | I don't think so for this weird usage | 16:13 |
amuller | I found raceful behavior when keepalived sends two quickly consecutive notifications on the same router | 16:13 |
marun | amuller: It may be worth talking to the oslo maintainers and make sure you're not missing something and/or if they want to incorporate the functionality you require. | 16:13 |
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marun | amuller: I can't imagine us being that special that nobody else in openstack would benefit. | 16:14 |
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amuller | the notifier script is executed twice, in order, but then (Looking back this is obvious) you no longer have any guarentee of ordering | 16:14 |
amuller | the contents of the notifier scripts can be executed out of order | 16:14 |
marun | amuller: (but I'm not very imaginative) | 16:14 |
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amuller | specifically, if the two scripts are executed in order (1, 2), but the HA state file is written in order (2, 1) | 16:14 |
amuller | you'll end up with the wrong HA state written to disk | 16:15 |
amuller | and then Very Bad (TM) things happen | 16:15 |
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amuller | so the simplest thing to do is to make keepalived invoke the script "through" flock | 16:15 |
amuller | it's also the most correct I think, Ihar and I thought it through | 16:15 |
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amuller | so... I need direct usage of flock | 16:15 |
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amuller | marun: We could discuss it further on Gerrit I think it'll be easier | 16:16 |
marun | amuller: is that your way of forcing me to review? :p | 16:16 |
amuller | There's no patch up yet so I trust you to forget about it by the time I push it :) | 16:17 |
amuller | Sadly also I'm just not able to reproduce the issue with automation | 16:17 |
marun | amuller: that seems to be a common refrain lately | 16:17 |
amuller | I wrote a functional test that is identical as far as I could tell to how I was reproducing it manually | 16:17 |
amuller | but it passes 100% | 16:18 |
amuller | annoying | 16:18 |
marun | salv-orlando: speaking of bug reproduction, any further thought on how to fix the beagles's policy bug? | 16:18 |
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marun | salv-orlando: we discussed the possibility of detecting when a request id was present, but we never carried that conversation to its conclusion. | 16:18 |
marun | salv-orlando: I know this won't be an issue after the pecan split, but I think there's still an opportunity to fix the bug for juno/icehouse | 16:19 |
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marun | amuller: fake it till ya make it, maybe? | 16:19 |
marun | amuller: that doesn't make sense, I know | 16:20 |
marun | amuller: I'm getting confused by thinking about the policy bug, also a tough race condition. | 16:20 |
marun | amuller: I'm convinced we need to develop patterns for reproduction for this class of problems, because we certainly have no shortage of them, but it's 'head against wall' for now. | 16:21 |
amuller | yeah | 16:21 |
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beagles | marun salv-orlando: somebody will have to explain it to me how it makes sense that if the intended function of the policy checks for the REST API rely on the policies being loaded after the extensions are loaded and the RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP is extended for those extensions that we DON'T explicitly cause the policies to be reloaded after that point (or not if they haven't already) | 16:22 |
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marun | beagles: the discussion I had with salv-orlando was avoiding policy load until an actual request was received | 16:23 |
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marun | beagles: one possibility would be detecting the presence of a request id via the context, since that would indicate a request was being handled. | 16:23 |
beagles | marun, ah I see... as long as it was absolutely impossible to load the policies prior to that | 16:24 |
marun | beagles: the trick is making the request id available to the policy machinery | 16:24 |
marun | beagles: easy enough to lazy-load and load only once | 16:24 |
marun | beagles: the trick is in making sure the lazy load doesn't happen till a request is being processed | 16:24 |
marun | beagles: so, as for a test... | 16:25 |
marun | beagles: rather than triggering the failure directly | 16:25 |
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marun | beagles: consider injecting code that generates an exception if the policy is loaded too early | 16:25 |
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marun | beagles: then the fix can be making sure policy is not init'd until the right time. | 16:25 |
beagles | marun, I submit that might break some things | 16:26 |
marun | beagles: I guess that doesn't help though :/ | 16:26 |
marun | beagles: well, I'm talking about only doing that at test time | 16:26 |
marun | beagles: hence, 'inject' | 16:26 |
marun | beagles: for a given test worker, tests do run synchronously, so it shouldn't break anything | 16:26 |
beagles | marun, uhuh, but I wonder if there is code that is happening in there that *needs* those policies to be loaded | 16:26 |
marun | beagles: that would be a #fail | 16:27 |
beagles | marun, even if not entirely correct | 16:27 |
marun | beagles: and it would be good to know that it's happening so we can correct | 16:27 |
ihrachyshka | mestery: hey. I wonder whether there are any ideas on how to fix grenade. entry points are probably not enough since drivers are not loaded thru stevedore. should we patch load_drivers() to use it? | 16:27 |
beagles | marun, in the meantime... | 16:27 |
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mestery | ihrachyshka: We have a patch in the merge queue, and we've spoken with jlibosva about a real fix | 16:27 |
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ihrachyshka | mestery: oh nice. link? | 16:27 |
mestery | ihrachyshka: Checkout eavesdrop in #openstack-qa for details from this morning | 16:28 |
mestery | ihrachyshka: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141256/ | 16:28 |
beagles | marun, well.. it just kind of sucks that issue lives out in the wild | 16:28 |
ihrachyshka | thanks! | 16:28 |
marun | ihrachyshka: grenade is such an ironic name. I get that it's intended to spot flaws in upgrade, but it keeps exploding all on its own. | 16:28 |
mestery | ihrachyshka: I expect Monday morning armax and I will talk with jlibosva, we'll catch you too, sound good? | 16:28 |
mestery | Monday morning PST, afternoon for you folks | 16:28 |
beagles | marun, and the type of fix you are talking about is not as readily backportable | 16:28 |
marun | beagles: Why not? | 16:28 |
ihrachyshka | mestery: cool | 16:28 |
marun | beagles: forcing the policies to load consistently doesn't seem like a problem. | 16:28 |
mestery | ihrachyshka: Awesome, thanks sir! | 16:28 |
marun | beagles: who exactly is relying on that kind of broken behavior? | 16:29 |
carl_baldwin | pc_m: pong | 16:29 |
ihrachyshka | marun: nah, not in that case, we clearly broke backwards compat | 16:29 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: hi | 16:29 |
carl_baldwin | pc_m: You pinged yesterday and I never saw it until this morning. | 16:29 |
beagles | marun, let's take the openvwitch plugin for example... it starts RPC processing as soon as its loaded ... we cannot even rely on RPCs being held off until after the REST API stuff is initialized | 16:30 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: Yeah, I had a bit of time, during travel. | 16:30 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: Two questions... | 16:30 |
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marun | beagles: I don't know why it would be impossible to have it wait. | 16:31 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: For VPN and FW commits I have out, they are failing PEP8, because advanced_service.py is not upstream on Neutron. Should we be pushing to get that commit in? | 16:31 |
marun | beagles: er... | 16:31 |
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carl_baldwin | pc_m: Yes, we should be. I’ll review it this morning and see what I can do. | 16:32 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: The other is related... should I continue refactoring on 136549, or should we create a new commit (so that the other can upstream for the other repos to use)? | 16:32 |
marun | beagles: so request_id isn't the solution.. | 16:32 |
beagles | marun, are request_ids in rpc calls? | 16:32 |
marun | beagles: no, it's rest only | 16:32 |
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pc_m | carl_baldwin: I'm assuming the next step is to try to reduce the event handlers? | 16:33 |
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ihrachyshka | mestery: do we track the bug for neutron? if not, there is CI one at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1401895 | 16:33 |
carl_baldwin | pc_m: Yes, that should be a next step. | 16:33 |
marun | beagles: the other thing discussed with salv-orlando was that db access during plugin init was a contributing factor | 16:33 |
mestery | ihrachyshka: Sounds good, lets link that review there | 16:34 |
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beagles | marun, it is all crazy messy | 16:34 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: Was the thought that before could be at the router_added() and after at the end of the processing? | 16:34 |
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pc_m | carl_baldwin: Also, do you think that we need a before/after add and update operations or do you think we could have an event for before add, and an event for after router processing? | 16:35 |
marun | beagles: Another option would be raising exceptions when policy changes happen after policy init | 16:35 |
openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add support for subnet allocation https://review.openstack.org/135771 | 16:35 |
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beagles | marun, if policies are needed before the REST API is initialized then, in the backport scenario at least, you are going to need to reload it once the REST side is initialized because you can't prevent plugin loading it | 16:36 |
marun | at least it would give better visibility to the problem | 16:36 |
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marun | beagles: hmm, because rpc doesn't need policy? | 16:36 |
beagles | marun, does RPC not need policies | 16:36 |
marun | beagles: then request id could be viable after all | 16:36 |
beagles | marun, because why is it loading it if it does? | 16:37 |
marun | beagles: limit policy loading until a request id is in play | 16:37 |
beagles | marun, limit, or reload on the first request id? | 16:37 |
marun | beagles: Either, really, though limit would seem cleaner. | 16:37 |
* beagles submits that is effectively the same fix as what is proposed | 16:37 | |
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pc_m | carl_baldwin: I think we were talking about doing create_router and sync for VPN, after the router processing is done (can check more). Wondering how that fits with metadata proxy. | 16:38 |
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beagles | marun, well... are we talking about saying "code must not do bad things before X?" | 16:38 |
marun | beagles: It seems wrong somehow to have policy be in a potentially inconsistent state until the reset. | 16:39 |
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marun | beagles: but maybe I'm just being idealistic | 16:40 |
carl_baldwin | pc_m: I think metadata proxy will be fine. | 16:41 |
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beagles | marun, I don't disagree but I'm not sure how to get around that... not without some fairly expansive refactoring | 16:41 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: So you think one event at router_added, when create router_info, and one at the end of both add and update? | 16:42 |
beagles | marun, which I would say is the real proper fix.. but is not backportable ;) | 16:42 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: Just want to make sure I'm on the same page. | 16:42 |
carl_baldwin | pc_m: Understood | 16:42 |
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marun | beagles: ok, so maybe I understand this a bit better. | 16:46 |
marun | beagles: But how can you be sure that the policy reset is happening at the right time? | 16:46 |
marun | beagles: Is it definite that the reset is happening after everything has been loaded? | 16:46 |
beagles | marun, because the only time it is certain that it is right is after the RESOUCRE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP is populated | 16:47 |
beagles | marun.. well.. unless we allow dynamic reloading of extensions or code that would add policy checking logic then that seems to be the point in time that is relevant | 16:47 |
beagles | marun, Vincent Untz put the reset in the extension manager constructor... which worked for a lot of cases, but it left a small window where something could cause the policies to be reloaded before that map was processed. So moving the reset to after that improved the effectiveness of his fix | 16:48 |
marun | beagles: given that this is backport only, the behavior isn't likely to change. | 16:49 |
marun | beagles: the switch to pecan will make this problem go away entirely for kilo | 16:49 |
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marun | beagles: so I guess the only issue is for a test. | 16:49 |
marun | beagles: how about injecting a failure that the reset() fixes? | 16:50 |
beagles | marun, yeah.. if the refactoring adequately isolates the REST's policies from all else things should be gravy | 16:50 |
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beagles | marun, functional or system | 16:50 |
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marun | beagles: functional I'd say | 16:50 |
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marun | beagles: it's as much double-entry accounting as anything, but I think something of this importance justifies it. | 16:51 |
beagles | marun, do we permit instrumentation of code in functional testing? | 16:51 |
marun | beagles: you can do pretty much anything in functional testing | 16:52 |
marun | beagles: it's that messy middle-ground between white and black box | 16:52 |
beagles | marun, the test itself won't be easily backportable but that doesn't matter so much | 16:53 |
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marun | beagles: why wouldn't the test be backportable? | 16:53 |
beagles | marun, to the time prior to any functional tests | 16:53 |
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marun | beagles: when would that be? | 16:53 |
beagles | marun, might be tough to get in | 16:53 |
marun | beagles: we've had functional tests since icehouse | 16:53 |
beagles | marun, havana | 16:53 |
marun | beagles: huh, that's still supported :/ | 16:54 |
marun | beagles: I think we had functional tests in havana, but they didn't run in a special environment. they just ran alongside the unit tests. | 16:54 |
beagles | marun, dunno, I've never had to backport anything more than one revision back :) | 16:54 |
marun | beagles: I committed the first functional test in havana, so you should be fine. | 16:55 |
beagles | marun, what should be sufficient is to inject the creation of an admin context, then load a REST server with extensions, populate the backend with something that requires an extension's particular check to work and then check it | 16:55 |
beagles | the creation of the admin context could be the first thing .. period | 16:55 |
marun | beagles: if that's the simplest way to check it, go for it. | 16:56 |
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* beagles hopes there is some frickin' precedence | 16:56 | |
marun | beagles: arg. looks like it functional testing didn't make it till icehouse: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45676/ | 16:56 |
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beagles | marun, not a big deal it wouldn't be the first time a test was stripped during a backport patch | 16:57 |
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marun | beagles: true enough | 16:57 |
marun | beagles: so if you can get a test working, I'm comfortable merging. | 16:57 |
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marun | beagles: sorry it's taken so long for me to understand the problem. | 16:58 |
beagles | marun, I'll consider that as "an writing" statement :) | 16:58 |
openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Kill oslo-incubator files https://review.openstack.org/141425 | 16:58 |
marun | beagles: :) | 16:58 |
* beagles dives into test writing | 16:58 | |
beagles | nice way to spend a Friday afternoon actually.. I like writing tests.. | 16:58 |
beagles | OMG did I just say that out loud | 16:58 |
beagles | AND THIS IS A LOGGED CHANNEL | 16:59 |
beagles | I'm doomed | 16:59 |
beagles | :( | 16:59 |
marun | beagles: we'll need salv-orlando to confirm this - he seemed to be concerned that it wouldn't solve the problem - but I don't see how anything can be loaded after the reset in your proposed change. | 16:59 |
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beagles | marun, salv-orlando might know a detail I'm not aware of ... I'd love to hear it if so | 17:00 |
beagles | (or read it as the case may be) | 17:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Kill oslo-incubator files https://review.openstack.org/141428 | 17:00 |
marun | beagles: I'll consider your admission of liking testing 'in writing' too then ;) | 17:01 |
beagles | marun, yeah.. well... it's my own damned fault | 17:01 |
marun | beagles: you're not in bad company. anyone saying they don't like writing tests is effectively admitting that they don't like to ensure their code is of good quality. | 17:02 |
pc_m | ihrachyshka: ping | 17:02 |
ihrachyshka | dougwig: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I54c92a80e1d61bf7e2f710d3160697c22e2c94f5,n,z some cleanup | 17:03 |
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ihrachyshka | pc_m: hey | 17:03 |
pc_m | on these oslo-incubator files, can you fill me in on what these are all about? | 17:03 |
pc_m | (so I can better understand the commit) | 17:03 |
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* pc_m curious about them and trying to get up to speed | 17:05 | |
ihrachyshka | pc_m: well, the idea is that we should not have four copies of the same code for neutron. let's just have the needed incubator modules in neutron and reuse it from adv services as any other part of neutron | 17:05 |
ihrachyshka | pc_m: those files are syncs from oslo-incubator | 17:05 |
ihrachyshka | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Syncing_Code_from_Incubator | 17:06 |
pc_m | ihrachyshka: ah! Thanks! That was the missing piece for me. | 17:06 |
ihrachyshka | pc_m: it's already a pain when a bug fix comes into oslo-incubator, because each project should then sync the fix to their tree; so let's not make the pain even more severe for neutron :) | 17:07 |
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pc_m | ihrachyshka: right! | 17:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Replace non-ovs_lib calls of run_vsctl with libary functions https://review.openstack.org/141433 | 17:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: Functional test IPAM DB operation https://review.openstack.org/124136 | 17:15 |
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openstackgerrit | vinay yadhav proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Introducing Tap-as-a-Service https://review.openstack.org/96149 | 17:17 |
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armax | ihrachyshka: ping | 17:21 |
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ihrachyshka | armax: pong | 17:21 |
armax | ihrachyshka: I wanted to sync up with you on the upgrade path post adv svc split | 17:22 |
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ihrachyshka | armax: sure, jlibosva should also be interested | 17:22 |
armax | it’s probably late for you guys | 17:22 |
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ihrachyshka | armax: so the idea is to 1) make load_drivers() use stevedore 2) add entry points for compatibility (see setup.cfg for oslo.messaging entries for reference) | 17:22 |
ihrachyshka | armax: we still have ~10-15 mins before heading for beer :) | 17:23 |
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dougwig | ihrachyshka: thanks for the oslo patches. let's get unit and tempest rolling today before we contemplate those. | 17:23 |
ihrachyshka | dougwig: sure | 17:23 |
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armax | ihrachyshka, jlibosva: I think we can talk about this first thing Monday morning | 17:23 |
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ihrachyshka | dougwig: that's just something I saw on jlibosva's screen, and being oslo liaison, I didn't like it, so I nuked those :) | 17:23 |
ihrachyshka | armax: whatever suits you better | 17:23 |
armax | but ihrachyshka I agree with you, it’s unfortunate that the way the config options are laid out led us to where we are | 17:24 |
mestery | marun armax: Merging plugin decomposition spec, thanks for all the great work there! | 17:24 |
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mestery | marun: Nice words in your last comment too. | 17:24 |
marun | mestery: awesome! | 17:24 |
armax | mestery: oh, I was going to spin another PS :P | 17:24 |
* armax kidding | 17:24 | |
marun | :) | 17:24 |
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jlibosva | armax: ihrachyshka +1 for Monday morning | 17:24 |
dougwig | i think armax wins for most consensus spec this cycle. | 17:25 |
dougwig | contentious | 17:25 |
jlibosva | also +1 for beer | 17:25 |
mestery | ++ to armax! | 17:25 |
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mestery | jlibosva: Include me for Monday too | 17:25 |
armax | ihrachyshka, jlibosva okay..I’ll reach out on irc on Monday | 17:25 |
jlibosva | mestery: sure | 17:25 |
armax | and we’ll clean this up | 17:25 |
jlibosva | ack, thanks | 17:25 |
ihrachyshka | + | 17:26 |
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mestery | armax: I think I owe you dinner and beer for that plugin decomp spec, nice work and great job building consensus and being responsive to people's comments! | 17:26 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Proposal for Neutron core and vendor code decomposition https://review.openstack.org/134680 | 17:26 |
armax | :) | 17:26 |
mestery | Yay! ^^^^ | 17:27 |
armax | mestery: I am cautiosly optmistic | 17:27 |
armax | :) | 17:27 |
mestery | :P | 17:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Praveen Kumar SM proposed openstack/neutron-specs: DHCP Service LoadBalancing Scheduler https://review.openstack.org/111210 | 17:30 |
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ihrachyshka | dougwig: I just wonder why you use -1 in case we just need to wait? :) | 17:34 |
ihrachyshka | dougwig: it's easier to just wait, no? ;) | 17:34 |
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pc_m | mestery: ping | 17:36 |
mestery | pc_m: yo! | 17:37 |
pc_m | mestery: Had a procedural question on reviews/approvals... for the VPN change that ihrachyshka has in, we need to wait for test runs (but it looks fine). | 17:37 |
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pc_m | mestery: What do you suggest we do on those? Do a +1, do a +2 and just don't approve yet? | 17:38 |
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pc_m | Ref: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141428/ | 17:38 |
mestery | pc_m: +2, but don't approve until Jenkins is happy, and wait for another +2, I'll look now | 17:38 |
pc_m | mestery: Thanks! | 17:38 |
mestery | And wait for dougwig's -1 to disappear too ;) | 17:38 |
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pc_m | Yeah, it was Ihar's prompting above that had me wondering. | 17:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Set timeout for functional job https://review.openstack.org/141441 | 17:43 |
dougwig | ihrachyshka: re: oslo, i was thinking that they'd have their own oslo modules (only what they need), since if you include them from neutron, you have to coordinate oslo updates in neutron to not break the service repos (each change would require 1 neutron change, then 3 service changes, then a final neutron change to delete). | 17:44 |
carl_baldwin | pc_m_away: ping | 17:44 |
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marun | armax: thoughts on adding an upper bound to test execution time? | 17:48 |
marun | armax: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141441/1/tox.ini | 17:48 |
ihrachyshka | dougwig: it breaks stuff rarely, while the bug fixing is easier with single copy | 17:48 |
ihrachyshka | also, we move quickly out of incubator code | 17:48 |
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marun | armax: wondering whether it should be set for all tests or just the functional | 17:49 |
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marun | armax: we may need to override for api, but unit/functional are probably fine sharing an upper bound. | 17:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Add functional tests for IptablesManager using tcp/udp https://review.openstack.org/120349 | 17:51 |
openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Add Process class helper to manage processes with namespace https://review.openstack.org/122207 | 17:51 |
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armax | marun: I thought this was controlled by the job that ran the tests itself | 17:53 |
armax | marun: but specifiying this in tox would work just as well | 17:53 |
armax | marun: lgtm | 17:54 |
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marun | armax: jlibosva is proposing to avoid test-specific timeouts. he was adding some in the iptables tests to ensure that connectivity problems didn't stall the test run | 17:54 |
marun | armax: so, more for dev execution than gate | 17:54 |
marun | armax: ok, +2 it is :) | 17:54 |
armax | marun: right, understood, it’s two levels of timeouts | 17:54 |
armax | marun: one per test, the other per entire suite | 17:55 |
armax | marun: correct? | 17:55 |
marun | armax: ah, right | 17:55 |
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marun | armax: gate is total time for all tests? | 17:55 |
armax | marun: ya | 17:55 |
marun | armax: It must be a really high limit! | 17:55 |
marun | armax: yeah, this is per-test. | 17:55 |
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armax | marun: I think it’s minutes, but it’s set on the jenkins job runtime | 17:56 |
marun | armax: the option has always been in our base test class: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/sub_base.py#L74 | 17:56 |
marun | armax: ok | 17:56 |
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armax | marun: right, but no matter what, if the build time is over a certain limit, jenkins will abort the run | 17:57 |
marun | armax: so it makes sense to limit time per-test too, so that a single bad test doesn't spoil the party for everyone | 17:57 |
armax | marun: agreed | 17:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Move non-bridge-related OVSBridge methods to BaseOVS https://review.openstack.org/141134 | 18:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: L3 Agent restructure - observer hierarchy https://review.openstack.org/136549 | 18:23 |
openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add developer documentation for plugins/drivers contributions https://review.openstack.org/141171 | 18:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Ed Bak proposed openstack/neutron: Allocate segment id from a pool of available ids https://review.openstack.org/141453 | 18:28 |
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armax | marun: ah, cuba’s patch fails the functional job: https://jenkins05.openstack.org/job/check-neutron-dsvm-functional/2737/console | 18:34 |
armax | marun: it sounds like 25s is too stringent even for the current set of tests | 18:35 |
marun | armax: arg, I guess the test timeout was for the whole run. | 18:35 |
marun | armax: might as well abandon then | 18:35 |
armax | marun: no | 18:35 |
armax | marun: only one test failed | 18:35 |
marun | armax: or set to 60s? | 18:35 |
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armax | see console output | 18:35 |
marun | router failover, right | 18:35 |
marun | weird | 18:36 |
marun | looks like it ran and then failed after | 18:36 |
armax | marun: 60 is conservative | 18:36 |
armax | enough | 18:36 |
marun | armax: I guess we can leave it at 60. I'm guessing we're going to have tests that exceed that (I'm thinking fulls-tack) | 18:38 |
marun | armax: but we can bump when needed | 18:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Add metadata proxy L3 agent driver https://review.openstack.org/137672 | 18:41 |
openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Generate testr_results.html for neutron functional job https://review.openstack.org/140851 | 18:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Add metadata proxy L3 agent driver https://review.openstack.org/137672 | 18:44 |
openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Generate testr_results.html for neutron functional job https://review.openstack.org/140851 | 18:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add developer documentation for plugins/drivers contributions https://review.openstack.org/141171 | 19:27 |
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pc_m | carl_baldwin: pong | 19:30 |
carl_baldwin | pc_m: I hope its okay that I updated your patch. | 19:31 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: sure no problem. This is the L3 restructure in Neutron? | 19:31 |
carl_baldwin | Yes, the one that we’d like to get in soon to unblock the patches in the other two repos. | 19:32 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: no problem at all... goal is to get this all done. No problem with sharing. | 19:32 |
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pc_m | I've got a pair of reviews and then will talk to doug about what I can help with on VPN/FW w.r.t. getting UTs going and the like, | 19:33 |
carl_baldwin | pc_m: Sounds good. | 19:33 |
pc_m | let me know if there is anything else I need to focus on as well... I'm here to help | 19:34 |
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carl_baldwin | pc_m: Thanks. | 19:43 |
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reed | I modified the Nova specs dashboard for Neutron, since the deadline for approval is Monda: https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/?foreach=project%3A%5Eopenstack%2Fneutron-specs+status%3Aopen+NOT+owner%3Aself+NOT+label%3AWorkflow%3C%3D-1+label%3AVerified%3E%3D1%252cjenkins+NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3E%3D-2%252cself+branch%3Amaster&title=Neutron+Specs&&Your+are+a+reviewer%2C+but+haven%27t+voted+in+the+current+revision=reviewer%3Aself&Needs+final+%2B | 19:50 |
reed | 2=label%3ACode-Review%3E%3D2+NOT%28reviewerin%3Aneutron-specs-core+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D-1%29+limit%3A100&Passed+Jenkins%2C+Positive+Neutron-Core+Feedback=NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3E%3D2+%28reviewerin%3Aneutron-core+label%3ACode-Review%3E%3D1%29+NOT%28reviewerin%3Aneutron-core+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D-1%29+limit%3A100&Passed+Jenkins%2C+No+Positive+Neutron-Core+Feedback%2C+No+Negative+Feedback=NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D-1+NOT+label%3ACode-Rev | 19:50 |
reed | iew%3E%3D2+NOT%28reviewerin%3Aneutron-core+label%3ACode-Review%3E%3D1%29+limit%3A100&Wayward+Changes+%28Changes+with+no+code+review+in+the+last+7+days%29=NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D2+age%3A7d&Some+negative+feedback%2C+might+still+be+worth+commenting=label%3ACode-Review%3D-1+NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3D-2+limit%3A100&Dead+Specs=label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D-2 | 19:50 |
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reed | mestery, is the deadline to approve Kilo specs confirmed for this coming Monday? | 19:59 |
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Dgeyski | Hi, is it possible to launch instances with ipv6 on Juno using Legacy mode ? | 20:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for converting from ovs-vsctl calls to OVSDB https://review.openstack.org/140185 | 20:13 |
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marun | mestery: The spec for adding direct ovsdb interaction to ovslib looks good to me, but hasn't received any love from drivers yet: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140185/ | 20:18 |
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Dgeyski | no one can help me? | 20:19 |
pc_m | vishwanathj: ping | 20:19 |
Dgeyski | is it possible to launch instances with ipv6 on Juno using Legacy mode ? | 20:20 |
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haleyb | Dgeyski: first, please ask once and not every 5 minutes. second, have you tried it and it didn't work? It should | 20:23 |
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Dgeyski | haleyb : No i didn't try it because i m trying to do my own architecture and i would like to know without testing if it is possible to do it. I did somes reseach on the web but i didn't find the answer :/ | 20:25 |
ZZelle_ | haleyb, hi | 20:25 |
ZZelle_ | haleyb, for your information https://review.openstack.org/141045 | 20:26 |
haleyb | ZZelle: hi | 20:26 |
ZZelle_ | mestery, hi | 20:27 |
haleyb | ZZelle: yes, saw that. One question - do we also need your other mark/match patch with that since it will allow from anywhere with that ACCEPT rule? | 20:27 |
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ZZelle_ | haleyb, yes | 20:28 |
ZZelle_ | haleyb, i just realize both changes will conflict as they change the same rule | 20:29 |
ZZelle_ | i will add https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141045 after https://review.openstack.org/133484 | 20:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Ed Bak proposed openstack/neutron: Allocate segment id from a pool of available ids https://review.openstack.org/141453 | 20:30 |
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ZZelle_ | haleyb, no, before is better otherwise the drop rule is useless | 20:32 |
ZZelle_ | until both are merged | 20:33 |
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pc_m | vishwanathj: carl_baldwin: ping on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136953/8/specs/kilo/brocade-vyatta-fwaas-plugin.rst | 20:34 |
carl_baldwin | pc_m: pong | 20:35 |
vishwanathj | pc_m, Hi | 20:35 |
pc_m | vishwanathj: My concerns are in L63-64, indicating that the Vyatta L3 Nat Agent extends the Neutron L3 agent. | 20:36 |
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natarajk | pc_m: Hi Paul | 20:36 |
pc_m | vishwanathj: So will the Vyatta agent be another L3 agent process? | 20:36 |
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pc_m | natarajk: hi | 20:37 |
vishwanathj | natarajk, hi | 20:37 |
natarajk | pc_m: instead of running default l3 agent, we will run vyatta l3 agent | 20:37 |
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pc_m | We're trying to separate the service agents from the L3 agent as part of the refactoring process, so wondering how this fits in with that restructuring. | 20:38 |
natarajk | Once refactoring is complete, we can derive from FWaaS agent | 20:39 |
pc_m | natarajk: So how would this work for a user that wants to use both the reference FW and the Vyatta one? | 20:39 |
natarajk | pc_m: ServiceTypeFramework is not supported in FWaaS framework | 20:39 |
natarajk | pc_m: There is no service driver support like VPN framework in firewall framework | 20:40 |
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natarajk | pc_m: Currenly operator configures the driver in fwaas_driver.init file | 20:41 |
natarajk | .ini file | 20:41 |
pc_m | natarajk: Although FWaaS and VPN abandoned STF work, there does need to be a way to support multiple drivers in the future, no? | 20:42 |
* pc_m flavors | 20:42 | |
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natarajk | pc_m: Yes, we can align with flavors framework | 20:42 |
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pc_m | natarajk: Trying to understand how this will support that. | 20:43 |
natarajk | pc_m: When flavors framework is introduced, there will be some changes in FWaaS framework | 20:43 |
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natarajk | pc_m: We would need to adopt that | 20:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Allow IptablesManager to manage mangle table https://review.openstack.org/135203 | 20:46 |
openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Allow to request metadata proxy only with redirection https://review.openstack.org/133484 | 20:46 |
pc_m | natarajk: So toady, the Vyatta agent would replace the L3 agent. In the future it would derive from the FWaaS agent. Is that correct? | 20:46 |
ZZelle_ | haleyb, ^^ corrected (ninja change chaining) | 20:46 |
natarajk | pc_m: Correct | 20:46 |
natarajk | pc_m: We just need to get router interface updates from the L3 agent | 20:47 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: you ok with ^^^ | 20:48 |
natarajk | pc_m: When FWaaS agent is refactored, we could derive from that to get the router interface updates | 20:48 |
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pc_m | natarajk: The only thing that was really concerning me was the mention of the inheritance, as we're in the middle of trying to break that. | 20:49 |
carl_baldwin | natarajk: Note that the FWaaS agent will only be a very small stub left. There may be nothing left to override. The FW advanced service class is what you’re likely to be more interested in. | 20:49 |
natarajk | carl_baldwin: Ok. Once the refactoring is complete, we will do that | 20:50 |
carl_baldwin | I guess it just boils down to semantics. It won’t be an agent, it will be a service. To me, an agent is a process on its own and a service will be an observer of the L3 agent. | 20:50 |
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carl_baldwin | natarajk: I was thinking VPNaaS. Actually the FW agent will not exist. | 20:50 |
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pc_m | carl_baldwin: Right. Today, the FW agent is part of the L3 agent process. They are replacing that process with another one. | 20:51 |
natarajk | carl_baldwin: Currently we are overring router_added, router_removed | 20:51 |
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natarajk | overring -> overriding | 20:51 |
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pc_m | I guess my point of contention is with L63-64, as it seems like it is not in alignment with where we are going with the refactoring. | 20:54 |
haleyb | ZZelle: i will take a look, just thinking that the two rules were there (redirect to 127, accept from 127) to not allow to router IP, which didn't work of course | 20:55 |
pc_m | natarajk: Don't want to see you folks changing mid stream. | 20:55 |
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natarajk | pc_m: Can we rephrase it like " Vyatta L3 agent uses L3 NAT agent" and then align with the refactoring ? | 20:56 |
ZZelle_ | haleyb, i am wondering if we should not change default INPUT policy in router namespace | 20:56 |
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ZZelle_ | haleyb, but it's difficult for me to see the impact on VPNaas LBaas | 20:56 |
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haleyb | ZZelle_: yes, you basically want to make it so you can't login to it, it can only forward/proxy | 20:57 |
natarajk | pc_m: Understand your concern: That's why we have added L80-83 | 20:57 |
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ZZelle_ | haleyb, imo, it's strange to have ACCEPT as default input/output policy on a router | 21:00 |
pc_m | natarajk: Yes, I saw that. It gave me the impression that this was only a device driver change and no impact. | 21:00 |
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pc_m | natarajk: Whereas, I was concerned about the L3 agent extension. | 21:00 |
openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Generate testr_results.html for neutron functional job https://review.openstack.org/140851 | 21:01 |
pc_m | natarajk: Probaby just me worrying about semantics of the wording. | 21:01 |
natarajk | pc_m: Can we just say "Vyatta L3 agent uses L3 NAT agent" for now | 21:01 |
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pc_m | natarajk: That would be better for me. | 21:01 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: Does this sound OK? | 21:02 |
* carl_baldwin is reading... | 21:02 | |
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carl_baldwin | natarajk: pc_m: That sounds fine. | 21:02 |
vishwanathj | pc_m, natarajk, carl_baldwin, Thanks | 21:03 |
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vishwanathj | pc_m, Did I address your other comments satisfactorily | 21:03 |
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pc_m | yeah I think I'm OK with those. I was -1'ing on this agent part. I responded on the review. If you can update, I'm OK with it. | 21:04 |
natarajk | pc_m_carl_baldwin: Thanks | 21:04 |
vishwanathj | pc_m, thanks a bunch, I will upload a new patch set shortly | 21:04 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: Maybe you can provide your comments on the review too, if you get a chance? | 21:05 |
* pc_m waiting for carl to catch up on the discussion to see if he is OK with this... | 21:05 | |
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ZZelle_ | salv-orl_, hi | 21:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Adolfo Duarte proposed openstack/neutron: Added test_dvr_router_lifecycle to cover dvr https://review.openstack.org/138632 | 21:13 |
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pc_m | carl_baldwin: question for you on this commit chain... | 21:17 |
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carl_baldwin | pc_m: ready | 21:18 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: So 130300 was upstreamed, right? When I update 136549, how do I handle that? Do I just rebase to master? | 21:18 |
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otherwiseguy | armax: Thanks for the review of the ovsdb spec. Re: your comment, since the option of ovsdb interface to use is to be configurable, both old and new interfaces should be available for any distributions or deployment targets that don't support the requirements for the proposed version. Is there an additional guarantee you are looking for, or do I just need to make that a little more explicit in the spec? | 21:20 |
carl_baldwin | pc_m: looking... | 21:20 |
armax | otherwiseguy: thanks for the quick reply. No I am good with your explaination, it’s up to you if you want to be more explicit in the spec | 21:21 |
vishwanathj | pc_m, I provided my comments on the review too | 21:21 |
armax | otherwiseguy: so long as the implementation allows for a smooth transition then I am good | 21:21 |
pc_m | vishwanathj: OK | 21:21 |
armax | otherwiseguy: obviosuly if we made that clear in the spec, we’re sure not to forget ;) | 21:21 |
carl_baldwin | So, 130300 was merged. You don’t need to do anything special with 136549. Don’t rebase if you don’t have to. | 21:21 |
pc_m | vishwanathj: Let me know when another version is up and I can look at it. | 21:21 |
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otherwiseguy | armax: I'll spin out a new version with an extra line detailing that. | 21:22 |
armax | otherwiseguy: much obliged | 21:22 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: So just update and push? Don't need to rebase w/master? | 21:22 |
carl_baldwin | Not unless there is a conflict with something else on master. | 21:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Smith proposed openstack/neutron: L3 Agent support for routers with HA and DVR https://review.openstack.org/139686 | 21:23 |
pc_m | carl_baldwin: OK. On the _process_updated_router/_process_added_router, any suggestions on naming? | 21:24 |
pc_m | I expect that we may dissolve that back into the caller later. | 21:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Generate testr_results.html for neutron functional job https://review.openstack.org/140851 | 21:26 |
armax | marun: ^^^ | 21:26 |
carl_baldwin | pc_m: No, I think it is fine. Near future refactoring will make it clearer. | 21:27 |
pc_m | gotcha. | 21:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for converting from ovs-vsctl calls to OVSDB https://review.openstack.org/140185 | 21:29 |
mtreinish | armax: reviewed, you forgot to change the filename :) | 21:29 |
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otherwiseguy | armax: marun: ^^^ :) | 21:30 |
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openstackgerrit | vishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for Brocade Vyatta Firewall Driver https://review.openstack.org/136953 | 21:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Sridar Kandaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-specs: FWaaS Insertion Model on a Single Router https://review.openstack.org/138672 | 21:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Sridar Kandaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-specs: FWaaS Insertion Model on a Single Router https://review.openstack.org/138672 | 21:38 |
vishwanathj | pc_m, uploaded the patch | 21:38 |
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pc_m | vishwanathj: Yeah, saw it and reviewed. | 21:39 |
vishwanathj | pc_m, thanks | 21:39 |
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pc_m | vishwanathj: Thanks for addressing my concerns. | 21:39 |
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vishwanathj | pc_m, your feedback was valuable and conerns were valid, thanks a bunch for helping resolve | 21:39 |
pc_m | vishwanathj: Sure, np at all | 21:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add support for subnet allocation https://review.openstack.org/135771 | 21:48 |
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mestery | marun: I'll review said spec this weekend | 21:52 |
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haleyb | carl_baldwin: i had a comment on miguel's change, just sending it now | 21:56 |
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haleyb | you might think it's just a bug, but that defer on/off location worries me a bit | 21:57 |
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carl_baldwin | haleyb: looking... | 21:58 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Spec for converting from ovs-vsctl calls to OVSDB https://review.openstack.org/140185 | 21:58 |
carl_baldwin | haleyb: Good catch. | 21:59 |
haleyb | if we never call defer_apply_off() the iptables manager will get stuck and not apply anything | 21:59 |
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haleyb | i don't know how it worked before being under an if | 21:59 |
carl_baldwin | I remember wondering why defer apply isn’t implemented as a context manager. | 21:59 |
haleyb | carl_baldwin: i just don't know why it's where it is, looks like someone did it for a reason | 22:00 |
haleyb | yes, the firewall code does it that way i think | 22:00 |
carl_baldwin | Still thinking about it. I haven’t come to a conclusion yet. | 22:01 |
haleyb | oh, it wants the rules there before it configured the IPs | 22:01 |
carl_baldwin | haleyb: right, there does seem to be a reason for the flush. | 22:01 |
mestery | marun: Looks like armax beat me to the punch there for that spec. | 22:01 |
haleyb | maybe we need to split that method up into rules/addresses pieces to do the apply | 22:02 |
ZZelle_ | mestery, hi | 22:02 |
haleyb | carl_baldwin: with all the code under the try: which callee is it trying to catch? :) | 22:03 |
carl_baldwin | haleyb: I was wondering that myself. | 22:03 |
ZZelle_ | mestery, if you have some times, could you look at the stateless nat spec (https://review.openstack.org/138201)? | 22:03 |
haleyb | i think the iptables code could possibly throw if an error occurs | 22:03 |
marun | mestery: merged, no worries :) | 22:03 |
mestery | marun: Yeah ;) | 22:03 |
mestery | ZZelle_: I'm going through specs now, apologies but I've been swamped this week post mid-cycle :) | 22:04 |
mestery | ZZelle: I do like the idea of the stateless NAT spec though ;) | 22:04 |
* mestery notices there are two ZZelle ZZelle_'s | 22:04 | |
pc_m | dougwig: ping | 22:04 |
carl_baldwin | haleyb: This patch doesn’t seem to introduce the problem. I wonder if we should leave it like it is for this refactor and add another patch to clean this up. | 22:05 |
dougwig | pc_m: ack | 22:05 |
pc_m | dougwig: Finally caught up from trip. Have a minute to chat about VPN UTs? | 22:05 |
ZZelle_ | mestery, ZZelle is my evil me :) | 22:05 |
carl_baldwin | haleyb: I’m thinking it would be nice to use a “with ri.iptables_manager.defer_apply():” and then add a flush call to it before adding the addresses. | 22:06 |
dougwig | yes. do you have cycles to get them rolling? | 22:06 |
haleyb | carl_baldwin: that's fine, you could even assign the bug to me | 22:06 |
mestery | marun: Can you review this one from rustlebee https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140165/ | 22:06 |
marun | mestery: will do | 22:06 |
mestery | marun: It's a good improvement and I'd like to merge it :) | 22:06 |
mestery | ZZelle_: rofl ;) | 22:06 |
carl_baldwin | haleyb: Go for it. | 22:06 |
pc_m | dougwig: Yes, I can work on it. | 22:06 |
ZZelle_ | mestery, yes, mid cycle + SAD + k1 ... we will envoy christmas holidays | 22:06 |
pc_m | dougwig: What is needed? Do I rename the tests.skip dir and then fix imports and get it working? | 22:07 |
carl_baldwin | haleyb: It could be done as part of the whole effort. | 22:07 |
ZZelle_ | ss/envoy/enjoy | 22:07 |
* mestery notes there is no Christmas holiday for the PTL this year | 22:07 | |
mestery | So much going on ... nuts | 22:07 |
mestery | ZZelle_: Couple that with a new baby ... BOOM! | 22:07 |
haleyb | carl_baldwin: that's even easier :) I'll fix it after that merges | 22:07 |
dougwig | pc_m: yes, plus a few minor tweaks. see blogan's patch for the magic you'll need for it to find policy.son: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141272/ | 22:07 |
mestery | armax: Have a look at this spec from carl_baldwin, I'd really like to see this in Kilo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135771/ | 22:08 |
pc_m | dougwig: OK, will do. I'll start on this right after dinner, and then will continue over the weekend some. | 22:08 |
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dougwig | pc_m: ok, great. | 22:09 |
pc_m | dougwig: Is the cahnge the __init__.py stuff? | 22:10 |
dougwig | pc_m: yes | 22:10 |
pc_m | cok. | 22:10 |
pc_m | ok | 22:11 |
ZZelle_ | mestery, BOOM, what a strange name for a baby :) | 22:11 |
mestery | ZZelle_: rofl | 22:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Smith proposed openstack/neutron: manual add/remove router for dvr_snat agent https://review.openstack.org/122024 | 22:20 |
openstackgerrit | Ed Bak proposed openstack/neutron: Allocate segment id from a pool of available ids https://review.openstack.org/141453 | 22:31 |
openstackgerrit | Ed Bak proposed openstack/neutron: Allocate segment id from a pool of available ids https://review.openstack.org/141453 | 22:34 |
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marun | mestery: merge away https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140165/ | 22:38 |
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mestery | marun: Thanks! | 22:38 |
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reed | mestery, the deadline to approve specs for kilo is confirmed on Monday? | 22:53 |
mestery | reed: That's the plan, yes. For some community priority items, we may give an exception, but in general Monday is the last day. | 22:54 |
reed | mestery, ok, just checking so I prepare in case people ask for exceptions | 22:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron: L3 Agent restructure - observer hierarchy https://review.openstack.org/136549 | 22:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Catch duplicate errors scheduling SNAT service https://review.openstack.org/128857 | 23:59 |
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