Thursday, 2015-01-22

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openstackgerritMichael Smith proposed openstack/neutron: Initialize dist_fip_count after agent restart  https://review.openstack.org/12487900:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add ovsdb-related functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/14667000:05
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openstackgerritManish Godara proposed openstack/neutron: Add filter for provider network attributes  https://review.openstack.org/12491700:25
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openstackgerritSachi King proposed openstack/neutron: If router is HA, get current_cidrs from keepalived object  https://review.openstack.org/13993200:29
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openstackgerritKyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: Use constants from networking_odl project  https://review.openstack.org/14909600:37
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openstackgerritKyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: Use constants from networking_odl project  https://review.openstack.org/14909600:49
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openstackgerritJuergen Brendel proposed openstack/neutron: Close ARP spoofing vulnerability  https://review.openstack.org/14113000:54
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openstackgerritJustin Hammond proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Client command extension support  https://review.openstack.org/14909800:57
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openstackgerritJustin Hammond proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Client command extension support  https://review.openstack.org/14909800:58
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Use constants from networking_odl project  https://review.openstack.org/14909601:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/14864601:19
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: WIP Basic subnetpool CRUD. Do not merge  https://review.openstack.org/14869801:33
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openstackgerritWei Wang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix duplicate entry catch for allowed address pairs  https://review.openstack.org/12400401:51
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openstackgerritgongysh proposed openstack/neutron: Mentions networking_odl in REDAME.odl  https://review.openstack.org/14912202:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Improve agent-based flat/vlan ml2 port binding failure logging  https://review.openstack.org/12511504:49
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR qrouters not created on compute Node when vm added  https://review.openstack.org/14914304:58
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Fix static strings with labels for DVR  https://review.openstack.org/14356805:07
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openstackgerritKyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: Use constants from networking_odl project  https://review.openstack.org/14909605:21
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openstackgerritDavid J Hu proposed openstack/neutron: Support neutron_admin in policy.json  https://review.openstack.org/14915105:40
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openstackgerritHirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Fix filter to check admin_state_up of l3_agent  https://review.openstack.org/14882105:43
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openstackgerritWei Wang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix duplicate entry catch for allowed address pairs  https://review.openstack.org/12400405:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: DHCP agent restructuring  https://review.openstack.org/14602405:59
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14915906:11
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openstackgerrityalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: add the default value for the existing_floating_ips  https://review.openstack.org/14886206:16
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openstackgerritTrinath Somanchi proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Freescale FWaaS Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/14888406:47
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openstackgerritTrinath Somanchi proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Freescale FWaaS Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/14888407:07
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openstackgerritTrinath Somanchi proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Freescale FWaaS Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/14888407:16
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mariosajo: ping, sorry man was late yesterday and forgot07:24
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mariosajo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136834/ FYI07:24
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openstackgerritKanzhe Jiang proposed openstack/neutron: Ignore 404 error and lower a warning log to info  https://review.openstack.org/14917207:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14915908:32
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openstackgerritXu Han Peng proposed openstack/neutron: Remove qg from router namespace for DVR migration  https://review.openstack.org/14918708:53
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ajohi marios np08:55
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ajothanks08:55
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openstackgerritZhang Hua proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: vpn namespace wrapper  https://review.openstack.org/14650808:57
openstackgerritZhang Hua proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: IPsec strongSwan driver implemention  https://review.openstack.org/14439108:57
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ajomarios, what other thing keeps you busy, we need you! (ehem, your functional testing) ;D09:19
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openstackgerritAdolfo Duarte proposed openstack/neutron: Added test_dvr_router_lifecycle to cover dvr  https://review.openstack.org/13863209:30
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openstackgerritYoni Shafrir proposed openstack/neutron: Deleting HA router with attached port causes DB inconsistencies  https://review.openstack.org/14426009:39
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Remove useless constant from l3 agent module  https://review.openstack.org/14919709:42
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Move shared metadata driver related config options  https://review.openstack.org/14743609:44
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openstackgerritStepan Rogov proposed openstack/neutron: Creta cuestom package witch vSphere DVS plugin  https://review.openstack.org/14920610:19
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not run neutron-ns-metadata-proxy as root on dhcp agent  https://review.openstack.org/14743710:30
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openstackgerritYoni Shafrir proposed openstack/neutron: Deleting HA router with attached port causes DB inconsistencies  https://review.openstack.org/14426011:22
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ZemeioHi guys. I am working on a mechanism driver and strugling to create my DB. It does not create the tables. I could put a create_all on my initialize, but I don't know if that is the proper way, can anyone help me on this matter>11:33
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Implements ProcessMonitor in the dhcp_agent  https://review.openstack.org/11593512:02
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trinathsHi Guys. I get this error for python-openstackclient install with pip. http://paste.openstack.org/show/160233/ The python-cinderclient is present in pypi.python.org for the latest version. but still I get this error12:15
trinathsany guidence on the same to resolve it.12:16
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amotokitrinaths: hmm.. i cannot repro the problem. pip install 'python-openstackclient>=1.0.0' succeeds in a fresh vritualenv on ubuntu 14.04.12:26
amotokitrinaths: python-cinderclient==1.1.1 was installed.12:26
Zemeiotrinaths: if you try to install it manually does it succeed?12:26
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trinathsamotoki: I tried that way. But was not successful. All other packages were downloaded but this particular package is creating the trouble.12:29
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trinathsamotoki: I update the pip conf with this index-url, https://pypi-preview.a.ssl.fastly.net/user/openstackci/ not its okay.. checking with devstack.12:29
trinathsThanks for the reply and help amotoki and Zemeio :)12:29
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trinathstypo: now12:31
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amotokitrinaths: I don't use any pip.conf. accoridng to my pip cache, cinderclient is downloaded from https://pypi.python.org12:31
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trinathsamotoki: initially pip.conf is necessary for first download I think.12:34
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trinathsafter the initial download, the cache is queried. as I understand (might be wrong too)12:35
amotokitrinaths: pip has the default config values which points to PyPI mirror by default12:35
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amotokiso there is no need for pip.conf12:35
amotokiunless you want to customize/improve your python package donwloads.12:36
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trinathsamotoki: but then, In my ci, on installation, pip based downloads filed due to pip index-url pointing to, https://pypi.openstack.org/pypi12:39
trinathsamotoki: then I changed that URL to pypi.python.org/pypi. and installation were done well12:40
amotokitrinaths: am not familiar with pip.conf detail. I don't use pip.conf in our ci.12:40
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trinathsamotoki: okay .. :)12:40
amotokitrinaths: (another tips) I reuses pip caches under PIP_DOWNLOAD_CACHE envvar to minimize download Python packages in CI env.12:42
amotokionly for new python packages will be downloaded actually in each devstack run.12:42
trinathsamotoki: oh!. will look into this once. That might really help me minimize the time for each run12:42
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trinathsamotoki:  can u check the ci, directory for .pip directory. It contains the pip.conf12:44
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amotokitrinaths: my side jenkins jobs keep git repo collection and pip cache and create tarball. waht need to be done in each devstack run download tarball and just update to the latest.12:45
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trinathsamotoki: okay. you have a jenkins job specifically for that12:46
trinaths?12:46
amotokitrinaths: yes I have some side jobs for them.   and I have some preparation scripts which is run before devstack.12:47
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trinathsamotoki: okay. That way its a localized environment to take care. Thanks for the idea.12:48
openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Add option to remove networks from dead DHCP agents  https://review.openstack.org/13115012:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Use constants from networking_odl project  https://review.openstack.org/14909613:19
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Default security group table  https://review.openstack.org/14210113:33
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openstackgerritSylvain Afchain proposed openstack/neutron: Apply Floating NAT only on the external interface  https://review.openstack.org/12520313:33
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HenryGarosen: yamamoto: ping13:34
yamamotoHenryG: pong13:34
HenryGyamamoto: Quick question at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136238/18/neutron/api/v2/attributes.py13:34
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HenryGsalv-orlando: Maybe you can weigh in on the ApiImpact policy here ^^ ?13:35
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Default security group table  https://review.openstack.org/14210113:38
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openstackgerritenikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor retry mechanism used in some DB operations  https://review.openstack.org/14926113:46
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yamamotoHenryG: replied13:47
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enikanorovZZelle: hi13:48
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htrutaamuller (and others): hey! just got back to the same problem of yesterday. Still can't ping nor ssh a neutron vm14:18
htrutait starts normally, gets the static ip... I enabled the security group rules but still got no communication14:19
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amullerhtruta: Can you access the VM via the console?14:20
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htrutano. the console is not shown either14:20
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Move process monitor settings to neutron.conf AGENT section  https://review.openstack.org/14926614:21
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amullerhtruta: So we don't know if the VM actually got an IP address. The GUI and CLI just show that an IP was allocation in the DB14:22
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amullerBut a lot of things can go wrong which would prohibit the VM from getting its IP14:22
amullerhtruta: I would advise you to utilize ask.openstack.org14:22
amullerPost a question as detailed as possible, that place is really responsive14:23
amulleryou'll be asked to post output of different commands, logs, etc14:23
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htrutaamuller: great. I'll try that. thanks14:24
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openstackgerritElena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Add index on allocated  https://review.openstack.org/14861714:34
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rmartyn(14:30:44) Ross Martyn: Hi, anyone want to take a stab at a Neutron issue?14:39
rmartyn(14:30:44) Ross Martyn: (neutron subnet-create --disable-dhcp public 5.154.115.223/31)14:39
rmartyn(14:30:44) Ross Martyn: Presents me with "Gateway is not valid on subnet."14:39
rmartyn(14:30:44) Ross Martyn:  I should get 5.154.115.222 as a gateway right?14:39
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amullerrmartyn: /31 means there's no address available for a gateway14:43
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rmartyna /31 is 2 addresses. Are you saying I need three?14:44
amuller2 addresses is enough for the network ID and broadcast14:44
amullerso there's nothing left for any devices such as the gateway or VMs14:44
amullerso you need a larger subnet14:45
rmartynI used this same setup with VMware last week, the same addresses in a /31 using an endian appliance. Surely that should be a very similar setup? I am only using this small subnet for testing, but I thought a /31 would be sufficient!14:47
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: mlnx: untangle SecurityGroupAgentRpcMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14903314:49
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: mlnx: drop usage of SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14903414:49
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: sriovnicagent: drop usage of SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14905314:49
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: linuxbridge: drop usage of SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14902314:49
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: sriovnicagent: untangle SecurityGroupAgentRpcMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14905214:49
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: linuxbridge: untangle SecurityGroupAgentRpcMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14902214:49
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Drop SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14905414:49
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erenajo: ping14:50
amullerrmartyn: I'm not familiar with how the VMware plugins work14:50
ajohi eren , how're you doing :D14:50
ZZelleenikanorov, hi14:50
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erenajo: hey, just about to go crazy :)14:51
enikanorovZZelle: hi, take a look at alternative approach https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149261/14:51
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erenajo: I've looked at how fuel configured network, it's not much different from what I have but I realized a few sysctl.conf parameters14:51
* ZZelle looking :)14:52
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erenI realized that in the fuel installation, packets are also reconstructed in qbr, qvo, but they are fragmented before GRE14:52
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ajoeren, what's the diff on sysctl parameters?14:52
erenso, with a few sysctl config, I managed to get packets going even they are recosntructed in qbr14:52
ajoeren, nicee14:53
erenajo: + I lowered internal leg, btw14:53
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ZZelleenikanorov, is it compliant with multi-provider extension ?14:53
erenI believe I'm in the same configuration with you now14:53
ajoyes, otherwise inbound get's messed up14:53
ajoeren, can you share the sysctl diff which worked?14:53
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ajoI want to cross check my deployment14:53
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enikanorovZZelle: not sure i understand your concern14:54
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erenajo: it's not a diff14:54
erenI added those lines14:54
erenhttp://paste.debian.net/141779/14:54
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erenI don't know which affected what14:54
erenbut after this setting, packets went out in GRE tunnel from compute node14:54
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ZZelleenikanorov, when creating multiprovider network, you can create multiple segments in the same transaction14:54
erenreached out internal leg14:54
erenrouter tried to answer but failed14:54
erensu I lowered MTU in internal leg14:54
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erennow, ICMP packets are OK without disabling bridge-nf-call-iptables14:55
erenbut I have retransmission issues14:55
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enikanorovZZelle: well, this approach restarts whole method, so everything should be created in one pass without errors. e.g. if one of the segments needs retry - everything will be retried14:55
erenas a side note, if you listen tap interface with tshark, and tcpdump at the same time, ICMP doesn't work as well. Not sure if I hit this in the first place14:55
enikanorovZZelle: whole transaction i mean14:56
ajoeren, I don't understand how those parameters affect that,14:56
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ajotcpka are for HA14:56
ajothe nf-call ones should have been on in your deployment already14:56
ajoip_forward is expected to be on, yes14:56
ZZelleenikanorov, if you try to create a network with 2 segments14:56
erenajo: probably my stupidity, then, trying to listen the same interface with different tool14:57
erenI didn't have ip_forward on compute node, btw14:57
erenI pasted those lines on both compute and network14:57
ZZelleenikanorov, and first segment create succeed, the second segment create fails, the first segment won't be allocated as 1st transaction is broken, the 2nd transaction will retry to allocate both?14:58
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enikanorovZZelle: correct14:58
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erenajo: on compute node, the documentation didn't mention ip_forward=114:58
erenhttp://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron-compute-node.html14:58
ZZelleenikanorov, ok, it seems mostly fine (ie: only small nit)14:59
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enikanorovZZelle: yep, welcome to comment15:00
enikanorovthe decorator is a copypaste from nova, slightly modified15:00
erenajo: I'm not quite sure what affected it, but the current situation is ICMP is ok, a lot of TCP retransmissions. Tried with kernel upgrade15:00
erengro, tso off15:00
erenI'm just stuck now :(15:00
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ajoeren, checked in RDO, it's set too: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 115:01
ajofor the compute node15:01
ajoeren, tcp retransmissions are yet bad15:01
ajosomething not going well15:01
ajoI mean15:01
ajoeren I saw that, when not fragmenting my VMs traffic from inside the VM15:02
ajoand then leaving fragmenting to GRE/VXLAN15:02
ajoeren, your qbr should not be reassembling15:02
erenajo: hm, your qbr is not reassembling then, right?15:02
ajonot here15:02
ajoeren, let me dump you my sysctl15:03
ajoeren: http://www.fpaste.org/173047/38972142/15:03
erenajo: oh this is strange. When I'm running tcpdump ONLY on qbr, "ping -s 1430 10.0.0.1" works, "ping -s 1431" doesn't work15:04
erenbut when I stop dumping, -s 1431 starts working15:04
ajoif you ping without dumping at all?15:04
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erenajo: yeah, if I ping without dumping, all works15:05
erenqbr reconstructs them, I'm quite sure15:05
eren17:05:18.383647 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 3522, offset 0, flags [none], proto ICMP (1), length 3028)15:05
eren    10.0.0.12 > 10.0.0.1: ICMP echo request, id 1307, seq 5, length 300815:05
erenthis is the dump from qbr15:06
erenin tunnel interface, I see that those are fragmented15:06
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erenI guess that's why I failed in first investigation. How does listening qbr affect it?15:08
erenajo: can you confirm it in your setup?15:10
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erenajo: nailed it15:16
ajoeren, let me re-chec15:16
erenajo: ethtool -K eth0 tx off15:17
erenethtool -K eth1 tx off15:17
ajoah,15:17
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erenI need to off tx checksumming on both compute, and network15:17
ajoaha15:17
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ajoah, the GRE fragmentation was breaking it ?15:17
erennow I have 2.3Gbit traffic from VM to router15:17
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ajonice, I'm sure my qbr didn't reconstruct15:17
erenajo: dunno, I just disabled tx off on both interfaces (eth0, eth1) on both compute and network15:18
ajoand probably having that on is what made me tcp_retransmit15:18
ajowhen GRE did the fragmentation15:18
ajoprobably without updating the checksum properly15:18
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erenajo: now, I have the problem that everyone has15:20
eren70Mbit traffic from VM to outside15:20
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erenoh ok, that was normal15:20
erenour internal net was 100Mbit15:20
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erenprobably %30 GRE overhead15:21
erenand some losses15:21
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erennow I need to investigate why I have 2.3Gbit connection from VM to qrouter, that's a 10Gbit link15:22
erenajo: I am going to write my findings tomorrow on the list, btw15:23
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erenI'm amazed that just a bit set on eth configuration costed my 1 week15:24
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Implements ProcessMonitor in the dhcp_agent  https://review.openstack.org/11593515:38
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ajosalv-orlando: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149266/1/neutron/agent/common/config.py15:41
ajocan you reply there? :)15:41
ajoarmax suggested to move to AGENT section in neutron.conf, which makes a lot of sense15:42
ajoacutally is a thought I had before the christmas break, and I forgot about it15:42
ajothanks armax ;)15:42
armaxajo: no worries15:42
armaxajo: I was looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108272/15:43
ajoahh, yes, the lease patch15:43
armaxcan you confirm that your last suggestion about the dhcp user to run the init script is accepted?15:43
erenajo: do you have any idea about how tx checksum fixed this problem? I couldn't reason it15:43
armaxajo: I am cleaning up the grenade patch15:43
erenI just was seeing checksum errors in GRE traffic, though15:44
ajoarmax, I believe I got no reply for the script-user comment, did I ?15:44
ajorechecking15:44
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ajoarmax, does the comment make sense?15:44
armaxI’ll have another look15:44
ajoarmax, yes, I believe we should spawn python processes of ourselves as root very cautiously15:45
ajorootwrap is for that15:45
armaxajo: absolutely15:45
ajoand all the other config files are modified as "neutron" user15:45
ajoso, it makes sense to do that processing as the neutron user, or whatever the distro sets15:45
ajoand btw, I'd prefer to see a bash script15:45
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove useless constant from l3 agent module  https://review.openstack.org/14919715:45
ajoinstead of spawning python for that,15:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Don't log a warning if an iptables chain doesn't exist  https://review.openstack.org/14290215:46
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ajoarmax, given the dnsmasq documentation, I'm not even sure that the script is going to be called for every new lease too15:47
armaxoh15:47
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openstackgerritIlya Shakhat proposed openstack/neutron: Add missing Connection.close() method  https://review.openstack.org/14932115:48
ajoarmax, 1 min, looking at the dnsmasq source code15:48
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ajowhen documentation is not clear...15:48
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armaxajo: I posted a new PS for Grenade here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143299/15:49
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ZZellecarl_baldwin, hi15:50
ajoarmax, ack15:50
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armaxihrachyshka: ping ping15:53
ihrachyshkaarmax, pong pong15:53
armaxihrachyshka: ping ping pin15:53
armaxg15:53
armaxihrachyshka: hey :)15:53
ihrachyshkaETOOMUCHPINGS15:53
armaxihrachyshka: lol15:53
ihrachyshkawhatsup15:53
armaxihrachyshka: I wonder if you had a chance to have a quick look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148745/15:53
carl_baldwinZZelle: hi15:54
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armaxihrachyshka: hopefully that should make the process of backporting changes in this new brave world slightly clearer15:55
ihrachyshkaarmax, wow, I missed that one, thanks! I'll check it out for sure15:55
armaxihrachyshka: no worries15:55
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ZZellecarl_baldwin, on question about https://review.openstack.org/14341115:55
ZZelles/on/one15:55
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not run neutron-ns-metadata-proxy as root on dhcp agent  https://review.openstack.org/14743715:56
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ZZellecarl_baldwin, is there any intention to move namespace management and internal/external dev interface management from l3 agent to l3 router_info?15:58
openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Add OVSDB abstract API  https://review.openstack.org/14370915:58
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ZZellecarl_baldwin, ie: at the moment, it seems strange to move NS_PREFIX INTERNAL/EXTERNAL_DEV_PREFIX to router_info as it's mostly used in l3 agent module15:58
matrohongaryk, enikanorov : ping15:59
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carl_baldwinZZelle: I know.  All of that code is a moving target from now until k-216:01
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ajoarmax16:02
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carl_baldwinZZelle: All of that code will be moved out of the agent soon.16:02
ajoI see references to lease_change_command (dhcpscript internal name)16:02
ajoin dhcp_reply16:02
ajonot only at init16:02
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armaxok16:02
ajoso we have chances of this being called when a lease is renewed or issued16:02
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ajoarmax, may be the best is to actually check it , I will install the patch and play16:03
armaxajo: I was going to do the same16:03
armaxajo: you can never be too careful with these ones16:03
ajoarmax, yes16:03
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ajoarmax the dnsmasq code is *AWFUL16:03
ZZellecarl_baldwin, so i should wait until https://review.openstack.org/143411 is obsolete16:03
ZZelle?16:03
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armaxajo: can’t be worse than Neutron’s come on116:04
armax!16:04
ajodnsmasq author, if you are reading, functions can be split, no need to write 2000 line functions16:04
ajoarmax, neutron code is glory, compared16:04
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carl_baldwinZZelle: I know it is a pain, but yes, I think that would be best.16:04
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ZZellecarl_baldwin, ok16:04
ihrachyshkaarmax, I've checked the doc, please take a look16:05
armaxihrachyshka: thanks, I’ll take care of it16:05
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ihrachyshkaajo, yeah, it's awful. been there, suffered a lot16:06
ajoihrachyshka auch ;) really, why don't they like functions ? ;)16:06
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ihrachyshkaajo, functions are for sissies16:06
ajoarmax, ihrachyshka : I had a joke for code like this: you will always know what function is buggy16:06
openstackgerritElena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Test  https://review.openstack.org/14932816:07
ajoif you just have main()16:07
ajoX)16:07
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ihrachyshkaajo, that said, do we have alternatives? bind9 is too huge to apply.16:07
ajoihrachyshka, what it's unreadable doesn't mean it's bad, in the end it works16:07
ajoihrachyshka but I wouldn't like to deal with it's code16:08
ajoihrachyshka dhcp in openflow ;)16:08
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ajolol16:08
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ajoarmax, I'll tell you what I see later, I leave this stacking and I must be away for the next hour.16:10
armaxajo: I gotta go too…I’ll keep you posted16:10
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matrohoncan any core have a look at : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102543/16:11
matrohonI think it's ready to merge16:11
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enikanorov___jaypipes: hi16:26
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jaypipesenikanorov: hi!16:35
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enikanorov___jaypipes: could you please take a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149261/16:37
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matrohonenikanorov__ : hi16:42
enikanorov___matrohon: hi16:45
jaypipesenikanorov: sure thing :)16:45
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jaypipesenikanorov: review_stack.push(eugene) :)16:45
enikanorov___jaypipes: >:T16:46
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enikanorov___:)16:46
matrohonenikanorov__ : I was wondering if this bug could be bump from low to medium, and targeted for k2 : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/133429216:47
matrohonenikanorov__ : so that core can pay interets to it16:47
openstackgerritKanzhe Jiang proposed openstack/neutron: Ignore 404 error and lower a warning log to info  https://review.openstack.org/14917216:49
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enikanorov___matrohon: sure, done16:50
matrohonenikanorov__ : thanks16:50
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openstackgerritMichael Smith proposed openstack/neutron: This patch will be used to compare dvr vs full neturon runs  https://review.openstack.org/14189717:00
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pc_mmestery: ping17:26
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mesterypc_m: yo17:30
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anteayamestery: are you at the nova mid-cycle next week?17:31
mesteryanteaya: I am not, I am at HP Sunnyvale this week however :)17:31
anteaya:(17:31
anteayaI hope sunnyvale is wonderful this week17:31
mesteryanteaya: marun armax and markmcclain will be there17:31
mesteryanteaya: It is!17:32
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anteayamestery: okay good17:32
anteayamestery: glad to hear it17:32
mesteryanteaya: Yes, weather is nice, all-day meetings not so much :)17:32
ajogaryk: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149266/1/neutron/agent/common/config.py  <-- can you check the -1 here,17:32
ajoI believe you're wrong :)17:32
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anteayamestery: yay for good weather17:32
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anteayamestery: have you got your powerpoint sunglasses on?17:32
anteayashield your eyes17:33
mesteryanteaya: lol17:33
mesteryanteaya: That was yesterday, today is with mordred and friends, so less powerpoint, more etherpad :)17:33
anteayaah good17:33
anteayaall day meetings should include live guitar17:33
anteayathere must be music17:33
mesterylol17:33
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pc_mmestery: Have some questions for you on BPs and testing.17:34
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mesterypc_m: Ready and waiting sir17:34
pc_mmestery: Can BPs still be introduced for Kilo?17:34
pc_mmestery: Didn't know if the deadlines were for K2 or Kilo in general.17:35
mesterypc_m: New BPs can't be proposed for Kilo at this point. The deadline was in December for taht.17:35
mesterypc_m: What do you have you want to propose?17:35
pc_mmestery: As you know, there are no scenario tests for VPN.17:36
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pc_mmestery: Recently, I figured out a way to run DevStack with 2 pvt nets, and routers, and establish a VPN connection between them.17:37
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pc_mmestery: Was thinking of creating a scenario test for VPN to check basic operation.17:37
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pc_mThere was some old code that used two devstacks (I think) and a BP, but the BP was Icehouse and no work at all has been done on this for a year.17:38
mesterypc_m: For tests, we should loop marun in right away. There is movement afoot to move tempest tests from tempest into neutron :)17:38
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pc_mmestery: Will it require a BP (like what was done before)?17:39
pc_mmarun: ^^17:39
mesterypc_m: My guess is it will, but at first in tempest17:39
openstackgerritManish Godara proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor ml2 manager  https://review.openstack.org/14908817:39
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pc_mmestery: Well, if there is a way to do this for Kilo, I have BW to work on it (needing help obviously, as I don't know all the tempest stuff).17:41
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pc_mmestery: Otherwise, can defer until L.17:41
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mesterypc_m: I would ping matt (QA PTL) about spec deadlines there. anteaya may know that as well, it's possible.17:42
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mlavallepc_m: Matt's nick is mtreinish17:43
pc_mmestery: Thanks. Was going to ask that.17:43
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pc_mmestery: I'll go over to infra and ask about. Is there a separate IRC for QA?17:44
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mlavallepc_m: #openstack-qa17:44
pc_mmlavalle: thanks17:44
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mtreinishmlavalle: what did I do?17:48
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mlavallemtreinish: pc_m needs some guidance from you :-)17:49
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mlavallemtreinish: he'll probably ping you in the qa channel17:49
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pc_mmlavalle: I was pinging in QA17:50
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ajoarmax: http://www.fpaste.org/173147/14219491/17:55
ajodoesn't look good17:55
ajoihrachyshka  ^17:55
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HenryGamuller: ping17:55
amullerHenryG: yo17:55
amullerWhat's up?17:56
ihrachyshkaajo, shell band-aid ftw!17:56
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HenryGamuller: about https://review.openstack.org/14833517:56
amullerI'm all ears17:56
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HenryGamuller: can it be tested with a functional test?17:57
HenryGamuller: not in this patch, but later17:57
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amullerI remember I thought about that and I concluded that the answer is no, I'll have to think about it again17:57
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HenryGamuller: marun suggested something in his comment17:58
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HenryGamuller: but that sounds non-trivial17:59
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amullerHenryG: It should be possible but it's not a test I would want to maintain, I just don't think it's worth the effort. It's basically you setup an agent and a router, configure it, instantiate a new agent (So that it's internal cache is empty), and configure the router again with say, a new floating IP.18:01
amullerYou then assert that the new floating IP was actually configured on the system18:02
amullerthat would test that keepalived did indeed get a SIGHUP signal18:02
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amullerHenryG: I can play around with it after lunch18:03
marunamuller, HenryG: I have very mixed feelings here.18:03
ajoihrachyshka18:03
ajoto be true, I would even propose a simple bash script with no procesing18:03
ajojust echoes18:03
marunI really don't think double-entry accounting is useful.18:04
ajoto avoid any other process spawning18:04
ajoas the host files and leases files are fixed18:04
openstackgerritChuck Carlino proposed openstack/neutron: Allow port mac_address to be modified  https://review.openstack.org/11212918:04
marun The fact that our testing culture in neutron is all about validating that arguments were passed correctly - to me that is crazy.18:04
ajowe could just dump it out on it's final state to dnsmasq18:04
ajoand ihrachyshka , yes, I confirmed "old" means a lease renewal18:04
ajoas the dnsmasq C code pointed out, even if I couldn't be true, because 2000-line-functions are hard to understand18:05
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HenryGmarun: I agree no point in that kind of test.18:05
HenryGmarun: But you suggested a functional test "to ensure that l3 agent restart has the desired effect"18:06
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marunHenryG: Not necessarily as part of the change.18:06
ihrachyshkaajo, we can cleverly implement the script so that no external tools are used.18:06
HenryGmarun: amuller: would it make sense to file a wishlist bug so someone can work on that if they have time?18:07
ihrachyshkaajo, at least bash case18:07
marunHenryG: We can tell by inspection that the desired effect is achieved, and a functional test can be added later to ensure against regressions.18:07
marunHenryG: +1 to adding something to track it.18:07
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Add SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14934818:07
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: linuxbridge: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14934918:07
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: openvswitch: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935018:07
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: mlnx: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935118:07
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: nec: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935218:07
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: ofagent: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935318:07
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: oneconvergence: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935418:07
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: sriovnicagent: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935518:07
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: bigswitch: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935618:07
ihrachyshkano idea how portable that would be, but since we may assume bash is present on any modern linux, that should be fine.18:07
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ihrachyshka(I guess bash is in some kind of LSB or smth?)18:08
HenryGmarun: cool. amuller: can you file one and comment with a link to the bug?18:08
amullerHenryG: Will do18:09
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pc_marmax: ping18:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: nec: drop usage of SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14790318:19
amullerHenryG: done, linked in the patch18:20
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HenryGamuller: saw that, thanks.18:21
HenryGamuller: let's give markmcclain a chance to respond18:22
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markmcclainHenryG: which review?18:25
HenryGmarkmcclain: https://review.openstack.org/14833518:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: ofagent: drop usage of SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14790418:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: oneconvergence: drop usage of SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14790518:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: ovs: drop usage of SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14790618:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: tests: drop usage of SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14790718:30
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openstackgerritvishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Implementation of Brocade Vyatta Firewall driver  https://review.openstack.org/14760018:34
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openstackgerritChuck Carlino proposed openstack/neutron: Allow port mac_address to be modified  https://review.openstack.org/11212918:48
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Use db constraint to ensure mac address uniqueness  https://review.openstack.org/14640419:09
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dnearyHi19:13
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dnearyAnyone care to help me fact check (it's my best understanding, but I may be wrong) https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenStack_and_OpenDaylight <- especially the accuracy of "you need to clean out Neutron"19:13
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pc_mmarun: ping19:17
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openstackgerritJuergen Brendel proposed openstack/neutron: Close ARP spoofing vulnerability  https://review.openstack.org/14113019:46
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kevinbentonclaudiub: ping19:48
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openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: hyperv: drop useless messaging.Target on HyperVSecurityAgent  https://review.openstack.org/14937719:51
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: hyperv: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14937819:51
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Remove SecurityGroupAgentRpcMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14937919:51
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marunpc_m: pong19:51
pc_mmarun: Don't know if you saw the discussion earlier. Wanted to touch base with you though on VPN tempest testing.19:51
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marunpc_m: I missed it. scrolling mback19:52
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pc_mmarun: (it was way earlier) I figured out a way to do a IPSec VPN connection on a single devstack node.19:52
pc_mmarun: Wanted to create a scenario test (as we don't have any for VPN)19:52
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marunI would much rather see a functional test for the same thing.19:53
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marunpc_m: Is there something specific about your proposed test that requires a vm?19:53
manishgarosen: ping19:53
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pc_mmarun: OK, make it is just terminology.19:53
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marunpc_m: the advantage of a functional test is that it wouldn't require the overhead of booting vm's through nova19:54
marunpc_m: if the test were written carefully, it could also be targeted at a non-functional environment.19:54
pc_mmarun: I have an idea, where we create two routers, two private nets/subnets, and a public net, and then setup a VPN connection between and ping across.19:54
marunpc_m: hmmm19:55
pc_mI checked this on a single DevSTack instance I have.19:55
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pc_mmarun: In the past, people were looking at two devstack nodes running to try this.19:56
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pc_mmarun: And AFAIK, work was abandoned on it about a year ago.19:56
marunpc_m: While I think an end-to-end test is desirable, I think it would be preferable to start with focused testing of the vpnaas machinery in isolation first.19:56
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pc_mmarun: I wanted to get something so we can test OpenSwan and StrongSwan.19:57
pc_mmarun: What types of tests are you thinking of?19:57
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marunpc_m: validation of the vpn agent is probably a good starting point19:57
marunpc_m: ensuring that it can interact witht the drivers for real19:58
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pc_mmarun: There are tests for the API, tests for the database (some, I think). Tests for service to device driver communication, and some tests of the driver.19:58
marunpc_m: The point being to start at the smallest thing you can reasonably test in a real environment and work up from there.19:58
marunpc_m: I'm not talking about unit tests.19:59
marunpc_m: we have similar efforts ongoing for the l3 and dhcp agents, for example19:59
marunpc_m: validating that the interaction between neutron and the underlying system dependencies is well-tested20:00
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pc_mmarun: There are some functional tests being created for namespaces, related to VPN.20:00
marunpc_m: the point of working at a lower level first is that when problems are encountered, either in development or in the gate, we have finer-grained tests we can rely on to pinpoint the problem or at least serve as a starting point20:01
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marunpc_m: it should be possible to do exactly what you are proposing to do with vm's in tempest, in a functional test20:01
marunpc_m: oh, is that already happening then?20:01
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marunpc_m: the important thing in my mind is that tempest tests are expensive to write and maintain, and if we can avoid writing one by writing an in-tree test, we should probably do so.20:02
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pc_mmarun: Forthe strongswan impl. they have a test for namespaces (as they are using mount --bind).20:03
marunpc_m: link?20:03
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pc_mmarun: I'm fine with functional tests. we need something, as there is nothing that verifies that a real connection can be created.20:03
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pc_mmarun: I didn't realize that Tempest = VMs. I wasn't thinking of that. Thinking of creating the items mentioned above.20:04
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marunpc_m: tempest is whitebox, so it limits the flexibility available.20:04
marunpc_m: nothing like failure injection is possible, for example.20:04
marunpc_m: for networking, that's very limiting.20:05
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marunpc_m: the functional tests allow more-or-less complete control over the test environment20:05
pc_mmarun: https://review.openstack.org/146508 and https://review.openstack.org/14439120:05
marunpc_m: so failure modes can actually be induced and verified20:05
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pc_mmarun: Gotcha.20:06
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pc_mmarun: My main thought was to be able to actually bring up a VPN connection and verify that it is indeed ACTIVE.20:07
marunpc_m: right20:07
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marunpc_m: the advantage of functional tests for the golden path is that they are cheaper to write and execute20:07
marunpc_m: and more reliable, frankly.[20:08
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marunpc_m: vm's introduce all kinds of potential for transient failure20:08
pc_mmarun: Today, everyone runs UTs and submits to Jenkins and declares victory. No real verification, unless people do it manually).20:08
marunpc_m: for vpnaas you mean?20:08
marunI understand there is work ongoing to get a functional job running20:09
pc_mmarun: Yeah.20:09
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marunpc_m: looking at those reviews, I'm not sure of the value of functional test additions if they're not gating20:09
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pc_mmarun: OK. So now that I understand the terminology... I want to have functional tests for better VPN coverage.20:09
marunpc_m: functional tests is an overloaded term, in neutron-land it means tests that can interact directly with the underlying system20:10
pc_mmarun: Sorry, by 'gating' you mean?20:10
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marunpc_m: there is no functional job to run functional test additions20:10
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marunpc_m: unit tests and functional tests are divided by the type of environment they require to execute20:11
marunpc_m: unit tests require neutron's python dependencies only20:11
marunpc_m: functional tests require os dependencies too, and sufficient host setup to allow everything to execute20:11
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marunpc_m: so neutron-dsvm-functional in the gate has to configure the host vm accordingly20:12
marunpc_m: so long as vpnaas lacks its own functional job, functional test additions are going to be no-op20:13
marunpc_m: which suggests either not requiring them for now - and potentially merging untested code - or blocking merge until a functional job is running20:13
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pc_mOK. is that part of the other topic I was discussing over on QA IRC, about the move of API and functional tests to the services repos (for the services)?20:14
marunpc_m: synoposis?20:15
pc_mmarun: I volunteered to create a BP Spec for that migration, and was going to start on it tomorrow. Plan to work with Doug, etc. then, to do the migration.20:15
marundougwig, pc_m: What exactly are you targeting?20:15
pc_mmarun: Summary is... move over test filre *aaS repos, get Jenkin running them, then remove them from Neutron.20:16
marunThere aren't any tests in api or functional tests for *aas in neutron20:16
pc_mmarun: For VPN, there are only API tests right now.20:16
marunpc_m: where?20:16
marunpc_m: you're talking about in tempest I'm assuming?20:16
pc_mmarun: I guess they are in Tempest.20:16
marunpc_m: uh...20:16
marunpc_m: I'm not sure you should be attempting that yet.20:16
marunpc_m: I'm working on making it possible for neutron's api tests to be moved from tempest to be in-tree.20:17
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marunpc_m: But it's not a trivial undertaking and I'm not sure I see value in doing it for *aas until we've proven it for neutron20:17
pc_mmarun: OK. And by in-tree is that neutron?20:17
pc_mmarun: Ah...20:18
marunpc_m: There are a bunch of problems to solve to get to the point where we can actually remove anything from tempest.20:18
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marunpc_m: I would suggest that the biggest hole in *aas testing is the lack of a functional job.20:19
pc_mmarun: This is blossoming... My original goal was to get this new test to verify functionality. Talked to matreinish20:19
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pc_mmarun: dougwig chimed in an asked if I could help on migrating the tests over to the service repos.20:20
pc_ms/matreinish/mtreinish/20:20
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pc_mmarun: OK. Sounds like a reset is needed on my part.20:22
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marunpc_m: The services split is complicating things, because without coordination we'll end up duplicating each other.20:23
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marunpc_m: I still suggest focusing on getting functional testing possible for *aas.20:24
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marunpc_m: You'll be able to move faster that way.20:24
marunpc_m: I'll keep working on laying the groundwork for moving api testing from tempest, and once that's done, it should be reusable for *aas.20:25
pc_mmarun: OK, so creating functional test cases that test VPN interaction with system? Putting those under tempest?20:25
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marunpc_m: tempest -> integration testng20:25
marunpc_m: functional testing is in-tree20:26
marunpc_m: functional testing (without vm's) should be a precondition for doing integration testing (with vm's)20:26
pc_mmarun: sorry. So putting those under tests/fucntional20:26
marunpc_m: yes20:26
marunpc_m: and making sure there is a dsvm-neutron-vpnaas-functional gate job that can configure the environment appropriately and run those tets20:27
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maruntests20:27
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pc_mmarun: understood. Will need guidance on the gate job, as I'm clueless.20:29
openstackgerritJustin Lund proposed openstack/neutron: Remove lambda function in favor of proper operator  https://review.openstack.org/14938920:30
pc_mmarun: Will have to think about the functional testing as well. Pretty much nothing happens, until one creates the connection.20:30
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marunpc_m: if my experience with functional testing is any guide, it will be a great learning opportunity :)20:31
pc_mmarun: indeed20:31
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pc_mmarun: So I understand better... the two commits I mentioned, are targeting to place these functional tests in the VPN repo (which has nothing at this time).20:32
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Scope secgroup rpc api using a messaging namespace  https://review.openstack.org/14939020:32
marunpc_m: the gate job has been a long and complicated road, and is still ongoing. I'm happy to help, and maybe we can document it better.20:32
marunpc_m: yes20:32
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pc_mmarun: So they aren't being run by anything, and the dsvm-neutron-vpnaas-functional would be the mechanism to run those?20:33
marunpc_m: corrte20:33
maruncorrect20:33
pc_mmarun: gotcha20:33
marunpc_m: maybe I should leave a comment on each to raise awareness of the issue?20:34
pc_mmarun: So, if you don't mind, I could use your mentoring on how to get that functional.20:34
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pc_mmarun: Roger.20:34
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marunpc_m: Happy to help20:35
pc_mmarun: It seems to be a bit of a catch-22. I guess once the gate is working, we can check these tests to make sure they work.20:35
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openstackgerritJustin Lund proposed openstack/neutron: remove map/lambda combo  https://review.openstack.org/14939220:37
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pc_mmarun: Let me know, when we can hook up to discuss the functional job stuff (I can't today, but tomorrow or next week, as you're available).20:39
russellbapologize for the incoming bomb, had to rebase a 20 patches due to conflict at the top ...20:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: mlnx: untangle SecurityGroupAgentRpcMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14903320:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: mlnx: drop usage of SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14903420:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: hyperv: drop useless messaging.Target on HyperVSecurityAgent  https://review.openstack.org/14937720:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Remove SecurityGroupAgentRpcMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14937920:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: bigswitch: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935620:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: hyperv: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14937820:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: oneconvergence: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935420:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: linuxbridge: drop usage of SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14902320:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: sriovnicagent: drop usage of SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14905320:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: sriovnicagent: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935520:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: linuxbridge: untangle SecurityGroupAgentRpcMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14902220:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: sriovnicagent: untangle SecurityGroupAgentRpcMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14905220:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: nec: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935220:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: ofagent: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935320:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Drop SecurityGroupServerRpcApiMixin  https://review.openstack.org/14905420:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: openvswitch: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935020:39
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: mlnx: use SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14935120:40
openstackgerritRussell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Add SecurityGroupAgentRpc  https://review.openstack.org/14934820:40
pc_mmarun: Appreciate your time on this!20:42
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marunrussellb: :(20:46
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marunrussellb: not sure why you wouldn't just squash these.  having to run 8 tempest jobs on every patch means you're going to use up an awful lot of resources that could be better spent.20:46
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marunpc_m: tomorrow could work20:48
russellbmarun: i'd rather solve that problem in the testing infrastructure if it really is a problem20:48
marunrussellb: how would you suggest solving it?20:48
russellbinstead of having bigger changes20:49
russellbcould detect a series, only run jobs against N at a time in a given series20:49
russellbsomething like that20:49
marunrussellb: ?20:49
russellblike, this is 20 patches right now.  only run check against the first 520:49
russellbif it passes, start testing the next however many20:49
marunrussellb: so you're willing to consume excess resources rather than adjust your way of working to the reality we're faced with?20:50
marunrussellb: if everyone worked as you are doing, everything would simply grind to a halt20:50
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russellbwe're not at some critical point in the cycle where things are overloaded, and i feel like i'm just following best practice from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages20:52
russellbdon't appreciate the attitude, to be honest20:52
* russellb moves on to something lese20:52
russellbelse.20:52
marunrussellb: :p20:52
marunrussellb: I am frustrated to hear that you consider my concern unwarranted.20:53
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marunrussellb: and I'm glad that you're an isolated case, because as I said, it would be extremely problematic if a non-trivial number of contributors behaved as you are doing.20:54
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kevinbentonmarun: are we near capacity for the gate?20:57
kevinbentonmarun: or a better question, do we have to pay extra for bursts of instance usage?20:57
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kevinbentonmarun: i'm trying to figure out if having extra instances busy is costing money20:58
russellbat times of the cycle (near deadlines) sometimes things back up, but that's not the case right now20:58
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russellband no, it's all donated resources20:58
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marunkevinbenton: 20 changes instead of 120:58
haleybdhellmann: ping, have a question about an oslo.config error i'm seeing - "NoSuchOptError: no such option: state_path"20:59
kevinbentonmarun: right, but if we are at %5 resource utilization or something, it doesn't matter much20:59
marunkevinbenton: per patch, ~160 vm hours instead of 8.20:59
anteayapc_m: no idea what BW stands for, I don't know about spec deadlines for tempest (if there are any, there aren't spec deadlines for infra as we don't worry about matching the integrated release with our tools)20:59
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marunkevinbenton: there are things in the queue, if that's what you're asking.  so it doesn't cost, but it's not free either.21:00
russellbseems there's at least not a common agreement on what best practice patch series looks like21:00
russellbi think we've had that conversation before iirc?21:00
marunrussellb: With me?21:00
russellbi think, maybe not21:00
kevinbentonmarun: what do you mean by it not being free?21:00
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russellbthat it wasn't as common in the neutron team to break thing sup21:00
marunkevinbenton: it slows down the review process21:00
russellbi think it speeds it up21:01
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russellbeach change is locally separated, smaller easier to review chunks21:01
ajointeresting conversation,21:01
russellbguide the reviewer step by step through the process from getting from A to B21:01
kevinbentonmarun: oh, having to parse through the revisions as a reviewer?21:01
marunrussellb: that may be true in nova, but 8 tempest vm's and transient failure potential in all of them means that too many small patches end up being problemtic.21:01
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ajoI agree, as long as reviewers and submitters agree on some strategy21:01
ajoworking first on the first patches of the series, and later on the others, when the first ones merge21:02
marunrussellb: we have single patches that end up stalling for days sometimes21:02
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marunrussellb: so yeah, I think it's a problem to break things down to quite the degree that you've done.21:02
kevinbentonmarun: right, but then it seems like we are adjusting behavior for bad failure rates21:02
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russellbi've honestly been rate limiting myself, guess i'll go back to doing other stuff21:03
kevinbentonmarun: rather than what might be optimal size review patches21:03
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russellbkevinbenton: that's how i feel, at least21:03
ChuckC_rkukura: hi, quick question: do you know who is most familiar with the l2pop mech driver?21:03
marunI'm hardly suggesting that we don't address the underlying problem.21:03
marunBut I'm not sure why the underlying problem should not influence our behavior while it exists.21:03
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kevinbentonthe extra work of running the rechecks and whatnot though falls on russellb in this case though21:04
marunkevinbenton: it also takes up more time than it should in the gate21:05
kevinbentonright, but now we are back to talking about what resources are available21:05
kevinbentonand there are plenty early on in the cycle21:05
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marunkevinbenton: when I see non-trivial patches being a pita to merge because of how long it takes to run jobs21:06
marunkevinbenton: it frustrates me that anyone would increase the number of jobs that need to be run21:07
marunincrease -> unnecessarily increase21:07
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kevinbentonmarun: but that's not the case here, even with all of those patches being tested, the check queue isn't full21:08
kevinbentonmarun: so other changes will be tested just as quickly as they would have before21:08
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marunkevinbenton: so my seeing queued jobs in status.openstack.org/zuul is some kind of illusion?21:08
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marunkevinbenton: what am I missing/21:08
marun?21:08
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kevinbentonmarun: oh, well if that's the case, then we are at capacity21:09
russellbthey queued waiting for nodes to be build, i don't think it's at capacity21:09
kevinbentonah21:09
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marunrussellb: and that doesn't have any relevance to the number of jobs queued?21:09
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marunrussellb: I'm not sure I understand the relationship between the queue and nodes21:10
russellbwell, some.  it keeps some base number of nodes available, but anytime lots of stuff is happening, it' has to go build stuff21:10
russellbVMs21:10
kevinbentonah, so if it uses up the available nodes, then more have to be built21:10
russellbright21:10
amullerI think that if you ask a random contributor, the long check/merge queues would be the last thing on his mind. Contributors care about how long until their patch gets approved, that's a much more interesting discussion, and that's directly influenced by how we split up our patches. I still think that smaller, isolated patches should shortern the time to approval time, not lengthen it as you suggest Maru.21:10
russellband the available number isn't a ton or anything21:10
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marunamuller: I'm all for smaller, isolated patches. proposing them all at once in a series, less so.21:12
russellbwork slower, got it :)21:13
amullerrussellb++21:13
marunrussellb: no, propose slower21:13
amullerThat was always my issue with your point Maru21:13
marunrussellb: you can work as fast as you want21:13
marunI'm just not going to review past your first change until it merges21:13
russellbok21:13
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rkukuraChuckC_: safchain and matrohon, along with some of the DVR people21:14
amullerSo why would me proposing my patches faster or slower have any effect on the time to review or merge. As a reviewer I appreciate the context, to understand where the series is headed21:14
ajoI believe marun's proposal on concentrating on the front of the lists is a win,21:14
ChuckC_rkukura: thanks21:14
marunamuller: if the point is merging, getting lost in subsequent patches just slows me down21:14
ajo1st) propose the series to get the big picture21:14
ajo2nd) cncentrate on the first patch (reviewers & contributors), merge21:14
kevinbentoni think russellb's suggestion of having the gate recognize a series and serialize some if it is the way to go here21:15
amullerWhatever works for you, I'm not going to tell any reviewers how to review, but purposely withholding information seems odd to me21:15
kevinbentonotherwise we end up with all of these unwritten rules21:15
amullerOther reviewes might appreciate seeing the entire chain21:15
ajo3rd) go to the next one (you saved N*X rebases and patches back in the list)21:15
marunamuller: purposely developing in a monolith fashion, that's what seems odd to me21:15
russellbbtw, related to nodepool's behavior of having nodes ready -- http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/templates/nodepool/nodepool.yaml.erb#n5821:15
russellbthat file has config for how many it tries to keep ready to go at any given time21:15
marunrussellb: cool, thanks.21:16
amullermarun: I'm developing as fast as I can, pushing each patch that makes sense21:16
amullerI don't see how I can make it any more or less monolithic21:16
marunamuller: you're developing without feedback in the hopes that your direction is correct21:16
kevinbentoncan we complain now about how using rebases seems like a slap in the face to git?21:16
russellbkevinbenton: heh, why is that?21:16
marunkevinbenton: rewriting history you mean?21:16
kevinbentonyes21:16
russellbmakes perfect sense in the right context to me21:17
marunkevinbenton: yeah, I'm not a fan21:17
kevinbentongit was developed to merge trees21:17
kevinbentonit also makes code review nice because you can see diffs implicitly from the last commit21:17
marunI used bzr for a while, and it was capable of retaining merged history21:17
russellbso you think code review should be your changes and a whole bunch of merge commits?21:17
ajokevinbenton I just got so used to it, which seems natural to me21:17
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marunso you could commit early and often on a branch, and when you merged into master, that history wouldn't be lost21:18
marunI really prefer that, honestly.21:18
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kevinbentonthe Chang-Id is a required wart because of the rebase workflow21:18
russellbi'm also very biased after getting so used to just the we do it ...21:19
kevinbentondefinitely, dependent patches is the only time where this workflow becomes painful21:19
marunrussellb: with bzr, you'd be reviewing the end result, but you'd still be able to dig into the successive changes that got there.21:19
marunbut then, bzr was complicated in entirely different ways.21:20
kevinbentonit's basically how code review using github works21:20
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kevinbentonyou can see the timeline of when you left comments21:20
ajomarun: bzr--21:20
clarkbthe issue with it is you still want to be able to bisect so would need each patch to be complete anyways21:20
kevinbentonand when new commits were added21:20
clarkband github completly fails at that21:20
ajowe used @ kicad, it's slow21:20
kevinbentonclarkb: true21:20
kevinbentonclarkb: you would need a mix where you would rebase anything that didn't pass tests21:21
clarkbgithub PRs are almodt impossiblr to review too but thats more Ui not workflow21:21
kevinbentonclarkb: +121:21
ajo7th time  a super simple patch fails in a test bootstraping pip, or things like that... (during the last 2 days)21:21
ChuckC_shivharis: hi21:21
ajo:(21:21
ChuckC_shivharis: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112129/ patchset 31 and let me know if you agree with Rosella's comments?21:22
kevinbentonclarkb: i just like being able to see the diff against the trunk or each individual change21:22
clarkbkevinbenton you can have that just not in gerrit :(21:23
kevinbentonclarkb: now if someone rebases against master, the diff between two patchsets is a mess21:23
ChuckC_shivharis: it's in mechanism_brocade.py21:23
clarkbgit review -m iirc21:23
kevinbentonclarkb: is there a way i can do it on the command?21:23
kevinbentonclarkb: interesting21:23
ajokevinbenton, yes, you can do it in the command21:23
kevinbentonwhere for how do much speak english me?21:23
kevinbenton:)21:24
ajokevinbenton, the what? :P21:24
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kevinbenton"do it on the command" doesn't exactly make sense21:24
kevinbentonunless i was asking how to do it when someone commands me too...21:24
ajokevinbenton, passed totally unnoticed to me -non native-21:24
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kevinbentonajo: ok. point got across then :)21:25
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add notes on how to deal with stable branches  https://review.openstack.org/14874521:25
haleybihrachyshka: ping, have time for a question about lockutils?21:26
ihrachyshkahaleyb, yeah, sure sir21:26
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haleybihrachyshka: i've been looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1413111 and started tripping over lockutils.lock() throwing an exception of "NoSuchOptError: no such option: state_path"21:27
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haleyblock_path = $state_path/lock in my neutron.conf (as devstack configured)21:28
haleybshort of hard-coding that lock_path is there a way to get past this? seems some recent oslo* changes in this area21:28
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amullerhaleyb: IIRC if you update some Oslo library it fixes itself21:30
amullerI can't remember more than that =/ But I hit the same issue21:30
ihrachyshkahaleyb, well, it's probably due to old oslo.concurrency in your setup?21:30
openstackgerritJustin Lund proposed openstack/neutron: Remove lambda function in favor of proper operator  https://review.openstack.org/14938921:30
ihrachyshkahaleyb, $$ substitution feature was buggy there till this one: I7b0b5c840381b2d9afc00ff116fee1d97074318321:31
haleybihrachyshka: perhaps?  i guess i always assume devstack is smarter than that and pip updates, but...21:31
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ihrachyshkahaleyb, included in 0.4.0+21:31
ihrachyshkahaleyb, it will pip update if requirements are patched properly. maybe they are not really, yet.21:32
haleyboslo.concurrency==0.3.021:32
ihrachyshkayeah...21:32
ihrachyshkathere was and update for requirements, let me find it21:32
marunajo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14926621:33
marunajo: can you submit a new patch so we can merge?21:33
ihrachyshkaok, I guess it's fixed openstack/requirements wise21:33
ajomarun looking21:33
haleybihrachyshka: oslo.concurrency>=0.3.0,!=0.4.021:33
ajomarun, sure, I was right into it21:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove DBDuplicateEntry columns check  https://review.openstack.org/13417621:33
ihrachyshkahaleyb, ok, then it's also included in 1.4.121:33
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haleyblet me see what my "old" devstack has21:34
ihrachyshkahaleyb, hm, I guess I need to bump requirements now that neutron uses it21:34
haleybmy working devstack has 0.3.0 and works just fine, but with last week's neutron bits21:34
haleybso try 1.4.1 ?21:35
openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Move process monitor settings to neutron.conf AGENT section  https://review.openstack.org/14926621:36
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ajomarun, there it is ^21:36
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ihrachyshkahaleyb, we need to bump version anyway21:37
ihrachyshkahaleyb, https://review.openstack.org/14940021:38
ihrachyshkasorry, I forgot to do it previously21:38
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haleybihrachyshka: np, let me at least try 1.4.121:38
ihrachyshkahaleyb, sure, go ahead and tell me how it works. I'm all ears.21:39
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haleybihrachyshka: well, no more exception with 1.4.121:41
ZZelle_markmcclain, hi21:43
marunajo: hi21:43
markmcclainZZelle: hi21:43
marunajo: I have a thought regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11593521:44
ZZelle_markmcclain, about https://review.openstack.org/146404, i addressed your comment21:44
marunajo: there have been several comments from reviewers about the justification for passing process monitor around21:44
marunajo: I think the current approach should merge in its current shape, don't get me wrong.21:44
ZZelle_markmcclain, should i also correct others db class overloading __table_args__ (in a different change of course)?21:45
marunajo: But I think a follow-up patch is warranted.21:45
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ajomarun, 1 reviewer, yes, was obondarev?21:51
marunajo: I heard the same thing from armax and markmcclain, iirc.21:52
ajomarun, thanks,21:52
ajomarun, aha, otherwise, what do they propose?21:52
ajomarun, may be a singleton process monitor we initialize at start from agent?21:52
marunajo: The goal would be to reduce the coupling of the process manager from the monitor, perhaps by introducing an interface that the manager could implement and the monitor could interact with21:53
marunajo: I wouldn't worry about it until the l3 agent patch merges, though.21:53
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ajomarun, ok, agreed, we can give a 2nd thought on the design once it's rolling21:53
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marunajo: sounds good :)21:54
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ajoI'm willing to make that better,21:55
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: DVR qrouters not created on compute Node when vm added  https://review.openstack.org/14914321:57
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markmcclainZZelle: I'll take a look.. yes it would be nice if any others we missed were cleaned up too22:01
ZZelle_ok22:01
markmcclainZZelle: in a fllow up commit22:02
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ajohaleyb, ping : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/141098222:10
ajohaleyb, did you send a patch for reload_allocations, right?22:10
ihrachyshkahaleyb, what's the bug you refered to?22:11
ihrachyshkahaleyb, is it https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1413111 ?22:12
haleybihrachyshka: https://launchpad.net/bugs/141311122:12
ihrachyshkaok, does it fix the issue for you?22:12
openstackgerritDane LeBlanc proposed openstack/neutron: Support Multiple IPv6 Prefixes and Addresses for IPv6 Network  https://review.openstack.org/11333922:13
haleybyes, 1.4.1 fixes the problem.  The neutron code is still a little wrong, but the trigger seemed to be oslo.concurrency, we just started catching exceptions so had to dig down to the real problem22:13
ihrachyshkahaleyb, ok, added bug link to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149400/ markmcclain, please re-apply +2. thanks22:13
ihrachyshkahaleyb, ack; well, then it's good we broke the code in this way and revealed another bug ;)22:14
haleybihrachyshka: thanks, but can you make that partial-bug ?  the neutron code is still wrong I think22:14
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haleyband revealed a test deficiency as well22:14
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markmcclainihrachyshka: yeah I think partial-bug makes sense22:15
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markmcclainihrachyshka: want me to edit the commit message inline or haleyb you could do it too22:15
ihrachyshkaok, doing22:15
ihrachyshkadone22:16
haleybhe's faster than me22:16
ihrachyshka:P22:16
ihrachyshkaok guys, happy hacking, /me is going to bed.22:16
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haleybthanks ihar22:17
kevinbentoni wonder if gerrit does optimistic updating to prevent commit message update race conditions22:17
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haleybajo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147977/ - is that the one?  I marked as a WIP since I didn't know if it was exactly correct22:18
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ajohaleyb, I will make reload_allocations more robust22:19
ajohaleyb, so it won't crash on non existing pid ("None"), and it will try to restart the dhcp, if it could,22:19
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ajoI'm going to re-read logs again to make sure I fully understand the problem22:20
ajobut basically, haleyb , I believe the log error we found, basically is distracting us from the real issue, anywhere it is..22:20
ajothe same error happens on passed tempest tests22:21
haleybajo: that change should help with the non-existent interfaces file too, but don't know if not removing all config files is right22:21
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ajohaleyb, for a retain_port should be ok in my opinion,22:21
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ajoI believe your change is right and it's also going to hide the error on reload allocations away,22:21
ajowe will see an "pid file is stale, restarting dhcp agent"22:22
ajobtw22:22
ajoas it finds the pid file, and not the process22:22
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openstackgerritJustin Lund proposed openstack/neutron: Remove lambda function in favor of proper operator  https://review.openstack.org/14938922:28
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haleybajo: do you want me to change the commit message and link it to the bug correctly?22:28
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ajohaleyb, not sure, may be we should open a 2nd bug which doesn't speak about slaac22:29
ajoand point it to that new one.22:29
ajoand tell from the slaac one, that the other messages are related to this new bug, and that we yet need to look for the problem making slaac fail22:30
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kevinbentona simple way to extract the first item in a list attribute of an object with the revolutionary operator library!22:42
kevinbentonoperator.itemgetter(0)(operator.attrgetter('mylist')(obj))22:42
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ajoXDDD kevinbenton22:44
kevinbentonajo: i'm not sure why this library bothers me so much22:45
kevinbentonajo: it really shouldn't22:45
kevinbentonajo: but it does22:45
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ajo:)22:46
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ajokevinbenton, is it of any use, what's the advantage instead of using the intrinsic operators?22:48
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kevinbentonajo: the way i used it there is definitely not the intent22:48
kevinbentonajo: it's supposed to replace lambdas22:48
kevinbentonajo: in map functions for example22:48
ajokevinbenton, that for sure, I understood it was a joke :D22:48
ajoaha22:48
ajoahh22:48
ajook :)22:48
ajomakes sense22:49
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kevinbentonmap(lambda x: x.mylist, objects) vs map(operator.attrgetter('mylist'), objects)22:49
kevinbentonbut it seems like the right side isn't much better22:50
kevinbentonmaybe if you aren't used to lambdas22:50
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ChuckCshivharis: ping22:55
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SridharRamaswamypc_m: ping22:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: SIGHUP keepalived if L3 agent restarts  https://review.openstack.org/14833523:30
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: WIP Basic subnetpool CRUD. Do not merge  https://review.openstack.org/14869823:46
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openstackgerritMiguel Lavalle proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor management of namespaces in the L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/14774423:51
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