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| jamielennox | hi all, who can i perster about putting out a neutronclient release | 01:18 |
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| anteaya | jamielennox: the neutron-release gerrit group: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/gerrit/acls/openstack/python-neutronclient.config | 01:34 |
| anteaya | jamielennox: who is mestery https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/150,members | 01:35 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I pulled from master and rebased my update on it. I've been solving the conflicts. But when I got to dvr.py, it became laborious. It's kind of late here. Instead rushing through this, I will finish tomorrow and then I will push the update | 01:35 |
| jamielennox | anteaya: excellent, thank you | 01:35 |
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| anteaya | jamielennox: np, please to talk to you again, missed you at the mid-cycle and lca | 01:36 |
| anteaya | two chances and missed both | 01:36 |
| jamielennox | anteaya: yea, mid cycle is a little bit far for me, and i'd have loved to have been at LCA but didn't work out :( | 01:37 |
| anteaya | that could be pleased or a pleasure, so take your pick | 01:37 |
| anteaya | :( | 01:37 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: ok? | 01:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: if you want, I can take a look at the conflicts. | 01:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Could you post the non-rebased version? | 01:38 |
| jamielennox | mestery: (for when you get in) Is it possible to plan a neutronclient release for early next week? It's probably not a great time to drop it right before K2, however there are changes i'm stuck on in other projects that require fixes that are already comminted. If we don't do it soon I don't expect i'll be able to make the change within the kilo time period | 01:38 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: ok, I'll push the no rebased version | 01:39 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I'll abort my rebase | 01:39 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: were you far along? | 01:40 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: Yeah, I kind of was... I invested like 1 hr and a half solving the conflicts | 01:41 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: it is probably better for you and me if I finish my rebase tomorrow morning | 01:41 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Don’t abort then. Could you stash the changes? | 01:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Sounds good. | 01:42 |
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| itzikb | carl_baldwin: Hi,I have a small question regarding DVR | 01:43 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: If I do a git stash, it fails. I probably ned to finish the rebase | 01:44 |
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| carl_baldwin | itzikb: hi | 01:44 |
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| itzikb | carl_baldwin: I'm trying to understand the flow for north-south for instances without floating IPs. I have this document https://github.com/ionosphere80/openstack-networking-guide/blob/master/scenario-dvr/scenario-dvr.md | 01:45 |
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| itzikb | carl_baldwin: I don't understand how the mac for the sg interface is resolved | 01:47 |
| itzikb | carl_baldwin: step 6 there under 'Packet flow' | 01:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | itzikb: Sorry, I’m at a meeting for my daughter’s upcoming soccer season. I will have a little time to look at this later. | 01:56 |
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| itzikb | ok thanks | 01:56 |
| carl_baldwin | itzikb: What time zone are you in? | 01:57 |
| itzikb | UTC+2 | 01:58 |
| carl_baldwin | itzikb: You’re up early then. :) | 01:58 |
| carl_baldwin | itzikb: I need to head home now. I will be on again in a couple of hours. | 01:59 |
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| itzikb | carl_baldwin: Yes.. That's is like when you have a baby.. | 01:59 |
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| mestery | jamielennox: Sure, we can look at a neutronclient release next week. It'll have to be Monday or Friday (ideally Friday), does that work for you? | 02:32 |
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| jamielennox | mestery: i'm happy with having it in motion, i'm always concerned with releases on a friday - but whatever works best | 02:34 |
| jamielennox | mestery: thanks | 02:36 |
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| trinaths | Hi all, Good Morning | 05:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhang Hua proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: IPsec strongSwan driver implemention https://review.openstack.org/144391 | 09:17 |
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| ZZelle | gongysh, hi | 09:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Correct inconsistent enable_snat management https://review.openstack.org/130199 | 09:24 |
| ZZelle | salv-orlando, hi | 09:25 |
| salv-orlando | aloha ZZelle, anything I can do for you? | 09:25 |
| ZZelle | salv-orlando, about https://review.openstack.org/130588 | 09:25 |
| salv-orlando | ZZelle: yes? | 09:25 |
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| ZZelle | salv-orlando, i fail to find your spec proposal to publish features configuration through API | 09:26 |
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| ZZelle | salv-orlando, is it part of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136760/1/specs/kilo/consolidate_extensions.rst ? | 09:29 |
| salv-orlando | ZZelle: I'm just back, I might have missed something | 09:29 |
| salv-orlando | got disconnected | 09:29 |
| salv-orlando | ZZelle: caught up | 09:30 |
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| salv-orlando | so the point is that the things I mentioned in the review do not yet exist anywere, they are related to that blueprint even if not explicitly mentioned there | 09:30 |
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| salv-orlando | however, there is no way we can implement them in Kilo, maybe not even L | 09:31 |
| salv-orlando | mostly because everytime you touch the API you need to seek approval for 47 different committees and then there are always the odd community members pushing some counter argument. Pretty much like passing a law. | 09:32 |
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| salv-orlando | on the other hand, I see no alternative to adding an option atm | 09:32 |
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| salv-orlando | so we can 2 two things - 1 approve the patch and wait for somebody to shout once they realize of this change | 09:33 |
| ZZelle | salv-orlando, the stupid way: define a new extension to publish snat default behavior :( | 09:33 |
| salv-orlando | ZZelle: please not another extension, please.... | 09:33 |
| ZZelle | salv-orlando, was joking, that would be unefficient | 09:34 |
| salv-orlando | anyway, I would make an attempt to go to the mailing list and gather some sort of consensus. I am ok with using a conf variable as a temporary measure | 09:34 |
| salv-orlando | because this enable_snat logic causes troubles in some deployment | 09:34 |
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| salv-orlando | in its present form is rather weird at least - for instance if you disable the extension, as a deployer you would expect that the SNAT feature will be off. And instead when you disable the enable_snat extension SNAT is always on! | 09:36 |
| salv-orlando | (indeed the extension was originally called disable_snat, but then you know... compromise) | 09:36 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando, hey sir. do you have +2 in *aas, right? I need your help. | 09:37 |
| salv-orlando | anyway, to summarize if you reach out to the mailing list we'll try and get a consensus on this. | 09:37 |
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| ZZelle | salv-orlando, yes, the option only changes default behavior | 09:37 |
| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: here to assist | 09:37 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando, awesome. so oslo imports: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bug/1409733,n,z | 09:37 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando, a lot of review fun, especially neutron part | 09:38 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando, note that *aas should be pushed before neutron part, otherwise we break the former | 09:38 |
| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: thanks for reminding me! I barely slept tonight so I'm really likely to make silly things | 09:39 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando, not sure whether gate is quite stable to push them in one go and hope them to merge, or we wait for aas to get in | 09:39 |
| ZZelle | salv-orlando, when i read your spec, i feel it addresses 2 differents needs | 09:39 |
| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: neutron-lbaas partch already merged right? | 09:39 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando, ack | 09:39 |
| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: I'd stay on the safe side and wait | 09:39 |
| salv-orlando | no need to trigger a gate reset. | 09:39 |
| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando, that's fine with me. I'll rebase another time if conflicts arise, that's not big deal. | 09:40 |
| ZZelle | salv-orlando, redefine what means "core" and allow to publish configuration option impacting the service rendered | 09:40 |
| salv-orlando | ZZelle: indeed that is the intention. Remove a lot of extensions which should not be extensions and give the user a chance to know what's enabled on the server. You can query /extensions for that, but it's hardly comprehensive | 09:41 |
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| ZZelle | salv-orlando, i feel that the 2nd part is less controversial and could an enabler to redefine the "core" | 09:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-fwaas: oslo: migrate to namespace-less import paths https://review.openstack.org/147248 | 10:58 |
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| ihrachyshka | obondarev, hey sir! may I ask you to +A: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147215/ ? *aas counterparts are merged now | 11:25 |
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| amotoki | ihrachyshka: regarding your review above, the second depending review is abandoned. Will you update the commit message, or do we go as-is? | 12:03 |
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| ihrachyshka | amotoki, well, I think we can go in as-is. it's not worth another respin, and the more we wait with this, the more chance we break smth in *aas due to new hacking rule they share with neutron | 12:05 |
| amotoki | ihrachyshka: thanks for the clarification. I think it is okay. will +A | 12:06 |
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| ihrachyshka | amotoki, thanks sir | 12:07 |
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| trinaths | amotoki: Hi, one question, in NEC CI, you are maintaining a local GIT equal to openstack-git? How you sync them? | 12:41 |
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| amotoki | trinaths: I use just "git pull" to sync. | 12:42 |
| amotoki | trinaths: a bit older version of my CI scripts are https://github.com/amotoki/devstack-tools/tree/master/config-ci | 12:43 |
| amotoki | trinaths: gitrepo_update.sh does this. | 12:43 |
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| trinaths | amotoki: okay. but during this split in neutron, I faced certain difficulties in managing the CI. so I'm asking you. | 12:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Remove duplication for exception - part 1 https://review.openstack.org/153543 | 12:47 |
| trinaths | amotoki: thanks for the git link. | 12:48 |
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| amotoki | trinaths: perhaps we need to deal with git repos during split. it is same as when we propose a new plugin. | 12:49 |
| amotoki | because we need some depending patches | 12:49 |
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| trinaths | amotoki: regarding the packages in requirments.txt, you having a local pypi which is updated regularly | 12:54 |
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| amotoki | trinaths: I don't have a local pypi mirror. | 12:54 |
| trinaths | amotoki: okay got it | 12:55 |
| amotoki | trinaths: as you see in my git repo, pip cache is used. | 12:55 |
| trinaths | amotoki: thanks ya.. me too upgraded to cache. | 12:55 |
| trinaths | amotoki: :) | 12:55 |
| trinaths | amotoki: thanks for guidance | 12:55 |
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| amotoki | trinaths: are you writing some documents or memos on what you did during plugin/driver decomposition? you have two drivers, so it helps others. | 13:02 |
| amotoki | trinaths: it is just a question. I just started the splitting work and will make an addition to neutron dev docs if needed. | 13:03 |
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| naggappan__ | to run unit test of any project, say neutron is it required to install other projects like cinder,nova,keystone,horizon etc. ? Because without installing other services i see the test runs fine | 13:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Remove port from ovsdb after its deletion https://review.openstack.org/143865 | 13:26 |
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| trinaths | amotoki: I was away for a coffee.. Yes now we have 3 ML2 drivers (MLNX, Arista and ODL) for ref. on split. I'm interested in writing the doc.rst which can help others too on code split. asked Sukhdev on help. he said, when u start ping me I'm here to help you | 13:34 |
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| trinaths | amotoki: if you have a doc for this, kindly share with me too | 13:34 |
| matrohon | dougwig : hi | 13:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: Add the rebinding chance in _bind_port_if_needed https://review.openstack.org/141044 | 13:42 |
| ihrachyshka | naggappan__, unit tests just need neutron source tree, you don't even install neutron | 13:44 |
| ihrachyshka | naggappan__, same for functional tests (though they utilize devstack in gate, but not locally) | 13:45 |
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| naggappan__ | @ihrachyshka. Thanks a lot | 13:50 |
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| naggappan__ | @ihrachyshka: does the unit test creates network/subnets/ports ? if so what driver/plugin will it use by default if we clone the source tree and run | 13:59 |
| ihrachyshka | naggappan__, unit tests don't interact with any external resources, including db. so the answer is no. | 13:59 |
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| jaypipes | enikanorov: once again, you're totally right about the retry mechanism code :) Please see my request in your retry patch for a code comment. otherwise, looks good. thanks for your patience with me! | 14:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor _remove_unused_security_group_info https://review.openstack.org/152512 | 14:11 |
| naggappan__ | ihrachyshka: thanks for clarification | 14:14 |
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| enikanorov_ | leakypipes: no prob, thanks :) | 14:15 |
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| HenryG | haleyb: ping | 14:20 |
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| haleyb | HenryG: pong | 14:22 |
| HenryG | haleyb: What do you think of this innocent-looking change? https://review.openstack.org/125043 | 14:23 |
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| ajo | HenryG, let me look too, such a description makes me curious | 14:24 |
| ajo | HenryG, wouldn't that break FWaaS? | 14:25 |
| ajo | I mean, if an admin is setting firewall rules on the router... that would make it unnefective | 14:25 |
| HenryG | ajo: That may be. I also wonder if dvr is affected? | 14:26 |
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| ajo | HenryG, that's a good question | 14:26 |
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| ajo | HenryG, bad me, I left a -1, suggesting to make this available via a config option | 14:28 |
| HenryG | ajo: haleyb: Maybe I should not give it +2. Please shoot down my vote if you have concerns. | 14:28 |
| ajo | HenryG I would wait for others to come and review too | 14:28 |
| ajo | given this concern | 14:29 |
| haleyb | I know I've done such things on a real network before, but yes, we should check DVR. And it is a MAY in the RFC, but direct communication between VMs is always preferred | 14:29 |
| HenryG | ajo: OK, sounds good | 14:29 |
| ajo | may be just +1 or -1 for now? | 14:29 |
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| ajo | haleyb, but I would expose it via an option, so people can still have control using the firewall? | 14:29 |
| ajo | yet, a tenant could go and set those routes manually on the VM, but requires cooperation between different tenants (on a shared net) | 14:30 |
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| ajo | btw, yes... on the other hand, I fill horrendous having traffic for subnets passing via the network node/router... ;D | 14:30 |
| haleyb | ajo: right, it would take cooperation to make it bi-directional | 14:31 |
| ajo | fill? | 14:31 |
| ajo | feel :D | 14:31 |
| ajo | feel it's... | 14:31 |
| ajo | '':) | 14:31 |
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| haleyb | is there anyone workong on fwaas we should ping? Sridar Kandaswamy ? | 14:34 |
| ajo | haleyb, HenryG , may be who really wants FWaaS will use two network segments, instead of just subnets | 14:35 |
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| ajo | will->should | 14:35 |
| ajo | otherwise subnets don't make much sense | 14:35 |
| ajo | not sure if I'd be missing some corner case | 14:35 |
| haleyb | ajo: yes, two networks would be more ideal | 14:35 |
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| ajo | yes... | 14:36 |
| ajo | haleyb, I added some previous tests to my tiny iptables_firewall refactor: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153532/ | 14:37 |
| ajo | to make sure I'm not breaking the cleanups | 14:37 |
| ajo | I found some bits where not properly tested, | 14:37 |
| haleyb | I have a single-node DVR setup i can try, but can't imagine that wouldn't work here, assuming the VM can successfully ARP resolve the target | 14:37 |
| ajo | I tried to add you to review, but if I type "Brian Haley" gerrit won't find you | 14:37 |
| HenryG | haleyb: yes, we should check with Sridar K. | 14:37 |
| haleyb | ajo: brian-haley, that auto-complete does have problems | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: oslo: migrate to namespace-less import paths https://review.openstack.org/147215 | 14:38 |
| ajo | HenryG, I suppose it may break FWaaS, as we're not passing via the router, but.. my point (against my 1st point...) is that in the case you want such thing, it's more ideal to have different network segments, instead of using subnets | 14:39 |
| ajo | so... may be that breaks some bad usage of subnets... which makes FWaaS work now, where it should not be working.. | 14:39 |
| ajo | haleyb, ok, that worked | 14:40 |
| HenryG | ajo: That makes sense. Sounds like a DocImpact | 14:41 |
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| ajo | HenryG, DocImpact | 14:42 |
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| ajo | sorry | 14:42 |
| ajo | DocImpact++ | 14:42 |
| ajo | :D | 14:42 |
| * HenryG is relieved to see that ajo is not a parrot :) | 14:42 | |
| ajo | lol :) | 14:43 |
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| pc_m | Anyone well versed in rootwrap? | 14:46 |
| pc_m | and namespace wrappers | 14:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Remove port from ovsdb after its deletion https://review.openstack.org/143865 | 15:07 |
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| dougwig | matrohon: hiya | 15:11 |
| dougwig | enikanorov_: ack | 15:11 |
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| enikanorov_ | dougwig: i've replied to your comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152576/1/neutron/db/agentschedulers_db.py | 15:12 |
| enikanorov_ | please take a look | 15:12 |
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| dougwig | ok, let me take another look this morning. | 15:12 |
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| matrohon | dougwig : I was just wondering how you dynamically load the services extensions, now that they are hosted their own stackforge | 15:13 |
| matrohon | dougwig : but then I realized you merged this : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151375/ | 15:13 |
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| dougwig | matrohon: yes. for non-officially-related-repos, you need to edit the extensions path in neutron.conf | 15:21 |
| raorn | ajo, HenryG: btw, i'm here | 15:21 |
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| HenryG | raorn: Great. Let's just cross all the t's and dot all the i's, then we can get that nice little optimization in. | 15:23 |
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| raorn | HenryG: should I add DocImpact to commit message? | 15:25 |
| haleyb | HenryG: that change works in a single-node DVR, and no problems when only one VM gets the option (one optimized, one not). The base cirros image seems to ignore the dhcp option though, fedora is fine | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/neutron: Remove versioning import of novaclient https://review.openstack.org/152907 | 15:28 |
| HenryG | raorn: Yes. And I want to hear from Sridar K on FWaaS impact, and from haleyb and maybe Carl Baldwin on DVR impact. | 15:29 |
| HenryG | And as you see, haleyb just reported in. | 15:29 |
| HenryG | haleyb: Thanks! Can you add that note in a review comment? | 15:30 |
| haleyb | HenryG: i only have a single-node dvr however, but i do have it enabled | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/neutron: Cisco Nexus ML2 Vendor decomposition https://review.openstack.org/153601 | 15:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Reorganize OVSDB API https://review.openstack.org/153384 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Use proper capitalization for OVS table names https://review.openstack.org/153383 | 15:31 |
| raorn | OK. I'm off for weekend, IRC client is running, highlights are logged | 15:31 |
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| raorn | I'll add DocImpact later (please someone leave a reminder at commit message) | 15:32 |
| raorn | have a great weekend, everyone! | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/neutron: Cisco Nexus ML2 Vendor decomposition https://review.openstack.org/153601 | 15:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Prepare to functionally test OVSDB interfaces https://review.openstack.org/153385 | 15:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Use ovsdb-api neutral column/value mappings https://review.openstack.org/153387 | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Add native OVSDB implmentation of OVSDB API https://review.openstack.org/152761 | 15:35 |
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| sdague | mestery once you end up interactive, let me know. Need to discussion some of the challenges in neutron default in devstack (which we reverted yesterday) | 15:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/neutron: Hyper-V Agent decomposition https://review.openstack.org/153259 | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed openstack/neutron: Automate host configuration for functional testing https://review.openstack.org/146113 | 16:11 |
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| mestery | sdague: Here, I saw that patch. I wish you guys would have pinged us before reverting, but regardless, a few of us were talking about it yesterday. | 16:15 |
| mestery | sdague: I think otherwiseguy has some ideas of how to make work what you guys wants. | 16:15 |
| sdague | you saw we had people stuck on openstack-dev because of the change, right? | 16:16 |
| sdague | so we've come up with this requirements list - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/devstack-neutron-default - as what's need to flip again | 16:16 |
| * mestery looks | 16:16 | |
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| mestery | sdague: This looks really good! I think we can make this work ok, I'll make sure to circle back with marun and otherwiseguy on this too. | 16:17 |
| otherwiseguy | sdague: mestery: Sorry, I posted here on the firewall changes that needed to be made to allow outbound traffic to work. Was working on other things and thought someone else was taking care of communicating that information elsewhere. My bad. | 16:17 |
| marun | sdague: what exactly are you expecting for #4? | 16:17 |
| mestery | sdague: We want to make the experience as pain-free for folks, sorry for the breakage there. | 16:17 |
| mestery | otherwiseguy: No worries my friend :) | 16:18 |
| marun | sdague: the other requirements are pretty straightforward, but I'm not clear on what documentation is required that doesn't already exist for ovs | 16:18 |
| * otherwiseguy is having trouble juggling | 16:18 | |
| * mestery throws another ball into otherwiseguy's stack | 16:19 | |
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| sdague | I think that to anyone not on the neutron team, what happens when an ovs command gets run is pretty unclear | 16:20 |
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| mestery | sdague: I'll see what we can do there too to make things a bit more clear. | 16:20 |
| sdague | pedantic documentation on that front would be good | 16:20 |
| mestery | We have docs for that but they may not be in a good place, or even a single place. | 16:21 |
| marun | mestery: I think we need to be careful not to duplicate docs for ovs | 16:21 |
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| sdague | right, but part of devstack's mission is to be very documenting of the commands in question. I think this would be a really good time to do more of that | 16:21 |
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| marun | mestery: liberal referencing maybe | 16:22 |
| mestery | marun: I agree, but what I'm talking about is documenting our usage of the commands a bit better perhaps, not OVS itself. | 16:22 |
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| mestery | To be honest, the OVS docs are obtuse themselves. | 16:22 |
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| marun | mestery: they're linux-y | 16:22 |
| marun | mestery: i.e. comprehensive but not coherent | 16:22 |
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| mestery | marun: Right, Linux-y. Obtuse. :P | 16:23 |
| marun | mestery: that's what blog posts and stackoverflow are for ;) | 16:23 |
| mestery | lol | 16:23 |
| sdague | so, honestly, I'd like to error on the side of over explaining, even if that means duplication. Because, honestly, it will go a long way to making everyone's job simpler here. | 16:23 |
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| trinaths1 | Hi all | 16:24 |
| otherwiseguy | sdague: mestery: updated the etherpad with a link to how packstack does the firewall handling. I can try to come up with a patch in a bit if someone else doesn't (hopefully?) beat me to it. Just need to catch up a little bit on some other patches as well. | 16:25 |
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| mestery | otherwiseguy: Thanks sir! | 16:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Remove duplication for exception - part 1 https://review.openstack.org/153543 | 16:33 |
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| otherwiseguy | mestery: Any ideas what the 'easier path' should be re: python-openvswitch not being in PyPI? Looks like the functional tests already have sitepackages=True in tox.ini, so I guess if we could just get it installed on the test machines, that would take care of it from a testing standpoint. Still have the issue that developers would need to install it. I guess I could add a skipTest() for them if the 'ovs' module isn't | 16:36 |
| otherwiseguy | available? | 16:36 |
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| pc_m | mestery: ping | 16:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Stale VXLAN and GRE tunnel port/flow deletion https://review.openstack.org/136106 | 16:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Add native OVSDB implmentation of OVSDB API https://review.openstack.org/152761 | 16:45 |
| mestery | otherwiseguy: Sounds good! | 16:46 |
| mestery | pc_m: In a 1:1 | 16:46 |
| pc_m | mestery: Who can I contact about namespace wrappers and root wrap? | 16:47 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: ping | 17:31 |
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| dougwig | pc_m: ack | 17:32 |
| pc_m | dougwig: In VPN repo, I tried to run coverage. Looks like it is giving warnings about neutron-vpnaas module not imported. | 17:32 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: Have you tried any of the other tox targets? | 17:33 |
| pc_m | dougwig: I compared tox.ini with neutron | 17:33 |
| pc_m | dougwig: and there are some small differences. Don't know enough about them to know if they are important | 17:34 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: Do the adv service tox.ini's need to be updated? | 17:55 |
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| dougwig | pc_m: i've tested pep8, unit, and pylint (pylint just got enabled for check/gate queues). i don't think i tested coverage. | 18:22 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Doesn't seem to work in vpn repo | 18:23 |
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| dougwig | it's likely broken in all three, then. | 18:23 |
| pc_m | (coverage) | 18:23 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: It reports that neutron-vpnaas was never imported | 18:24 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: I see the tox.ini is different for neutron and neutron-vpnaas, not sure if the differences matter. | 18:25 |
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| pc_m | For coverage, there was a 'lockutils-wrapper' prefix to the command. I tried w/o (like is in neutron), but get the same results. | 18:26 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: Any idea what that error means and what may be missing? | 18:26 |
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| dougwig | pc_m: i bet .coveragerc needs to be updated. | 18:31 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: ah. didn't even know about that file. I should have poked around more... | 18:32 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: let me play with it. | 18:32 |
| dougwig | grep just found it for me. ;) | 18:32 |
| pc_m | :) | 18:33 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: Do you know what the docs target is supposed to extract? | 18:33 |
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| * pc_m ran it for VPN and got a index.html that seems to be empty... | 18:33 | |
| dougwig | it builds whatever is in doc/ | 18:33 |
| dougwig | likely just a skeleton right now. | 18:33 |
| dougwig | look in neutron/doc for what they're using it for. | 18:34 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: seems like it has a man page for neutron_server | 18:41 |
| pc_m | dougwig: I need to run docs target in neutron first... | 18:42 |
| pc_m | dougwig: For coverage, I changed the source to neutron_vpnaas and have it only excluding the tests area. Trying to run it. | 18:42 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: Got the same error on coverage. Trying source = neutron-vpnaas, instead of neutron_vpnaas (wasn't sure if they wanted to top repo area or the subdirectory) | 18:45 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: Get the same warning. | 18:49 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, hey! | 20:15 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, re monkey patching vs. flake8 | 20:15 |
| ihrachyshka | so you mean that you monkey_patch() in neutron/__init__.py, and then you are still able to pass pep8 target? | 20:15 |
| ihrachyshka | that's not the case for me (no real idea why, the 'reason' in commit message is more a hypothesis) | 20:16 |
| ihrachyshka | in my case, it just hangs there | 20:16 |
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| ihrachyshka | unless I add -j 1 to flake8 in tox.ini (meaning, don't run in parallel) | 20:16 |
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| RichardRaseley | As I understand it, the neutron metadata agent creates and manages the appropriate neutron-ns-metadata-proxy processes for each network. I have two question regarding this. 1) If there are multiple instances of the metadata service, will the ns-proxy get spawned by whichever instance happens to pick up the message first? | 20:52 |
| RichardRaseley | and 2) If a ns-proxy process dies, what recovery mechanisms are in place to restart it? | 20:52 |
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| ihrachyshka | RichardRaseley, ns-proxy is spawned by dhcp or l3 agent, not metadata agent | 20:53 |
| RichardRaseley | ihrachyska: Ah, I misunderstood that bit. | 20:53 |
| ihrachyshka | RichardRaseley, as for recovery, there was a work done by ajo recently to monitor spawned processes and restart them in Kilo. before that, if they died, nothing occurred, so an external monitoring should have been established. | 20:54 |
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| ajo | hi, ihrachyshka , RichardRaseley , correct | 20:54 |
| ajo | that's now in master | 20:55 |
| ajo | you can setup a monitoring interval (60 seconds by default) | 20:55 |
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| ajo | 60 sec will be the default, now it's disabled by default, sorry | 20:55 |
| RichardRaseley | ajo, ihrachyshka: Thank you for that information. So these processes are only (as of Juno) spawned when the network is actually created? | 20:55 |
| ihrachyshka | ah right, no func tests hence disabled. but the feature is there to try. | 20:56 |
| ajo | the actions can be "respawn", or.. "exit", where exit means exit the whole agent, because you want something else to take action | 20:56 |
| ajo | RichardRaseley, if gone, they could be restarted 1) when the agent restarts, or... in case of dhcp, when there are changes to the dhcp network (previously to this patch) | 20:56 |
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| RichardRaseley | ajo: Thank you. So a 'change' in the context of the dhcp network would be change in pool, routes, etc. (not just a dhcp request)? | 20:57 |
| ihrachyshka | RichardRaseley, check should_enable_metadata() method in neutron/agent/linux/dhcp.py | 20:57 |
| RichardRaseley | OK, thank you. | 20:57 |
| ajo | RichardRaseley, yes, any new port , new IP /MAC association triggers dnsmasq reload | 20:58 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, thanks | 20:58 |
| ajo | RichardRaseley, but not a new dhcp request/lease, etc... | 20:58 |
| ajo | just changes on the network that requires the dnsmasq config to be reloaded | 20:58 |
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| RichardRaseley | I am trying to envision a scenario where I have two or more dhcp agents deployed on two or more nodes (for HA purposes). In this situation only 1 ns-proxy would be spawned by the scheduler on one of the nodes running the dhcp agent? | 20:59 |
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| ajo | RichardRaseley, generally ns-proxy is spawned with the router | 21:00 |
| ajo | RichardRaseley, unless your network is isolated (no router) and you have the right options set on the dhcp_agent.ini | 21:00 |
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| ajo | (isolated_metadata_proxy or something like that) | 21:01 |
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| RichardRaseley | I am using 3rd party SDN. | 21:01 |
| ajo | ah, ok | 21:01 |
| RichardRaseley | Midonet to be specific. | 21:01 |
| ajo | aha | 21:01 |
| ajo | not sure how do they assemble the network :) | 21:01 |
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| ihrachyshka | yeah, that's pretty plugin specific | 21:01 |
| RichardRaseley | So you're saying that their code would be responsible for spawning the ns-proxies? | 21:02 |
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| ajo | RichardRaseley, yes, it could be | 21:02 |
| ihrachyshka | RichardRaseley, they may have their own dhcp and l3 agents, we just don't know | 21:02 |
| ihrachyshka | f.e. afaik vmware has their l3 agent | 21:02 |
| ajo | RichardRaseley, it depends on many factors, do they rely on neutron-l3-agent or neutron-dhcp-agent ? | 21:03 |
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| RichardRaseley | They do not rely on the l3 agent, I'll have to check on the dhcp-agent side. | 21:03 |
| ajo | do they set enable_isolated_metadata in dhcp_agent.ini ? | 21:03 |
| RichardRaseley | Yes | 21:03 |
| ajo | (only relevant if they use dhcp-agent) | 21:03 |
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| ajo | and only relevant if you're working with isolated networks (that means, a network with no gateway) | 21:04 |
| ajo | otherwise the metadata routing is left to the router | 21:04 |
| ajo | RichardRaseley, may be you should ask somebody from midonet for specifics, | 21:04 |
| ajo | there should be some of them in the channel, but don't know them | 21:04 |
| ihrachyshka | apuimedo, ^^? | 21:05 |
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| RichardRaseley | Here is one of their guide that touches on the relevant bits: http://docs.midonet.org/docs/latest/quick-start-guide/ubuntu-1404_juno/content/_network_node.html | 21:06 |
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| ajo | ah, right apuimedo ^ | 21:06 |
| RichardRaseley | So I define custom interface and dhcp drivers, but it isn't clear to me what that effect is. | 21:06 |
| ajo | he was with us, but he ran away to midonet O;) :D | 21:06 |
| RichardRaseley | =] | 21:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Stop using passed root_helper in ip_lib https://review.openstack.org/145829 | 21:14 |
| apuimedo | yup | 21:17 |
| apuimedo | I"m here | 21:17 |
| apuimedo | but about to have dinner with the wife | 21:17 |
| apuimedo | :P | 21:17 |
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| apuimedo | RichardRaseley: we usually hang out at #midonet | 21:18 |
| apuimedo | I'll be online in an hour or so | 21:18 |
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| apuimedo | and yes, the midonet agent serves the dhcp itself | 21:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove deprecated DEFAULT.root_helper https://review.openstack.org/153066 | 21:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Use processutils.execute for process execution https://review.openstack.org/153067 | 21:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Stop using passed root_helper in ip_lib https://review.openstack.org/145829 | 21:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: monkey patch stdlib before importing other modules https://review.openstack.org/153699 | 21:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | pritesh proposed openstack/neutron: Add vlan_tranparent attribute to network model https://review.openstack.org/153479 | 21:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Check conntrack rule cleanup on floating IP disassociate https://review.openstack.org/133934 | 21:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/neutron: Hyper-V Agent decomposition https://review.openstack.org/153259 | 21:34 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, around? | 21:35 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: yep | 21:35 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, so do you run 'tox -e pep8'? | 21:35 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, and it works? | 21:35 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: did ./runtests -p anyway | 21:35 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, I don't know what is runtests | 21:35 |
| ihrachyshka | have you checked tox -e pep8 specifically? | 21:36 |
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| otherwiseguy | it basically runs flake8 in the venv. | 21:36 |
| otherwiseguy | I'll try it. | 21:36 |
| ihrachyshka | well, maybe. but I wonder what's the difference in my system that makes it fail then | 21:36 |
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| ihrachyshka | we need to clear it first before merging your version, otherwise we may break someone else too | 21:36 |
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| ihrachyshka | even if it will for some reason pass in gate (f.e. because your systems are somehow identical) | 21:37 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: i basically pushed my version just to see why my system was working. :) | 21:38 |
| ihrachyshka | yeah, that would be a valuable experimentation | 21:38 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: how did yours fail? | 21:38 |
| ihrachyshka | but what if it passes. it wouldn't answer the question of why it stucks on my side | 21:38 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, it does not fail, it just hangs on flake8 step | 21:38 |
| ihrachyshka | forever | 21:38 |
| ihrachyshka | no cpu load, nothing, just 5 processes sitting in process tree | 21:39 |
| openstackgerrit | pritesh proposed openstack/neutron: Add vlan_transparent attribute to network model https://review.openstack.org/153479 | 21:39 |
| ihrachyshka | does it spawn multiple workers for you? | 21:39 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: I tried pushing pretty hard to argue for the oslo.processutils change, but they were pushing back pretty hard. | 21:39 |
| ihrachyshka | how many cores do you have btw? | 21:39 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, I will get to oslo.conc patch later on Mon :) | 21:39 |
| ihrachyshka | I'll try to convince them, we'll see ;) | 21:39 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: ah, this vm only has 1 core enabled. | 21:40 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, so that may be the case. it works for me when I add -j 1 to flake8 | 21:40 |
| ihrachyshka | which means 'one job worker' | 21:40 |
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| ihrachyshka | (in that case it does not fork workers at all but reuses the same process) | 21:40 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: probably wouldn't be hard to just specifically not monkey_patch when doing flake8. | 21:41 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, can you add -j 2 in tox.ini and retry? | 21:41 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, well, not sure how you detect whether it's flake8 mode | 21:41 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, we could also just move hacking rules out of neutron/... | 21:41 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: I believe the oslo guys mentioned setting an environment variable in tox.ini. | 21:42 |
| ihrachyshka | or we add monkey_patch() to neutron/cmd/__init__.py and move all service main()s there (as they do for nova or ceilometer) | 21:42 |
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| ihrachyshka | but that would require lots of patches and may introduce some mess in the tree since then we may have some plugin specific stuff for plugin specific agents in common neutron/cmd/... | 21:43 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, I could miss, will take a look later. | 21:43 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: yeah, that was why I was really hoping the neutron/__init__.py or the processutils patch would work. :p | 21:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed openstack/neutron: Automate host configuration for functional testing https://review.openstack.org/146113 | 21:43 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, ok, need to go :) thanks for the chat anyway. | 21:44 |
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| otherwiseguy | I just want it to work as easily as possible. I may also just drop the processutils patch. | 21:44 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: ok. thanks! later! | 21:44 |
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| ekarlso | mestery: any stuff on pecan for you guys yet ? | 21:47 |
| mestery | ekarlso: Ping kevinbenton for that, he's busy hacking on it as we speak :) | 21:48 |
| ekarlso | :p | 21:48 |
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| kevinbenton | ekarlso: sorry about the delay on getting something for you to see, based on the amount of stuff we have to change policy enforcement might not come for a while | 21:50 |
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| kevinbenton | ekarlso: the new api would go in as something that can be switched to while it's being developed | 21:51 |
| kevinbenton | ekarlso: rather than instantly replacing the old one | 21:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/neutron: Add mtu attributes to network model https://review.openstack.org/153451 | 21:51 |
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| flashgordon | anteaya: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147723/ as merged ! | 21:53 |
| anteaya | it is merged | 21:55 |
| anteaya | I did a happy dance | 21:55 |
| anteaya | and then celebrated with a 10k walk | 21:55 |
| anteaya | so happy | 21:55 |
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| flashgordon | https://i.imgur.com/R3wpf.gif | 21:55 |
| anteaya | that too | 21:56 |
| mestery | flashgordon anteaya: Yay! :) | 21:56 |
| anteaya | love those penguins | 21:56 |
| anteaya | mestery: yay | 21:56 |
| mestery | ++ | 21:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: monkey patch stdlib before importing other modules https://review.openstack.org/153699 | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove deprecated DEFAULT.root_helper https://review.openstack.org/153066 | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Use processutils.execute for process execution https://review.openstack.org/153067 | 22:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Stop using passed root_helper in ip_lib https://review.openstack.org/145829 | 22:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Remove RPC dependency to create FIP agent gw port https://review.openstack.org/153729 | 23:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timothy Swanson proposed openstack/neutron: Add MTU selection & advertisement settings to Neutron config. https://review.openstack.org/153733 | 23:55 |
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