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| anteaya | mestery: please remove plumgrid ci from the voting group: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/510,members | 00:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ping | 00:01 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I’m starting to pack up to ride home. | 00:01 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: ok, I'll keep working on this. Still working on testing the cleanup | 00:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | I’ll be on later this evening. | 00:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Later | 00:04 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: enjoy | 00:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks, later. | 00:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Prepare to functionally test OVSDB interfaces https://review.openstack.org/153385 | 00:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Use ovsdb-api neutral column/value mappings https://review.openstack.org/153387 | 00:15 |
| mestery | anteaya: Done! | 00:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed openstack/neutron: Fix testr result processing in post_test_hook https://review.openstack.org/154131 | 00:25 |
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| anteaya | mestery: then we need to ensure there is a follow up to the ml from zelle | 00:38 |
| anteaya | so they know how to get themselves back | 00:38 |
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| yamamoto | is it a way to give a patch with a new requirement (ie which would require global-req change) a jenkins run? | 01:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: ofagent: Vendor code decomposition https://review.openstack.org/149941 | 02:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: test_l2population: Use a local copy of ofagent mech driver https://review.openstack.org/150239 | 02:16 |
| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: ofagent: Vendor code decomposition https://review.openstack.org/149941 | 02:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Xu Han Peng proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add ip_version to extra dhcp opts https://review.openstack.org/142015 | 02:23 |
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| xuhanp | arosen, ping | 02:24 |
| arosen | xuhanp: pong | 02:24 |
| xuhanp | arosen, can you take a look at my reply at patch 3 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151181/ ? | 02:24 |
| xuhanp | Thanks a lot! | 02:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-agent: Use python binding instead of ovs-ofctl command https://review.openstack.org/153946 | 02:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add vlan_transparent attribute to network model https://review.openstack.org/153479 | 02:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor radvd control in the l3-agent https://review.openstack.org/154162 | 03:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dane LeBlanc proposed openstack/neutron: Support Multiple IPv6 Prefixes and Addresses for IPv6 Network https://review.openstack.org/149068 | 03:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-agent: Use python binding instead of ovs-ofctl command https://review.openstack.org/153946 | 03:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yushiro FURUKAWA proposed openstack/neutron: Enable to apply policies to resources with special plural https://review.openstack.org/145998 | 03:54 |
| yamamoto | where DVR_NOT_LEARN_VLAN table is documented? | 03:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: OVS DVR: Use a right mac address value to compose a flow https://review.openstack.org/154330 | 04:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Robert Kukura proposed openstack/neutron: ML2: DB changes for hierarchical port binding https://review.openstack.org/116122 | 04:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Robert Kukura proposed openstack/neutron: ML2: Hierarchical port binding https://review.openstack.org/116209 | 04:06 |
| openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Implementation of Mcafee NGFW Driver https://review.openstack.org/152093 | 04:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Don't crash when adding duplicate gre allocation https://review.openstack.org/152598 | 04:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Reorganize OVSDB API https://review.openstack.org/153384 | 04:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Remove duplication for exception - part 1 https://review.openstack.org/153543 | 05:47 |
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| trinaths | Hi All, Good Morning | 05:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Fix lack of device ownership enforcement for DVR routers https://review.openstack.org/153452 | 06:08 |
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| claudiub | hello. any neutron core for a 1 line important bug-fix? | 11:24 |
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| sam22 | I have a basic question | 11:25 |
| sam22 | what is the difference between driver and plugin in openstack context | 11:25 |
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| trinaths | sam22: driver is a minimal implementation and plugin is a complete specific implementation | 11:37 |
| sam22 | <trinaths> thanks | 11:38 |
| sam22 | <trinaths> could you please give a simple example from openstack | 11:38 |
| sam22 | <trinaths> for driver and plugin | 11:39 |
| sam22 | <trinaths> Every driver will havea plugin, right ? | 11:39 |
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| claudiub | sam22: yeah, pretty much, although there are a couple of drivers / agents that use the ML2 plugin | 11:53 |
| claudiub | sam22: so, it's not a 1-to-1 link | 11:53 |
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| sam22 | <claudiub> still confusing. Could you please give a basic example for both | 11:54 |
| sam22 | <claudiub> I want to understand the term | 11:55 |
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| sam22 | why we need driver ? what it does ? | 11:56 |
| sam22 | why we need plugin ? what it does ? | 11:56 |
| sam22 | sorry , i know this is a basic quest | 11:57 |
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| trinaths | sam22: Driver - Example ML2 Drivers . - ML2 is a plugin with the core implementation. All the Driver use a the results of core implementation. | 12:03 |
| trinaths | sam22: Plugin- Example vmware, ml2, cisco, mlnx etc .. - Refer to individual specific implementation of a core abstract. | 12:03 |
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| trinaths | sam22: for driver, refer, ML2 drivers and *aaS drivers | 12:06 |
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| ihrachyshka | akamyshnikova, hey! I have a question on default sec group | 12:30 |
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| akamyshnikova | ihrachyshka, hi | 12:34 |
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| ihrachyshka | akamyshnikova, I'm recently thinking about how to mitigate dup def sec groups for stable branches. What do you think of introducing some db global lock around create_security_group() callers that would guarantee that only one of those is running? | 12:35 |
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| akamyshnikova | ihrachyshka, that's interesting, but we should be careful with locks, to be honest I forgot to research what can be done for stable branches, have you tried something? | 12:39 |
| ihrachyshka | akamyshnikova, for now I just read some nova and neutron code to get grasp of it. so my current idea to check is db-lock wrapper, but I wanted to check with you first on whether you see any obvious issues with it, since you should understand the part of the code a lot better now than most of us :) | 12:41 |
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| ihrachyshka | akamyshnikova, btw how have you reproduced the issue? | 12:44 |
| ihrachyshka | akamyshnikova, parallel boot of instances? or maybe you have some more limited usecase just for neutron? | 12:45 |
| akamyshnikova | ihrachyshka, I think Mike Bayer is the one who knew much better all of this :) I reproduce this just in db by inserting into table sec groups rows with the same tenant id and name default | 12:47 |
| akamyshnikova | ihrachyshka, then I ran my migration to check result | 12:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/neutron: Enhance IpRouteCommand class to support IPv6 routes https://review.openstack.org/154451 | 12:47 |
| ihrachyshka | akamyshnikova, have you checked parallel create attempts? I think this is the part that your change is actually fixing (migration is more of a way to achieve this). though maybe code inspection is enough for the patch you had. | 12:49 |
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| ihrachyshka | akamyshnikova, I'm afraid that locking fix won't be complete since it won't work fine for multiple server instances running in parallel, but at least single instance case should be ok (hopefully) | 12:52 |
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| ihrachyshka | well, for single node / multiple workers, it may actually work if we use fcntl based locks, but not for distributed workers :| | 12:54 |
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| akamyshnikova | ihrachyshka, I think we need to try this ;) because it sounds reasonable, I promise to look for what else could be done today | 12:57 |
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| ihrachyshka | akamyshnikova, ok, I'll try to apply some quickhack patches, and we'll see how it goes in gate ;) | 13:00 |
| ihrachyshka | akamyshnikova, thanks for the chat | 13:00 |
| akamyshnikova | ihrachyshka, that's great! will look for a link to them :) | 13:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: Add devices to update in RPC call security_groups_provider_updated https://review.openstack.org/148235 | 13:07 |
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| moshele | mestery: hi | 13:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor the ProcessMonitor API https://review.openstack.org/154464 | 13:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhang Hua proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: IPsec strongSwan driver implemention https://review.openstack.org/144391 | 13:12 |
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| ajo | ihrachyshka, mestery , HenryG , markmcclain : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154464/1/neutron/agent/linux/external_process.py | 13:17 |
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| ajo | cleaning up the ProcessMonitor API | 13:18 |
| ajo | to reduce coupling to ProcessManager, | 13:18 |
| ajo | in pair coding with mkolesni :) | 13:18 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, pair coding remotely. :) which editor do you guys use? | 13:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhang Hua proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: IPsec strongSwan driver implemention https://review.openstack.org/144391 | 13:19 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka screen + vim :) | 13:19 |
| ihrachyshka | RIGHT :) | 13:19 |
| ihrachyshka | with vim, there should be some external communication channel | 13:20 |
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| ajo | ihrachyshka: sshing the same server, and then using screen shared session :) | 13:21 |
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| ihrachyshka | ajo, yeah, but what if guy#1 pressed 5, and another one 'd' :) | 13:21 |
| ihrachyshka | or similar | 13:21 |
| ihrachyshka | anyway | 13:21 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, then we hit u | 13:21 |
| ajo | :D | 13:21 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, it's been nice | 13:22 |
| ajo | we've explored like 5 ways of making the API | 13:22 |
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| ajo | until reaching this | 13:22 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, checking how did it look on the caller side for all the agents, etc.. | 13:22 |
| ajo | this seemed like the less coupled to "ProcessManager" and it looked well on the agents | 13:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Belous proposed openstack/neutron: Reduce db calls count in get_devices_details_list https://review.openstack.org/154116 | 13:26 |
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| ajo | mestery: I changed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/agent-child-processes-status to "Needs Code Reviews and kilo-3" because keepalive support was still missing, and we're proposing an API change before finishing the cycle (to avoid later backport burden) | 13:28 |
| mestery | ajo: Make sense, move it to kilo-3 too, thanks! | 13:31 |
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| moshele | mestery: hi | 13:37 |
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| anteaya | emagana: if we don't get to it during the meeting, can we talk afterward? | 14:00 |
| emagana | anteaya: for sure! | 14:00 |
| anteaya | emagana: thanks | 14:01 |
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| pkarikh | Hi all! Does anybody know which set of permissions should have user in Horizon to be able to call router_list() neutron api method? The closest thing I've found is '"get_network:router:external"' from neutron_policy.json in Horizon. But I'm not sure if it is the right rule. | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Add index on tenant_id https://review.openstack.org/154492 | 14:29 |
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| akamyshnikova | sbelous, hi | 14:33 |
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| emagana | anteaya: could we start our chat? I need to leave soon! It's my daughter's birthday | 14:59 |
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| anteaya | emagana: oh wonderful | 15:00 |
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| anteaya | okay I'll sum it up | 15:00 |
| anteaya | we need to find someone to attend the migration weekly meeting 0900 on tuesdays | 15:00 |
| anteaya | and help you with documentation | 15:00 |
| armax | markmcclain: ping | 15:00 |
| emagana | 0900 UTC | 15:01 |
| ajo | otherwiseguy, markmcclain , otherwiseguy , marun, yes... co-gating is complicated | 15:01 |
| anteaya | and I need to have something ready for sdague for the ops meetup | 15:01 |
| anteaya | emagana: yes | 15:01 |
| markmcclain | armax: pong | 15:01 |
| marun | ajo: no, go-gating is braindead | 15:01 |
| anteaya | emagana: so two topics | 15:01 |
| emagana | anteaya: Yeap, that is hard for me to attend! | 15:01 |
| marun | oops, *I'm* braindead | 15:01 |
| ajo | :D | 15:01 |
| ajo | marun, it seems you're liking go :D | 15:01 |
| marun | ajo: if only | 15:01 |
| anteaya | emagana: I know, but we need someone to represent docs at the meetings, so we can make decisions and have discussions | 15:01 |
| marun | ajo: co-gating is a failed strategy | 15:01 |
| armax | markmcclain: what is the underlying problem identified as ‘penstack tooling does not play nicely with projects that are not publicly available in pypi.’ | 15:02 |
| marun | ajo: nobody in their right mind would do it if they knew the consequences | 15:02 |
| anteaya | emagana: obondarev is already stretched thin, so it is time we have someone with docs knowledge | 15:02 |
| armax | markmcclain: is it just caching? | 15:02 |
| ajo | marun, it keeps all projects consistent all the time, but makes our lifes very complicated for api changes | 15:02 |
| emagana | anteaya: Do you have someone in mind already? | 15:02 |
| anteaya | emagana: how do we get someone, is there anyone in networking docs in eu or au? | 15:02 |
| markmcclain | armax: right.. but even if the server we're available on pypi | 15:02 |
| marun | ajo: the cost is too great | 15:02 |
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| dougwig | Completely not co gating is crazy. Too many cooks, too few people with a good overview. It's a need until we start enforcing api contract. | 15:02 |
| ajo | marun, needing to workaround .. which is expensive | 15:02 |
| anteaya | emagana: no, otherwise I would have talked to that person | 15:02 |
| ajo | exactly | 15:02 |
| emagana | anteaya: I will need to ask around | 15:02 |
| marun | dougwig: no, it's not | 15:02 |
| marun | dougwig: software development occurs without co-gating all the time | 15:02 |
| anteaya | emagana: please do, i need someone in apac, ru, au or eu | 15:03 |
| armax | markmcclain: I sense you needed to finish the sentence? | 15:03 |
| anteaya | emagana: otherwise they will not be able to attend meetings reliably | 15:03 |
| emagana | anteaya: ok! I will also ask the Doc cores | 15:03 |
| marun | dougwig: the solution is to merge to a given project without co-gating, but then have an additional integration process that fixes problems as they are introduced | 15:03 |
| anteaya | emagana: thanks | 15:03 |
| dougwig | Not with the spaghetti mess we have. Otherwise guys example is a case where it saved break everything. It's too soon. | 15:03 |
| ajo | marun, dougwig , I agree that we should think of an strategy different to co-gating | 15:03 |
| marun | dougwig: no doubt that we need some stability concerns, but that doesn't solve the pain of co-gating | 15:03 |
| anteaya | emagana: so now, the getting something ready for the ops meetup | 15:03 |
| markmcclain | armax: yes… even if we were tagging releases unless all components had the same dep we'd be in a dependency hell | 15:03 |
| marun | dougwig: this bs mess of jobs we have to run that fail all the time? not helping our velocity. | 15:03 |
| anteaya | emagana: do you have what you need to get started documenting the merged portion of the spec? | 15:04 |
| marun | dougwig: it's always too soon | 15:04 |
| markmcclain | if we extract out bits to a lib we can break the knot | 15:04 |
| armax | markmcclain: agreed | 15:04 |
| emagana | anteaya: Yes, I do! at least to start | 15:04 |
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| armax | markmcclain: most sensible end goal would be to depend on the released versions | 15:04 |
| marun | dougwig: co-gating is based on the assumption that individual projects don't care about openstack as a whole and need to be forced to care. | 15:04 |
| otherwiseguy | The co-gating thing boils down to whether or not we can change an API and the non-tree things just have to deal with it and fix it, or if we basically just can't change the API. Cause it is *really* hard to change the API and get tests to go through right now. | 15:04 |
| emagana | anteaya: I have my calendar booked already this week to push the first commit | 15:04 |
| marun | dougwig: I think that's a toxic assumption. | 15:04 |
| ajo | marun, what about co-gating during the end of each cycle after making sure cross-API-calls are stabilized? | 15:04 |
| dougwig | Right, but we need a strategy in place first. Not just break the world and assume unicorns will come to the rescue. All that does is throw the dependent projects under the bus | 15:04 |
| ajo | so we asure no breaking API changes happen by the end of the cycle? | 15:05 |
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| marun | dougwig: a strategy, sure. | 15:05 |
| marun | dougwig: there's no strategy at present. | 15:05 |
| ajo | yeah | 15:05 |
| dougwig | Neutron does have to be forced to care. Sorry, but it doesn't. | 15:05 |
| marun | dougwig: everyone is waiting on better testing, but nobody is really focusing on testing. | 15:05 |
| anteaya | emagana: okay great | 15:05 |
| anteaya | emagana: do ping me once that happens so I can track your progress | 15:05 |
| marun | dougwig: in the current mode, there is no incentive to care | 15:05 |
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| emagana | anteaya: I will include you as reviewer as well as obondarev | 15:06 |
| dougwig | The incentive is wanting to merge. | 15:06 |
| marun | dougwig: there's pain no matter which way we turn, so the default is to just shut down | 15:06 |
| anteaya | emagana: do you think you have enough time to get it in shape before the ops meetup? | 15:06 |
| marun | dougwig: you know what else is incentive? | 15:06 |
| anteaya | emagana: ah that doesn't always help me, can you ping me in irc with the url of the patch? | 15:06 |
| emagana | anteaya: For sure! | 15:06 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:06 |
| marun | dougwig: wanting to be able to be a part of a good software product | 15:06 |
| dougwig | Increasing merge velocity by rapidly destabilizing is not better | 15:06 |
| emagana | anteaya: I will ping you in IRC | 15:06 |
| marun | dougwig: co-gating is a bandaid on that particular problem | 15:06 |
| marun | dougwig: I call bs | 15:06 |
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| armax | markmcclain, marun, dougwig is the sensible path forward to define a neutronlib? | 15:07 |
| anteaya | emagana: let's you and I make a point of talking every week so we are in sync | 15:07 |
| anteaya | emagana: fair? | 15:07 |
| markmcclain | armax: yes | 15:07 |
| marun | dougwig: I'm not talking about rapidly destabilizing. I'm talking about being able to move quickly enough that the overhead of context switching isn't so punishing. | 15:07 |
| dougwig | We have to put out the fire before rebuilding. You seem to want to pour gas on it | 15:07 |
| otherwiseguy | dougwig: Like removing the root_helper argument: I had to 1) Make the RH removal patch accept the RH arg as a kwarg, then do nothing with it 2) Update all external projects to pass RH as a kwarg 3) The RH patch can now pass tests, and can be merged 4) Remove RH arg from *aaS repos 5) Remove root_helper arg from neutron. | 15:07 |
| emagana | anteaya: fair enough! Let's said Monday's? | 15:07 |
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| ajo | armax, what do you mean by neutronlib? shared code between advc services, plugins and neutron? | 15:07 |
| armax | ajo: ya | 15:07 |
| armax | sorta | 15:07 |
| ajo | ahh, nice | 15:07 |
| markmcclain | but in the interim we'll prob have to ride the git tracking branches | 15:08 |
| anteaya | emagana: sounds good, thank you | 15:08 |
| armax | markmcclain: do you know of anyone actively working/thinking about this? | 15:08 |
| markmcclain | I've been thinking about this from some time | 15:08 |
| anteaya | emagana: if you run into obstacles, don't stay quiet | 15:08 |
| marun | dougwig: Do you honestly think I don't care about the quality of OpenStack? | 15:08 |
| dougwig | otherwiseguy: as opposed to just breaking the service repos and letting them be broken for at least a few days? That's better? | 15:08 |
| markmcclain | but the lack of interface made designing the lib messy | 15:08 |
| emagana | anteaya: ok! I need to run. I will ping you this Friday with my progress! Have a good day! | 15:08 |
| armax | markmcclain: agreed | 15:08 |
| anteaya | emagana: thanks, happy birthday to your daughter | 15:09 |
| emagana | anteaya: Thanks! | 15:09 |
| otherwiseguy | dougwig: As opposed to me just removing from both repos at the same time. | 15:09 |
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| armax | do we need to make progress between now and summit do you reckon? | 15:09 |
| armax | markmcclain: or we just park the issue for summit discussion? | 15:09 |
| marun | we shouldn't be gating on *aas. it's an accident that we are | 15:09 |
| dougwig | This isn't about whether you care. It's about whether 100 people making possibly breaking changes can ever be stable downstream, if we don't help them see it | 15:09 |
| markmcclain | armax: I thinking we coud park it until FF | 15:09 |
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| armax | markmcclain: fair point | 15:10 |
| marun | dougwig: This happens all the time outside of openstack. | 15:10 |
| armax | alaski: ping | 15:10 |
| marun | dougwig: people don't care right now. we need to give them reason to care | 15:10 |
| alaski | armax: hi | 15:10 |
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| dougwig | otherwiseguy: how many people would check if they broke other repos? | 15:10 |
| marun | dougwig: pain is one reason. | 15:10 |
| markmcclain | armax: I think we have a good idea of what we want, but I get the sense there are few lessons we haven't learned yet | 15:10 |
| armax | markmcclain: something to ponder on… | 15:10 |
| marun | dougwig: relief from pain (i.e. dropping co-cating) is another | 15:10 |
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| otherwiseguy | dougwig: Perhaps a test that can tell you that a patch will break other projects before merging, but doesn't keep you from merging? | 15:11 |
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| armax | markmcclain: agreed..pulling from branches was always deemed as an interim solution, especially for packaging reasons, in my view...b | 15:11 |
| marun | otherwiseguy: yeah, people don't actually care about that. we've proven it | 15:11 |
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| markmcclain | marun: co-gating was a key component of the services split.. to ensure the deployers weren't screwed by it in Kilo | 15:11 |
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| armax | I hope that the infra guys will be lenient with us for a little longer | 15:11 |
| dougwig | That's not relief. That's burying your head in the sand. Even today, people break the unit tests every other day. They do not fix them. Removing tempest would make it even worse | 15:11 |
| ajo | if co-gating, may be we should be able to co-reference Change-IDs, to let them gate together towards merging... | 15:12 |
| otherwiseguy | It just seems like we could get in a situation where it was literally impossible to make some kind of API change. | 15:12 |
| ajo | but that may require interesting changes in the gate | 15:12 |
| marun | dougwig: there would appear to be a pretty clear incentive for you to remove that dependency, then. | 15:12 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, that's if we know they are interrelated | 15:12 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, most breakages are unintented | 15:12 |
| marun | dougwig: freedom comes at a price, and I was under the impression that you thought it was worth paying. | 15:12 |
| otherwiseguy | I found a way around it for my particular change, but... | 15:12 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka exactly, yes, you break, you discover, you add the inter-related change, and reference both changes | 15:12 |
| dougwig | Right, your sOlution is to screw others so they'll fix it | 15:13 |
| marun | dougwig: yeah, that's it. I'm out to screw you. | 15:13 |
| marun | *sigh* | 15:13 |
| dougwig | The co gate is in the approved spec | 15:13 |
| otherwiseguy | Treating neutron as a submodule that you could update to known working versions seems like a solution. | 15:13 |
| markmcclain | ajo: cross repo change deps is something that's long be wanted.. right now folks work around by pushing special devstack checkouts | 15:13 |
| ajo | markmcclain, ouch :) | 15:13 |
| marun | co-gating is a stop-gap. it sucks, it makes things worse in so many ways. we'll endure it only as long as we need to. | 15:13 |
| markmcclain | otherwiseguy: submodules are a world of hurt | 15:13 |
| ajo | dougwig, may be it's not that awful, if we set a good strategy... | 15:14 |
| dougwig | Your solution is to force pain on another team to indent them to fix your teams problem. Yes, that's screwing. It's too soon | 15:14 |
| ajo | like for example, the "breaker" needs to colaborate on fixing it... | 15:14 |
| dougwig | Incent | 15:14 |
| markmcclain | otherwiseguy: and I really wish they worked :) | 15:14 |
| ajo | and it's a tracked thing | 15:14 |
| ajo | the bad part is when several breaking changes happen... that's probably untrackable | 15:14 |
| otherwiseguy | markmcclain: Anything can be a world of hurt if you don't use them just right. I've seen projects use them effectively. | 15:14 |
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| otherwiseguy | But yes, they are tricky. | 15:14 |
| marun | otherwiseguy: submodules are a touchy subject in openstack. I would suggest avoiding. | 15:15 |
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| otherwiseguy | :) | 15:15 |
| dougwig | We are well into touchy land here. :) | 15:15 |
| salv-orlando | I also had good and bad experiences with sub-modules. But here we're not talking about the technology, but rather about the teams using it. | 15:15 |
| markmcclain | otherwiseguy: yeah… if we were a tight team of 4-5 ppl then submodules would be my preference.. but for 500 ppl I expect pain | 15:15 |
| ajo | dougwig ':) we are | 15:15 |
| otherwiseguy | marun: I figured with the whole we just copy parts of openstack common into the tree thing. :) | 15:15 |
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| salv-orlando | I'd say that for reasons which are not entirely clear to me.. git submodules do not fit the openstack community philosophy | 15:16 |
| dougwig | Infra has a patch out to have cross repo changes run together in Jenkins, btw | 15:16 |
| dougwig | That would help a ton. | 15:16 |
| ajo | dougwig, that's interesting | 15:16 |
| watanabe_isao | kevinbenton, good morning(?) | 15:16 |
| salv-orlando | In cases like this I tend to agree with the guy with the shotgun... less likely I'd get shot ;) | 15:17 |
| otherwiseguy | salv-orlando: It usually seems to come down to people being used to svn:externals and expecting submodules to be those when they aren't, in my experience. | 15:17 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: yes git submodules are not used | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Add index on tenant_id https://review.openstack.org/143120 | 15:17 |
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| dougwig | And we need a solid plan for l to break this nonsense, so we can get to Maruns plan | 15:17 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: and I am unable to clearly articulate the reasons, but they exist | 15:17 |
| dougwig | l | 15:17 |
| dougwig | Dang it. iPad keyboard is painful | 15:18 |
| marun | dougwig: re: cross-repo change, how would that work? | 15:18 |
| salv-orlando | anteaya: I know there are pro and cons. I was just pointing out that for this community the cons apparently had more weight than the pros. | 15:18 |
| anteaya | the commit messgae headers, marun | 15:18 |
| amuller | akamyshnikova: Hey Ann - I reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153953/ | 15:18 |
| anteaya | zuul is becoming aware of them | 15:18 |
| ajo | I need to AFK, see you later ;) | 15:18 |
| amuller | akamyshnikova: Also sent you an email with some more ideas | 15:18 |
| marun | anteaya: and would these patches be able to land at the same time? | 15:18 |
| anteaya | marun: like depends-on and needed-by | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: WIP Move port processing to router classes https://review.openstack.org/154513 | 15:18 |
| dougwig | It's like a dependent review, but in the git commit messages | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Remove port from ovsdb after its deletion https://review.openstack.org/143865 | 15:19 |
| anteaya | marun: I'm foggy on the exact algorithm, but that is the idea | 15:19 |
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| marun | anteaya: wow, that's news | 15:19 |
| dougwig | It means one set of changes, not the three part dance of compatibility | 15:19 |
| anteaya | marun: I defer to fungi for exact details | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: WIP Move port processing to router classes https://review.openstack.org/154513 | 15:19 |
| anteaya | marun: yes it isn't deployed yet, but it is close | 15:19 |
| dougwig | I can link it here when I'm on a real computer | 15:19 |
| anteaya | it might get some discussion in today's infra meeting if folks want to attend | 15:20 |
| akamyshnikova | amuller, great! thanks a lot for such detailed comments! I was looking forward it :) | 15:20 |
| marun | I was under the impression that it would be technically infeasible to land a breaking change in one repo and the fix in another. I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that's not the case. | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | marun: well I won't go that far | 15:20 |
| marun | anteaya: no? | 15:20 |
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| marun | :/ | 15:21 |
| anteaya | marun: since all I know is that zuul is becoming aware of headers | 15:21 |
| dougwig | They land in parallel. | 15:21 |
| amuller | akamyshnikova: I should have written that test myself in the original bugfix | 15:21 |
| amuller | I don't like this habit of writing tests after patches are merged | 15:21 |
| amuller | it shouldn't be allowed I think | 15:21 |
| anteaya | marun: like I said, I defer to folks acually working on this for the exact details | 15:21 |
| maishsk | hello all - can anyone point me to a some documentation as to how VMware currently works with a DvSwitch? Not NSX. | 15:21 |
| anteaya | marun: I'm saying I am aware of the work but don't know the details | 15:21 |
| marun | dougwig: I'm hoping that's true. That sure would make managing dependency across repos much easier. | 15:21 |
| maishsk | I know there are blueprints proposed to change this | 15:21 |
| marun | anteaya: I'm optimistic that dougwig's assertions as to the feature are correct :) | 15:22 |
| anteaya | marun: me too, but I won't hold him to it | 15:22 |
| moshele | armax: hi | 15:22 |
| anteaya | since I haven't even seen the code myself | 15:22 |
| armax | moshele: hi | 15:22 |
| * anteaya has been in meetings and meetings | 15:22 | |
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| moshele | armax: we (mellanox) would like to re-design the mlnx MD and agent to work as the sriov-nic-switch and to add infiniband support. | 15:23 |
| armax | ok | 15:23 |
| moshele | armax: the mlnx MD backed logic is already out of tree, but we need to change configuration file and mlnx MD in neutron. | 15:23 |
| moshele | armax: what is the new process for that do we need blueprint or it can be just bug fix for neutron? | 15:23 |
| armax | moshele: do the changes affect just the mlxn MD part? | 15:23 |
| marun | dougwig: my apologies for being agro about co-gating. The pain it has caused openstack is immeasurable and I don't think it can go away soon enough for the larger project. For *aas, you're right that we need it right now. | 15:23 |
| moshele | armax: yes | 15:24 |
| moshele | armax: no, md and agent | 15:24 |
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| armax | moshele: right, but that’s still confined to the mlxn specific code? | 15:24 |
| itzikb | Anyone familiar with DVR can explain me why l2poulation is a requirement? | 15:25 |
| marun | amuller: +1 to requiring tests before merge. Feel free to block any patch that you think should be better tested. | 15:25 |
| otherwiseguy | dougwig: I'm happy with any solution that doesn't turn an essentially 1-step process into a 5-step one. First you take the chicken over, then come back and take the fox over, bringing back the chicken, then take the feed over, then go back and bring the chicken... | 15:25 |
| otherwiseguy | amuller: Except mine. :p | 15:25 |
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| dougwig | Agree on the pain. If the current gate was a third party ci, its account would've been disabled by now. :). I share the concern, just differ on timing in this case. | 15:26 |
| armax | moshele: I think that a bug fix should suffice | 15:26 |
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| moshele | armax: we plan to inherent from sriov md and agent so all the old logic will be remove | 15:26 |
| dougwig | otherwiseguy: oh heck yes | 15:27 |
| moshele | armax: also can it be for kilo? | 15:28 |
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| otherwiseguy | arosen: btw, due to a spurious gate failure, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153385/ didn't make it through the gate. I used the opportunity to address one of Maru's concerns. It now has 1 +2 :) | 15:31 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: ping | 15:31 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, pong | 15:32 |
| HenryG | ihrachyshka: About backward compat when moving driver code | 15:32 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, sure, I think you just need another entry_points | 15:32 |
| HenryG | ihrachyshka: opendaylight mech driver moved and did not do this? | 15:33 |
| armax | moshele: Kilo is doable, we’d need to see the extent of the change | 15:33 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, that may be the case, I was going to walk thru the list of decomposed plugins before kilo-3 | 15:33 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: OK. But it is still not clear to me what the bw compat entry_point should be? | 15:35 |
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| moshele | armax: ok, once I will have something working I will publish it and then you can decide | 15:37 |
| armax | moshele: thanks | 15:37 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, hm, that case is more interesting that oslo.messaging one, you have : there. I will talk to Doug from stevedore first. | 15:39 |
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| amotoki | ihrachyshka: HenryG: what is the requirement to be backward compat? If stevedore is used, it is enough an entry point is unchnaged. If neutron plugin case, we need to keep its python path itself. | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Lionel Zerbib proposed openstack/neutron: First security-group-brute-force-prevention version https://review.openstack.org/154535 | 15:47 |
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| ihrachyshka | amotoki, HenryG, I've talked to dhellmann on #openstack-oslo, it seems we're actually good here, oslo.messaging case was a bit special and different. | 15:48 |
| amotoki | ihrachyshka: ah I got it. you are talking about oslo.messaging. will check your coversation. | 15:49 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: You have lost me. I didn't know I had an oslo.messaging case? | 15:52 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, ehm, sorry, I referred to https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/setup.cfg#L189 | 15:52 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, I've removed -1, sorry for the hassle | 15:53 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: No worries at all, it's always good to be careful | 15:55 |
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| claudiub_ | hello. any neutron core around, available to do a simple 1 line bug fix? :D | 16:07 |
| claudiub_ | do a review on a simple 1 line bug fix * | 16:07 |
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| rcarrillocruz | hey folks | 16:13 |
| rcarrillocruz | question | 16:13 |
| rcarrillocruz | in a tenant network, is it possible to have two routers and have some load-balancing mechanism, so packets are evenly distributed? | 16:14 |
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| rcarrillocruz | not sure if there's such functionality yet in neutron | 16:14 |
| claudiub_ | dvr? | 16:16 |
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| claudiub_ | distributed virtual routers? | 16:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: Add devices to update in RPC call security_groups_provider_updated https://review.openstack.org/148235 | 16:17 |
| rcarrillocruz | so | 16:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | that's how it's called? | 16:18 |
| rcarrillocruz | a dvr? | 16:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: L2 agent RPC add bulk calls for device up and device down https://review.openstack.org/147435 | 16:20 |
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| sc68cal | enikanorov__: ping | 16:21 |
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| banix | enikanorov: are you still working on this bug assigned to you: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1373634 enikanorov__ | 16:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1373634 in neutron "ML2 plugin bulk operations require multiple notifications being sent for sec group member updates" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Eugene Nikanorov (enikanorov) | 16:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Erik Colnick proposed openstack/neutron: Fix for handling L3rpcCallback methods in rpc_worker processes https://review.openstack.org/154497 | 16:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yatin Kumbhare proposed openstack/neutron: opencontrail extension support https://review.openstack.org/145290 | 16:35 |
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| flaviof | hello. sorry for the interrupt, but is there a comitter here who could workflow+1 the following gerrit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153703/ ? | 16:40 |
| flaviof | much obligated | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove VPN specific exception https://review.openstack.org/153757 | 16:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Lavalle proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor management of namespaces in the L3 Agent https://review.openstack.org/147744 | 16:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce External IPAM Interface https://review.openstack.org/134339 | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/154179 | 17:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shiv Haris proposed openstack/neutron: Do not review. https://review.openstack.org/152383 | 17:10 |
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| otherwiseguy | marun: Hmm, I saw this eventlet timeout once as a spurious failure in a gate test, now seem to be getting it all the time when running test_l3_agent functional test. http://ur1.ca/jp0m7 The linked version is using the processutils.execute, but I get the same error on master with regular neutron.utils.execute | 17:22 |
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| otherwiseguy | marun: in this case it looks like it might be related to the ovs-vswitchd issue that amuller found. | 17:24 |
| otherwiseguy | Looks like ovs-vswitchd not responsive on my machine. | 17:24 |
| otherwiseguy | So nm. :) | 17:24 |
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| regXboi | hmm, it appears that the floatingips API changed in Juno (specifically, port_id is no longer required on POST) - can someone point me at the blueprint/specification that led to this change? | 17:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Enable coverage tests https://review.openstack.org/154205 | 17:46 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ping | 17:52 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: pong | 17:52 |
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| carl_baldwin | I saw you pushed another update. | 17:52 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Appears to still fail unit tests. | 17:52 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: mhhhh.... It was passing in my dev system last nigh all. I'll take a look | 17:53 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I think there is going to be conflict also with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142863/. More than this morning’s conflict. | 17:53 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I don’t think Jenkins is done with it. I just noticed it in zuul. | 17:53 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Do you want me to take a look at conflicts with my next patch? | 17:54 |
| carl_baldwin | We’ll need to work them out eventually. | 17:54 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: yeah, jenkins is not done yet. as soon as jenkins is done, i'll look at the unit tests | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Bak proposed openstack/neutron: Return from check_ports_exist_on_l3agent if no subnet found https://review.openstack.org/154289 | 17:54 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: and yes, please feel free to take a look at the conflicts at any time... I see this as cooperative work. In my case it is also a learning experience, that is why I want to fix as much as I can :-) | 17:57 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: breaking for lunch. I'll look at those unit tests when I come back | 18:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Erik Colnick proposed openstack/neutron: Fix for handling L3rpcCallback methods in rpc_worker processes https://review.openstack.org/154497 | 18:14 |
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| roaet | I know akihiro is the neutronclient master, but does anyone in here have mox or client experience that is willing to help me with the following problem I am having with my change: https://gist.github.com/roaet/e2543a927d9a6373e5c0 | 18:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I’ve got the unit test failures under control. They are easy. | 18:18 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: The rebase conflicts don’t look too bad either. | 18:19 |
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| sc68cal | baoli: has the Prefix delegation patch been posted to gerrit, even if it's WIP? | 18:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor management of namespaces in the L3 Agent https://review.openstack.org/147744 | 18:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Manish Godara proposed openstack/neutron: Add filter for provider network attributes in ML2 https://review.openstack.org/124917 | 18:35 |
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| baoli | sc68cal: not yet. | 18:40 |
| sc68cal | baoli: do you guys want to post what you have and mark it WIP so I could at least try and start reading it to prepare to review? | 18:42 |
| baoli | sc68cal, we'll do that once we achieve the end-to-end run, which is pretty close right now. | 18:43 |
| sc68cal | ok, I just don't want it to be a big code drop that we have to rush to review | 18:43 |
| sc68cal | but if i'm being nosy please feel free to tell me to buzz off :) | 18:44 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: how many unit tests were failing? | 18:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | Just 1 | 18:50 |
| carl_baldwin | er 2 | 18:50 |
| carl_baldwin | 2 tests in one file. | 18:50 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: was it test_l3_agent or some other file? | 18:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | test_dvr_router | 18:51 |
| carl_baldwin | You should be able to compare PS10 and 11 in gerrit to see what I changed. | 18:51 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: ahhh... that wasn't failing yesterday. I think it popped up with a merge bewenn yesterday and today | 18:52 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: is there anything I can help with? | 18:53 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I think it did. | 18:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Once tests are passing, do you think this patch is ready for review? | 18:53 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: yes | 18:53 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I think we’re good until we can get some feedback on the patch. I’ll review it more comprehensively today (hopefully, or tomorrow). | 18:54 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: ok, ping me if you need help. I'll be online until 5pm your time. Today I want to go to the gym.... I missed my swimming last night | 18:55 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Have a good swim. | 18:55 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I think I’ve got it rebased to my patch. I’ll post it. | 18:57 |
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| enikanorov__ | sc68cal: hey. no, feel free to reassign | 18:58 |
| carl_baldwin | All of the unit tests that conflicted pass now. I don’t have a setup to run functional tests here. I may have to cross my fingers on that one. | 18:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor management of namespaces in the L3 Agent https://review.openstack.org/147744 | 18:58 |
| sc68cal | enikanorov__: might have been someone else who asked you that | 18:59 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I can run the functional test... you mean the l3 agent functional test, right? | 18:59 |
| enikanorov__ | sc68cal: oh :) | 18:59 |
| enikanorov__ | sc68cal: sorry :) | 18:59 |
| banix | enikanorov: i asked about : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1373634 | 18:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1373634 in neutron "ML2 plugin bulk operations require multiple notifications being sent for sec group member updates" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Eugene Nikanorov (enikanorov) | 18:59 |
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| enikanorov__ | banix: yep :) | 18:59 |
| banix | enikanorov__: ok i will reassign to myself | 19:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Yes, that test. | 19:00 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: ok, I have a meeting now... but I'll report result around 1pm your time | 19:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks. Jenkins may be finished with it by then. | 19:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: The conflicts in that file were not difficult. I think there is high probability that I got it right. | 19:01 |
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| pc_m | marun: ping | 19:20 |
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| harmw | anyone using glustrfs in their deployment? | 19:24 |
| harmw | oh, crap, wrong channel | 19:24 |
| harmw | :) | 19:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Good riddance to L3RpcNotifierMixin https://review.openstack.org/154625 | 19:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining do_delete from unit tests https://review.openstack.org/154628 | 19:34 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: l3 agent functional test passed with latest patch set | 19:36 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Great. | 19:36 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: you nailed it :-) | 19:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Just building off of your work. | 19:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Manish Godara proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: ml2 async proof-of-concept https://review.openstack.org/154333 | 19:45 |
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| marun | pc_m: pong | 19:59 |
| pc_m | marun: Do you know how I can run coverage testing on modules in tests/functional (in the VPN repo)? | 19:59 |
| marun | pc_m: I'm afraid not. | 19:59 |
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| pc_m | marun: Any thoughts on anyone who may know? fungi thought QA IRC folks may know (I just don't know who they are, and the channel is/was quiet) | 20:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: DON'T MERGE Raise RuntimeError anytime asked to arping ipv6 https://review.openstack.org/154644 | 20:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed openstack/neutron: Remove use of keepalived 'vrrp_sync_group' as it is unused https://review.openstack.org/152861 | 20:03 |
| marun | pc_m: mtreinish might know | 20:03 |
| marun | carl_baldwin: feel free to approve, I just updated the commit message for him ^ | 20:04 |
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| mtreinish | pc_m: oh, sry I missed your comment in -qa before | 20:04 |
| mtreinish | pc_m: you should be able to, it depends on how things are setup on the functional test repos | 20:04 |
| mtreinish | and what you're looking to collect coverage on | 20:04 |
| mtreinish | (you probably can do it regardless of the answer, it's just how many hoops you have to jump through) | 20:05 |
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| pc_m | mtreinish: np. There is a commit that creates a device driver, which has a functional test to exercise | 20:06 |
| pc_m | mtreinish: Would like to run coverage using that functional test to see if the driver is exercised well. | 20:06 |
| mtreinish | pc_m: so you want coverage on the driver code from running the test? | 20:06 |
| mtreinish | ok do you have a link to the review? | 20:06 |
| pc_m | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144391/31 | 20:07 |
| mtreinish | pc_m: ok, my concern was that the tests were spawning additional processes which would make collecting coverage more difficult | 20:08 |
| mtreinish | it doesn't look like they are | 20:08 |
| mtreinish | so you should just be able to use the coverage flag built in to pbr test | 20:08 |
| mtreinish | so run when the functional tests call 'setup.py test' just add the coverage flag | 20:09 |
| mtreinish | which is '--coverage' iirc | 20:09 |
| pc_m | mtreinish: So I usually do 'tox -e dsvm-functional' to run the functional tests locally. | 20:10 |
| pc_m | mtreinish: Do I change the line in setup.py? | 20:10 |
| mtreinish | pc_m: ok so look in the tox.ini and see what the dsvm-functional job is doing | 20:10 |
| pc_m | in tox.ini | 20:10 |
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| pc_m | mtreinish: right. So I can add it there. | 20:11 |
| mtreinish | pc_m: you probably want to add a new job which is functional-coverage | 20:11 |
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| pc_m | mtreinish: makes sense. I'll give it a try. Thanks! | 20:11 |
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| mtreinish | pc_m: looking at the test code it didn't look like they required a running vpnaas why do they need devstack then? (I might have just misread the test code when I glanced at it) | 20:12 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, armax, salv-orlando, neutron monkey business triggered that one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154642/1/specs/eventlet-best-practices.rst | 20:14 |
| pc_m | mtreinish: Not too sure, I've just started to look at the test (and I don't have much experience with the functional testing). | 20:15 |
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| pc_m | mtreinish: The driver, when a VPN connection is created, will start up a process running StrongSwan. | 20:16 |
| mtreinish | pc_m: well give that a try anyway, but if it requires a running external process for the tests to work then the generated coverage report wont be too helpful | 20:16 |
| carl_baldwin | marun: looking… | 20:16 |
| pc_m | mtreinish: There are calls that will then check the status of the process, and the config files that were built for the process | 20:16 |
| mtreinish | because I don't think coverage will be running on the external proc | 20:16 |
| itzikb | Need some help with understanding why there is a requirement for l2pop when using DVR, anyone? | 20:17 |
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| pc_m | mtreinish: The process is a separate application (non-python) that does the VPN protocol - driven by config files. | 20:17 |
| pc_m | mtreinish: Do you think this could be tested via a unit test? | 20:18 |
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| mtreinish | pc_m: ok, then coverage should show just the python code executed then. Let's give just running it a try | 20:20 |
| mtreinish | and if there are issues we can go from there | 20:20 |
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| pc_m | mtreinish: ok. Will try in a bit. Thanks! | 20:21 |
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| aveiga | quick question: is it valid to assume that if "router:external" is True, then it's a provider network? Or is there a better value to check for? | 20:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Deleting HA router with attached port causes DB inconsistencies https://review.openstack.org/144260 | 20:27 |
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| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: i don't have no time for this monkey business | 20:28 |
| salv-orlando | ;) will look at that | 20:28 |
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| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando, those who don't have time for reading about monkey business are doomed to repeat it | 20:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/154179 | 20:32 |
| prometheanfire | I need to do anything special for this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154128/ | 20:33 |
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| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: I was simply quoting Freddie Mercury ;) | 20:38 |
| * ihrachyshka quoted George Santayana | 20:39 | |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Bak proposed openstack/neutron: Return from check_ports_exist_on_l3agent if no subnet found https://review.openstack.org/154289 | 20:39 |
| ihrachyshka | "quoted" | 20:39 |
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| salv-orlando | ihrachyshka: I think I gave a pretty decent show of my lsck of culture. | 20:55 |
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| ihrachyshka | salv-orlando, yeah, totally lol | 20:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Scope state reporting rpc api using a messaging namespace https://review.openstack.org/154670 | 21:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rajeev Grover proposed openstack/neutron: Prevent race conditions on DVR FIP resources https://review.openstack.org/153422 | 21:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Remove RPC dependency to create FIP agent gw port https://review.openstack.org/153729 | 21:59 |
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| sc68cal | aveiga: no, look for the provider attributes | 22:12 |
| sc68cal | like provider:segmentation_type | 22:12 |
| sc68cal | in the network object | 22:12 |
| aveiga | sc68cal: so just test that any exist at all? | 22:13 |
| sc68cal | I'm not 100% sure, you may need to check that they attribute exists and they're non-empty | 22:14 |
| sc68cal | just to be certain | 22:14 |
| * sc68cal checks devstack | 22:15 | |
| sc68cal | aveiga: actually you're right, just if the keys exist | 22:15 |
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| aveiga | thanks | 22:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ping | 22:16 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: pong | 22:17 |
| sc68cal | aveiga: now you're honor bound to get me my neutron configs off those dev boxes in the comcast tower | 22:17 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: The rebase introduced even more unit test failures. I think I got them all. | 22:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor management of namespaces in the L3 Agent https://review.openstack.org/147744 | 22:17 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ^ | 22:17 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: ahhhh... I was about to start fixing them. ok, great! | 22:17 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: good think you pinged me now. Literally I was opening my vim session | 22:18 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I’m glad I caught you then. I should’ve given you a heads up. It only took me about 10 minutes though. | 22:18 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 22:18 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I’ve also got work in progress to reconcile the two FipNamespace classes. | 22:18 |
| mlavalle | ok | 22:19 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: After that, I’ll do a comprehensive review of the code. | 22:19 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: thanks..... | 22:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Get rid of rpc to fetch fip agent port on agent. https://review.openstack.org/153735 | 22:24 |
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| anteaya | marun: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056515.html | 22:25 |
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| anteaya | though I am sure you picked up on this earlier in -infra, here is the reference | 22:25 |
| anteaya | dougwig: ^^ | 22:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/neutron: NEC: Merge NEC plugin models into single module https://review.openstack.org/154691 | 22:37 |
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| ihrachyshka | dougwig, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150653/ I think you may be interested in getting into discussion on co-gating in comments | 22:39 |
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| diegows | hi | 22:57 |
| diegows | I have a router without the address 169.254.169.254 and the metadata proxy isn't working | 22:57 |
| diegows | should I add this manually or scripted somewhere or should be added by the l3_agent or something else? | 22:58 |
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| haleyb | diegows: there should be an iptables rule in the router namespace redirecting that IP to the local metadata proxy process port | 23:04 |
| diegows | oh, ok... do it capture the packet before forwarding | 23:06 |
| diegows | good point ; | 23:06 |
| diegows | that address doesn't exists, good to know :) | 23:06 |
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| haleyb | it would exist in the dhcp namespace possibly, if you have an isolated network | 23:07 |
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| haleyb | diegows: the rule is in a PREROUTING chain for neutron, so hit before anything else happens | 23:08 |
| diegows | yes, I understand now... | 23:08 |
| diegows | so, for some reason my vms are not going to the default gw | 23:09 |
| diegows | :( | 23:09 |
| haleyb | that doesn't explain why metadata didn't work though | 23:09 |
| diegows | checking that now | 23:09 |
| diegows | it's not a metadata problem | 23:09 |
| diegows | I'll "curl" from the dhcp namespace just to confirm | 23:09 |
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| diegows | yes, metadata server works ok | 23:11 |
| diegows | hmm | 23:11 |
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| haleyb | VM console log have any clues? The next most common thing is a DHCP failure, which will also trigger a metadata failure since there's no IP to transmit | 23:13 |
| diegows | cloud init is showing ip address settings | 23:16 |
| diegows | and ping works | 23:16 |
| diegows | from dhcp or router ns | 23:16 |
| diegows | wait... works now... WTF | 23:16 |
| diegows | :( | 23:16 |
| diegows | hmm | 23:16 |
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| diegows | I have other people touching this, I don't trust on them | 23:17 |
| diegows | :P | 23:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor management of namespaces in the L3 Agent https://review.openstack.org/147744 | 23:29 |
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| dougwig | ihrachyshka: i think the one-way dependencies that jeblair is documenting would've worked for all but one of the painful 3-way dances that I've had to do (which were many.) | 23:29 |
| dougwig | but thanks, i will comment. | 23:29 |
| ihrachyshka | dougwig, thanks, that's what I wanted you to do since you know all the pain :) | 23:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angela Smith proposed openstack/neutron: Add ML2 VLAN mechanism driver for Brocade MLX and ICX switches. https://review.openstack.org/154709 | 23:41 |
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