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| RichardR2seley | I am experiencing a weird issue whereby when I create a new network and launch instances manually, those instances can communicate outbound (to the rest of my internal network and the world at large) without any issues (as is expected). When I do the same with Heat my instances cannot communicate outbound whatsoever unless they have a floating IP assigned to them. | 00:29 |
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| RichardR2seley | When I compare the properties of the routers, networks, subnets, etc. they look identical. Is there a specific parameter of a network which allows this kind of NATing by default? | 00:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from external_process https://review.openstack.org/154959 | 00:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from AsyncProcess https://review.openstack.org/155101 | 00:35 |
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| armax | otherwiseguy: ping | 01:24 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: pong | 01:24 |
| armax | I think we need to back out your change | 01:25 |
| armax | as it breaks the world :) | 01:25 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: which change? | 01:25 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153699/ | 01:25 |
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| otherwiseguy | uh oh. :) what part of the world did it break? | 01:26 |
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| armax | all the projects that use neutron as dependency | 01:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "monkey patch stdlib before importing other modules" https://review.openstack.org/155152 | 01:26 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: ^^^ | 01:26 |
| otherwiseguy | So things like the *aaS? | 01:27 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: I think we need to work out a change that flags NO_EVENTLET the other way | 01:27 |
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| armax | yes | 01:27 |
| armax | HenryG: ^^^ | 01:27 |
| armax | dougwig: ^^^ | 01:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Move NCS mech driver to its new home https://review.openstack.org/151893 | 01:27 |
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| otherwiseguy | armax: how is it breaking them? just their pep8 tests? | 01:28 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: as well as UT's | 01:28 |
| armax | have a look at http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 01:29 |
| armax | and search 152093,11 for instance | 01:29 |
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| armax | otherwiseguy: if we added setenv = NO_EVENTLET=1 to the affected tests it would do the trick | 01:30 |
| armax | but that’s too much of a change, I guess | 01:30 |
| armax | is there any chance we can flip the logic? | 01:30 |
| HenryG | I'm here | 01:30 |
| HenryG | back it out or fix the breakages? | 01:30 |
| armax | HenryG: back up until min 25 | 01:30 |
| dougwig | shouldn't that fix have gone into main for the server binaries? | 01:31 |
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| otherwiseguy | armax: If we plan on removing all of the individual monkey_patches like Ihar's patch, it seems like inverting the logic would be even more problematic. | 01:31 |
| otherwiseguy | Seems like it should be possible to fix the external things. Trying to find log file that makes sense to me. | 01:32 |
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| armax | otherwiseguy: I’d rather not sprinkle change everywhere if possible | 01:33 |
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| otherwiseguy | armax: is this representative of the errors? https://jenkins06.openstack.org/job/gate-neutron-fwaas-pep8/41/console | 01:33 |
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| armax | what about introducing your change so that we set setenv = EVENTLET the oppositve way? | 01:34 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: yes | 01:34 |
| armax | that’s an example | 01:34 |
| armax | like we do: | 01:34 |
| armax | if os.environ.get(‘EVENTLET’) and apply on the tests? | 01:35 |
| armax | on testenv | 01:35 |
| dougwig | it seems like we do more with neutron *without* eventlet than with, so that does seem backwards. double-pain because it's in __init__ and happens as magic. | 01:35 |
| dougwig | not you armax, the merged change. | 01:36 |
| armax | this way the change fix your issue, but preserve sanity to the other projects... | 01:36 |
| armax | and we can slowly phase in the flag to other projects in due course | 01:36 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: I don't understand how flipping the logic would work. All agents, etc. would need EVENTLET environment variable set. | 01:36 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: now you do: | 01:37 |
| armax | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/tox.ini#L52 | 01:37 |
| armax | what I am saying is do ‘positive logic' | 01:37 |
| armax | and add EVENTLET=1 to testenv | 01:38 |
| armax | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/tox.ini#L6 | 01:38 |
| armax | here https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/__init__.py#L19 | 01:38 |
| armax | you’d do: | 01:38 |
| armax | if os.environ.get(‘EVENTLET’): | 01:38 |
| armax | the effect would be the same, would it? | 01:38 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: right, but __init__.py checks for the variable before doing the monkey_patch, and the plan was to remove all of the monkey_patch() calls from the rest of the tree. Can't do that with positive logic or it would break absolutely everything. | 01:39 |
| otherwiseguy | Unless I'm missing something. | 01:39 |
| dougwig | why is that the plan? doesn't that mean that everything using neutron as a lib is doing more than it should? and we do use neutron as a lib without eventlet a lot. | 01:39 |
| armax | well, the binaries would need to flip the switch too | 01:39 |
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| armax | right, dougwig’s point is the crux of the matter, to some extent | 01:40 |
| otherwiseguy | The "real fix" is to move all binary mains() to run from the same place, like cmd/ and do cmd/__init__.py monkey patching like in Nova. | 01:40 |
| dougwig | that seems reasonable, but this stopgap does not. :) | 01:40 |
| armax | dougwig: which stopgap? | 01:41 |
| otherwiseguy | My code that relies on that change hasn't been pushed, so just revert. | 01:41 |
| dougwig | armax: of putting any of this into neutron/__init__.py | 01:41 |
| armax | dougwig: agreed | 01:42 |
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| otherwiseguy | This whole using processutils thing is really more trouble than it is worth. | 01:42 |
| armax | so, otherwiseguy: you think it’s sensible to revert now, and wait for the other fix you’re proposing? | 01:42 |
| dougwig | might get close in the short-term by putting it in init for agent/ and server/, though. | 01:42 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: yeah, that's fine. The processutils patch is the only thing that really exposes the issue this tries to fix, and I can probably rework things to not even use processutils. | 01:43 |
| armax | would that address your concern for the tests? | 01:43 |
| armax | I mean, I want revert so that we don’t cause grief to other projects | 01:43 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: that works fine for me. | 01:43 |
| armax | but at the same time I want to apply the fix that nails the issue you’re experiencing | 01:44 |
| otherwiseguy | Sorry to break the world. :) | 01:44 |
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| dougwig | otherwiseguy: it's a big club. :) | 01:44 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: I knew when I +2 the change something was going to come up | 01:44 |
| armax | :) | 01:44 |
| dougwig | otherwiseguy: i think i have a permanent cot there, some days. | 01:44 |
| otherwiseguy | I've got about 10+ patches removing the root_helper arg from everywhere that I'm sure will break things as well. | 01:44 |
| otherwiseguy | I've been trying hard to avoid it, with the ip_lib change, etc. | 01:45 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: that’s fine, the sooner you file them the sooner we fix breakages | 01:45 |
| otherwiseguy | But it touches *so much code* I would be surprised if something doesn't break. | 01:45 |
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| * HenryG is running out of popcorn | 01:45 | |
| armax | so if we’re okay on the action plan, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155152/ can be approved? | 01:45 |
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| otherwiseguy | works for me. | 01:45 |
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| armax | ok, as for your fix | 01:46 |
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| armax | otherwiseguy: are you going to take care of it, or shall someone else do? | 01:46 |
| HenryG | otherwiseguy: I think the root_helper fixes are very low risk | 01:46 |
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| HenryG | armax: revert review imminent? | 01:48 |
| dougwig | it's linked about 8 lines up | 01:48 |
| otherwiseguy | $ git grep "\(self.root_helper\|root_helper=\)"|wc -l | 01:48 |
| otherwiseguy | 467 | 01:48 |
| armax | HenryG: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155152/ | 01:48 |
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| armax | dougwig rage-merged it | 01:48 |
| armax | :) | 01:48 |
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| otherwiseguy | So far, I have that root_helper count down to 184. | 01:50 |
| otherwiseguy | And it is making me sleepy. | 01:50 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: oh my | 01:50 |
| dougwig | wow. | 01:50 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: so as for the monkey patching | 01:50 |
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| otherwiseguy | armax: I can probably work something up tomorrow to try. | 01:50 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: ok, so the approach would be two-fold, just so that I got it straight,... | 01:51 |
| HenryG | otherwiseguy: If you want I can try to finish up the remaining 184 | 01:51 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: Either that or scuttle the processutils.execute conversion, and just add a run_as_root option to our existing utils.execute. | 01:51 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: a) move the mains in one place and do the monkeypatching early | 01:51 |
| armax | and b) rework your processutils patch to work around the problem? | 01:52 |
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| otherwiseguy | HenryG: I don't mind finishing it up. Getting pretty close. unit tests are the biggest pain. | 01:52 |
| armax | otherwiseguy having said that your change did address some log traces observed in l3 agent | 01:52 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: s/and/or/ | 01:52 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: that’s why I said ‘and' | 01:53 |
| otherwiseguy | If I do a), there won't need to be a b). | 01:54 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: ic | 01:54 |
| armax | your change did fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1417386 | 01:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1417386 in neutron "AttributeError: _oslo_messaging_localcontext errors found in neutron l3-agent logs" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to venkata anil (anil-venkata) | 01:55 |
| armax | so I’d be definitely eager to see something else up | 01:55 |
| otherwiseguy | So we should re-fix it soon, then, I guess. I wouldn't be broken-hearted if someone else figured out the move-everything-to-cmd thing while I was asleep... :) | 01:56 |
| otherwiseguy | I could probably send an email to Ihar, he wakes up 8 hours before me. | 01:56 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: but how would that fix the issue during test execution? | 01:56 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: We'd also do tests/__init__.py | 01:57 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: gotcha | 01:57 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: I’ll post something on his review | 01:57 |
| armax | and link this conversation | 01:57 |
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| otherwiseguy | He's the one that started this monkey_patching fixing business anyway. :) | 01:57 |
| otherwiseguy | And his patch wouldn't have broken the world (it was originally just tests/__init__.py, but I was also getting some tempest failures with processutils.execute without other early monkey_patching) | 01:58 |
| dougwig | whoever came up with monkey patch as a term deserves a medal. | 01:59 |
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| otherwiseguy | dougwig: whoever came up with it as a concept deserves a swift kick in the pants. | 01:59 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: understood, I posted a bunch of comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153779/ | 01:59 |
| dougwig | otherwiseguy: lol. | 02:00 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: thanks. | 02:00 |
| armax | otherwiseguy, dougwig: I honestly believe that this eventlet monkey business is more trouble than it’s worth | 02:00 |
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| dougwig | i was talking about how cool the term 'monkey patch' sounds. it does lead to too much magic and side effects, in practice. | 02:01 |
| otherwiseguy | dougwig: I say that, but my native OVSDB patch pretty much monkey_patches the OVS python library for what seems like a good reason... | 02:01 |
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| dougwig | i monkey patch the crappy ssl lib all the time. and ruby makes good use of it for meta-programming a lot. | 02:01 |
| armax | maybe it’s just me then | 02:02 |
| otherwiseguy | dougwig: Here is the evil: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152761/6/neutron/agent/ovsdb/native/patch_idl.py | 02:02 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: I would be very happy to use a much more explicit concurrency solution. | 02:02 |
| HenryG | mock is monkey patching on steroids. It has its uses. | 02:02 |
| armax | otherwiseguy: you just made my day | 02:03 |
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| aleksandr_null | Hi guys =) | 02:03 |
| dougwig | otherwiseguy: i think i need a cigarette after reading that comment. | 02:03 |
| otherwiseguy | I'd even rather use threads natively. | 02:03 |
| otherwiseguy | dougwig. :) | 02:03 |
| dougwig | and i don't smoke. | 02:03 |
| dougwig | :) | 02:03 |
| otherwiseguy | It is...not really a nice thing to do. And it is confusing as hell. | 02:04 |
| otherwiseguy | But turning O(n) into O(1) is worth a little evil. | 02:04 |
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| otherwiseguy | imho | 02:04 |
| dougwig | depends on where that loop is, but sometimes yes. | 02:04 |
| armax | dougwig: I can see both sides of the argument | 02:05 |
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| flwang1 | xuhanp: ping | 02:06 |
| otherwiseguy | dougwig: true. and with this it's useful on really heavily loaded systems with many, many ports, etc. But yeah. I plan on actually proposing changes to the OVS library itself at some point when I can find the time. (along with getting the library put in PyPI). | 02:06 |
| xuhanp | flwang1, pong | 02:06 |
| armax | ok folks, I’ll back later, thanks a lot | 02:07 |
| flwang1 | xuhanp: did you ever try route move? from one controller to another? | 02:07 |
| flwang1 | i mean from on l3 agent to another | 02:07 |
| otherwiseguy | armax: thanks for cleaning up my mess. ;) | 02:07 |
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| armax | otherwiseguy: our mess | 02:07 |
| xuhanp | flwang1, by which command or API? | 02:07 |
| dougwig | armax: +1 | 02:07 |
| otherwiseguy | It was always kind of a cross-your-fingers kind of change. | 02:08 |
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| flwang1 | l3-agent-router-remove l3-agent-router-add | 02:08 |
| xuhanp | oh. router move, not route move | 02:08 |
| xuhanp | yes, but a while ago | 02:08 |
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| crc32 | http://pastebin.com/cSKFNLvC | 06:26 |
| crc32 | maby I'm late but is neutron off master broken? I can't install on a freshly built machine. | 06:26 |
| irenab | trinaths: hi | 06:28 |
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| crc32 | ImportError: neutron.hooks.setup_hook <-- is no one else getting this when trying to "python setup.py install" off neutron master? | 06:34 |
| crc32 | I'm new to the whole pbr bork fix bork thing. Any one have any ideas how to move past this? | 06:35 |
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| blogan | crc32: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155152/ | 06:37 |
| blogan | crc32: that fixes it, its still in check and needs to go through the gate | 06:37 |
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| crc32 | I don't think its just other projects that don't play nicely. neutron flat out won't install period. | 06:39 |
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| crc32 | ok blogan that did it.. neutron installs now. | 06:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from SecurityGroupAgentRpc https://review.openstack.org/155013 | 07:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from linuxbridge https://review.openstack.org/155014 | 07:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from external_process https://review.openstack.org/154959 | 07:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove deprecated DEFAULT.root_helper https://review.openstack.org/153066 | 07:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Stop using passed root_helper in ip_lib https://review.openstack.org/145829 | 07:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from IpsetManager https://review.openstack.org/154980 | 07:31 |
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| hjensas | I am not being successful finding good docs for VPNaaS. I am looking for details regarding how it is scheduled. Can it be deployed in a resilient way? | 09:05 |
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| hjensas | ^^ bacround is research for bussiness usecase. | 09:06 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, hey. about to send a bunch of 'move main to neutron.cmd' patches | 14:28 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: That makes you my Today's Favorite Person. :) | 14:34 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, half an hour or so, I need to kill some tests before sending it to hell | 14:35 |
| ihrachyshka | sorry, gate | 14:35 |
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| otherwiseguy | The gatekeeper did seem to be kind of demon-ish. | 14:35 |
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| ajo | otherwiseguy ^ ihrachyshka , if you can ;) | 14:41 |
| ajo | otherwiseguy, btw, excellent work on abstracting the ovsdb calls :D | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | venkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: Check for valid local_ip for OVS tunnel https://review.openstack.org/154043 | 14:42 |
| otherwiseguy | ajo: looking at it. | 14:48 |
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| otherwiseguy | ajo: so far, the only thing I wonder about is having an option for reset_bridge() that add_bridge() doesn't have. | 14:49 |
| ajo | otherwiseguy, yes.. we could add it to add_bridge, but I Wonder if it was a YAGNI :) | 14:49 |
| otherwiseguy | Yeah. It's a tradeoff. | 14:49 |
| otherwiseguy | On libraries I tend lean more towards consistency. | 14:51 |
| ajo | we have other stuff we don't use I think, like set_controller, at least the default ovs plugin | 14:51 |
| ajo | otherwiseguy ^ | 14:51 |
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| ajo | but as you say, it's a library for everybody, consistency is a good point | 14:51 |
| otherwiseguy | ajo: I seem to remember some of the other plugins using it. | 14:51 |
| ajo | I'm ok with adding it | 14:51 |
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| ajo | point it out on the review and -1 :) so there's a record :D | 14:52 |
| otherwiseguy | The ibm and ofa use it. | 14:52 |
| ajo | ahh | 14:52 |
| ajo | good people | 14:52 |
| ajo | what's OFA? | 14:52 |
| otherwiseguy | open flow agent | 14:52 |
| ajo | hmmm | 14:52 |
| ajo | like OVS but as an openflow controller? | 14:52 |
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| otherwiseguy | I think so, haven't really looked at it much. | 14:52 |
| ajo | otherwiseguy, cool, is a ryu OF agent | 14:53 |
| ajo | ryu is cool ;) | 14:53 |
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| ajo | my opinion is that we may eventually look on it :) | 14:54 |
| otherwiseguy | ajo: do you have any idea what those test_ovs_lib unit tests are actually testing by just calling the functions? | 14:54 |
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| ajo | otherwiseguy, I found them a bit weak, but... what could they do? | 14:54 |
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| ajo | capture the calls on the other end, and just that? | 14:54 |
| ajo | that sounds like an antipattern | 14:55 |
| otherwiseguy | There's no verification going on other than I guess they don't throw an exception before getting to execute()... | 14:55 |
| ajo | probably marun shared already with you: http://googletesting.blogspot.fr/2015/01/testing-on-toilet-change-detector-tests.html | 14:55 |
| ajo | yeah | 14:55 |
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| ajo | I would have freaked out before reading that article | 14:55 |
| ajo | but.. | 14:56 |
| ajo | I couldn't find more to do than ... checking the calls are being done | 14:56 |
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| ajo | may be with secure mode I Can mock the secure mode ovsdb call, and make sure it's done | 14:56 |
| otherwiseguy | Yeah, they're the kind of tests I wouldn't even have. They're mostly duplicated by functional tests. | 14:56 |
| otherwiseguy | Not sure if I have a reset_bridge functional test. | 14:57 |
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| ajo | otherwiseguy, aha, may be a functional tests is good | 14:57 |
| ajo | good point | 14:57 |
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| ajo | we could create bridge in standard mode -> check it has the "NORMAL" rule, | 14:58 |
| ajo | create in secure mode -> no rule should be | 14:58 |
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| amuller | but then you're testing OVS and not Neutron | 14:58 |
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| ajo | amuller, I'm testing that my neutron interface is doing what I want to OVS | 15:00 |
| ajo | amuller, or may be I can check the ovs-vsctl output, and check that the specific bridge was set as secure | 15:00 |
| ajo | (openflow rules appart) | 15:00 |
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| amuller | meh, I don't have a strong opinion here other then that you're testing the addition of an argument so that the test should be simple and cheap | 15:01 |
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| ajo | amuller, and what if I added the argument, but the result is not getting the bridge in secure mode? | 15:07 |
| ajo | and we believe it actually is | 15:07 |
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| ajo | I have a patch for juno, that works... and I manually tested there, but... I must admit I didn't do with transactions and the ovsdb abstraction | 15:08 |
| ajo | otherwiseguy ^ | 15:08 |
| ajo | so... we either add a functional test, or ... I test it manually | 15:08 |
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| otherwiseguy | ajo: If it was a unit test, it would probably need to mock/verify at the ovsdb api level, as doing any execute mocking wouldn't work for both backends. This also means that the whole test_ovs_lib unit test will only be "useful" for the vsctl backend, and even then only as long as it is the default. Otherwise, the test breaks. | 15:14 |
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| otherwiseguy | Functional test is a little bit heavy, and there are functional tests that at least show that doing a multi-op transaction works already. | 15:14 |
| otherwiseguy | I could go either way. Any OVS functional test is really going to be two, one for each backend. | 15:15 |
| ajo | otherwiseguy, functional seems like a very good way to do it, | 15:16 |
| ajo | it saves me the manual.verification | 15:16 |
| ajo | and, needing manual verification is always bad | 15:16 |
| ajo | otherwiseguy, do we have the native ovsdb backend already in tree? | 15:16 |
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| otherwiseguy | Do the other callers of reset_bridge() also need to be u pdated to pass secure mode? | 15:17 |
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| ajo | otherwiseguy, br-int calls on set-secure | 15:17 |
| otherwiseguy | ajo: not quite, it's up for review and we're working out some dep issues. | 15:17 |
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| ajo | but may be it could benefit from re-creating directly into secure | 15:17 |
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| ajo | instead of doing it on different steps (avoiding race conditions) | 15:17 |
| ajo | otherwiseguy ahh.. looking forward to see it roll :D | 15:18 |
| otherwiseguy | Maru has a test patch I need to depend on that does the python-openvswitch installation for the gate. | 15:18 |
| ajo | otherwiseguy | 15:18 |
| ajo | look at line 725 here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155328/1/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/agent/ovs_neutron_agent.py | 15:18 |
| ajo | a very good reason to add secure_mode param to create / add bridge ... | 15:19 |
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| otherwiseguy | ajo: makes sense. The API writer in me immediately jumps to thinking, "what if we need to create bridges with more options set, like we do with add_port" :p | 15:22 |
| otherwiseguy | This is why it takes me forever to get anything done. :p | 15:22 |
| otherwiseguy | I seem to try to solve problems depth-first. | 15:23 |
| ajo | otherwiseguy, but this is why you get something much better in the end :D | 15:23 |
| ajo | I was more used on solving all I could by myself when I was on a tiny company, so, I tend to limit depth to keep running. | 15:23 |
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| otherwiseguy | ajo: "I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise the make as they go by." | 15:24 |
| otherwiseguy | -- Douglas Adams | 15:24 |
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| ajo | otherwiseguy, that's reality.. :) | 15:27 |
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| ajo | deadlines go away, and we forget of the long term ;) | 15:27 |
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| otherwiseguy | and glares a little | 15:41 |
| otherwiseguy | :) | 15:41 |
| russellb | umadbro? | 15:41 |
| amuller | lol | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor db_base_plugin_v2.py to use new IPAM https://review.openstack.org/153236 | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: wip ipam reference driver https://review.openstack.org/150485 | 15:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | LiFengkai proposed openstack/neutron-specs: implements: blueprint open-wan-as-a-service https://review.openstack.org/155364 | 15:43 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, re version checks. so it's all about balance between ease of the check and 'pureness' of the check. | 15:44 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: there is no balance. checking the version number will almost always eventually bite you. I wrote sanity checks specifically because version checks in the code were breaking RH stuff due to backported features. | 15:45 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, f.e. being able to check that dnsmasq supports hwaddr matching for ipv6 would mean starting dnsmasq AND dhcpv6 client, and diagnosing whether client get the address (sets it on iface etc.) | 15:45 |
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| amuller | ihrachyshka: otherwiseguy: thinking about it it's actually not difficult adding the necessary keepalived ipv6 default gateway sanity check | 15:45 |
| amuller | dunno about the dnsmasq one | 15:45 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: That sounds like exactly the kind of feature one would backport to an older version that was in long term support. :p | 15:47 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, redhat was broken because version checks were in runtime | 15:47 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, so rebase could break | 15:48 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: and breaking the sanity check system so that it can't be used does not fix that problem. | 15:48 |
| ihrachyshka | 'can't be used' wat | 15:48 |
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| otherwiseguy | The sanity check failing, when a distro would actually work breaks sanity checking. | 15:49 |
| ihrachyshka | there are arguments to disable specific checks if downstream assumes it's handled | 15:49 |
| otherwiseguy | It makes it completely unusable. | 15:49 |
| otherwiseguy | The whole point is to be able to avoid having to make downstream changes. | 15:49 |
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| otherwiseguy | It's as bad as web pages specifically checking browser versions for features. It is just a very bad way to test for features. | 15:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Scope state reporting rpc api using a messaging namespace https://review.openstack.org/154670 | 15:53 |
| amuller | russellb: I'm getting back to this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125339/9 | 15:53 |
| amuller | russellb: so I'm going to first push a patch that removes the unused RPC handler | 15:53 |
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| amuller | russellb: I think it's correct to actually reduce the minor version of the server-side RPC, in this case? From 1.4 to 1.3? The L3 agent RPC client doesn't, won't, have any methods that use 1.4 | 15:54 |
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| amuller | russellb: but juno neutron server uses 1.4, what would happen if this patch was merged but the follow up to re-add the function won't? During an upgrade a Juno server will restart, reducing its RPC server version from 1.4 to 1.3 | 15:55 |
| amuller | would clients connected be affected, even though they don't have any 1.4 methods? | 15:55 |
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| amuller | maybe I should just leave the version as 1.4 | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Move Floating IP processing to Router classes https://review.openstack.org/142863 | 15:56 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, ok, thanks for feedback, I will digest it later. I'll think how we can handle dnsmasq case easily | 15:58 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: ping | 15:59 |
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| carl_baldwin | pc_m: pong | 16:01 |
| pc_m | Can you do a follow-up review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145005? I was wondering if an exception should be defined for the lookup failure. Thoughts? | 16:01 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, on irrelevant note - those patches moving main()s, I have plenty of them (16), one per service. do you think I can send them like that? I'm afraid if I squash those, review will become mess | 16:02 |
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| russellb | amuller: i wouldn't reduce the version. if the method was never used, i don't think it's important to mess with the version at all | 16:03 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: oh my. Lots of patches. | 16:03 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: maybe we could talk to dougwig/armax and see what they'd prefer? | 16:03 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, I'm not sure those are all, I see some agents in the tree that are not patched at all (I need to investigate why) | 16:03 |
| otherwiseguy | Since they will probably be interested in reviewing. | 16:03 |
| amuller | russellb: ack | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Replace keepalived notifier bash script with Python ip monitor https://review.openstack.org/125384 | 16:04 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, 'interesting' | 16:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Remove unused L3 HA RPC method https://review.openstack.org/155370 | 16:04 |
| russellb | amuller: feel free to ping me once you post so i can review | 16:04 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, sorry, I mean 'interested' | 16:04 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: :) | 16:04 |
| russellb | or you can post right now :) | 16:04 |
| amuller | hehe | 16:04 |
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| ihrachyshka | as in 'gosh, is it diletant party?' | 16:04 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: I will look. | 16:04 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Thanks. Would like to help the submitter move that commit forward. | 16:04 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: I'll review them whenever you post them (in fact, checking reviews where you were the owner led me to see the version checking stuff). | 16:05 |
| otherwiseguy | :p | 16:05 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, that's good, I appreciate the feedback | 16:05 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, when I moved runtime check there, I solved immediate problem (moving problem from agent), but maybe I should go further and actually fix the thing. | 16:05 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, for version checks, it was solving complexity for Sridhar's patch, but maybe it's also wrong way to go, so. I'll look into it, believe me. | 16:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Reuse nova batch notifier https://review.openstack.org/128013 | 16:06 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: I appreciate it. | 16:07 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: And I also appreciate you fixing the monkey_patching stuff, since, you know, my try at it broke the world. ;) | 16:08 |
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| ihrachyshka | armax seems to be off | 16:08 |
| ihrachyshka | dougwig, around? | 16:08 |
| * ihrachyshka now feels compassion to russellb who sent tens of 'change rpc mixin' patches and was blamed for it | 16:09 | |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: Also, I need to base my patches off yours, and I'm already around 12 deep. :) | 16:09 |
| ihrachyshka | 16 patches... ick | 16:09 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, gosh | 16:09 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, don't do it before gate passes and we start getting +2's... | 16:10 |
| ihrachyshka | I feel we'll have some rebases due to cool nits or whatever | 16:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove deprecated DEFAULT.root_helper https://review.openstack.org/153066 | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Fix ml2 plugin create_port for notify l3 agent https://review.openstack.org/155317 | 16:10 |
| russellb | ihrachyshka: heh yeah i got slapped | 16:11 |
| ihrachyshka | ok, no one interested around, so I'm just going to bomb gate as a strawman and we'll see what people have to say | 16:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Monkey patch all the code inside neutron/cmd/... https://review.openstack.org/155373 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved neutron.server.main into neutron.cmd.server https://review.openstack.org/155374 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved neutron.agent.l3_agent into neutron.cmd.agents.l3_agent https://review.openstack.org/155375 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved neutron.agent.metadata_agent into neutron.cmd.agents.metadata_agent https://review.openstack.org/155376 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for NEC agent into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155377 | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for Bigswitch RESTPROXY agent into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155378 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for IBM SDNVE agent into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155379 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for HyperV agent into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155380 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for oneconvergence agent into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155381 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for OVS agent into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155382 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for SR-IOV agent into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155383 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for LB agent into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155384 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for Cisco configuration agent into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155385 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for metering agent into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155386 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved neutron.agent.dhcp_agent to neutron.cmd.agents.dhcp_agent https://review.openstack.org/155387 | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for metadata_proxy into neutron/cmd/... https://review.openstack.org/155388 | 16:12 |
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| * otherwiseguy didn't have time to make the popcorn | 16:12 | |
| ihrachyshka | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:i_like_to_move_it,n,z | 16:12 |
| ihrachyshka | starting from https://review.openstack.org/155373 | 16:13 |
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| amuller | I guess I'll move my new executable into cmd as well :) | 16:14 |
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| otherwiseguy | amuller: doooo it | 16:14 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: I could have also just not moved to processutils.execute() :p | 16:15 |
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| ihrachyshka | amuller, yeah, that's how we want to end | 16:15 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, it's nova way (c) | 16:15 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, hm, just checkout the last one | 16:16 |
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| otherwiseguy | Neutron goes Nova. :) | 16:16 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: well sure, if you want to be smart. | 16:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: Add state_or_sec_group_updated flag in port_update https://review.openstack.org/155223 | 16:16 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, that move to processutils.execute() was in my todo, so we would hit it sooner or later | 16:16 |
| otherwiseguy | :) | 16:16 |
| russellb | yeah i usually just check out the last one | 16:17 |
| russellb | git review -d <last#> | 16:17 |
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| ihrachyshka | ok, last one is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155388/ | 16:17 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: Is your patch to do tests/__init__.py still up? | 16:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lionel Zerbib proposed openstack/neutron: Add rate limiting security groups rules. https://review.openstack.org/154535 | 16:47 |
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| ihrachyshka | marun, https://review.openstack.org/133934 | 16:53 |
| dougwig | ihrachyshka: lol, good show | 16:53 |
| ihrachyshka | dougwig, ... :) | 16:54 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, the very first patch in the series does it | 16:55 |
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| ihrachyshka | dougwig, I can try to reduce the number of patches by squashing them (squashing four of those will be straightforward for reviewers I guess, other - not sure) | 16:55 |
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| dougwig | it doesn't bother me. nor do long ones for things that are straightforward. | 16:56 |
| ihrachyshka | ok, I'll leave those as-is unless someone complains | 16:56 |
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| ihrachyshka | dougwig, ok, so I need to respin anyway, so I'll squash some of those | 17:03 |
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| ZZelle | ihrachyshka, hi | 17:04 |
| ihrachyshka | ZZelle, hi | 17:04 |
| ZZelle | ihrachyshka, you should also associate these changes with a bug | 17:05 |
| ihrachyshka | ZZelle, do you have number in mind? | 17:05 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, ^^ ? | 17:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/neutron: Hyper-V Agent decomposition https://review.openstack.org/153259 | 17:06 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: I think I added a neutron impact to the one you opened for oslo. | 17:08 |
| ZZelle | ihrachyshka, => https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.concurrency/+bug/1418541 | 17:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1418541 in neutron "processutils checks whether stdlib is monkey patched during import" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Terry Wilson (otherwiseguy) | 17:08 |
| ZZelle | but it does not really feet | 17:09 |
| ihrachyshka | ZZelle, right. ok, let's track it there | 17:09 |
| dougwig | ihrachyshka: if you have time, can you put your desired method of handling oslo with neutron-lib into that review, and then i'll respin the doc and post to the ML. | 17:09 |
| dougwig | ? | 17:09 |
| otherwiseguy | ZZelle: ihrachyshka : yep, that's the one. It didn't fit exactly, but it was close enough. :) | 17:09 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, good for Related- | 17:09 |
| ihrachyshka | dougwig, ack, will do in 1-2 hours | 17:10 |
| dougwig | ihrachyshka: ty | 17:10 |
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| ihrachyshka | markmcclain, thanks for the comment on monkey patch series. I wonder whether it's misplaced (it refers to options moved while this particular patch does not move anything). Or do you refer to other patches? would it be better to move the whole files instead of just main()s for all of them? I also agree it needs discussion, I'll write an email. | 17:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for metadata_proxy into neutron/cmd/... https://review.openstack.org/155388 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Monkey patch all the code inside neutron/cmd/... https://review.openstack.org/155373 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved several services into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155374 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for metering agent into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155386 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for 3party plugins into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155412 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Moved main() for open plugins into neutron.cmd https://review.openstack.org/155413 | 17:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Manish Godara proposed openstack/neutron: Add filter for provider network attributes in ML2 https://review.openstack.org/124917 | 17:21 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, if you have a moment to take a look: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155328/ broadcast storm fun on br-tun | 17:22 |
| ajo | obondarev_ ^ | 17:22 |
| salv-orlando | k | 17:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Revert "monkey patch stdlib before importing other modules" https://review.openstack.org/155152 | 17:30 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando, thanks I thought it's a bit critical, because we got to kill a lab several times because of the bug ':) | 17:39 |
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| salv-orlando | ajo: yeah I just do not remember very well the behaviour of secure mode and I'm doing some tests now | 17:41 |
| salv-orlando | but if you can help me | 17:41 |
| ajo | salv-orlando, sure, let me look for the reference | 17:41 |
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| salv-orlando | I think with secure mode br-tun never sets up flows unless you i)have a connected controller or ii) do it explictly | 17:42 |
| ajo | http://openvswitch.org/support/dist-docs/tutorial/Tutorial.md.txt | 17:42 |
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| ajo | look for secure | 17:42 |
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| ajo | "For our purpose, this just means that the OpenFlow flow table starts out empty." | 17:42 |
| salv-orlando | ajo: what are you quoting? | 17:43 |
| ajo | the problem with non-secure is that it starts with a NORMAL rule, which forward to the relevant ports (or ALL but "in" in case of broadcast/multicast) | 17:43 |
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| ajo | ahh | 17:43 |
| ajo | correct, | 17:43 |
| ajo | what you said is correct | 17:43 |
| ajo | no rules unless controller conected or explicitly set | 17:43 |
| salv-orlando | ajo: that's fine I got the normal problem. I just want to make sure that we then don't wedge br-tun | 17:43 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando, sure, | 17:43 |
| ajo | i tested at least for vxlan, not gre | 17:43 |
| ajo | but it looks like it works, actually, we delete all the rules after reseting the bridge | 17:44 |
| ajo | which is useless now, let me look for the line where we do that.. | 17:44 |
| ajo | but | 17:44 |
| ajo | yes, let's make sure there are no more implications | 17:44 |
| ajo | the rule stuff is clear | 17:44 |
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| ajo | salv-orlando: man 5 ovs-vswitchd.conf.db | 17:46 |
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| ajo | http://www.fpaste.org/184823/42376320/ | 17:46 |
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| ajo | ok, it seems that we just prevent the normal rule (switch acting as a normal MAC-learning switch) | 17:47 |
| salv-orlando | ajo: yes it sounds like this | 17:48 |
| ajo | ah, nice it seems like I didn't run relevant tests locally... | 17:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Move Floating IP processing to Router classes https://review.openstack.org/142863 | 17:49 |
| ajo | neutron.tests.unit.openvswitch.test_ovs_tunnel failing because of not expecting the new parameter set | 17:49 |
| salv-orlando | probably just misleading docs.. if you read man ovs-vsctl, line 341 it makes it sound like in secure mode the switch does not set up any flow in secure mode unless connected | 17:49 |
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| ajo | missleading, yes | 17:51 |
| ajo | the actual behavior is that we can really add them via ovs-ofctl | 17:51 |
| ajo | manually tested.. | 17:51 |
| ajo | but I guess we don't need to do tests to test ovs... yet I want to add a functional one to make sure we set the bridge to secure correctly | 17:52 |
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| ajo | btw, I guess that works, since we're using it for br-int | 17:53 |
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| salv-orlando | ajo: yup. If we can be sure that it won't block the flows which are normally automatically set up at the data path level that's ok | 17:54 |
| ajo | that's checked :) | 17:54 |
| salv-orlando | I want to be careful because that's one of those things we do not test in the gate ;) | 17:54 |
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| ajo | I checked it to make sure the problem didn't reproduce | 17:55 |
| ajo | with cross-node communication | 17:55 |
| ajo | etc | 17:55 |
| ajo | dhcp, floating ips, separate compute nodes, network nodes... | 17:55 |
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| ajo | of course, feel free to double-check, as you said, not tested on the gate is always a high risk | 17:56 |
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| ajo | did we ever had multi node gate tests? | 17:56 |
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| ajo | to be clear, I didn't check this exact implementation, but the backported one to Juno (APIs differ sightly because of the abstraction layer for ovsdb) but it's in my plans to run test br-tun on master too | 17:57 |
| ajo | secure + rules not broken: that is tested | 17:57 |
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| salv-orlando | ajo: yes that would be enough for me. We have never done multi node testing in the gate unfortunately | 17:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zengfa Gao proposed openstack/neutron: Use common agent.linux.utils.ensure_dir method https://review.openstack.org/154103 | 18:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Check conntrack rule cleanup on floating IP disassociate https://review.openstack.org/133934 | 18:13 |
| pc_m | Wondering if anyone has seen this... I updated a patch for a review in my neutron-vpnaas repo, and tried to run tox. It is failing with an ImportError: neutron.hooks.setup_hook | 18:14 |
| pc_m | I tried removing the .tox area, updating the neutron repo to latest, running setup.py install in neutron repo. Can't seem to clear this error. | 18:15 |
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| pc_m | It seems to be right at the end of installing the pbr egg (says installed, and then next line has E"RROR:root:Error parsing" and a T/B with the import error. | 18:16 |
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| pc_m | Anyone have any ideas? | 18:17 |
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| pc_m | Tox output... http://paste.openstack.org/show/172257 | 18:18 |
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| dougwig | that should've been fixed with 155152 (neutron) | 18:19 |
| dougwig | pc_m: ^^ | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: keepalived: use sh instead of bash for notifier scripts https://review.openstack.org/154931 | 18:19 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: Thanks! Looks like it just merged. I'll try refreshing my neutron repo. | 18:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | German Eichberger proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Reorder Neutron import statements in file https://review.openstack.org/142507 | 18:51 |
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| anteaya | dougwig: why are import statements being reordered? | 18:56 |
| anteaya | dougwig: I had thought that the order of import statements was important to keep to avoid package collision | 18:57 |
| anteaya | dougwig: am I missing something in my understanding? | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Raise timeout for test_conntrack_disassociate_fip https://review.openstack.org/155445 | 18:57 |
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| HenryG | anteaya: Where are import statements being reordered? | 19:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rajeev Grover proposed openstack/neutron: Prevent race conditions on DVR FIP resources https://review.openstack.org/153422 | 19:09 |
| ZZelle_ | salv-orl_, hi | 19:10 |
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| HenryG | anteaya: I guess you are referring to https://review.openstack.org/142507 | 19:12 |
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| HenryG | anteaya: Import order does not matter in Python (except for some special cases like monkey patching) | 19:13 |
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| HenryG | anteaya: We have some hacking rules to group and alphabetically order import statements | 19:13 |
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| prometheanfire | anyone around for a +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154128/ | 19:15 |
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| anteaya | HenryG: sorry was having lunch, yes that was the patch to which I was referring | 19:16 |
| anteaya | HenryG: okay thanks | 19:16 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: hey, don't you think 100 seconds is a little high? | 19:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Implementation of Brocade Vyatta VPNaaS Plugin https://review.openstack.org/154720 | 19:19 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: this test is waiting for a netcat timeout, right? | 19:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor management of namespaces in the L3 Agent https://review.openstack.org/147744 | 19:21 |
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| kevinbenton | is the next OpenStack release officially called Liberty? | 19:21 |
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| HenryG | kevinbenton: yup :( | 19:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from SecurityGroupAgentRpc https://review.openstack.org/155013 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from IptablesManager https://review.openstack.org/154969 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from linuxbridge https://review.openstack.org/155014 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from L3 Agent https://review.openstack.org/155212 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from external_process https://review.openstack.org/154959 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Add run_as_root option to utils.execute https://review.openstack.org/153067 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from DHCP agent https://review.openstack.org/155188 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from AsyncProcess https://review.openstack.org/155101 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg for ovs_lib https://review.openstack.org/154914 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Stop using passed root_helper in ip_lib https://review.openstack.org/145829 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from IpsetManager https://review.openstack.org/154980 | 19:22 |
| markmcclain | ihrachyshka: yeah I think the discussion part is needed | 19:22 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: ok, I have untangled my root_helper stuff from the processutils.execute/monkey_patch mess. :) | 19:23 |
| kevinbenton | HenryG: sounds very patriotic | 19:24 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy, markmcclain: we are bombarding ihrachyshka with IRC messages :) | 19:25 |
| kevinbenton | once he gets back to his compute he will think there is a crisis | 19:25 |
| markmcclain | haha | 19:25 |
| ihrachyshka | kevinbenton, well, I stole 100 from another func test that uses the assert | 19:25 |
| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: and he should be drinking a beer right now, getting kind of late there. | 19:25 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ping | 19:26 |
| ihrachyshka | markmcclain, ack, just sent an email: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056790.html | 19:26 |
| * otherwiseguy owes ihrachyshka several beers by now | 19:26 | |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: can we decrease the netcat timeout time just in the interest of fast functional tests when possible? | 19:26 |
| ihrachyshka | kevinbenton, it takes ~12 secs on my machine | 19:26 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: or where is the bottleneck? | 19:26 |
| ihrachyshka | kevinbenton, it's always crisis, it's neutron | 19:26 |
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| markmcclain | ihrachyshka: awesome thanks | 19:27 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: i like to call it realtime development | 19:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add callbacks-based system to Neutron https://review.openstack.org/153774 | 19:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Decouple L3 and service plugins during DVR router migration https://review.openstack.org/154749 | 19:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Decouple L3 base and VPN service plugins during router operations https://review.openstack.org/153776 | 19:27 |
| ihrachyshka | kevinbenton, I can look into it tomorrow, though we need band-aid now | 19:27 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: ack | 19:27 |
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| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, that series ^^ makes me feel better (I'm not the only one bombing gate with dilletante patches) | 19:28 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachyshka: :) If anyone wants to review it as a single patch, I'll happily squash it for them...and watch them go insane. | 19:28 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, ok, I will not forget that several beers thing if I get to CA | 19:29 |
| ihrachyshka | otherwiseguy, no no no, please don't | 19:29 |
| otherwiseguy | I'm surprised I'm still marginally functioning. They are not particularly interesting patches to write. :) | 19:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add callbacks-based system to Neutron https://review.openstack.org/153774 | 19:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Decouple L3 and service plugins during DVR router migration https://review.openstack.org/154749 | 19:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Decouple L3 base and VPN service plugins during router operations https://review.openstack.org/153776 | 19:30 |
| otherwiseguy | But it will be quite satisfying when they're all finished. | 19:30 |
| ihrachyshka | ok, now going for beer. cheers to everyone, and please baby-sit that band-aid patch if possible | 19:31 |
| LeanReox | hi guys, is there any known issue with centos5 VMs trying to access metadata ? cause centos 6 and 7 and ubuntu works just fine, but centos5 can ping metadata ip but cant curl to it | 19:31 |
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| LeanReox | im running juno release | 19:31 |
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| jogo | your breaking global-requirements on master | 19:33 |
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| jogo | http://logs.openstack.org/82/155182/1/check/check-requirements-integration-dsvm/ea9a7d2/console.html#_2015-02-12_13_25_28_078 | 19:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Automate host configuration for functional testing https://review.openstack.org/146113 | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Add native OVSDB implmentation of OVSDB API https://review.openstack.org/152761 | 19:34 |
| jogo | kevinbenton: ^ | 19:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Erik Colnick proposed openstack/neutron: Improve DVR scale performance https://review.openstack.org/150110 | 19:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Erik Colnick proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor to facilitate DVR scale performance https://review.openstack.org/150576 | 19:35 |
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| kevinbenton | jogo: what causes that? | 19:36 |
| otherwiseguy | ugh. maru, I think I just effectively rebased your automate host configuration for functional testing patch because I am not a smart man. | 19:36 |
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| kevinbenton | jogo: that's just a warning right? the failure is coming from that neutron.hooks.setup_hook below, right? | 19:39 |
| jogo | kevinbenton: correct | 19:40 |
| jogo | setuphook is faiing | 19:40 |
| dougwig | anteaya: order of imports should affect packaging at all (you might mean dependencies and requirements for that?) but from the context of the new repos, neutron is now a third-party library, so pep8 says that imports of neutron should be in the second block of imports, not the third. there was another proposal to do what horizon does and make a new fourth | 19:40 |
| dougwig | block for neutron imports (so, "standard, third-party, neutron, self" ordering.) lbaas re-ordered with 3 to fit pep8, there's a review out to do the same for vpn, and i don't think fwaas has changed anything. | 19:40 |
| jogo | talking about in -qa | 19:40 |
| anteaya | dougwig: wow | 19:41 |
| anteaya | and yeah, perhaps I mean requirements | 19:41 |
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| kevinbenton | dougwig: i have a meeting starting now. can you look into this? | 19:42 |
| anteaya | dougwig: how does that work for horizon? | 19:42 |
| dougwig | kevinbenton: sure, what am i looking at? | 19:42 |
| HenryG | jogo: Let me try to help | 19:43 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: pong | 19:43 |
| kevinbenton | jogo: oh, based on the discussion in openstack-qa it sounds like a fix was just merged? | 19:43 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147744/ and I’m nearly finished with rebasing it. | 19:43 |
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| dougwig | anteaya: i meant "should not", not "should" up there. | 19:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Implementation of Brocade Vyatta VPNaaS Plugin https://review.openstack.org/154720 | 19:44 |
| jogo | yeah sounds like it, will know soon | 19:44 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I addresses a lot of my feedback on PS16 but you might want to read through it. | 19:45 |
| anteaya | dougwig: yeah, I heard should not in the context | 19:45 |
| dougwig | anteaya: our flake8 seems to be lax about import order and grouping. what context of "work for horizon" are you referring to? | 19:45 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: how do you see us moving ahead with this? Are you going to review it and I continue from there? | 19:45 |
| HenryG | jogo, kevinbenton, dougwig: yes that looks like the monkey patch issue that was reverted, https://review.openstack.org/155152 | 19:45 |
| dougwig | anteaya: and by "our" in that last, i mean "openstack's flake8", not neutron. | 19:45 |
| anteaya | dougwig: you mentioned that you are copying what horizon does, does what horizon does work for horizon? | 19:45 |
| dougwig | i am the kind of imprecise today. | 19:45 |
| dougwig | /kind/king. | 19:45 |
| dougwig | sigh. | 19:45 |
| anteaya | dougwig: I feel ya | 19:45 |
| jogo | HenryG: correct | 19:45 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: or you want to conitnue working on it? I want to help but I don't want to get in the way | 19:46 |
| dougwig | anteaya: we're actually currently following strict pep8, and doing "standard, third-party, self", where neutron is a third-party module. we had one reviewer give feedback suggesting the horizon method, during the vpn code review to reorder stuff. i don't think any discussion or decision has happened on that. | 19:46 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: either way or a combinatio of both is fine with me | 19:46 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I thought I’d take care of much of yesterday’s feedback since you were otherwise occupied. Today, I thought I’d take care of the rebase because I merged Henry’s radvd refactor. | 19:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor management of namespaces in the L3 Agent https://review.openstack.org/147744 | 19:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I’ll hand the reins back to you. | 19:47 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ^^ | 19:47 |
| anteaya | dougwig: ah okay cool I mis-understood | 19:47 |
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| anteaya | dougwig: thanks for the education | 19:47 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: great. I'll use the next couple of hours to do some things for my day job adn then i'll go back to this patchset :-) | 19:48 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: okay | 19:49 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: thanks for the help | 19:49 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: You too. | 19:49 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I like this.... I get to learn from you and contribute at the same time. thanks | 19:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I’m hope I’m not leading you astray. ;) | 19:52 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Are you around? | 19:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I hope I got all of the tests passing with the patch. I got to the point where I thought they were all good. We’ll see if Jenkins agrees. | 19:53 |
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| mlavalle | mlavalle: ok, i'll wathc it | 19:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Justin Hammond proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Client command extension support https://review.openstack.org/148318 | 19:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Justin Hammond proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Client command extension support https://review.openstack.org/148318 | 19:56 |
| roaet | <- pro git review spammer | 19:56 |
| roaet | :P | 19:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: ping | 19:57 |
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| roaet | please forgive me :( | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce External IPAM Interface https://review.openstack.org/134339 | 20:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce External IPAM Interface https://review.openstack.org/134339 | 20:08 |
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| dougwig | roaet: scroll up to see ihrachyshka post about 20 in a row. you have some catching up to do. :) | 20:14 |
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| roaet | dougwig: ha.. awesome | 20:14 |
| roaet | I don't feel so bad | 20:14 |
| dougwig | you're just consuming your own companies VM nodes, so... :) | 20:14 |
| roaet | mm. never considered it that way | 20:15 |
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| dougwig | company's. i think i need to go back to bed today. i can't grammar. | 20:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Justin Hammond proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Client command extension support https://review.openstack.org/148318 | 20:19 |
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| kfox1111 | ok. running into a problem. just upgraded from icehouse to juno. almost everything seems to be working. | 20:21 |
| kfox1111 | Ive got a lbaas pool that isn't working tough... its tap is: | 20:21 |
| kfox1111 | Port "tap1ca011a2-c8" tag: 4095 | 20:22 |
| kfox1111 | badly tagged. | 20:22 |
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| kfox1111 | ideas? | 20:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Break coupling between ML2 and L3 during create/update operations https://review.openstack.org/153775 | 20:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Break coupling between ML2 and L3 during delete operation https://review.openstack.org/155470 | 20:25 |
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| kfox1111 | why would lbaas ports go 4095 when the rest of the services are working? | 20:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shiv Haris proposed openstack/neutron: Do not review. https://review.openstack.org/152383 | 20:40 |
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| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: pong | 20:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Do you have a moment to talk about ipam? | 20:50 |
| johnbelamaric | sure | 20:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: So, I’ve tried to address most of the feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134339/ | 20:51 |
| carl_baldwin | The PS18 L221 discussion remains. | 20:52 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: I think your last suggestion was to pass in the Subnet object. The issue I see with that is that the Subnet object doesn’t actually have any of the subnet details on it. | 20:52 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: ^ That might be a problem in and of itself. | 20:53 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: ah. shows what i know | 20:53 |
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| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: seems odd | 20:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Agreed that it does seem a bit odd. | 20:54 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: I haven’t decided how to make it better yet. | 20:54 |
| kfox1111 | hmm... the config all looks just like my other cloud that's working. :/ | 20:54 |
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| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: I recall a discussion that these classes are passing around dicts instead of real objects. this is very strange to me but it may be my Ruby on Rails background that makes it look so odd | 20:55 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: I just noticed more comments that I need to catch up on from you and Akihiro from PS18. So hard to stay on top of the comments sometimes. | 20:55 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: yes especially across various patch sets | 20:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Which classes passing around dicts? That is true in the API. | 20:56 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: let me look at the code for a minute | 20:56 |
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| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: look in db_base_plugin_v2 it's all over. this will be the primary consumer of the interface | 20:58 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: Right, there are lots of dicts in there. | 20:58 |
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| anteaya | for any neutron folks who care, nova meeting is about to start in -meeting | 21:00 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: so, if you look at update_subnet in there, it's getting a subnet dict i believe. so, there was discussion at some point of stopping passing around dicts and use real objects - i figured if we are building an interface we should do that, even if the actual db_base_plugin changes to do that are not going to happen in Kilo | 21:01 |
| amuller | johnbelamaric++ | 21:01 |
| amuller | be part of the solution ;-) | 21:01 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: This ipam interface won’t accept any of those dicts. The consumer will have to massage the data from the dicts in to the ipam api. | 21:01 |
| johnbelamaric | amuller: :) | 21:02 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: right, but for update_subnet, what should it take? assuming we want to inform IPAM of the changes, which would generally be to name, allocation pool, maybe someone could try to change gateway_ip that way | 21:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: I certainly did not want to proliferate the usage of those dicts by having them passed to the ipam api. | 21:02 |
| kfox1111 | hmm... I restarted some services, and now I have less ports tagged with 4095, but still a few... | 21:02 |
| kfox1111 | why would that be flaky? | 21:02 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: generally we don't need to pass them in - we have request objects - but for update/delete we need to pass something. delete maybe just ID | 21:03 |
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| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: we could pass just ID to update, but then the driver would have to go to the DB to read the object | 21:03 |
| carl_baldwin | kfox1111: It will help if you tag the specific user to whom you’re addressing your comments. Given the current context, they seem to be coming out of nowhere and are likely lost in the noise. | 21:03 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: delete (actually deallocate) takes only the cidr in the current form. | 21:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: No, I don’t want the driver to read from the db. | 21:04 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: that should be enough in the context of the pool | 21:04 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: for delete i mean | 21:04 |
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| kfox1111 | carl_baldwin: I'm coming in cold with a problem. Not sure who to address comments to... | 21:05 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: ok. so, that's sort of what the discussion is getting at - how does the external IPAM know about the meta-data, in both the create and the update | 21:05 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: if you look at my comment from 2/5 9:01am on line 221 of PS 18, that's what I am trying to get at | 21:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: I think I have my head wrapped around the problem. Unfortunately, I have a meeting very soon that I need to get to. I will make another update to the interface to address it and then I’ll ping you for confirmation. | 21:08 |
| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: sounds good, i need to head out shortly anyway | 21:09 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: okay, ttyl. | 21:09 |
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| johnbelamaric | carl_baldwin: ttyl | 21:09 |
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| ZZelle_ | dougwig, hi | 21:19 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: ping | 21:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Erik Colnick proposed openstack/neutron: Improve DVR scale performance https://review.openstack.org/150110 | 21:27 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: pong | 21:31 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: does what i said on this review make sense, or am i misinterpreting the change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149546/ | 21:31 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: The issue this is addressing is that, at least most of the time, people create their external network as a normal tenant network (VLAN, GRE, VXLAN, whatever), and this allocates a segmentation_id that will never be used because they are using the external bridge, which ignores the network’s definition. | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: right, but i'm pointing out that this is usually the opposite with our VLAN based deployments | 21:34 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: we don't use a separate bridge for external networks | 21:34 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: But I do kind of agree we shouldn’t be hard-wiring in a specific type. One option would be to add a new default_external_network_type config variable, and maybe have it default to ‘local’. | 21:35 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I agree that many do not use the external bridge. If not using this, the provider attributes need to be supplied, right? | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: no, if no provider attributes are supplied, it will go through the auto allocation | 21:36 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: Right, and this patch is changing that to use ‘local’ instead of the tenent_network_types config variable. | 21:37 |
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| rkukura | Only when provider attributes are not supplied and external=True | 21:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce External IPAM Interface https://review.openstack.org/134339 | 21:37 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: yeah, i don't like that :) | 21:37 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: i do see where it is nice for overlays | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: since the external network is frequently not a tunnel network | 21:38 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Even with VLANs, the one randomly allocated is not likely the one that connects to the outside world. | 21:39 |
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| rkukura | With tunnels, wasting a segmentation_id value isn’t a big deal, but with VLANs it might be. | 21:39 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: it's not a waste. it's what the external network is on | 21:39 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: in our workflow we let openstack pick a vlan for itself | 21:40 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Are you saying there is a common use case where the external network gets created with a random VLAN tag, and then someone goes into the switch and configures that VLAN to be routed externally? | 21:40 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: yes, in our fabric the network UUID is the identifier for a broadcast domain | 21:41 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: VLANs are just used to define membership associations with specific ports | 21:41 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: so the VLAN openstack picks can be random, that's just used to associate the ports with compute nodes to the external segment with that VLAN | 21:42 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: Interesting. | 21:42 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: then the admin can add whatever rules to that segment to connect in the router to the network segment | 21:43 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Sounds like maybe you should be using HPB and dynamic VLAN segments for the switch<->node link. | 21:43 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Anyway, I see why this patch could be problematic for you right now. | 21:44 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: How about the idea of a default_external_network_type config variable? | 21:45 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: we happen to work with flexible VLANs to the edge, but that might not always be the case | 21:45 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: either way, i don't like this automagic re-mapping based on it being an external network | 21:46 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: if we are going to go down this route, i would rather it just force the user to specify | 21:47 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: I think that would break devstack and lots of scripts and so forth that expect to be using an external bridge and ignoring whatever gets allocated for the external network. | 21:48 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: but what is proposed there will break anything that sets this to '' https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/etc/l3_agent.ini#L46 | 21:49 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I certainly don’t feel the automagic re-mapping is absolutely necessary. It just seemed like a minor tweek to avoding wasting VLAN tags in a common case. | 21:49 |
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| amuller | armax: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1418097 | 21:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1418097 in neutron "Kernel panic or ovs-vswitch crash when running DVR functional test" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce External IPAM Interface https://review.openstack.org/134339 | 21:50 |
| amuller | please see comments 9 and 10 | 21:50 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: When external_network_bridge is not empty (including the default of ‘br-ex’), network_type is ignored, and ‘local’ works fine. In fact, that’s what I’ve always recommended people specify when creating an external network and using an external bridge. | 21:51 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: i know. i'm talking about when it is empty | 21:52 |
| kevinbenton | that's what i meant by '' | 21:52 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: Looked like one double-quote rather than two single-quotes. | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: ah | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: and we prefer that deployment because then external networks follow the same semantics as all tenant networks | 21:53 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: OK, so I see how this breaks your case needing a real VLAN tag assigned. | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: there aren't different debugging paths, etc | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: and we can support multiple external networks if people want them | 21:54 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Completely agree with you an avoiding the special external bridge. I really wish we could remove that, or at least change the default to “”. | 21:54 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: what happens if local is chosen when there isn't a different external bridge? | 21:54 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: does that become untagged? | 21:55 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: In that case, the external network isn’t very external ;) | 21:55 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: With type ‘local’ traffic never leaves br-int. | 21:56 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: ok | 21:56 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: So you’ve convinced my that there is a valid use case for external networks being allocated just like normal tenant networks. | 21:57 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: we need a setting on the server side to know whether or not external bridges will be used | 21:57 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: because then we can put warning logging in when there is a misconfigured l3 agent | 21:57 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: and we can also branch on that for this automatic mapping to local | 21:58 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: I’d hate to add a setting that does nothing but control whether a warning gets generated. And I agree we can’t count on agent config being available in the server. | 21:58 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: well it will control this mapping. | 21:59 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: and we have no way to detect now if there is a mix of configurations between l3 agents | 21:59 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Why not just add a default_external_network_type config variable. If this is empty, then tenant_network_types is used, just like today. If its set, then that type is used when external is set and no provider attributes are specified. | 21:59 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: so the warning would be bonus debugging | 21:59 |
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| maishsk | EE390F79 | 22:00 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: I’d prefer to just start deprecating external_network_bridge. | 22:00 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: that might be hard | 22:01 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: unfortunately it can be pretty useful because people can setup that bridge to do all sorts of stuff | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: other physical interfaces could be on it | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: or tunnels to narnia or whatever | 22:02 |
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| rkukura | kevinbenton: Same could be done with a physical_network name mapping to a dedicated bridge. | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: i'm fine with those config semantics you suggested for default_external_network_type | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: oh right, i forgot about that | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: always just use one | 22:03 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: ok, so let's do that then | 22:04 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: I’ll add a quick comment to the review suggesting to consider adding the default_external_network_type config variable. The tricky part would be what its default should be - empty vs. ‘local’ | 22:04 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: add default_external_network_type | 22:04 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: we can fight about empty vs. local | 22:04 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: i think i'm fine with defaulting to local | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: because tunnels are more common | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: we can just clear that in our deployment tools | 22:06 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: i added a comment to the review | 22:09 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: so did I | 22:09 |
| kevinbenton | rkukura: ok, can you check the outline of the code i put in my comment to make sure we are on the same page? | 22:10 |
| rkukura | kevinbenton: Just did ;) | 22:11 |
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| kevinbenton | rkukura: great! | 22:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from L3 Agent https://review.openstack.org/155212 | 23:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from DHCP agent https://review.openstack.org/155188 | 23:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from AsyncProcess https://review.openstack.org/155101 | 23:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove root_helper arg from linux interface https://review.openstack.org/155522 | 23:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Terry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Remove remaining root_helper args from plugins https://review.openstack.org/155523 | 23:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Fix AttributeError exception for API's test_network_lifecycle https://review.openstack.org/155528 | 23:23 |
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| jogo | so this is still a top gate bug: http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1323658 | 23:32 |
| jogo | kevinbenton: ^ | 23:32 |
| jogo | neutron only | 23:32 |
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| watanabe_isao | Good morning to ALL...:) | 23:33 |
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| jogo | anteaya: so one of the top gate bugs is a neutron+nova bug its been around for way too long | 23:39 |
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| jogo | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1323658 | 23:40 |
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| armax | anteaya: ping | 23:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: DO NOT MERGE, test units https://review.openstack.org/155535 | 23:59 |
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