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| shivharis | armax: hi | 00:15 |
| armax | shivharis: hello | 00:15 |
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| shivharis | armax: you seem to have a concern, please describe | 00:16 |
| armax | shivharis: well, how clarify! :) | 00:16 |
| armax | shivharis: I don’t understand what that plugin is for | 00:16 |
| armax | shivharis: it’s a dummy class, no? | 00:16 |
| shivharis | armax: yes this is dummy - the real import is done by the ml2 plugin which is now moved to networking_brocade | 00:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add README and requirements.txt for VMware plugins https://review.openstack.org/163244 | 00:18 |
| armax | shivharis: ok, so why do you keep this at all? | 00:18 |
| shivharis | armax: the dummy is only to get folks off this in a clean manner | 00:18 |
| armax | shivharis: besides ml2 != l3 | 00:18 |
| armax | shivharis: nah, that’s not the right way at all | 00:18 |
| armax | shivharis: why do you think this is clean? | 00:18 |
| shivharis | armax: it could be nothing at all here as well | 00:18 |
| armax | shivharis: it’s only masking an error in configuration | 00:19 |
| armax | shivharis: it’s a time bomb, that’s what it is :) | 00:19 |
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| shivharis | armax: what is ur suggestion | 00:20 |
| armax | shivharis: have you considered dropping it altogether? | 00:20 |
| shivharis | armax: i could remove everything | 00:20 |
| armax | shivharis: is that going to be replaced by this one? | 00:20 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159056/? | 00:20 |
| shivharis | armax: no that is different | 00:21 |
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| armax | ok | 00:21 |
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| shivharis | armax: the same stackforge has stuff for the vdx hardware as well, which is what will be used | 00:22 |
| armax | so the BrocadeSVIPlugin is in stackforge, correct? | 00:22 |
| shivharis | exactly | 00:23 |
| shivharis | yes | 00:23 |
| shivharis | I can remove the class in the shim completely if that is what u recommend | 00:23 |
| armax | shivharis: well, I think that your actions need to be consistent | 00:23 |
| armax | shivharis: If you do what you do here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152383/17/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/brocade/mechanism_brocade.py | 00:24 |
| armax | shivharis: it makes sense to do the same for the l3 service plugin | 00:24 |
| shivharis | i was being nice to the end customer - but consistency is a good argument you gave | 00:24 |
| shivharis | armax: will that satisfy the concern, anything else u see? | 00:25 |
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| armax | shivharis: I’d argue the opposite, you’re nasty to the end customer who see things starting and nothing working :) | 00:26 |
| shivharis | :-) hmmm.. :-) | 00:26 |
| armax | shivharis: nothing else caught my eye, but I have been pretty congested | 00:26 |
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| armax | shivharis: so my eye is a bit watery :) | 00:26 |
| shivharis | armax: anything else u see that is of concern - or is that the only issue? (i dont want it the start flooding..) | 00:27 |
| armax | what flooding? | 00:28 |
| shivharis | ok, i will take care of this in the next 10 mins | 00:28 |
| shivharis | watery.. never mind | 00:28 |
| armax | :) | 00:28 |
| armax | shivharis: ic | 00:28 |
| shivharis | armax: thanks, it will be there shortly, no more class definition | 00:29 |
| armax | shivharis: ok | 00:30 |
| shivharis | armax: ok, ttyl | 00:30 |
| armax | shivharis: thanks, ttyl | 00:30 |
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| HenryG | mestery: still around? | 02:07 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: Sorry, had to take off. | 02:58 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: Having the l2 agent worry about dhcp seems strange. | 02:59 |
| marun | kevinbenton: But it saves a coordination step. | 02:59 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: We're conflating 'port up' with 'port ready for vm' at the server currently. If we treat those differently, I think it might make sense for the l2 agent to report on dhcp status since it can verify as close to the vm as possible that dhcp will be available. | 03:01 |
| marun | kevinbenton: The other option might be adding yet another agent that can report on that same state, but I'm not sure the added complexity is justified. | 03:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-agent: Separate ovs-ofctl using code as a driver https://review.openstack.org/160245 | 04:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Schedule net to a DHCP agt on subnet create https://review.openstack.org/163672 | 04:06 |
| kevinbenton | marun: still around? | 04:08 |
| marun | kevinbenton: yes | 04:08 |
| marun | kevinbenton: thoughts? | 04:09 |
| kevinbenton | marun: so how does the L2 agent on the compute node know that DHCP is ready? | 04:09 |
| kevinbenton | marun: would we have logic like, 'if not.port_owner.startswith(neutron): poll for dhcp port' | 04:10 |
| kevinbenton | 'once dhcp port is ready, set port status to up' | 04:10 |
| marun | kevinbenton: something like that, yeah | 04:10 |
| kevinbenton | marun: that's just so crazy it might work! | 04:10 |
| marun | kevinbenton: as far as how to tell the dhcp port is ready, the only guaranteed way is to actually invoke dhcping | 04:11 |
| kevinbenton | marun: right | 04:11 |
| kevinbenton | marun: i chatted with salvatore about that a bit after you left | 04:11 |
| kevinbenton | marun: seeing that the DHCP port is up is only half of it | 04:11 |
| marun | kevinbenton: right. | 04:11 |
| kevinbenton | marun: it's sort of a sliding scale of complexity vs complete safety | 04:12 |
| marun | kevinbenton: and if we actually verified that dhcp was working before booting a vm it should reduce the potential failure domain | 04:12 |
| marun | kevinbenton: agreed | 04:12 |
| kevinbenton | marun: can dhcping bind to an arbitrary tap port to send requests? | 04:12 |
| marun | kevinbenton: not sure, tbh. If not, we could always implement a minimal client entirely in python. | 04:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: ofagent: Update after networking-ofagent release https://review.openstack.org/163273 | 04:14 |
| kevinbenton | marun: what do you think about starting with that patch i just proposed? | 04:14 |
| kevinbenton | marun: https://review.openstack.org/163672 | 04:14 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: Seems reasonable | 04:16 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I think the proposed patch is an optimization if we verify dhcp is live before reporting to nova. | 04:16 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: but I don't think it would hurt. | 04:16 |
| kevinbenton | marun: yeah, i think this just buys us a little more room | 04:16 |
| marun | kevinbenton: what did salvatore have to say about why the port wasn't previously created on subnet creation? | 04:17 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: he said he thought it was done to save resources | 04:18 |
| marun | kevinbenton: which resources in particular? | 04:18 |
| kevinbenton | marun: but he wasn't strongly sold on the argument so he was fine with a change | 04:18 |
| kevinbenton | marun: on the dhcp agent | 04:18 |
| kevinbenton | marun: spinning up an unnecessary dnsmasq process | 04:18 |
| marun | kevinbenton: hmmm | 04:18 |
| marun | kevinbenton: well, if it proves a problem the change can be reversed pretty easiliy | 04:19 |
| marun | kevinbenton: and a dhcp liveness check will ensure that vm's don't fail due to the previous race | 04:19 |
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| kevinbenton | marun: so do you think i should go all out and try the dhcping full verification | 04:20 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I have mixed feelings. | 04:21 |
| marun | kevinbenton: It is clearly a potential failure mode | 04:21 |
| marun | kevinbenton: I don't have a good sense of how likely it actually is | 04:21 |
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| marun | kevinbenton: I would tend to work on the thing that is causing us the most pain. | 04:22 |
| kevinbenton | marun: let's start with this and i'll see what kind of dhcp agent failures i still get when working on the scaling stuff | 04:22 |
| marun | kevinbenton: Is your sense that this is a serious enough problem to address before other issues? | 04:22 |
| marun | kevinbenton: fair enough | 04:22 |
| marun | kevinbenton: if you're seeing failure due to this problem, then it would seem a good problem to solve | 04:22 |
| kevinbenton | marun: it was pretty rare to encounter, and i think this will make it even harder to hit | 04:23 |
| kevinbenton | marun: the patch i just proposed, that is | 04:23 |
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| trinaths | Hi all, Very Good Morning :) | 05:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: OVS-agent: Separate ovs-ofctl using code as a driver https://review.openstack.org/160245 | 05:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hong Hui Xiao proposed openstack/neutron: Always run dnsmasq as root https://review.openstack.org/161567 | 06:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/163708 | 06:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Ml2 Mechanism Driver for OVSvApp Solution https://review.openstack.org/160247 | 08:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Schedule net to a DHCP agt on subnet create https://review.openstack.org/163672 | 08:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Return 404 when executing net-list-on-dhcp-agent with invalid agent_id https://review.openstack.org/159046 | 08:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor retry mechanism used in some DB operations https://review.openstack.org/149261 | 08:46 |
| openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Set default of api_workers to number of CPUs https://review.openstack.org/140493 | 08:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | pritesh proposed openstack/neutron: Adding VLAN Transparency support for ML2 along with REST API changes https://review.openstack.org/158420 | 09:00 |
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| matrohon | rossella_s : hi | 09:13 |
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| rossella_s | matrohon: hi | 09:29 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachyshka, congratz, friend! :) | 09:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Hirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Fix l3_agentschedulers_db for consistency of code https://review.openstack.org/163740 | 09:34 |
| ihrachyshka | jschwarz, tnx | 09:34 |
| * ihrachyshka is a bit scared of possessing +2 hammer. I need to learn to use it with due care. | 09:34 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Stop using RPC namespace to unbreak rolling upgrades https://review.openstack.org/163676 | 09:39 |
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| amotoki | ihrachyshka: congrats! | 09:47 |
| ihrachyshka | amotoki, thanks, will do my best | 09:48 |
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| trinaths | ihrachyshka: Congratulations.. | 10:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Migrate to oslo.log https://review.openstack.org/159638 | 10:23 |
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| ihrachyshka | yamamoto, btw thanks for your comments, that are usually very detailed | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: iptables firewall: add framework for iptables firewall functional test https://review.openstack.org/160051 | 10:28 |
| openstackgerrit | yalei wang proposed openstack/neutron: Add portsecurity extension support https://review.openstack.org/126552 | 10:28 |
| yamamoto | ihrachyshka: np | 10:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Praveen Kumar SM proposed openstack/neutron: DHCP Service LoadBalancing Scheduler https://review.openstack.org/137017 | 10:31 |
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| kerpan | What's the best practice to implement an old abandon blueprint started by someone else? Contact the author? Start a new one? (The design is 'drafting' and there is some code waiting for review with no activity for more then 1 year) | 10:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ihar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Add the rebinding chance in _bind_port_if_needed https://review.openstack.org/162260 | 10:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Reload DHCP interface when port is updated https://review.openstack.org/163758 | 10:48 |
| ParsectiX_ | Hello guys. I'm trying to create a router and attach it to a network | 10:48 |
| ParsectiX_ | neutron router-create router_2 | 10:48 |
| ParsectiX_ | neutron router-interface-add router_2 <UUID of the subnet> | 10:48 |
| ParsectiX_ | but I'm getting Bad request | 10:49 |
| ParsectiX_ | The subnet must have DHCP enabled ? | 10:49 |
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| amotoki | ParsectiX_: there is no need to enable DHCP for a subnet. | 11:07 |
| amotoki | ParsectiX_: what message did you get in BadRequest response? | 11:07 |
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| ParsectiX_ | amotoki: Bad Request (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: | 11:33 |
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| amotoki | ParsectiX_: no detail message? Some versions of neutronclient behaves so. IIRC, in this case neutron -v router-interface-add would show the detail message. | 11:35 |
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| ParsectiX_ | <amotoki> Thanks for the info | 11:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Drop support for SQL Schema Downgrades https://review.openstack.org/163787 | 11:55 |
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| raorn | hi | 12:00 |
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| raorn | I am trying to backport two commits into stable/icehouse | 12:00 |
| raorn | git review decided to squash them into one, but this is cherry-picks... | 12:01 |
| HenryG | raorn: which commits? | 12:01 |
| raorn | https://review.openstack.org/163783 https://review.openstack.org/163784 | 12:02 |
| raorn | dhcp in v6-only networks | 12:02 |
| HenryG | raorn: Have you tried the "Cherry Pick To" button in the gerrit UI? | 12:03 |
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| raorn | HenryG: there are two different comits and I tried git review -X | 12:03 |
| raorn | on both master commits | 12:04 |
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| HenryG | raorn: I have only done backports on already merged patches. Maybe check with ihrachyshka | 12:05 |
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| raorn | both these patches are merged and even backported to juno | 12:06 |
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| raorn | i don't think it's right to squash these two patches, since this is cherry-picks or two different commits. but decided to ask here. | 12:07 |
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| ihrachyshka | raorn, hm, do we even have ipv6 supported in icehouse? | 12:07 |
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| raorn | ihrachyshka: even in havana | 12:11 |
| ihrachyshka | raorn, really? are you sure? afaik ipv6 attrs were disabled for icehouse | 12:11 |
| raorn | only dhcpv6-statefull supported | 12:11 |
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| ihrachyshka | raorn, are you sure we speak about upstream releases and not some local changes in some distro? | 12:12 |
| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Implement Neutron IPv6 Prefix Delegation https://review.openstack.org/158697 | 12:13 |
| raorn | openstack knows nothing about SLAAC | 12:13 |
| ihrachyshka | raorn, "With the IceHouse release of OpenStack, only IPv6 Upstream Provider Network support with VLANs is feasible." | 12:14 |
| ihrachyshka | that's from http://techs.enovance.com/7199/journey-of-ipv6-in-openstack | 12:14 |
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| raorn | ihrachyshka: I build openstack myself from gihtub repos, but our local changes are minimal. | 12:14 |
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| ihrachyshka | so how do you create a ipv6 subnet while https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I69a1a571b5beb566641200e60b84f0716c1ec138,n,z is merged in icehouse? | 12:15 |
| raorn | ihrachyshka: we only have provider networks and IPv6 (-only and dualstack) works fine since havana | 12:15 |
| ihrachyshka | ah right, so provider networks. ok, looking. | 12:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | vikram.choudhary proposed openstack/neutron: Time Sync As Service https://review.openstack.org/163793 | 12:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/neutron: Move mlnx agent to be under ml2/drivers/mlnx https://review.openstack.org/162693 | 12:21 |
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| raorn | ihrachyshka: I guess "Hide ipv6 subnet API attributes" creates some problems with IPv6, but I'm not shure what is wrong. mayme my view is limited by provider networks... | 12:29 |
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| ihrachyshka | raorn, sorry if my questions are dumb, but do you really run dhcp agent for provider networks? | 12:30 |
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| ihrachyshka | raorn, ok, I think I get how your setup looks like. makes sense. | 12:37 |
| raorn | ihrachyshka: yes. we are give VLAN and set of subnets (real addresses). "provider" does routing and RA, we only can manage flags in announces | 12:38 |
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| ihrachyshka | raorn, so back to your original problem with patch squashing... looking at the patches, I don't see any problems. These two patches are properly linked in a list of dependencies. What's your problem with them? | 12:40 |
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| raorn | ihrachyshka: no problem. this is the fist time I backport several commits at once, better ask ;-) | 12:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Return 404 when executing net-list-on-dhcp-agent with invalid agent_id https://review.openstack.org/159046 | 13:36 |
| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Implement Neutron IPv6 Prefix Delegation https://review.openstack.org/158697 | 13:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]: Add reset methods to WsgiWorker and RPCWorker https://review.openstack.org/161732 | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rob Pothier proposed openstack/neutron: Add MTU selection to ML2 https://review.openstack.org/156318 | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | stephen-ma proposed openstack/neutron: Router is not unscheduled when the last VM is deleted https://review.openstack.org/159296 | 14:48 |
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| matrohon | rkukura : hi? | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron: Fix missing spaces in strings split across lines. https://review.openstack.org/163859 | 14:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron: Remove dead code https://review.openstack.org/163586 | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Add a netns-cleanup functional test https://review.openstack.org/163860 | 15:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Fix netns-cleanup broken by ProcessMonitor refactor https://review.openstack.org/163401 | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Add a netns-cleanup functional test https://review.openstack.org/163860 | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Add a netns-cleanup functional test https://review.openstack.org/163860 | 15:04 |
| ajo | ... sorry for the noise... | 15:04 |
| trinaths1 | ajo: :) okay | 15:05 |
| ajo | trinaths1 :) | 15:06 |
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| ajo | ihrachyshka, amuller, marun ^ | 15:06 |
| ajo | let me know how it looks | 15:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Added Flag for default External Networks type in ML2 https://review.openstack.org/149546 | 15:12 |
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| mestery | marun HenryG: The experimental job passed for the functional job for the client, this is ready to merge now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162848/ | 15:12 |
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| mestery | marun HenryG: It's a straight move of hte existing tests into the client repo | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Adelina Tuvenie proposed openstack/neutron: OVS agent support on Hyper-V https://review.openstack.org/160596 | 15:14 |
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| rkukura | matrohon: hi | 15:18 |
| matrohon | rkukura : hi | 15:18 |
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| matrohon | rkukura : I left a comment on DVR tech debt bug | 15:19 |
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| rkukura | matrohon: OK, I’ll look | 15:19 |
| matrohon | rkukura : I just wanted to know if there is still a chance that a patch make it for k3 | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Implement Neutron IPv6 Prefix Delegation https://review.openstack.org/158697 | 15:20 |
| rkukura | matrohon: I’m hoping so. I made some progress last week, but haven’t been able to get back to it this week. | 15:20 |
| rkukura | matrohon: But plan to work on it today | 15:20 |
| matrohon | rkukura : ok, cool! | 15:20 |
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| matrohon | rkukura : this patch add tech debt to : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141114/ | 15:21 |
| matrohon | rkukura : but we move forward to have a chance to have a patch for k | 15:22 |
| ihrachyshka | mestery, hey | 15:22 |
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| matrohon | rkukura : BTW rossella_s proposed to rebind the port when get_device_details is received : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163178/ | 15:23 |
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| rkukura | matrohon: I thought it already did that if not already bound. | 15:23 |
| matrohon | rkukura : it address the case when the port is already bound, typically in Live-migration | 15:24 |
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| matrohon | rkukura : I think it's a good idea, this would avoid a nova patch | 15:26 |
| rkukura | matrohon: The get_device_details calling plugin.get_bound_port_context should result in rebinding if the host has changed. | 15:26 |
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| rkukura | matrohon: Nova updates the port’s binding:host_id on migration, right? | 15:26 |
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| matrohon | rkukura : hummm... this is not the case in our experiments... | 15:26 |
| rossella_s | rkukura: it doesn't bind it if the host change because the vif type is not VIF_TYPE_UNBOUND | 15:27 |
| matrohon | rkukura : yes, at least during Juno | 15:27 |
| rossella_s | rkukura but if the port update from nova is processed after the get_device_detail we have a problem | 15:27 |
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| rkukura | matrohon, rossella_s: Anything that changes the port’s host_id value should change invalidate the binding. | 15:28 |
| rossella_s | rkukura: I totally agree, that's why I proposed that the port binding should be updated if the host change, regardless of the port vif type | 15:29 |
| matrohon | rkukura, rossella_s : so you have to think about how get_device_details is legitimate to modify the host | 15:29 |
| rkukura | matrohon, rossella_s: BTW, my patch will be changing the way binding states (unbound vs. binding failed vs. bound) are represented in the DB, so if there is a case not covered, please let me know | 15:29 |
| rkukura | rossella_s: Am I wrong that the only way the host_id can change is through a port_update? | 15:29 |
| rossella_s | rkukura I didn't have the chance to review your patch, will look for it | 15:30 |
| rkukura | Just receiving an RPC from a different host should not change the host_id, IMHO. | 15:30 |
| rkukura | rossella_s: Its not posted yet | 15:30 |
| matrohon | rkukura : so you consider get_device_detail RPC msg should not be allowed to change the binding? | 15:31 |
| rkukura | matrohon: It can change the binding - i.e. cause a new binding attempt if the previous attempt failed. | 15:31 |
| rossella_s | rkukura: right now if a port comes up on an l2 agent, it sends a get_device_details and the port is bound to that agent | 15:31 |
| rkukura | matrohon: But nova should be doing a port_update to change the host_id before the port gets created on the new host during a migration, right? | 15:32 |
| rkukura | rossella_s: I really don’t think get_device_details should be changing the host_id. The REST call should be the only way to do that. | 15:32 |
| matrohon | rkukura : we can't be sure of that | 15:32 |
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| rossella_s | rkukura: there's no order guarantee, right? if the port update is processed after the messages sent by the l2 agent, we can't set the port state correctly | 15:33 |
| matrohon | rossella_s : +1 | 15:33 |
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| rkukura | matrohon: Are you saying nova might not update the host_id first, or just that the neutron process handling the RPC might have stale state? | 15:34 |
| matrohon | rkukura : last time I check yes... | 15:34 |
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| rossella_s | rkukura: I'd like to understand your point. If the get_device_details is allowed to set the host binding in case of a "new" port, why shouldn't it update the binding in case of a migration? | 15:34 |
| rkukura | matrohon: The port update is synchronous, so nova shouldn’t re-plug the VIF until after the update REST call has returned. | 15:35 |
| matrohon | rkukura : that's why I reported this bug, but it was while ago : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1274160 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1274160 in neutron "port_update from nova could potentially occurs after get_device_details/update_device_up" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Mathieu Rohon (mathieu-rohon) | 15:35 |
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| rkukura | matrohon: I hadn’t seen that. Is this really a nova bug? | 15:36 |
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| matrohon | rkukura : I first though about a nova bug but sdague removed it because this bug hasn't been seen, just a potential race to confirm | 15:37 |
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| rkukura | matrohon, rossella_s: I’ve considered the REST calls to be the only way to change normal “input” attributes like binding:host_id. | 15:38 |
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| rkukura | matrohon, rossella_s: I’m concerned if we allow the get_device_details RPC to update the host_id, we could potentially have race conditions between L2 agents on the two hosts during a migtration. The old host could possible to a get_device_details RPC for the port at about the same time as the new host, and either could win. | 15:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: Remove router binding with router-interface-delete https://review.openstack.org/163454 | 15:41 |
| rkukura | matrohon, rossella_s: I wish we could discuss these kinds of issues at the ML2 IRC meetings. | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Sandhya Dasu proposed openstack/neutron: Cisco UCS Manager ML2 Mechanism Driver https://review.openstack.org/155436 | 15:42 |
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| matrohon | rkukura, rossella_s : yep, but unfortunately I'm available for every ML2 meetings | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | pc_m: do you want to talk now or would you rather wait for carl_baldwin to be back and we all talk together? | 15:42 |
| pc_m | doesn't matter to me. I'm adding some items in the bug right now. | 15:42 |
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| matrohon | rossella_s : do you think the race rkukura mentioned could happen | 15:42 |
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| rossella_s | matrohon, rkukura I don't see how that race could happen. get_device_details is sent by the l2 agent when a new device is discovered. So the old l2 agent won't send it | 15:43 |
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| zilberstein | Good evening #openstack-neutron | 15:44 |
| HenryG | marun: ping | 15:44 |
| rossella_s | matrohon, rkukura the only possibility is a port going up and then down on the old host before being migrated...but not sure how likely it is | 15:44 |
| zilberstein | what interface_driver I should use in dhcp_agent.ini if I use ofagent,l2population with openvswitch ? | 15:44 |
| rkukura | rossella_s, matrohon: Couldn’t the old host’s agent just be coming up at the same time as the migration, or maybe the VM was migrated immediately after it was created? | 15:44 |
| rkukura | rossella_s, matrohon: Seems a migration might be triggered by a compute host being down, but it could recover during the migration. | 15:45 |
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| rkukura | rossella_s, matrohon: I think its safer for it to be nova’s responsibility to make sure the port_update is called when it decides to migrate the VM. | 15:46 |
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| matrohon | rkukura : the scenario where the migration is triggered by a host going down makes sense | 15:48 |
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| rkukura | rossella_s, matrohon: I do think get_device_details should check the host_id, and return an error if the agent making the call isn’t the current host. I think I saw a recent patch for this. | 15:49 |
| rossella_s | rkukura: you read my mind. That's what I was going to suggest | 15:49 |
| rossella_s | rkukura: I am working on that, maybe you've seen one of my patches | 15:49 |
| matrohon | rossella_s : do you have the link to this patch? | 15:50 |
| rkukura | rossella_s: I do try to look at them ;) | 15:50 |
| rossella_s | rossella_s, matrohon do we agree that the best would be to return an error if the host_id doesn't match so that we give the time to the neutron server to process the port update? | 15:50 |
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| HenryG | ajo: ping | 15:51 |
| ajo | hi HenryG | 15:51 |
| ajo | how're you doing? | 15:51 |
| HenryG | ajo: good thanks, how about you? | 15:51 |
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| ajo | HenryG, very well, playing a bit with IPv6 ;) all my home exposed via v6... I feel naked ;D | 15:52 |
| ajo | I will need to firewall a bit, I guess ;D | 15:52 |
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| mlavalle | pc_m: Plese read the comment I made here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147744/18/neutron/agent/l3/dvr_snat_ns.py. It is a little long. My conclusion, is that snat namepsaces were sometimes created implicitely prior to the refactoring and now we have made that evident after the refactoring | 15:52 |
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| matrohon | rkukura, rossella_s : I agree, this won't fix the potential race but I think it will fix this error : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1274160/comments/7 | 15:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1274160 in neutron "port_update from nova could potentially occurs after get_device_details/update_device_up" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Mathieu Rohon (mathieu-rohon) | 15:53 |
| mlavalle | pc_m: I need to relocate to the office, but I will ping you later in a bit after you have read that comment. is that ok? | 15:53 |
| HenryG | ajo: I am looking at https://review.openstack.org/152512 | 15:53 |
| pc_m | ok | 15:53 |
| ajo | HenryG, opening | 15:53 |
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| pc_m | mlavalle: will loook at it | 15:53 |
| matrohon | rkukura, rossella_s : If we don't modify the port status of course | 15:53 |
| ajo | HenryG, how does it look did you find anything strange? :) | 15:53 |
| HenryG | ajo: The fix is good. No problems there. | 15:53 |
| rossella_s | matrohon: there are several patches for the l2 agent, but I don't exactly check the host id, not sure if Bob meant the patch by somebody else... | 15:53 |
| mlavalle | pc_m: it is not excatly the problem you are dealing with, but I think it is all related | 15:53 |
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| ajo | HenryG: thanks for looking at it :) | 15:54 |
| rkukura | rossella_s: The patch I’m thinking of (or imagining) change get_device_details in neutron-server to check the host_id. | 15:54 |
| rossella_s | matrohon: if you are interested just check the patch owned by me...it's still WIP but I am trying to modify the way the ovs agent handles arrors | 15:54 |
| HenryG | ajo: I ended up with many nits on the tests. Nothing I want to block on, but I wonder if you want to have a chance to read them before I approve? | 15:54 |
| ajo | sure HenryG , makes sense | 15:55 |
| rossella_s | rkukura: I haven't seen it then...if you find it please share :) | 15:55 |
| ajo | may be I can sort them out tomorrow morning | 15:55 |
| rkukura | rossella_s, matrohon: Do we know for sure that nova may re-plug the port before the update_port has returned? | 15:55 |
| matrohon | rkukura : may be you're talking about my current proposal : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163178/4/neutron/plugins/ml2/rpc.py | 15:55 |
| matrohon | rkukura : I'll recheck | 15:55 |
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| rkukura | matrohon: that’s the one | 15:56 |
| ajo | HenryG, so feel free to publish the comments without approving, and I will fix :) | 15:56 |
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| rossella_s | rkukura, matrohon mistery solved :) ...shall we continue the discussion on the review directly? | 15:56 |
| matrohon | rkukura : but by the time I reported the bug, the race could be seen with a debugger that slows down nova | 15:56 |
| rkukura | rossella_s: makes sense, but feel free to ping me on IRC | 15:57 |
| HenryG | ajo: thanks. Also marun might have something to say, maybe. | 15:57 |
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| ajo | ack, marun ^ https://review.openstack.org/152512 | 15:58 |
| matrohon | rkukura : fine, I'll try to summarize this discussion on gerrit, and propose a patch that returns an error when the port is not bound to host submitted by get_device_details | 15:58 |
| marun | ajo: ack | 15:58 |
| rossella_s | matrohon, rkukura thanks for the nice discussion! | 15:58 |
| matrohon | rossella_s : thanks for your review! | 15:59 |
| rossella_s | matrohon you can't return an error right now, the l2 agent will resync everything | 15:59 |
| rossella_s | matrohon: my pleasure! | 15:59 |
| HenryG | ajo: comments posted | 15:59 |
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| rossella_s | matrohon: I mean right now the code in the l2 agent is dummy, in case of error it's going to resync. I am changing that...after the agent behaves better in case of error, you can modify get_device_details to return an error if the host id doesn't match | 16:00 |
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| matrohon | rossella_s : ok, so right now, returning an error will trigger a loop of RPC get_device_details call? | 16:01 |
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| rossella_s | matrohon right now, the error will trigger a resync in the OVS agent, which will send get_device_details again and if it gets another error...well loop | 16:03 |
| rossella_s | matrohon: it will probably loop till the port update is processed...that's very bad | 16:03 |
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| rossella_s | matrohon: if there are many devices, the resync is expensive | 16:04 |
| matrohon | rossella_s : ok I'd better to propose my patch on top of yours | 16:04 |
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| rossella_s | matrohon: if you are not in an hurry :) | 16:04 |
| ajo | thanks HenryG , I commented back, I will fix, but I disagree about two points, one in the iptables_firewall @staticmethod thing, and the other about duplicating set and list (line 1485 @ test), the 2nd one not very strong, but check if what I said makes sense. :) | 16:05 |
| matrohon | rossella_s : which one of your patch introduces error handling in l2 agent? | 16:05 |
| ajo | HenryG if you have a second, please check my comments, and thanks for the review, not all were nits ;) | 16:05 |
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| HenryG | ajo: I certainly did not expect agreement to all my opinions! Thanks for looking, I will check your comments. | 16:06 |
| rossella_s | matrohon: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157839 | 16:07 |
| ajo | :D HenryG :) | 16:07 |
| rossella_s | matrohon: I have to update it a little bit, anyway you get the general idea there | 16:07 |
| matrohon | rossella_s : ok thanks | 16:08 |
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| matrohon | rossella_s : my patch is mainly motivated by errors seen will running this patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141114/ | 16:09 |
| matrohon | rossella_s : we would love to have l2pop compatible with HA router in k, so we are more or less in a hurry :) | 16:10 |
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| rossella_s | matrohon: I understand, well you know that having dependencies doesn't speed up | 16:11 |
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| matrohon | rossella_s : of course, but there is another alternative proposed for 141114, so I'll move forward with dependencies | 16:13 |
| openstackgerrit | vishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Refactoring related to 'FWaaS insertion Model on Routers' https://review.openstack.org/161881 | 16:13 |
| rossella_s | matrohon just read your comment on that patch. I think 2 is a good option | 16:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zengfa Gao proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add Neutron subnetpool API https://review.openstack.org/159618 | 16:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-neutronclient: Copy functional tests from tempest cli https://review.openstack.org/162848 | 16:32 |
| enikanorov | salv-orlando: hi! so... how do you think, who's +A do we need? :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149261/ | 16:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-neutronclient: Remove unused AlreadyAttachedClient https://review.openstack.org/163419 | 16:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZongKai LI proposed openstack/neutron: fix check_ports_exist_on_l3agent in no subnet case https://review.openstack.org/159338 | 16:40 |
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| * zilberstein loses connectivity when neutron starts | 16:42 | |
| zilberstein | What to check ? | 16:42 |
| larsks | zilberstein: start with why your connectivity is gone...routing problem? Address got deleted? iptables blocking traffic? Also, you probably want to move this to #openstack; this channel is primarily for development questions. | 16:44 |
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| zilberstein | larsks, no, routering table hasnt changed in linux. What is strange is that when I stop neutron-ofagent, it works again | 16:45 |
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| zilberstein | and ovs-vsctl shows br-int and its only port eth0 that I added | 16:45 |
| zilberstein | as it should be | 16:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Sridar Kandaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Adds FWaaS service plugin for Cisco CSR1kv https://review.openstack.org/152282 | 16:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce External IPAM Interface https://review.openstack.org/134339 | 16:53 |
| carl_baldwin | mestery: ^ working around new pylint requirement. | 16:53 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, hey. up to a challenge? ;) | 17:19 |
| HenryG | ihrachyshka: not the oslo.log patch? ;) | 17:19 |
| ihrachyshka | ok, moving on... | 17:20 |
| ihrachyshka | :) | 17:20 |
| HenryG | ihrachyshka: hit me | 17:20 |
| ihrachyshka | well... yeah, the oslo.log: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159638/ | 17:20 |
| HenryG | ihrachyshka: Ouch! ;) | 17:20 |
| ihrachyshka | I will need two cores to get it in the queue before something breaks it (and that can be anything) | 17:21 |
| HenryG | ihrachyshka: sure, I will do it. I have been keeping track of it so it should not be too bad. | 17:21 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, even if you track patches like that, the number of files is just... unmanageable | 17:22 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, thanks a lot, I owe you | 17:22 |
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| ajo | HenryG, your list vs set comment makes sense, thanks for responding so fast ;) | 17:23 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: hi | 17:57 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: hi | 17:57 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Wondering if you had time to chat about the bug reported with DVR and namespace for VPN | 17:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | pc_m: Yes, what is the latest? | 17:59 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Well, in VPN, when creating a process manager for OpenSwan, it expects there to be a namespace for the router. | 18:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | Right. | 18:01 |
| pc_m | This call happens when VPN service is created, or when router added (I guess for case of router add taking longer than service create). | 18:01 |
| pc_m | In the past, this was always true, but is not, now for DVR. | 18:02 |
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| pc_m | Now, for the latter case, which could happen with just a router add and no service, it would not create the process. | 18:03 |
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| pc_m | However, it calls code as part of the "sync" that will try to delete the process for any processes where there is no VPN service. | 18:04 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: Just need 3-5 minutes to clean out a workspace to start looking at it. Bear with me. | 18:04 |
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| pc_m | OK | 18:04 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Let em know when you're ready, and I'll get all the links to the code for the issue. | 18:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | pc_m: ok, ready | 18:07 |
| * carl_baldwin reading back... | 18:07 | |
| pc_m | Here's the sequence that causes the issue.... | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Move internal port processing to router classes https://review.openstack.org/154513 | 18:08 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Router is created, and notify() calls this: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/blob/master/neutron_vpnaas/services/vpn/vpn_service.py#L57 | 18:08 |
| pc_m | It will add the router to the driver, and do a sync(). https://github.com/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/blob/master/neutron_vpnaas/services/vpn/device_drivers/ipsec.py#L772 | 18:09 |
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| pc_m | For the sync, nothing will happen for _sync_vpn_processes(), but it will try to get rid of processes without VPN. | 18:09 |
| pc_m | Note process is an object that manages the OpenSwan process. | 18:10 |
| pc_m | For some reason, that module first creates the process, if it doesn't exist: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/blob/master/neutron_vpnaas/services/vpn/device_drivers/ipsec.py#L795 | 18:10 |
| pc_m | And that's the issue, as there is no namespace. | 18:10 |
| pc_m | Now, there is a fix to that. Here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162840/8/neutron_vpnaas/services/vpn/device_drivers/ipsec.py | 18:11 |
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| pc_m | It is part of another fix, where I suggested this line be removed (couldn't see why it was there). It would avoid the problem | 18:11 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: However, the question is, would we have an issue with the namespace not being set, if a router is created and a VPN connection added immediately? | 18:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | pc_m: I’m following along, just trying to soak it in still | 18:13 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: So it creates the router entry, does a sync operation, and tries to create the process, so it can delete it...duh | 18:13 |
| pc_m | The fix out for review on another item, would prevent this issue too, IMHO. | 18:14 |
| pc_m | However, I'm concerned we could create a router and VN connection, and maybe not have the namespace in time, for a normal VPN create flow. | 18:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | pc_m: It doesn’t look right to “ensure_process” just to destroy the router. | 18:15 |
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| pc_m | exactly, so when this fix was out for review, I asked to have that pulled. No idea why it was there. | 18:15 |
| carl_baldwin | The normal VPN flow happens on “after_router_added”, right? | 18:15 |
| iwi | Hi there | 18:16 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Yes, you'd add the router, and then once added, the VPN service could be created and connection created. | 18:16 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Wondering if it is always guaranteed that the namespace will be there by then. | 18:16 |
| iwi | is it possible to use an external network as a normal tenant network (so for both - DHCP for VMs and Floating IPs) | 18:16 |
| iwi | ? | 18:16 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: Then the namespace will be there. | 18:16 |
| HenryG | ihrachyshka: done, now you need one more. | 18:17 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: If so, then I think the fix out will kill two birds with one stone. | 18:17 |
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| ihrachyshka | HenryG, thanks, let's see who hasn't hidden under a bench yet... | 18:17 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: Still speaking of this fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162840 ? | 18:18 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: yes | 18:18 |
| ihrachyshka | mestery, up to adventure?.. ;) I need someone brave to dive into oslo.log migration patch to push it in gate. | 18:19 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: It clears up some other issues with a recent refactoring that I had done, but changes this area too (as we need to delete the process, but not the router we created, when we delete a service). | 18:19 |
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| pc_m | SridharRamaswamy: I've got some questions for you too, once done here, if you're still around. | 18:20 |
| SridharRamaswamy | pc_m: sure | 18:21 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: Reviewing it now. | 18:21 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Thanks. So will the namespace be there shortly after the after_router_added() notify? | 18:21 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin, pc_m: I see you are weel underway in your discussion about the namespace issue. Don't want to get in the way. Please ping me if you think I might add something | 18:22 |
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| pc_m | mlavalle: yeah, sorry forgot to ping you too. If you can scroll up, you'll see we have a fix. Though I do have a question on when the namespace is ready. | 18:23 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: The namespace will be created for a new router before notifying. | 18:23 |
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| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Hmmm. Then wondering why there was no namespace. | 18:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Fix non-existent self.local_subnets in DvrRouter class https://review.openstack.org/157621 | 18:24 |
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| pc_m | SridharRamaswamy: For the Brocade VPN plugin I had some questions about out of tree code... | 18:26 |
| SridharRamaswamy | pc_m: sure, i replied after your discussion w/ armax | 18:26 |
| SridharRamaswamy | pc_m: I think you logged off by then | 18:26 |
| pc_m | SridharRamaswamy: (may have missed) . The code has an import of networking_brocade. | 18:26 |
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| pc_m | SridharRamaswamy: How does the package get installed, say for devstack or UT use? | 18:27 |
| SridharRamaswamy | pcm: We got that working by mocking the networking_brocade imports. See #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/blob/master/neutron_vpnaas/tests/unit/services/vpn/device_drivers/test_vyatta_ipsec.py | 18:27 |
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| pc_m | SridharRamaswamy: Ah. Makes sense. Then for devstack, do you have a devstack plugin to do the install? | 18:28 |
| SridharRamaswamy | pc_m: this is was standard suggestion for all the decomposed plugins - to get their UT working *without* doing the import | 18:28 |
| SridharRamaswamy | pc_m: No. Our CI scripts does add a separate entry point to invoke out vyatta-vpn-agent. But that happens only in our CI env | 18:30 |
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| pc_m | SridharRamaswamy: So for functional tests, you could create a devstack plugin to load the package, I guess. | 18:31 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: If I understood correctly, there was no namespace because it wasn’t a new router, it was a router being cleaned up. | 18:31 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Oh, do you mean in that test case they were cleaning up a router? | 18:32 |
| Swami | pcm: that might be true | 18:32 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Why would it call after_router_added (and not after/before_router_removed)? | 18:33 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: I thought that a different router was added which notified. Then a sync routers was called that was trying to destroy another router, not the one that was just added. | 18:34 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Ah, ok that would make sense. | 18:34 |
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| SridharRamaswamy | pc_m: Yes, we have devstack patches in the CI env. We can augment that if needed to get the functional tests going. | 18:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhang Hua proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Functional tests of ipsec strongswan vpnaas driver https://review.openstack.org/158560 | 18:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhang Hua proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: IPsec strongSwan driver implemention https://review.openstack.org/144391 | 18:36 |
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| pc_m | SridharRamaswamy: Thanks for the info. We may need to do the same in Cisco code. | 18:37 |
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| SridharRamaswamy | pc_m: sounds good | 18:38 |
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| Sukhdev | mestery: Ping | 18:39 |
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| Sukhdev | mestery: Can you please tag this for K3? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1429968 | 18:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1429968 in neutron "In Arista ML2 delete tenant if no resources associated with it" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Sukhdev Kapur (sukhdev-8) | 18:40 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Thanks for approving. What do we do about the bug filed? Have the submitter check and close, if fixed? | 18:40 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: Sounds like a good plan. | 18:40 |
| Swami | pc_m: what bug are you talking about here. | 18:41 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: I updated bug. | 18:41 |
| pc_m | Swami: 1431077 | 18:41 |
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| pc_m | Swami: Is that the one you filed? | 18:42 |
| Swami | pc_m: Yes this is the one that I filed. | 18:42 |
| Swami | I will check this with your patch and then update the LP. | 18:42 |
| pc_m | Swami: Thanks! | 18:42 |
| pc_m | Swami: I think it may resolve the issue. | 18:43 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: If you get a chance, look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163586/. Easy peasy review and removes dead code related to this namespace thing. | 18:44 |
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| carl_baldwin | pc_m: Done | 18:47 |
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| pc_m | SridharRamaswamy: Can you test the latest StrongSwan patch (61)? The previous one looked good, other than changes interfered with running connections. I think Zhang has a fix for that. I'm going to re-test as well. | 18:48 |
| pc_m | carl_baldwin: Thank you. Don't you wish they all were that easy? :) | 18:48 |
| carl_baldwin | pc_m: :) | 18:48 |
| sridhar_ram | pc_m: sure, will give it a spin | 18:49 |
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| pc_m | sridhar_ram: THanks. Looks like we're close to getting this in... | 18:49 |
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| enikanorov_ | mestery: hi, who could be a core to give +A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149261/ ? This has raised a lot of discussions, but i think we may want to have a fix for the issue and move on with enabling multiple api and rpc workers by default | 18:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Move internal port processing to router classes https://review.openstack.org/154513 | 18:56 |
| sridhar_ram | pc_m: i agree, but state transition from pending-create --> down --> active still bothers me. I'm going to check if that got fixed in the latest PS. | 19:00 |
| pc_m | sridhar_ram: Yeah, I mentioned that I prefer PENDING_CREATE - > ACTIVE, but it will take more complex logic to check that, because of the way StrongSwan reports status. | 19:03 |
| pc_m | sridhar_ram: I mentioned that I'd be OK with doing that as a bug fix later. | 19:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | pc_m: okay | 19:04 |
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| pc_m | sridhar_ram: it reports CONNECTING, when connecting, but for a period of time, it reports INSTALLED and CONNECTING, so need to check multiple status lines. | 19:05 |
| sridhar_ram | pc_m: I see | 19:05 |
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| pc_m | sridhar_ram: I'm wondering if openswan drops traffic on a config change (adding a second connection). I think it will. | 19:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Bowen proposed openstack/neutron: Fix missing spaces in strings split across lines. https://review.openstack.org/163859 | 19:25 |
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| YorikSar | otherwiseguy: Do you know if there's a consensus about whether we should enable daemon mode by default? | 19:35 |
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| otherwiseguy | YorikSar: A lot of people have asked that. I tend to be cautious about such things. I mean, technically even using rootwrap at all is non-default. | 19:36 |
| otherwiseguy | Since root_helper defaults to 'sudo'. | 19:37 |
| YorikSar | otherwiseguy: Is it? Oh... | 19:37 |
| otherwiseguy | But rootwrap daemon should be faster than sudo too... | 19:37 |
| YorikSar | otherwiseguy: Ok, then the question should be whether we want devstack to configure daemon mode by default. | 19:38 |
| YorikSar | otherwiseguy: Or we'll have to run 2 jobs: one for daemon mode, another for rootwrap case. | 19:38 |
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| otherwiseguy | YorikSar: If it was up to me, I'd say yes just from the perspective that 'rootwrap' code doesn't really change a lot and is unlikely to break, also even neutron will use rootwrap and rootwrap daemon both (because of long-running processes), so both will get exercised. | 19:39 |
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| otherwiseguy | Others may like the 'do both' approach, but I hate doubling effort for testing. | 19:40 |
| YorikSar | otherwiseguy: I guess this discussion will be held in devstack CR | 19:40 |
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| YorikSar | otherwiseguy: Yeah. Besides rootwrap is well-tested (including daemon mode). | 19:41 |
| otherwiseguy | YorikSar: so does 158805 look good now that the devstack patch tests are passing? | 19:42 |
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| YorikSar | otherwiseguy: Let's wait for another round... As I said it's very strange that lbaas counldn't start daemon while other services could. | 19:43 |
| YorikSar | (I mean dhcp and l3 agents) | 19:43 |
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| ihrachyshka | armax, hey. may I ask you to check oslo.log migration patch? It needs the 2nd +2: https://review.openstack.org/159638 (CI failures are expected and were communicated to 3party maintainers) | 20:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Smith proposed openstack/neutron: delay fip namespace cleanup/destroy https://review.openstack.org/151758 | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jerome Bertolino proposed openstack/neutron: Update Cisco decomposition URL https://review.openstack.org/163950 | 20:19 |
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| armax | ihrachyshka: question | 20:46 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, shoot | 20:47 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: do we know of the uptake of the change for the vendor repos? | 20:47 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: i.e. have people started moving away from common/log to oslo log, as we preemptively done for the aas repos? | 20:48 |
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| ihrachyshka | armax, some of them already did, like ryu or brocade. I expect others to follow once they actually notice breakage. | 20:48 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, the complecity of the fix is low - import changes. | 20:49 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: ok | 20:49 |
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| ihrachyshka | in very rear case - an import path change, or similar. but I would expect no vendor libs will really need even that | 20:49 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: let’s make sure we bring that up again during hte next irc meeting | 20:49 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: we need to evangelize that wiki link of yours relentelessy :) | 20:50 |
| ihrachyshka | ok. | 20:50 |
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| ihrachyshka | armax, I should have also reach out their 3party team meeting on Mon to communicate the issue. though I realized that late in Tue. | 20:50 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: it’s okay | 20:51 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: we’ll get more proactive next time | 20:51 |
| ihrachyshka | yeah, but next time I will try to be more vocal :) | 20:51 |
| HenryG | armax: ihrachyshka: working on a patch for ours | 20:52 |
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| armax | HenryG: great, | 20:52 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: let me go over the oslo patch and I’ll nudge it in | 20:52 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, thanks sir :) | 20:53 |
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| armax | ihrachyshka: is there a defined schedule as to when these changes are best brought in? | 20:53 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: or is it to whim of the oslo releases? | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | vishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Refactoring related to 'FWaaS insertion Model on Routers' https://review.openstack.org/161881 | 20:54 |
| HenryG | armax: you will need to upgrade your glasses prescription when you are done looking at the oslo.log patch :) | 20:54 |
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| ihrachyshka | armax, well, neutron team decides what's in each cycle, we do it on our own schedule. | 20:54 |
| armax | HenryG: I change a pair a day | 20:54 |
| dhellmann | armax: it's up to the projects, but we like to have adoption of new libs finished by the end of the cycle after we release the lib | 20:54 |
| dhellmann | armax: what ihrachyshka said :-) | 20:54 |
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| armax | ok, so technically we can line them all up and do them, for instance during the RC window? | 20:55 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, though I would vote for the more adoptions the better (except those we are scared e.g. due to position in the cycle) | 20:55 |
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| ihrachyshka | armax, I wouldn't do that that late in the cycle. there are glitches and bugs that may be introduced during adoption. | 20:56 |
| armax | but then things will be fairly quite and fixes would be done more easily? | 20:56 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, I would say, kilo-3 mile should be the last stone to consider any new merges. we also have dep freeze that is kinda related. | 20:57 |
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| ihrachyshka | because each adoption means a new dep | 20:57 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: ok, fair point | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/neutron: Expose Rest Api access to mtu attributes https://review.openstack.org/154921 | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/neutron: Add MTU selection to ML2 https://review.openstack.org/156318 | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/neutron: Advertise mtu over dhcp https://review.openstack.org/155874 | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/neutron: Add MTU selection & advertisement settings to Neutron config https://review.openstack.org/153733 | 20:57 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: so, still close to the end | 20:57 |
| ihrachyshka | + doing it at rc time is a bit uncomfortable for those who package stuff I guess (too many work at the end of the cycle) | 20:58 |
| dhellmann | armax, ihrachyshka: you wouldn't want to do them during the RC window because you shouldn't be adding dependencies at that point | 20:58 |
| dhellmann | the feature freeze date is also a requirements freeze date | 20:58 |
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| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, right, dep freeze | 20:58 |
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| claudiub | armax: hello | 20:59 |
| ihrachyshka | claudiub, hey man, I had a question to you! | 20:59 |
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| claudiub | ihrachyshka: hello. :) | 20:59 |
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| armax | dhellmann, ihrachyshka: makes sense, close to the third milestone it is | 21:00 |
| armax | claudiub: hello | 21:00 |
| ihrachyshka | claudiub, in RDO, we traditionally packaged hyperv agent in a separate package. but as I understand it, there is no real reason to ship it at all, since RDO is not meant to run on Windows :) so are we safe to kill the agent during build process? | 21:00 |
| dhellmann | armax: well, *by* the 3rd milestone. You could also do it earlier. :-) | 21:00 |
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| ihrachyshka | armax, I don't actually think it's easier to introduce patches like that near 3rd milestone. it's exactly the time you get lots of reviews and updates and fixes, because everyone rushes to push his stuff in the tree that cycle. | 21:01 |
| claudiub | armax: so, about the decomposition... well, you were saying that it should be moved to neutron/plugins/hyperv... well, I'd argue that it is more of an agent, since there is nothing else that can bind the neutron ports in hyper-v.. the reason it was in neutron/plugins (other than the fact that everyone was there) was because it had a HyperVNeutronPlugin, which we removed in favor of Ml2Plugin | 21:02 |
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| kevinbenton_ | rossella_s: hey | 21:02 |
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| claudiub | armax: plus, having some naming issues, which I cannot solve. :D | 21:02 |
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| armax | dhellmann, ihrachyshka: I was only thinking whether it would be beneficial if we were more specific about the times these changes are introduced | 21:03 |
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| armax | claudiub: I am not sure I follow | 21:03 |
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| claudiub | ihrachyshka: yeah, the hyper-v agent only runs on windows and has windows specific packages that have nothing to do with linux (wmi, pywin32, win32com) | 21:03 |
| armax | claudiub: let’s take the discussion on the review page itself | 21:03 |
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| claudiub | ihrachyshka: just one thing though | 21:04 |
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| claudiub | ihrachyshka: if there are RDO users that will use Hyper-V nodes, they will probably use Ml2Plugin to bind them, with hyperv mechanism.. for that to work, networking_hyperv package will be needed | 21:04 |
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| claudiub | ihrachyshka: since the mech driver will be imported from there | 21:05 |
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| claudiub | ihrachyshka: other than that, nothing else is needed. :) | 21:05 |
| claudiub | armax: Ok. | 21:05 |
| armax | claudiub: review # again? | 21:05 |
| armax | :) | 21:05 |
| claudiub | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153259/ | 21:05 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, I agree I should be more specific about when patches are to be published for review and expected to be merged | 21:06 |
| ihrachyshka | claudiub, right. we don't kill ml2 driver. so probably we'll kill agent, but keep the openstack-neutron-hyperv package to pull in the needed dependency (if we get to packaging it) | 21:06 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: yeah, maybe we can announce when they are about to be introduced so that we can set expectations | 21:06 |
| armax | ihrachyshka: not it’s a small thing really | 21:07 |
| ihrachyshka | armax, I announced expected adoptions this cycle, but milestone wise, not specific dates. I'll consider being more specific, sounds like a good thing for everyone | 21:07 |
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| armax | ihrachyshka: ok, I am pretty sure you did and I did not pay attention ;) | 21:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Move external port processing to router classes https://review.openstack.org/158495 | 21:13 |
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| armax | claudiub: ping | 21:15 |
| claudiub | armax: sorry, was posting on the review. :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153259/ | 21:16 |
| claudiub | i hope I explained myself a little bit better. :) | 21:17 |
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| armax | claudiub: ok | 21:17 |
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| claudiub | armax: PS: forgot to mention, the hyper-v agent is an L2 agent. :) | 21:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Timothy Swanson proposed openstack/neutron: Add MTU selection & advertisement settings to Neutron config https://review.openstack.org/153733 | 21:19 |
| armax | claudiub: ok I still don’t understand your argument, I’ll try to be more specific on the review as to what I mean | 21:19 |
| claudiub | armax: I understand what you mean. :) | 21:20 |
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| claudiub | armax: but honestly, neutron.plugins.hyperv.agent.agent.HyperVNeutronAgent is such an ugly name... :D | 21:20 |
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| claudiub | armax: while neutron.agent.hyperv.HyperVNeutronAgent would be much better... | 21:21 |
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| armax | claudiub: I am afraid your argument doens’t fly | 21:22 |
| armax | claudiub: we’re not writing poems or novels | 21:22 |
| armax | claudiub: it’s a place for a class is not appropriate, I don’t think we should be conditionated by the fully qualified name | 21:23 |
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| tim_o | is mestery or emagma here? | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | armax: so won't you take my patch for refactoring code in alternate rhyme? | 21:28 |
| armax | salv-orlando: um probably not | 21:28 |
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| matrohon | armax, dougwig : hi | 21:29 |
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| tim_o | just trying to get ahold of someone to look at the CI log file | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | armax: what about refactoring methods into sonnets? | 21:30 |
| armax | salv-orlando: all I can accept is a limerick | 21:30 |
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| matrohon | armax, dougwig : as you validated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148318/, could you please have an eye on : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163478/ ? | 21:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abishek Subramanian proposed openstack/neutron: Support IPv6 Router https://review.openstack.org/156283 | 21:32 |
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| dougwig | matrohon: commented | 21:34 |
| matrohon | dougwig : thanks | 21:34 |
| matrohon | douwig : I was betting that somebody would ask for UT :) | 21:35 |
| matrohon | dougwig ^ | 21:36 |
| dougwig | good bet. :) | 21:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Abishek Subramanian proposed openstack/neutron: Support IPv6 Router https://review.openstack.org/156283 | 21:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Bak proposed openstack/neutron: Break calls to get_devices_details_list into subsets https://review.openstack.org/163594 | 21:38 |
| matrohon | dougwig : however do you consider that extending the client the way I described in the bug report is the good way? personally, I find it very useful! | 21:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abishek Subramanian proposed openstack/neutron: Support IPv6 Router https://review.openstack.org/156283 | 21:39 |
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| dougwig | matrohon: seemed reasonable to me | 21:39 |
| matrohon | dougwig : fine I'll submit UT asap, thanks | 21:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Juergen Brendel proposed openstack/neutron: ARP spoofing patch: Low level ebtables integration https://review.openstack.org/141130 | 21:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Juergen Brendel proposed openstack/neutron: ARP spoofing patch: Low level ebtables integration https://review.openstack.org/141130 | 21:43 |
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| Sukhdev | mestery: are you there? | 21:45 |
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| armax | HenryG: ping | 21:51 |
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| dougwig | salv-orlando: i want to see a gerrit review of sonnets. | 21:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Update contribute.rst with Big Switch decomp https://review.openstack.org/163996 | 22:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/neutron: Hyper-V Agent decomposition https://review.openstack.org/153259 | 22:11 |
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| salv-orlando | dougwig: I made an attempt a while ago.... not really a sonnet though: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69579/1//COMMIT_MSG | 22:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Raut proposed openstack/neutron: Cisco Nexus1000V ML2 Mechanism Driver https://review.openstack.org/157243 | 22:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Update contribute.rst with Big Switch decomp https://review.openstack.org/163996 | 22:15 |
| claudiub | armax: uploaded a new patchset | 22:15 |
| dougwig | salv-orlando: ha, love it. | 22:15 |
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| amuller | armax: And you say I have too much time... | 22:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nachi Ueno proposed openstack/neutron: OpenContrail plugin code split https://review.openstack.org/163218 | 22:18 |
| apuimedo | amuller: no weekend for you? | 22:18 |
| amuller | apuimedo: It's 6:20pm here right now :) | 22:19 |
| apuimedo | ah yes... I keep forgetting that you are in the other side | 22:19 |
| apuimedo | so you do monday-friday now? | 22:19 |
| amuller | yeah | 22:20 |
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| amuller | still kind of confused when I see calendars starting on a Monday | 22:20 |
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| apuimedo | heh, for me it's the other way around, a lot of software starting the week no Sunday | 22:21 |
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| amuller | apuimedo: How's it going in Barcelona? | 22:22 |
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| apuimedo | amuller: going there too much for my taste | 22:22 |
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| apuimedo | I enjoy more working from my town | 22:22 |
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| amuller | apuimedo: Where's that? | 22:24 |
| apuimedo | 1h commuting by bus | 22:25 |
| apuimedo | Olesa de Montserrat | 22:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove dead code https://review.openstack.org/163586 | 22:28 |
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| armax | amuller: what did I do that doesn’t please you? | 22:28 |
| amuller | armax: You claim I have too much free time, your team mate is writing sonnets in commit messages :) | 22:29 |
| armax | amuller: true, I shouldn’t single you out like I did | 22:29 |
| amuller | heh, fair enough | 22:29 |
| armax | amuller: but I blame salv-orlando all the time too | 22:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | pritesh proposed openstack/neutron: Adding VLAN Transparency support for ML2 along with REST API changes https://review.openstack.org/158420 | 22:40 |
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| salv-orlando | amuller: what's your job title? | 22:41 |
| amuller | code monkey probably | 22:41 |
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| amuller | what's yours? | 22:41 |
| salv-orlando | that does not entitle to you to waste time. | 22:41 |
| salv-orlando | check it out for yourself: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/taturiello | 22:41 |
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| amuller | salv-orlando: Yeah definitely going to do something about my title next time I go to print cards | 22:42 |
| amuller | Well played | 22:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce RPC tests https://review.openstack.org/162811 | 22:53 |
| amuller | armax: ^ | 22:53 |
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| amuller | Changed to addCleanup and made some other simplifications | 22:53 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: here is the easy change from our discussion yesterday https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163672/ | 22:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shiv Haris proposed openstack/neutron: Brocade vendor code decomposition from neutron repo. https://review.openstack.org/152383 | 23:03 |
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| HenryG | armax: pong | 23:13 |
| armax | HenryG: yo | 23:13 |
| armax | HenryG: line https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/setup.cfg#L91 | 23:14 |
| armax | HenryG: not sure if we should have entry points to external code like this | 23:15 |
| armax | HenryG: what do you reckon? | 23:15 |
| HenryG | armax: I see, yes, there should be a shim in tree | 23:15 |
| armax | or no entry point at all | 23:16 |
| armax | that could be added to the stackforge repo | 23:16 |
| HenryG | armax: True. I can poke the owners to do one or the other. | 23:16 |
| shivharis | armax: hi, need to clarify something. waiting for you to get free from the other conversation ... | 23:16 |
| armax | shivharis: shoot | 23:16 |
| shivharis | armax: refering to your comment in the patch-set, the 2 products are different may have different needs for invokation | 23:17 |
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| shivharis | one depends on ml2 other does not | 23:18 |
| armax | shivharis: that table is not the place to document vendor specific technologies | 23:18 |
| armax | shivharis: I appreciate the differrence | 23:18 |
| armax | shivharis: but we don’t need to capture those there | 23:18 |
| armax | shivharis: imagine if all plugins start doing the same | 23:18 |
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| armax | HenryG’s employer especially | 23:18 |
| armax | they have tons of different flavors | 23:18 |
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| armax | shivharis: can you imagine if we start documenting those there? The table is going to bloat out of proportion | 23:19 |
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| armax | shivharis: we should simply capture the flavor of plugin/driver being available in the repo | 23:20 |
| armax | so that we know what to look for…as for the specific, user documentation and other resources are more appropriate tools to drive a user to know what options are available from a Brocade OpenStack solution | 23:21 |
| shivharis | i am at a loss, need clarification: should the other patch-set update the vyatta column? | 23:21 |
| armax | shivharis: where? | 23:22 |
| shivharis | or should this distinction not be there at all? | 23:22 |
| armax | you mean change 15906? | 23:22 |
| armax | sorry 159056? | 23:22 |
| shivharis | there are 2 product and 2 service plugins | 23:22 |
| armax | I get it | 23:22 |
| shivharis | yes 159056 | 23:22 |
| armax | all I am saying, wrt that table | 23:22 |
| armax | we simply do not need to care | 23:23 |
| shivharis | ok, i'll remove the distinction | 23:23 |
| armax | if you want to specify the various flavors of l3 plugins Brocade has | 23:23 |
| armax | it’s best to put taht in the README | 23:23 |
| armax | all we need to know from that table is that the L3 code that was once in the tree, is now avaialable out of tree | 23:24 |
| armax | it’s that simple | 23:24 |
| shivharis | sounds like a plan. will send update shortly. We will mainting this in the stackforge README.dm | 23:24 |
| shivharis | s/dm/md/ | 23:24 |
| armax | I think that’s best, thank you | 23:24 |
| armax | shivharis: bear in mind the other comment on the entry point | 23:24 |
| armax | if you plan on not having it, for consistency we’d want to remove the one from review 159056 | 23:25 |
| armax | so perhaps sync up with your colleague to get that sorted | 23:25 |
| shivharis | that worries me | 23:25 |
| shivharis | they may have a different requirement for invokation.. we depend on ml2 they do not | 23:25 |
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| armax | shivharis: do you understand what entry points are? | 23:27 |
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| armax | shivharis: I am not sure I fully grasp the implications of your statement | 23:28 |
| shivharis | armax: yes | 23:28 |
| armax | ok, so maybe I don't | 23:28 |
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| armax | what has the invocation have to do with anything? | 23:28 |
| shivharis | i am using that term instead of entry point | 23:29 |
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| armax | shivharis: ok, leave it as you wish | 23:29 |
| armax | we’ll sort it out on the other patch | 23:30 |
| shivharis | armax: ok | 23:31 |
| sripriya | armax:hi | 23:31 |
| armax | as much as I am trying to explain myself | 23:31 |
| armax | shivharis: it seems like I am unable to get my message across | 23:32 |
| armax | sripriya: hi | 23:32 |
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| sripriya | we are just following the published guidelines that was referred in 159056 | 23:32 |
| shivharis | ok, we have both plugins represented, shivharis and sripriya | 23:32 |
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| armax | sripriya, shivharis: yes, however I see two different approaches for the same vendor; albeit they are both acceptable IMO | 23:33 |
| armax | i’d rather see one or the other in the context of the same vendor | 23:33 |
| armax | now, shivharis’s l3 plugin is removed altogether, sripriya’s l3 plugin has a shim | 23:33 |
| armax | to me this is confusing | 23:34 |
| armax | as in the former case, obviosuly there’s no need of the entry point, in the latter there is | 23:34 |
| armax | you with me? | 23:35 |
| shivharis | armax: i appreciate your point but the implementation/deployments are dissimilar | 23:35 |
| sripriya | armax: vyatta only has a new L3 plugin so we are doing a shim based on the guidelines | 23:35 |
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| armax | shivharis: how so? | 23:36 |
| shivharis | armax: whereas the vdx plugin has an ml2 component and an l3 plugin as well | 23:36 |
| armax | shivharis: an l3 service plugin is an l3 service plugin | 23:36 |
| armax | shivharis: ok, fine, keep it inconsistent | 23:36 |
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| shivharis | correct, however devstack and other apps creating neutron.conf use a mechanism for this specific purpose | 23:37 |
| armax | shivharis: if it was me, I wouldn’t do it in two separate ways, but I can’t force you | 23:37 |
| armax | shivharis: be warned that if you came later and want to add the entry point, you’re sure gonna get shot down :) | 23:37 |
| * armax kids | 23:38 | |
| shivharis | armax: :-), that exactly why I like your approach | 23:38 |
| armax | shivharis: I think you’ll change your mind when I slap a -2 on your patches | 23:38 |
| sripriya | armax: just an FYI, we have few more new Brocade L3 plugins that are following vyatta approach: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161489/7/setup.cfg | 23:39 |
| shivharis | armax: you really want this changed? | 23:39 |
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| armax | shivharis, sripriya the more the merrier, that makes me question why shivharis’ approach is an outlier | 23:40 |
| armax | anyhow my energy in discussing this is ran out | 23:40 |
| armax | thanks for listening for now :) | 23:40 |
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| shivharis | armax: what do you want me to do? | 23:41 |
| armax | my suggestion would be to sort yourselves out so that the brocade’s contributions are cleaner | 23:41 |
| armax | at this point, I am happy to let this go | 23:41 |
| armax | I need to drink a gallon of water after all this talking :) | 23:42 |
| shivharis | ok | 23:42 |
| shivharis | i will let this stand, in the background think about it | 23:43 |
| shivharis | however, i would also want to chat with you why i am using this approach | 23:43 |
| shivharis | (at a later time) | 23:43 |
| armax | shivharis: ok | 23:44 |
| armax | sounds fair | 23:44 |
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| shivharis | fair, thanks | 23:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Shiv Haris proposed openstack/neutron: Brocade vendor code decomposition from neutron repo. https://review.openstack.org/152383 | 23:47 |
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