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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Addressg TODO related to Security Groups RPC API's classes https://review.openstack.org/174168 | 00:43 |
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watanabe_isao | salv-orl_: Good morinig sir. | 00:43 |
mestery_ | kevinbenton: Ack | 00:44 |
watanabe_isao | salv-orl_: There is a _ behind your name ... I will just state my question, please answer me if you see it and have time to answer it. | 00:45 |
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watanabe_isao | salv-orl_: It is about bug/1443798, in comment #14. My English is not good enough to understand your sentence:"The resulting patch will still be very small.". Could you please explain it for me in another way? | 00:47 |
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watanabe_isao | <(@.@)> | 00:48 |
GLaupre | I want to make a prove of concept for project. Can some one help me understanding where is the limit of the minimum requirement for the ML2 plugin considering one mechanism driver? I want to use a NIC with possiblity of offloading some work considering the VLAN tag tagging for example? | 00:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Drop the ovs_lib compat layer as per TODO note https://review.openstack.org/174179 | 01:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Drop the ovs_lib compat layer as per TODO note https://review.openstack.org/174179 | 01:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Stop running L3 functional tests with both OVSDB interfaces https://review.openstack.org/168513 | 01:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: IPv6 SLAAC subnet create should update ports on net https://review.openstack.org/172092 | 03:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Router is not unscheduled when the last port is deleted https://review.openstack.org/159296 | 04:10 |
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openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: ovs_lib: Fix a race between get_port_tag_dict and port removal https://review.openstack.org/174203 | 04:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Sentinel patch to compare DVR single vs multi node CI stability https://review.openstack.org/174003 | 05:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Neo proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Fix strongswan driver to support rhel https://review.openstack.org/174205 | 05:28 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/172628 | 06:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Reduce prefix and suffix length in ipsets https://review.openstack.org/174220 | 06:34 |
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ajo | ping kevinbenton , up ? | 06:36 |
ajo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173753/ I can update it if you want | 06:36 |
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ajo | to add my follow-up, and fix the unit tests from security groups rpc. | 06:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Shigeki Obuchi proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add REJECT rule on Neutron FWaaS https://review.openstack.org/148424 | 06:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Neo proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Fix strongswan driver to support rhel https://review.openstack.org/174205 | 06:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Aman Kumar proposed openstack/neutron: br-tun lost ports/flows if openvswitch restart https://review.openstack.org/159775 | 06:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Shigeki Obuchi proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add REJECT into action rule of FWaaS. https://review.openstack.org/149535 | 07:17 |
openstackgerrit | watanabe isao proposed openstack/neutron: Restrict subnet create/update to avoid DHCP resync https://review.openstack.org/174228 | 07:17 |
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kevinbenton | ajo: ping | 07:24 |
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ajo | kevinbenton pong, I'll be back in 20m | 07:25 |
ajo | feel free to leave me any homework | 07:25 |
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ajo | I need to run, brb | 07:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Set IPset hash type to 'net' instead of 'ip' https://review.openstack.org/173753 | 07:37 |
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ajo | kevinbenton: back | 07:37 |
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ajo | sorry, at this time of day I have to run and put kids to kindergarten | 07:38 |
openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Reduce prefix and suffix length in ipsets https://review.openstack.org/174220 | 07:39 |
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ajo | yes kevinbenton , I totally agree about the embedded iptables checks | 07:40 |
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kevinbenton | ajo: no problem | 07:43 |
kevinbenton | ajo: i don't think worrying about collisions is a big deal here :) | 07:43 |
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ajo | kevinbenton, I did the numbers once for the original implementation, but we're cutting two more digits | 07:44 |
kevinbenton | 16^17 | 07:44 |
kevinbenton | whoops | 07:44 |
kevinbenton | 17^16 | 07:44 |
ajo | for the current trim? | 07:44 |
ajo | why 17? :) | 07:44 |
ajo | I'm the kind of guy how disables UUID comparison for ZFS deduplication... ;) | 07:45 |
ajo | how->who | 07:45 |
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kevinbenton | ajo: here is a set NETIPv45d5e4955-d64c-40af-8 | 07:46 |
kevinbenton | ajo: 45d5e4955-d64c-40af-8 | 07:47 |
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kevinbenton | less the dashes | 07:47 |
ajo | the dashes are included | 07:47 |
ajo | ahh | 07:47 |
ajo | sorry | 07:47 |
ajo | :) | 07:47 |
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ajo | 4^18 | 07:47 |
kevinbenton | that 4 shouldn't be on there | 07:47 |
ajo | 4^17 | 07:47 |
kevinbenton | where are you getting 4 though? | 07:48 |
ajo | each digit is 4 bits | 07:48 |
ajo | as it's hex | 07:48 |
kevinbenton | they are hex chars, each can have a possible 16 values | 07:48 |
ajo | ... | 07:48 |
kevinbenton | ajo: ok, if you want to calculate it that way | 07:48 |
ajo | nah XDD | 07:48 |
ajo | you're right XD | 07:49 |
ajo | hmmm | 07:49 |
ajo | 16 possible values ^ 17 digits | 07:49 |
openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/neutron-specs: fwaas rules directions https://review.openstack.org/171340 | 07:49 |
ajo | that's p= 3.3881317890172014e-21 vs p=7.62939453125e-23 with the follow up patch | 07:49 |
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kevinbenton | yeah, or the way you were going is 4 bits * 17 slots to make 68 bits | 07:50 |
ajo | since we're renaming the set's I'd do it for kilo, it's a gain forever ;), one less call from an customer in trouble... | 07:50 |
ajo | p's are calculated for only 2 ipsets :) | 07:51 |
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ajo | kevinbenton, I could be a bit nitpick, but I'd sleep better if p was 0 | 07:52 |
ajo | everywhere in neutron | 07:52 |
kevinbenton | ajo: that can't be the case, UUIDs aren't guarunteed to be unique :) | 07:53 |
ajo | kevinbenton, but don't we check at database insertion? | 07:54 |
ajo | I guess that would fail, preventing any later hidden issues | 07:54 |
ajo | I hope all uuid fields are set to be unique ;) | 07:54 |
ajo | otherwise... less sleep for me ;) | 07:55 |
ajo | I never win a lottery, but it could be I never play ;) | 07:55 |
kevinbenton | you'd have a better chance of winning the lottery | 07:56 |
kevinbenton | than this colliding | 07:56 |
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kevinbenton | with interface names we only have 9 hex chars i believe | 07:57 |
kevinbenton | if you want to lose sleep over something... | 07:58 |
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kevinbenton | birthday attack for this 68 bits would indicate that after 17 billion sets we would have a 50% chance of collision | 08:00 |
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ajo | kevinbenton you almost convincend me, but my patch will hurt? :) | 08:01 |
kevinbenton | well do you want it into Kilo as well? | 08:02 |
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ajo | kevinbenton, it's either in kilo, or I'd rather prefer no making more ipset naming changes across versions | 08:03 |
ajo | that's my point | 08:03 |
ajo | mainly | 08:03 |
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ajo | otherwise we'd be leaving ipset leftovers on every upgrade | 08:03 |
kevinbenton | ajo: well i want to merge Brian's patch and then my patch to handle clearing a set with different params | 08:04 |
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kevinbenton | ajo: and switch back to the old naming scheme in the process | 08:04 |
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ajo | kevinbenton, ahaaa | 08:04 |
ajo | ok, if that's the plan, I like it | 08:05 |
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ajo | but I guess, that's for L | 08:05 |
ajo | not for K | 08:05 |
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kevinbenton | ajo: yeah, because the one i had was too scary this late | 08:06 |
ajo | yep | 08:06 |
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ajo | it's a good thing and will save some trouble in the future :) | 08:06 |
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ajo | kevinbenton, about RBAC | 08:07 |
ajo | kevinbenton it came up in the last QoS "pre-meeting" of yesterday | 08:07 |
kevinbenton | ajo: yeah, amuller mentioned it to me earlier today | 08:07 |
ajo | and we thought it could be interesting to redefine RBAC to be something a bit wider, | 08:07 |
ajo | also controlling access over QoS profiles to tenants | 08:08 |
kevinbenton | ajo: that's why it got rejected in the first place :) | 08:08 |
ajo | may be it's also useful to other resources | 08:08 |
ajo | :) | 08:08 |
ajo | ack | 08:08 |
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ajo | kevinbenton, so you were proposed to make it more generic? | 08:08 |
kevinbenton | ajo: but i am going to try to make it generic enough to extend to other resources easily | 08:08 |
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ajo | very nice, we'll make good use of it | 08:08 |
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ajo | kevinbenton: I'll subscribe the spec, but feel free to ping me via IRC if there are updates | 08:09 |
kevinbenton | ajo: ack | 08:09 |
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salv-orl_ | ajo, kevinbenton: let's validate rbac on something which is already "a thing" - ie: the network | 08:18 |
salv-orl_ | and then we apply it to QoS. Otherwise you will just be adding a dependency to the QoS work | 08:19 |
ajo | salv-orl_, ack, makes sense | 08:19 |
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ajo | salv-orl_, we can do it for "M" and have a basic QoS for "L" | 08:19 |
* ajo feels lucky ;) | 08:19 | |
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* ajo means... he's feeling positive about getting a QoS merged for "M" | 08:20 | |
ajo | ... | 08:21 |
ajo | KL | 08:21 |
* ajo self destroys | 08:21 | |
* ajo means... he's feeling positive about getting a QoS merged for "L" | 08:21 | |
ajo | XDD | 08:21 |
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ajo | kevinbenton: 1-e^-(400000000000000000000/(2*2^(68))) = 0.4921 | 09:00 |
ajo | you meed more than 17billion for p=0.5 if I calculated wrong | 09:00 |
ajo | if I calculated right... | 09:01 |
ajo | it seems I'm not writing anything right today :) | 09:01 |
ajo | kevinbenton: 1-e^-(1670000000000000000000000/(2*2^(68+3*4))) with 3 more digits | 09:04 |
ajo | we just make it still more improbable ... | 09:04 |
ajo | anyway, I agree both chances are remote | 09:05 |
salv-orl_ | ajo: and that would be 17 billion ipsets for 50% chance of conflicts | 09:06 |
ajo | salv-orl_, yes, but that's with my follow up patch :) | 09:06 |
salv-orl_ | ajo: as without? it like 1 billion? | 09:06 |
ajo | . 400000000000000000000 without | 09:07 |
ajo | 1670000000000000000000000 with | 09:07 |
ajo | ahh.. damn alignment :) | 09:08 |
ajo | my font is not fixed size | 09:08 |
salv-orl_ | wow 400 more. great. but what's the number of ipsets for a realistic probability of user distruption? for instance 0.1%? | 09:08 |
salv-orl_ | ajo: come on. do your coming out. | 09:08 |
salv-orl_ | you are using comic sans, aren't you? | 09:09 |
ajo | :-) | 09:09 |
ajo | yeah, those calculations are for a 50% chance of collision based on the sg_id | 09:09 |
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ajo | what do you mean exactly with 0.1% ? | 09:09 |
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ajo | salv-orl_ ^ | 09:10 |
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ajo | with that amount of security groups the database is long dead before... | 09:10 |
salv-orl_ | ajo: preamble. this is just coffee-cup chat. Indeed I don't believe it has a huge relevance for the stability of the software | 09:10 |
salv-orl_ | however 50% means things are tottaly screwed up | 09:10 |
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salv-orl_ | so the number of tolerable ipsets for getting a conflict should be found for a small probability of conflict | 09:11 |
ajo | let me calc, 1 sec | 09:11 |
salv-orl_ | 0.1% for instance means one customer having a clash out of 1,000 | 09:11 |
salv-orl_ | and for most openstack companies 1,000 customers is a wild dream ;))))) | 09:11 |
salv-orl_ | oh sorry this is open source. we don't say customers, but users | 09:11 |
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ajo | salv-orl_, :) customers, users... aren't they the same? :) they can come an fill a bug | 09:13 |
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openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Add callback prior to deleting a subnet https://review.openstack.org/174268 | 09:13 |
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ajo | so, for a 0.1% : http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=0.001%3D1-e%5E-%28x%2F%282*2%5E%2868%2B3*4%29%29%29 | 09:14 |
ajo | and http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=0.001%3D1-e%5E-%28x%2F%282*2%5E%2868%29%29%29 | 09:14 |
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enikanorov_ | salv-orl_: why are you so short today? where's ando? | 09:14 |
ajo | 590591155176472576 vs | 09:14 |
salv-orl_ | wolphramalpha? I still have the casio calculator I used in high school on my desk | 09:14 |
openstackgerrit | Ankit Agrawal proposed openstack/neutron: Remove use of contextlib.nested https://review.openstack.org/167677 | 09:15 |
salv-orl_ | ando is off today | 09:15 |
ajo | 2419061371602831671296 | 09:15 |
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ajo | salv-orl_, I have a TI-89, but it's out of batteries :) | 09:15 |
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ajo | ok | 09:15 |
ajo | too many security groups in any case | 09:15 |
enikanorov_ | anyway, salv-orl_ maybe you know, why we don't have a dependency in requirements.txt for python ovs bindings? | 09:16 |
enikanorov_ | needed for direct access to ovsdb | 09:16 |
ajo | 590591155176472576 / 1000 = 590591155176472 security groups per "user" to get a 0.1% chance of collision | 09:16 |
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salv-orl_ | ok ajo... do you agree we're having a bit of a pointless discussion then ? | 09:17 |
ajo | considering good RNGs, of course :) | 09:17 |
ajo | salv-orl_, yes, I agree :) | 09:17 |
ajo | salv-orl_, thanks for pushing me a bit into perspective | 09:17 |
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ajo | enikanorov_ which dependency is missing? | 09:23 |
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salv-orl_ | ajo: still, it's not like I would reject your patch... it's just that makes an unlikely threat even more unlikely | 09:27 |
ajo | of course salv-orl_ , It makes the chances more unlikely, but not impossible | 09:27 |
enikanorov_ | ajo: from ovs.db import idl | 09:27 |
enikanorov_ | ovs.db | 09:27 |
ajo | enikanorov_, I will ask terry wilson later, may be he always had it installed into his system?, | 09:28 |
ajo | enikanorov_: I believe I tried ovs.db direct connection once, and I don't remember installing any dependency manually | 09:28 |
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gsagie | einkanorov : there is no dependency because there is no pip package for it yet, it has to be installed otherwise | 09:37 |
gsagie | einkanorov: Terry wilson is working on that already in the OVS upstream | 09:38 |
gsagie | There is a patch to the gate to install it for the tests, i can send you the location if you need | 09:38 |
gsagie | enikanorov_ , ajo : ^^ | 09:38 |
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ajo | ahhh, ok :) | 09:39 |
ajo | gsagie thanks for clarification | 09:39 |
enikanorov_ | gsagie: good to know | 09:39 |
enikanorov_ | gsagie: i've seen the code on github | 09:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/172628 | 10:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Neo proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Fix strongswan driver to support rhel https://review.openstack.org/174205 | 10:29 |
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gsagie | Hello all, any common code to start a class task after X seconds? | 10:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Gal Sagie proposed openstack/neutron: OVS_LIB API addition - change bridge controller connection-mode https://review.openstack.org/167913 | 11:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Li Ma proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Implement external physical bridge mapping in linuxbridge https://review.openstack.org/173683 | 11:13 |
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openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Implement Neutron IPv6 Prefix Delegation https://review.openstack.org/158697 | 11:17 |
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ajo_ | sc68cal: do you know if the blueprint can be renamed: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/quantum-qos-api | 11:56 |
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ajo_ | it's a bit rusty | 11:56 |
ajo_ | (quantum-) ;) | 11:56 |
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ihrachyshka | ajo, owner definitely can do it | 11:57 |
ajo | :-) thank ihrachyshka I was unsure | 11:58 |
ihrachyshka | ajo, you click Change details, and then edit name | 11:59 |
ajo | ok, but only the owner, right?, | 11:59 |
ajo | we need to wait for sc68cal then | 11:59 |
ajo | :) | 11:59 |
ihrachyshka | I guess yes, owner/assigner (?) | 12:00 |
ihrachyshka | I mean, either author or assignee | 12:00 |
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openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Implement Neutron IPv6 Prefix Delegation https://review.openstack.org/158697 | 12:19 |
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ihrachyshka | salv-orl_, hey. a question on policy. in get_admin_roles(), we extract admin roles in _extract_roles, and in case it finds a check that has .rules attribute, it returns all of those roles as if all of them are necessarily enough to become admin. I think it's written assuming it's for OrCheck, but AndCheck would require BOTH roles to be present to get admin permissions, so returning those roles as if each of them provides a | 12:22 |
ihrachyshka | dmin perms seems wrong to me. the code in question is: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/tree/neutron/policy.py#n464 | 12:22 |
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ihrachyshka | comments? | 12:23 |
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salv-orl_ | ihrachyshka: yes, that code was written under the assumption the context_is_admin rules will not have an and clause among roles | 12:26 |
salv-orl_ | supporting that seems not trivial considering that get_admin_roles just returns a list of unqualified roles | 12:28 |
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ihrachyshka | salv-orl_, btw what's the actual intent of putting roles inside context? is it used by some external resources? like controllers? (I saw something similar in opencontrail plugin code) | 12:30 |
ihrachyshka | there is a NOTE in get_admin_roles from you that suggests its some temporary thing | 12:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Revise functional test hooks https://review.openstack.org/168115 | 12:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Refactor functional tests to use discover https://review.openstack.org/172142 | 12:48 |
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salv-orl_ | ihrachyshka: nope. It's for a relatively remote use case when one defines roles different from "admin" for doing admin-level ops | 12:53 |
salv-orl_ | I had once somebody complaining they had their admin called "opsadmin" or whatever because they were integrating with a corporate ldap | 12:54 |
salv-orl_ | the role names came from the corporate ldap and neutron had to reflect those names | 12:54 |
ihrachyshka | salv-orl_, ok, but what does it buy us when we send the role name in context? | 12:55 |
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openstackgerrit | ShaoRan Xiao proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP]Definition of the Virtual Network Performance interface https://review.openstack.org/164814 | 13:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Provide details for configure multiple DHCP agents https://review.openstack.org/172806 | 13:13 |
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haleyb | ajo: since kevin's initial ipset NET name change didn't merge, should you just fold your new change into that? | 13:14 |
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ajo | haleyb, that was my suggestion, | 13:15 |
salv-orl_ | ihrachyshka: those role names are then used for subsequent policy checks. Now, is your next question why would we do that if the roles are supposed to be provided from the keystone middleware? | 13:15 |
ajo | haleyb, we did a few number calculations I posted into my patch, one way or another the chances are almost impossible for collision | 13:15 |
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ajo | yet, my follow up patch makes it yet less possible... I didn't want to delay kevinbenton's patch .. ;) | 13:16 |
ihrachyshka | salv-orl_, YEAH! :) | 13:17 |
haleyb | ajo: ok. i had thought about that naming issue, really just figured something almost just as short (Ntnv4) was close | 13:17 |
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ajo | Ntnv4 ? | 13:17 |
haleyb | "neutron v4" | 13:17 |
haleyb | i.e. something to identify it as being added by neutron, like all those iptables chains/rules | 13:18 |
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ajo | ah, like the "q" prefix for namespaces :) | 13:19 |
ajo | even N4 / N6 if we shorten the "ip version" ethertype | 13:20 |
haleyb | Right, and N is even better | 13:20 |
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haleyb | i was going to write a cleanup module too to deal with the left-over sets if there are any, but I haven't finished reading scrollback to see if that's necessary | 13:21 |
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ajo | hmm, haleyb , having a cleanup tool is a good idea :) | 13:22 |
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salv-orl_ | ihrachyshka: and the answer is that there a few mixins doing db ops at startup. | 13:22 |
salv-orl_ | those db ops are not initiated by an API request and come on at a time where the policy engine might not be initialized at all. | 13:23 |
haleyb | ajo: so will the new naming stay at N* ? old at IPv* ? | 13:23 |
ajo | yes := | 13:24 |
ajo | :-) | 13:24 |
salv-orl_ | ihrachyshka: but I believe we are now at a stage where the role scan can be removed. | 13:24 |
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ihrachyshka | salv-orl_, that would be great, since it would reduce one of the places where we could need oslo.policy to expose RuleCheck, RoleCheck etc. | 13:24 |
ihrachyshka | something oslo team is not willing to do | 13:25 |
ihrachyshka | though I need to understand a bit more about those mixins. any references to mixins that are (were?) affected? | 13:25 |
salv-orl_ | the lbaas one was the problematic one | 13:26 |
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salv-orl_ | but that specific one is changing a lot, this is why we might not need that anymore. | 13:27 |
ihrachyshka | salv-orl_, ok, thanks, I will take a look. ++ for answers. | 13:27 |
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mestery | HenryG_: I proposed dane's IPv6 fix back to stable/kilo, nice work on getting that one resolved! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174373/ | 13:30 |
openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Add some more comments to models/frozen.py https://review.openstack.org/174379 | 13:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Increase max attempts to 2 for pings on ARP tests https://review.openstack.org/174154 | 14:10 |
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dguerri | hello there. Quick question :) I am trying to configure a vrrp instance with openstack vms. I managed to get "allowed_address_pairs" working so, internally, I can ping the virtual IP I have configured. How can I associate that IP to a floating IP? | 14:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Neo proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Fix strongswan driver to support rhel https://review.openstack.org/174205 | 14:28 |
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openstackgerrit | John Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron: Add callback prior to deleting a subnet https://review.openstack.org/174268 | 14:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Revise functional test hooks https://review.openstack.org/168115 | 14:33 |
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pc_m | mestery: hi | 14:34 |
mestery | pc_m: good morning | 14:34 |
pc_m | mestery: Can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169008/5? I think it is good to go. | 14:34 |
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pc_m | mestery: Also, I did a (trivial) FW commit that missed Kilo. Could use a review to get that one out of the way. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171637/ | 14:35 |
mestery | pc_m: Will look | 14:35 |
pc_m | mestery: Thanks you. | 14:36 |
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pc_m | mestery: There are a bunch of VPN bugs in LP. I've looked at a few so far, but there are a pile. They need to be prioritized as well. | 14:38 |
pc_m | mestery: Advice? | 14:38 |
mestery | pc_m: Can you see what you think and email me a summary and I'll provide guidance that way? | 14:38 |
pc_m | mestery: I can try, but there are like 30 of them... | 14:39 |
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mestery | pc_m: Wow! Do your best, make a high level pass and I'll sync with you | 14:40 |
pc_m | mestery: OK. | 14:40 |
pc_m | mestery: Some have been around for a while, some not vetted, some duplicates. I can set status, but not priority (and have no idea on some of these). | 14:42 |
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mestery | pc_m: Thanks for covering these | 14:47 |
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pc_m | mestery: np. | 14:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Remove hack for sending gratuitous arp from fip ns https://review.openstack.org/174129 | 14:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Nikolay Fedotov proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Scenario test for vpnaas: ipsec-site-connection https://review.openstack.org/159746 | 14:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Refactor functional tests to use discover https://review.openstack.org/172142 | 15:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrew Boik proposed openstack/neutron: Allow only one IPv4 and one IPv6 fixed IP on router gateway port https://review.openstack.org/167784 | 15:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Robin Wang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Agent Group and Tooz Driver https://review.openstack.org/174438 | 15:45 |
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busterswt | matrohon Opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1445089 for LinuxBridge/VXLAN allowed-address-pairs issues as requested | 15:50 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1445089 in neutron "allowed-address-pairs broken with l2pop/arp responder and LinuxBridge/VXLAN" [Undecided,New] | 15:50 |
matrohon | busterswt : cool thanks | 15:51 |
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vishwanathj | pc_m, Hi | 15:52 |
pc_m | vishwanathj: hi | 15:52 |
vishwanathj | pc_m, was wondering if you had the links to the patch set related to updating requirements.txt to point to Kilo? | 15:52 |
matrohon | busterswt : great description! | 15:53 |
vishwanathj | remember SumitNaiksatam and mestery talked about this at the FWaaS IRC meeting yesterday | 15:53 |
busterswt | matrohon :) | 15:53 |
pc_m | vishwanathj: I had issues with my local repo (I didn't pull branch right), so in the discussion to try to resolve, Kyle ended up doing 3 patches for the repos. | 15:54 |
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matrohon | busterswt : do you want to try to fix upstream? | 15:54 |
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busterswt | matrohon What would be your approach to fix? | 15:55 |
pc_m | vishwanathj: Reviews are 174070, 174071, 174068 (FW) | 15:55 |
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vishwanathj | pc_m, i found it thanks....https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174068/ | 15:55 |
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matrohon | busterswt : I don't think it's a big deal, the main point will be to reproduce it with two devstack | 15:57 |
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matrohon | busterswt : I can give a hand of course! | 15:58 |
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matrohon | busterswt : but considering that your team seems to be the main one known to use l2pop+lb+vxlan, it make sense you start to get familiar with the code | 16:00 |
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matrohon | busterswt : maybe you are already familiar with that part of the code! | 16:00 |
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busterswt | matrohon i'm happy to replicate in a multi-devstack environment if it helps out. I've installed devstack once :) | 16:01 |
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busterswt | matrohon getting more and more famiiiar every day! | 16:02 |
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sdake | hey guys debugging a problem with Juno Neutron - I created a heat template with a resource group that spawns 30 nova servers + 30 ports + 30 floating ips | 16:12 |
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sdake | all of my vms get dhcp access and metadata access, but nova doesn't show the networks in nova list | 16:13 |
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sdake | http://paste.fedoraproject.org/211955/98812142 | 16:13 |
sdake | it shows *some* of the networks | 16:13 |
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haleyb | sdake: does neutron net-list show them all ? | 16:15 |
sdake | haleyb you mean port-list? | 16:16 |
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sdake | wow bigbone | 16:16 |
sdake | http://ur1.ca/k6rxw -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/211974/14292009 | 16:16 |
haleyb | sdake: you said it wasn't showing the networks ? | 16:16 |
sdake | thanks for that | 16:16 |
sdake | sorry showing the ip addresses - check out fist paste last column | 16:17 |
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haleyb | sdake: well, from what i remember, nova only synchronizes itself with neutron every so often, so is sometimes stale | 16:17 |
sdake | my system has been up for30 minutes | 16:18 |
sdake | I think it hsould have synced by now ;) | 16:18 |
sdake | single node | 16:18 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-fwaas: FWaaS: Remove check for bash usage https://review.openstack.org/171637 | 16:18 |
sdake | nm second paste, there are 30 ports assigned the ips | 16:19 |
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haleyb | sdake: i can't seem to find info on the way sync works, but there might have even been a summit talk on it. 30 minutes does seem like enough time though | 16:21 |
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haleyb | sdake: hmm, there is a config value called heal_instance_info_cache_interval, which defaults to 60 seconds | 16:27 |
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sdake | we are not setting that at all | 16:29 |
sdake | so we are using the juno defaults whatever they are ;-) | 16:29 |
haleyb | you'd see it in the nova log somewhere, maybe you've hit some synchronization bug if neutron port-list is showing all the IPs | 16:30 |
jaypipes | salv-orl_: added some thoughts to the API rework blueprint spec... | 16:30 |
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cference_ | edwarnicke, hey | 16:35 |
edwarnicke | opendaylight | 16:35 |
edwarnicke | Not openstack | 16:35 |
edwarnicke | #opendaylight-neutron | 16:35 |
cference_ | Ah crap | 16:35 |
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salv-orl_ | thanks jaypipes! | 16:51 |
jaypipes | salv-orl_: no problemo. | 16:51 |
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pc_m | Anyone versed in oslo rootwrap? I'm struggling trying to get a known working functional test to run with changes to the test setup. | 17:17 |
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salv-orl_ | mestery, HenryG: do you think we should push a placeholder kilo migration? I don't remember if we do that once we close version X or when we open version X+1? | 17:24 |
salv-orl_ | if you have it already in review, I apologise in advance for being lazy in searching on gerrit | 17:25 |
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mestery | salv-orl_: YEs, and I don't know either. HenryG, do you recall? | 17:26 |
HenryG | My memory is fuzzy on this. Let me try and look what we did for juno. | 17:27 |
salv-orl_ | we did the placeholder as usual. I think before releasing but I'm not sure | 17:27 |
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HenryG | mestery: salv-orl_: https://review.openstack.org/127265 | 17:28 |
HenryG | That was merged Oct 10. When was the release? | 17:28 |
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kevinbenton | last fall | 17:28 |
HenryG | don't say things like that when I am drinking coffee | 17:29 |
kevinbenton | :) | 17:29 |
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HenryG | Are we anticipating any more kilo db migrations before the release is cut? We could probably do the kilo marker now. | 17:32 |
salv-orl_ | I think we can. that marker is just a placeholder. should there be a last-minute migration (and it really shouldn't) then the placeholder can be movd | 17:33 |
HenryG | ok, I can do it. Should it be proposed to master? | 17:34 |
salv-orl_ | HenryG: master and stable/kilo | 17:34 |
HenryG | ok | 17:34 |
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HenryG | mestery: does it need a bug? | 17:36 |
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salv-orl_ | I don't know about mestery but I would not require it | 17:37 |
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GLaupre | Hello everyone. I am trying to do a proof of concept for a project. I am wondering what are the minimum requirements that a MD for ML2 plugin should implement and where can I find that information? The idea is to use some hardware offload features of a NIC to bypass the vlan tagging/detagging by software bridges in a VLAN setup. | 17:38 |
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mestery | No bug requred salv-orl_ HenryG | 17:38 |
mestery | :) | 17:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Add Kilo release milestone https://review.openstack.org/174483 | 17:39 |
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HenryG | mestery: salv-orl_: please check my copy&paste | 17:40 |
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mestery | HenryG: looking | 17:40 |
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HenryG | salv-orl_: what about the *ass migration branches? | 17:45 |
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salv-orl_ | HenryG: push a placeholder there too if it has not already been done | 17:51 |
salv-orl_ | there should not be a problem with name uniqueness | 17:51 |
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HenryG | salv-orl_: tried it, seems to be no problem with uniqueness | 17:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Add Kilo release milestone https://review.openstack.org/174498 | 18:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Henry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Add Kilo release milestone https://review.openstack.org/174500 | 18:01 |
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HenryG | mestery: *aas marker reviews posted ^^ | 18:02 |
mestery | HenryG: You rule :) | 18:02 |
mestery | HenryG: lbaas too? dougwig would like that :) | 18:02 |
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HenryG | mestery: dougwig: it's also up, https://review.openstack.org/174497 | 18:02 |
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HenryG | mestery: lbaas patches announce on the lbaas channel | 18:03 |
mestery | HenryG: yup | 18:03 |
mestery | quadruple tasking | 18:03 |
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HenryG | mestery: will cherrypick to stables once jenkins passes | 18:03 |
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mestery | HenryG: ack! | 18:04 |
openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Fix _device_to_port_id for non-tap devices https://review.openstack.org/173137 | 18:05 |
HenryG | mestery: going offline for ~30 min | 18:05 |
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GLaupre | Can someone give me directions please? | 18:10 |
GLaupre | :p | 18:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Uncap library requirements for liberty https://review.openstack.org/174540 | 18:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Clarify the init logic for the ML2 plugin https://review.openstack.org/174168 | 18:24 |
openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Deal with TODO related to Security Groups RPC API's classes https://review.openstack.org/174168 | 18:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Clarify the init logic for the ML2 plugin https://review.openstack.org/174555 | 18:27 |
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salv-orl_ | mestery, armax: added a snarky comment to bug 1444112 | 18:37 |
openstack | bug 1444112 in neutron "ML2 security groups only work with agent drivers" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444112 - Assigned to Armando Migliaccio (armando-migliaccio) | 18:37 |
mestery | salv-orl_: I expect nothing less :) | 18:37 |
mestery | kevinbenton: Yikes, your ipset fixes are not doing well in the gate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174033/ | 18:37 |
mestery | kevinbenton: We need this to land today so we can cherry-pick them over to stable/kilo for RC2 tomorrow. | 18:37 |
armax | salv-orl_: actually I was about to reply on that one | 18:38 |
mestery | kevinbenton: Any ideas? I've gotta run for out for 30 minmutes, just making sure this is on your radar. | 18:38 |
armax | salv-orl_: thanks for chiming in | 18:38 |
kevinbenton | mestery: yeah, i didn't realize how unstable the gate was | 18:38 |
kevinbenton | mestery: failures seem unrelated and are different each time | 18:38 |
mestery | kevinbenton: I thought dane's fix would ahve helped | 18:38 |
kevinbenton | mestery: i do need re-approval on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173753/ | 18:38 |
kevinbenton | mestery: there was another unit test that had a ipset strings embedded that i missed | 18:39 |
kevinbenton | mestery: i will keep monitoring them today | 18:39 |
mestery | kevinbenton: OMG, *sigh* | 18:39 |
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mestery | kevinbenton: Thanks sir! Me too, this is the only other bug on the RC list I consider release critical | 18:39 |
salv-orl_ | kevinbenton: did the ipset full cause gate failures often? in that case I'd stash patch £173573 in the revert | 18:39 |
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salv-orl_ | armax: I am just adding some noise on the bug you're trying to fix. Assuming it's a bug. | 18:40 |
armax | salv-orl_: yes it’s going to be | 18:40 |
armax | salv-orl_: rest assured | 18:40 |
armax | salv-orl_: you’ve anticipated me, wait for my forthcoming comment | 18:40 |
salv-orl_ | armax are you sure ML2 has not been designed to work that way? | 18:40 |
kevinbenton | salv-orl_: i don't understand | 18:40 |
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salv-orl_ | if you merge the revert for haleyb fixes | 18:41 |
armax | salv-orl_: well, I believe that most of the Neutron components have been designed with the RPC assumption in mind | 18:41 |
salv-orl_ | for a little while the ipset size issue will be again in the gate | 18:41 |
armax | salv-orl_: not just ML2, but L3, Firewall, VPN, etc | 18:41 |
salv-orl_ | if the gate is already unstable, this will add another reason for failure | 18:41 |
salv-orl_ | and l3_db for that matter | 18:41 |
salv-orl_ | and the dvr mixin | 18:41 |
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armax | salv-orl_: right | 18:42 |
salv-orl_ | and everything that it's been developed in the past 12 months | 18:42 |
armax | salv-orl_: or longer | 18:42 |
salv-orl_ | since when we start to push plugins which were not ML2 + agent aside | 18:42 |
kevinbenton | salv-orl_: oh, i didn't think that was the cause, but maybe i should flip the order of the patches | 18:42 |
salv-orl_ | that was when we began ignoring the distinction between mgmt and control plane | 18:42 |
armax | salv-orl_: perhaps we never made that distinction clear enough | 18:42 |
salv-orl_ | kevinbenton: it wasn't but it could be on the next recheck! | 18:42 |
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armax | same story goes for DHCP | 18:43 |
armax | salv-orl_: isn’t that what pluggable IPAM is about? | 18:43 |
salv-orl_ | armax: that is right. I had a bug open since grizzly for l3_db notifying the agent and never fixed it | 18:43 |
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armax | salv-orl_: so, yes…we made that fundamental assumption that turned to be flawed | 18:43 |
openstackgerrit | Darragh O'Reilly proposed openstack/neutron: lb-agent: ensure tap mtu is the same as physical device https://review.openstack.org/174558 | 18:43 |
salv-orl_ | armax: not it in its currently implementation. But that is outside of my hands. The dev team has different ideas | 18:44 |
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armax | salv-orl_: you mean DHCP? | 18:44 |
salv-orl_ | armax: IPAM | 18:44 |
kevinbenton | salv-orl_: can you +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173753/ ? | 18:44 |
armax | salv-orl_: I used DHCP and IPAM interchangeably here…so we’re talking the same thing | 18:44 |
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salv-orl_ | armax: I'm confusing you. If you want to talk more you'd have to wait until after dinner | 18:45 |
salv-orl_ | in the meanwhile my cat will be happy to replace me | 18:45 |
armax | salv-orl_: ok go get your tummy full we’ll talk later | 18:45 |
armax | salv-orl_: meow | 18:45 |
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HenryG | dougwig: ping | 18:50 |
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HenryG | dougwig: un-ping | 18:51 |
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dougwig | HenryG: ack, un-ack | 19:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Revise functional test hooks https://review.openstack.org/168115 | 19:12 |
openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Quota model: use HasTenantId mixin https://review.openstack.org/174570 | 19:13 |
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HenryG | dougwig: I guess I'll ask anyway to make sure. Looks like the *aaSes are releasing Kilo in step with neutron core? Will that always be the case or will they diverge one day? | 19:16 |
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sc68cal | HenryG: hopefully we can keep it to only Swift that has their own release schedule.... | 19:18 |
dougwig | HenryG: they will stay in step for as long as they're running inside neutron-server, I think. | 19:20 |
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salv-orl_ | dougwig, sc68cal, HenryG: afaict from what I recall with the "big tent" changes every project will be free to set their own release schedule | 19:39 |
salv-orl_ | so as dougwig said lbaas and others are only constrained by the dependency of having to run inside neutron-server container | 19:39 |
dougwig | salv-orl_: true, but neutron-*aas are all under the neutron project. | 19:39 |
salv-orl_ | but then in the furue they | 19:39 |
salv-orl_ | will be free to choose their best destiny since there will be no more "networking" program, only openstack projects | 19:40 |
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salv-orl_ | I'd still rather keep in sync the release of all openstack networking-related projects, but the list will quickly grow in the future so I suspect this won't be feasible long-term | 19:41 |
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salv-orl_ | speaking of which... I want to propose a svcaas to project | 19:41 |
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salv-orl_ | the answer to all *aas projects - a "service as a service" project, which can provide every service you want in a "aas" fashion. | 19:42 |
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kbringard | AASaaS? | 19:43 |
kbringard | it's just services, all the way down | 19:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Synced versionutils from oslo-incubator https://review.openstack.org/172480 | 19:49 |
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anteaya | anyone know who runs ryu ci? | 20:09 |
anteaya | they dont' have a wikipage | 20:10 |
anteaya | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 20:10 |
anteaya | I am hoping to talk to someone associated with this account | 20:10 |
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enikanorov_ | amuller: hi | 20:12 |
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enikanorov_ | amuller: i'm trying to run keepalived functional tests locally and see it failing every time | 20:14 |
enikanorov_ | is there any special config that needs to be applied on the box to successfully run it? | 20:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add security groups events https://review.openstack.org/174588 | 20:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add security groups events https://review.openstack.org/174588 | 20:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack/neutron: Add IPset cleanup script https://review.openstack.org/174590 | 20:26 |
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haplomephistos | Where would one look if they suddenly started getting binding_failed on the port added with a neutron router-gateway-set? I get lota of "qr-3a0f7b2e-66 device failed: No such device" type messages and it isn't completely tying me to the bridge so I can't ping out my namespace. | 20:33 |
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dguerri | hello there, is it possible to associate a floatingIP address to an address managed by the allowed_address_pairs extension? (http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_allowed_address_pairs_workflow.html) | 20:49 |
dguerri | sorry probably wrong channel :( | 20:50 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: i don't think you can right now :( | 20:51 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: just because the association is with a port | 20:51 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: but let me look into it really quick in the code | 20:51 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: you might be able to | 20:53 |
dguerri | kevinbenton I have been using this "guide": http://blog.aaronorosen.com/implementing-high-availability-instances-with-neutron-using-vrrp/ but the "detached" port used there won't come up, so traffic won't get through | 20:53 |
dguerri | kevinbenton how? :) | 20:53 |
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kevinbenton | dguerri: one sec | 20:54 |
dguerri | sure | 20:54 |
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amuller | enikanorov_: heya, back | 20:58 |
amuller | enikanorov_: Can you paste the failure logs? | 20:58 |
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enikanorov_ | amuller: a sec | 20:58 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: ugh, no, it looks like the validation only checks against fixed ips | 20:59 |
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dguerri | kevinbenton I wonder how this guy got it working http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_allowed_address_pairs_workflow.html | 21:01 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: well allowed address pairs work okay | 21:01 |
dguerri | but it's the only documentation about that I have been able to find | 21:01 |
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kevinbenton | dguerri: just floating ip to an allowed address hasn't come up i think before | 21:01 |
dguerri | yep | 21:01 |
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dguerri | he creates a port with the shared fixed IP, and then he associates it with a floatingIP. | 21:03 |
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dguerri | trouble is that it won't come up :) | 21:03 |
dguerri | I think because it is attached to nothing | 21:03 |
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enikanorov_ | amuller: http://paste.openstack.org/show/204145/ | 21:05 |
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amuller | enikanorov_: that's odd, does the machine have keepalived? | 21:05 |
amuller | enikanorov_: try keepalived -h | 21:05 |
amuller | enikanorov_: it's a devstack requirement | 21:05 |
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kevinbenton | dguerri: are you just referring to the status of the port? | 21:06 |
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kevinbenton | dguerri: because that will show down | 21:07 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: but the floating ip should work | 21:07 |
dguerri | mmmh | 21:07 |
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dguerri | yes port status and floating IP status are both down | 21:07 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: yeah, ignore the status's of those and just see if connectivity works | 21:08 |
dguerri | nope, unfortunately it won't. I thought because of the status | 21:09 |
enikanorov_ | amuller: yes it does. Keepalived v1.2.7 (08/14,2013) | 21:09 |
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amuller | enikanorov_: are there any logs in syslog related to keepalived? | 21:09 |
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kevinbenton | dguerri: ok, let me see if i encounter the same issue | 21:10 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: are you using dvr? | 21:10 |
enikanorov_ | amuller: looking. i think i've seen something like it didn't like the configuration that test has provided | 21:10 |
amuller | enikanorov_: at least that would make sense | 21:11 |
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enikanorov_ | amuller: some errors like | 21:11 |
enikanorov_ | Apr 15 20:38:41 localhost Keepalived_vrrp[25580]: No such interface, eth1 | 21:11 |
enikanorov_ | Apr 15 20:38:41 localhost Keepalived_vrrp[25580]: VRRP is trying to assign VIP to unknown eth1 interface !!! go out and fixe your conf !!! | 21:11 |
enikanorov_ | same with eth2 and eth10 | 21:12 |
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dguerri | kevinbenton, thank you so much for the help. No, not using dvr | 21:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Add Kilo release milestone https://review.openstack.org/174500 | 21:12 |
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dguerri | kevinbenton: hold on... yes. dvr extension is there | 21:13 |
amuller | enikanorov_: let me look in my setup, maybe on my setup I get those errors but keepalived is willing to spawn (different version) | 21:14 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: ok | 21:14 |
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enikanorov_ | amuller: hmm, on another box func test is passing, same version of keepalived, same errors in the syslog | 21:15 |
enikanorov_ | ubuntu 14.04 | 21:15 |
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amuller | enikanorov_: it's passing on my machine with no errors in syslog, fedora 20 and keepalived 1.2.15-2 | 21:18 |
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amuller | enikanorov_: are the L3 HA functional tests passing? | 21:19 |
kevinbenton | salv-orl_: are you around still? | 21:19 |
amuller | enikanorov_: for example neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.*.test_ha_router_lifecycle | 21:20 |
amuller | enikanorov_: that will fail if keepalived doesn't spawn | 21:20 |
amuller | enikanorov_: also can you run neutron.tests.functional.agent.linux.test_keepalived.*.test_keepalived_respawns ? | 21:21 |
enikanorov_ | respawns fails as well as *spawns | 21:22 |
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amuller | enikanorov_: and the ha_router_lifecycle test? | 21:22 |
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enikanorov_ | amuller: there's a problem with func tests. if i enable tests with sudo, i starts failing because it can't import ovs.db... | 21:25 |
enikanorov_ | and each test takes like 5-10 seconds | 21:25 |
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amuller | enikanorov_: on both of your machines? | 21:26 |
amuller | otherwiseguy: ping | 21:26 |
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otherwiseguy | amuller: pong | 21:26 |
amuller | otherwiseguy: if enikanorov_ can't import ovs.db is it the issue of the mssing OVS python library? | 21:26 |
enikanorov_ | amuller: that's really an issue with ovs.db which i don't have and it's not a dependency | 21:26 |
amuller | in functional tests | 21:26 |
otherwiseguy | enikanorov_: install the python-openvswitch package. | 21:26 |
enikanorov_ | otherwiseguy: ok | 21:26 |
amuller | otherwiseguy: what installs it currently I forgot? | 21:27 |
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otherwiseguy | amuller: the configure_for_func_testing.sh script will install it for you if you run that. | 21:27 |
otherwiseguy | But otherwise it's just a "yeah, you have to remember that." | 21:27 |
otherwiseguy | It should have been added to devstack to install python-openvswitch, but meh. | 21:27 |
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otherwiseguy | I now have setuptools stuff merged into the ovs tree and am getting ready to make the first PyPI release of the ovs library so we can just put it in requirements.txt. | 21:28 |
enikanorov_ | otherwiseguy: good to know. trying | 21:28 |
amuller | enikanorov_: you should run configure_for_func_testing.sh on machines you want to run the functional tests | 21:28 |
enikanorov_ | yep, trying | 21:28 |
amuller | otherwiseguy++ | 21:28 |
otherwiseguy | and am apparently becoming the PyPI maintainer for the library. So probably a lot more fixes and releases for the library itself coming. | 21:29 |
amuller | otherwiseguy: bam | 21:30 |
amuller | that's how you do it :) | 21:30 |
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enikanorov_ | otherwiseguy: apparently installing python-openvswitch doesn't fix importing error. i guess i need to install it into .tox/funcitonal/*python*/ | 21:31 |
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otherwiseguy | enikanorov_: you should be using dsvm-functional. | 21:31 |
otherwiseguy | functional doesn't allow external libraries. | 21:31 |
otherwiseguy | yeah, it is entirely too fragile and crazy. | 21:32 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Lbaas, use Octavia as reference implementation https://review.openstack.org/174616 | 21:32 |
enikanorov_ | ok | 21:32 |
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kevinbenton | dguerri: yeah, this approach may have been broken by the changes to dvr | 21:33 |
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dguerri | kevinbenton well, bummer. But good to know. At least now I can stop trying (I have been struggling aaaalll day) :) | 21:35 |
dguerri | thanks man | 21:35 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: would associating the floating ip directly to one of the devices using an allowed address pair fit your use case? | 21:36 |
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vishwanathj | amotoki, mestery, hi...What do you guys think about adding "Horizon Impact" and "Neutron Client Impact" section to the neutron specs? My personal opinion is that this could be helpful for implementers to think through and plan for such efforts when implementing a neutron spec. | 21:37 |
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dguerri | kevinbenton yes, it will work for now. | 21:38 |
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kevinbenton | dguerri: it would require a code change | 21:40 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: but it doesn't look bad | 21:40 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: can you try disabling DVR and see if it works without DVR? | 21:40 |
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dguerri | kevinbenton unfortunately I don't have admin on that infra | 21:42 |
blogan | dguerri: i've followed that same blog before and i am almost certain i got the floatingip working | 21:42 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: i suspect that the changes for floating IP routing in DVR is what's keeping it from working | 21:43 |
mestery | vishwanathj: Seems like a decent idea, though in theory people would file python-neutronclient BPs and Horizon ones as well | 21:43 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: because floating IPs are now realized directly on the compute node of the port | 21:43 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: and since the port you create isn't bound to a compute node, i don't think the floating IP gets realized anywhere | 21:44 |
dguerri | kevinbenton that explain it | 21:44 |
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blogan | kevinbenton: thats not good | 21:44 |
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kevinbenton | blogan, dguerri: yeah, in that scenario i would hope it would just fallback to the agent running SNAT or something | 21:45 |
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blogan | kevinbenton, dguerri: i have to test this out now myself | 21:45 |
kevinbenton | blogan: yeah, give it a shot | 21:46 |
dguerri | blogan, thanks! | 21:46 |
openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Block subnet create with mismatched IP subnet version and subnetpool IP version https://review.openstack.org/173594 | 21:46 |
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kevinbenton | blogan: yeah, i see that nothing is responding to the ARP request for the floating IP even though it's associated to a port | 22:05 |
kevinbenton | dougwig: another level of decomposition! | 22:06 |
dougwig | kevinbenton: taking the temperature. i just like being yelled at. | 22:06 |
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blogan | kevinbenton: just tried it out and it worked, but i realized my neutron master hadn't been updated in 2 weeks :( | 22:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Revert "Add ipset element and hashsize tunables" https://review.openstack.org/174033 | 22:12 |
kevinbenton | blogan: so create a port to get an IP | 22:12 |
kevinbenton | blogan: add that IP in allowed address pairs of another port | 22:12 |
kevinbenton | blogan: associate a floating IP to the first port | 22:13 |
kevinbenton | blogan: and you can connect to the other port via the floating IP? | 22:13 |
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kevinbenton | blogan: (aftering configuring the OS with the floating IP) | 22:13 |
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kevinbenton | blogan: whoops, i mean the IP of the first port | 22:13 |
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blogan | kevinbenton: that IP has to be raised on an interface | 22:14 |
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blogan | kevinbenton: that blog uses keepalived, which raises the port's IP | 22:15 |
blogan | so arp does happen | 22:15 |
blogan | im testing again on a more updated neutron | 22:15 |
blogan | so it may not work for me now | 22:16 |
kevinbenton | blogan: i meant that the l3 agent wasn't even responding to ARP, let alone the compute node | 22:17 |
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dguerri | blogan: are you using dvr? | 22:21 |
blogan | dguerri: oh no, do i need that enabled? | 22:21 |
kevinbenton | blogan: yeah | 22:21 |
blogan | damnit | 22:21 |
blogan | lol | 22:21 |
kevinbenton | blogan: this is a dvr bug | 22:21 |
blogan | im an idiot | 22:22 |
kevinbenton | blogan: read teh backlog! :) | 22:22 |
dguerri | :) | 22:22 |
blogan | i didnt read the entire scrollback lol | 22:22 |
* blogan goes back into the hole he came from | 22:22 | |
kevinbenton | blogan: i was busting out git bisect and everything ... :) | 22:22 |
blogan | well glad i could waste yalls time and mine | 22:22 |
dguerri | blogan, nevertheless now we know that if there is something broken, it must be something related to dvr | 22:22 |
kevinbenton | blogan: yeah, it was useful to confirm that it's specific to dvr | 22:23 |
kevinbenton | armax: does DVR have logic to bring a floating IP up on the snat node if there isn't an l3 agent on a compute node where the port exists? | 22:23 |
blogan | well as long as we put a little silver lining to my idocy | 22:23 |
blogan | idiocy | 22:23 |
blogan | but yeah it works with me updating neutron to current master too | 22:24 |
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armax | kevinbenton: ping | 22:45 |
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kevinbenton | armax: yo | 22:46 |
armax | not sure I understand your question | 22:46 |
kevinbenton | armax: with dvr enabled, a floating IP associated to an unbound port doesn't seem to be brought online on any l3 agent | 22:47 |
armax | what would you do with an unbound FIP? | 22:47 |
kevinbenton | another instance is configured with the IP of the unbound port as an allowed address pair | 22:48 |
armax | kevinbenton: as soon the port becomes bound then the FIP appears on teh host associated to the l3 agent in charge of that host | 22:48 |
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kevinbenton | well multiple instances are | 22:48 |
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kevinbenton | dguerri was trying to follow Aaron's guide here: http://blog.aaronorosen.com/implementing-high-availability-instances-with-neutron-using-vrrp/ | 22:49 |
kevinbenton | and it doesn't work with DVR | 22:49 |
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armax | kevinbenton: ok, but are we sure that’s because of an unbound port? | 22:50 |
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kevinbenton | armax: seems to be | 22:51 |
kevinbenton | armax: no l3 agent will respond to an ARP request for the floating IP when i try it | 22:51 |
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armax | kevinbenton: ok, now I am with you | 22:52 |
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armax | kevinbenton: in aaron’s case the fip is associated to an unbound port | 22:53 |
armax | kevinbenton: and yet routing works fine | 22:54 |
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armax | kevinbenton: I don’t think taht for such scenario DVR makes much sense | 22:55 |
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armax | kevinbenton: because if we allowed to have teh FIP namespace to land on the dvr_snat agent | 22:55 |
armax | kevinbenton: you’re basically back to central routing | 22:56 |
kevinbenton | armax: right | 22:56 |
armax | kevinbenton: am I making any sense? | 22:56 |
armax | kevinbenton: I am not saying that lack of VRRP support is nice | 22:56 |
armax | kevinbenton: I am tryign to wrap my head around this | 22:56 |
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kevinbenton | armax: i was thinking maybe there was some fallback logic where the SNAT one would host a floating IP if there wasn't another l3 agent that could handle it | 22:56 |
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kevinbenton | armax: for example if one of the compute nodes wasn't running the l3 agent | 22:57 |
kevinbenton | armax: it would be the same scenario | 22:57 |
kevinbenton | armax: right? | 22:57 |
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armax | kevinbenton: no | 23:01 |
armax | kevinbenton: dvr is already riddled with too many special cases | 23:02 |
armax | kevinbenton: I think such a fallback logic would be very problematic | 23:02 |
armax | kevinbenton: would the l3 agent not be running because it’s intentional or because of a transient or permanent fault? | 23:03 |
kevinbenton | armax: intentional | 23:03 |
armax | kevinbenton: right, but how would you detect that? | 23:03 |
armax | kevinbenton: you’re thinking of supporting another kind of hybrid approach | 23:04 |
kevinbenton | armax: "if port.host_id not in active_l3_agents" | 23:04 |
kevinbenton | armax: yeah, this is unfortunate | 23:04 |
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kevinbenton | armax: it means dvr can't work with bare metals hosts either :( | 23:04 |
armax | kevinbenton: where some computes may have l3 agents running and some do? | 23:04 |
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kevinbenton | armax: that particular example was just for illustration | 23:05 |
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kevinbenton | armax: strike it from the record :) | 23:05 |
armax | kevinbenton: that depends on how you intend to run bare metal hosts | 23:05 |
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kevinbenton | armax: use DVR with VLAN mode | 23:06 |
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kevinbenton | armax: put bare metal host on neutron vlan | 23:06 |
armax | kevinbenton: or even use DVR with L2GW | 23:06 |
kevinbenton | armax: create a port for the bare metal host in neutron so dhcp responds | 23:06 |
armax | kevinbenton: but maybe we’re going into a much different discussion | 23:06 |
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armax | kevinbenton: basically you’re saying that you’d like the user to tell the FIP creation to bound an l3 agent of your chosing | 23:07 |
armax | kevinbenton: maybe that’s more interesting | 23:07 |
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kevinbenton | armax: that would work as a fallback | 23:07 |
armax | kevinbenton: or perhaps slightly easier to support | 23:07 |
kevinbenton | armax: but it would need to be tenant-driven as well (not admin-only) | 23:07 |
dguerri | armax kevinbenton about supporting VRRP with DVR: as VRRP is actually working with fixed IPs, it's just a matter of "exposing" those IPs outside. A possible workaround would be to trigger the FIP association with a keepalived trigger. | 23:07 |
armax | kevinbenton: yeah that’s the sucky part | 23:07 |
dguerri | that's not a solution, just a workaround | 23:08 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: right | 23:08 |
armax | but what begs the question | 23:08 |
armax | is: for an unbound FIP why would you need a DVR at all? | 23:08 |
kevinbenton | dguerri, armax: i think now that we're already at the point of major code changes, let's just allow floating IP to be associated with an allowed address pair | 23:08 |
armax | kevinbenton: I must be missing something | 23:08 |
dguerri | probably what you were saying earlier, kevinbenton | 23:08 |
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kevinbenton | armax: it doesn't need to be DVR, it just needs to work somewhere | 23:09 |
kevinbenton | armax: like it does without DVR | 23:09 |
armax | kevinbenton: understood | 23:09 |
armax | kevinbenton: I guess if I could choose I’d create a centralized router | 23:09 |
armax | kevinbenton: because that’s all I’d need for this type of scenario | 23:10 |
armax | kevinbenton: but I can see the complication | 23:10 |
kevinbenton | armax: right, but a tenant can't make that choice | 23:10 |
armax | kevinbenton: should the backend implicitily create me a DVR by default | 23:10 |
kevinbenton | armax: and the tenant actually might want DVR for everything else | 23:10 |
armax | kevinbenton: maybe we need to allow mobility of FIP's | 23:10 |
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kevinbenton | armax: it would be cool to be able to move them around | 23:11 |
armax | kevinbenton: they land where it makes the most sense | 23:11 |
kevinbenton | armax: and then maybe have an 'assign to random' option for this scenario | 23:11 |
armax | kevinbenton: so if unbound on some specified pool | 23:11 |
armax | and if bound, closest to the source | 23:11 |
kevinbenton | armax: right | 23:11 |
armax | kevinbenton: mumble muble | 23:12 |
kevinbenton | armax: will you have code up for review today or tomorrow? | 23:12 |
armax | kevinbenton: I was gonna ask you the same question, darn you beat me to it | 23:12 |
dguerri | kevinbenton armax o.O' lol | 23:12 |
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dguerri | shall I open a bug? | 23:12 |
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kevinbenton | dguerri: i think so | 23:12 |
dguerri | cool | 23:13 |
kevinbenton | dguerri: even if we don't go the route of floating IP mobility, we should at least allow it to be associated with a port based on an allowed address pair | 23:13 |
armax | dguerri: sure, please tag the bug with l3-dvr-backlog so that it stays close to its friends | 23:13 |
dguerri | will do | 23:13 |
armax | kevinbenton: we need to be careful | 23:13 |
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kevinbenton | armax: do you see an issue with that? | 23:14 |
armax | not yet, but I am sure they’ll come up | 23:14 |
armax | kevinbenton: like this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174228/ | 23:14 |
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armax | kevinbenton: your patch to anticipate DHCP allocation caused a bit of havoc | 23:14 |
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armax | kevinbenton: it’s always difficult to try to have the full picture | 23:15 |
kevinbenton | armax: good | 23:15 |
armax | kevinbenton: until we start poking at the beast | 23:15 |
armax | I’d like for swami to chime in on the bug report, he’s supposed to be our resident expert for DVR | 23:17 |
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kevinbenton | armax: how did my patch cause that bug? | 23:17 |
kevinbenton | armax: people could update subnets before my patch, no? | 23:17 |
armax | kevinbenton: well the problem occurs at subnet create | 23:17 |
armax | kevinbenton: let’s say that your patch made a latent problem more evident | 23:18 |
armax | kevinbenton: having said that it’s still unclear how we regressed because from juno to kilo the subnet creation with that type of cidr was prevented | 23:18 |
armax | kevinbenton: but moving the dhcp port creation at the subnet_create time | 23:19 |
armax | kevinbenton: made the issue appear sooner, I suppose | 23:19 |
armax | kevinbenton: the issue was there, you only catalyzed it | 23:19 |
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dguerri | armax kevinbenton https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1445255 not the best bug report I have ever filed... but I need some rest (quite late in this TZ :) ) | 23:22 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1445255 in neutron "FloatingIP and allowed_address_pairs won't work with DVR" [Undecided,New] | 23:22 |
armax | dguerri: which one is it? | 23:22 |
dguerri | UK | 23:23 |
dguerri | thanks again for your help | 23:23 |
armax | dguerri: no worries | 23:23 |
armax | dguerri: thanks for trying the beast | 23:23 |
dguerri | ;) | 23:23 |
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Sukhdev | armax: Ping | 23:36 |
armax | Sukhdev: pong | 23:36 |
Sukhdev | armax: do you have few minutes? Having issue with L2GW data path | 23:37 |
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armax | Sukhdev: let me see if I can help you but I am not well equipped at the moment | 23:38 |
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HenryG | otherwiseguy: ping | 23:45 |
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