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openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Add logging of agent heartbeats https://review.openstack.org/181132 | 00:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure netfilter is enabled for bridges https://review.openstack.org/180867 | 01:14 |
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HenryG | kevinbenton: ping | 01:20 |
kevinbenton | HenryG: pong | 01:20 |
HenryG | kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/173320 | 01:20 |
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HenryG | kevinbenton: I know it's not yours any longer, but do you understand why the bsnstacklib-unittests fail on this? | 01:21 |
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HenryG | Looks like it is pulling partly from trunk and partly from the patch? | 01:22 |
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HenryG | The nec unittest-with-neutron seems to be doing the same | 01:22 |
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kevinbenton | no, it just pulls from the patch | 01:23 |
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HenryG | ok, so the plugin implements get_port_from_device() and needs to be updated? | 01:24 |
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kevinbenton | HenryG: yep | 01:25 |
kevinbenton | HenryG: https://github.com/stackforge/networking-bigswitch/blob/master/bsnstacklib/plugins/bigswitch/plugin.py#L115 | 01:25 |
kevinbenton | HenryG: i will fix it | 01:26 |
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HenryG | kevinbenton: thanks, I'll look for the nec one and submit a patch there | 01:26 |
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kevinbenton | HenryG: here is the bsn fix. pretty simple https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181269/1 | 01:35 |
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HenryG | kevinbenton: You prolly need a "Depends-on:" in the commit msg | 01:36 |
kevinbenton | HenryG: that doesn't actually work right for the way the bsn UTs run | 01:36 |
kevinbenton | HenryG: it will just fail until Dane's patch merges | 01:37 |
HenryG | kevinbenton: ok | 01:37 |
kevinbenton | HenryG: it has @master hard-coded in the test reqs | 01:37 |
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HenryG | kevinbenton: ah yes, vendor repos do that | 01:38 |
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lazy_prince | Hi All, is it possible to run neutron as a standalone service for dev work..? | 01:42 |
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lazy_prince | any pointers will be helpful.. | 01:42 |
HenryG | kevinbenton: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173320/7/neutron/plugins/oneconvergence/plugin.py | 01:44 |
HenryG | oneconvergence plugin is probably using db.get_session() | 01:44 |
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kevinbenton | HenryG: possibly | 01:45 |
* HenryG looks for the repo to check | 01:45 | |
kevinbenton | HenryG: assuming nvsb is some kind of database accessor :) | 01:45 |
* HenryG can't find the repo | 01:45 | |
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kevinbenton | HenryG: but this won't break them either way so it's not a big deal | 01:46 |
HenryG | kevinbenton: agreed | 01:46 |
openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: setup port filters when sg rules change https://review.openstack.org/181272 | 01:49 |
HenryG | kevinbenton: Actually it's in-tree | 01:50 |
HenryG | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/oneconvergence/lib/nvsd_db.py#L23 | 01:50 |
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HenryG | kevinbenton: looks like Dane missed it | 01:50 |
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HenryG | kevinbenton: The nec fix, https://review.openstack.org/181274 | 01:52 |
kevinbenton | HenryG: looks good :) | 01:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Allow users to run 'tox -epy34' https://review.openstack.org/181277 | 02:10 |
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jasonsb | i have a dnsmasq question | 02:39 |
jasonsb | i'm doing some tests and was curious what is conventional wisdom with respect to scaling dhcp/dnsmasq | 02:40 |
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openstackgerrit | watanabe isao proposed openstack/neutron: Bug-Fix for unexpected DHCP agent redundant https://review.openstack.org/138659 | 02:44 |
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openstackgerrit | QthCN proposed openstack/neutron: _validate_mac_address do not check if it's input is None https://review.openstack.org/181282 | 02:50 |
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HenryG | amotoki: ping | 03:16 |
amotoki | HenryG: pong | 03:18 |
HenryG | amotoki: https://review.openstack.org/181274 | 03:18 |
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amotoki | HenryG: oh, thanks. Last and this weeks are holiday weeks in japan and i am just back to the office today. | 03:19 |
openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Allow users to run 'tox -epy34' https://review.openstack.org/181277 | 03:22 |
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openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Add conntrack-tool to manage security group https://review.openstack.org/147713 | 03:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Block subnet create when a network hosts subnets allocated from different pools https://review.openstack.org/180299 | 04:10 |
openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: Block subnet create when a network hosts subnets allocated from different pools https://review.openstack.org/180299 | 04:10 |
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openstackgerrit | watanabe isao proposed openstack/neutron: Bug-Fix for unexpected DHCP agent redundant https://review.openstack.org/138659 | 04:13 |
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openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Add conntrack-tool to manage security group https://review.openstack.org/147713 | 06:11 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/180879 | 06:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Check for missing network in _bind_devices https://review.openstack.org/181185 | 06:32 |
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openstackgerrit | watanabe isao proposed openstack/neutron: Bug-Fix for unexpected DHCP agent redundant https://review.openstack.org/138659 | 06:55 |
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openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: setup port filters when sg rules change https://review.openstack.org/181272 | 06:59 |
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openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/neutron: Serialize port binding operation with db-access semaphore https://review.openstack.org/181310 | 07:26 |
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hanzhang | kevinbenton: I have address the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181272/, can you help to review it again? | 08:07 |
kevinbenton | hanzhang: can you check out my comments on the bug report? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1452718 | 08:09 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1452718 in neutron "Create sg rule or delete sg rule, iptalbes can't be reload" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to shihanzhang (shihanzhang) | 08:09 |
hanzhang | ok, let me check | 08:09 |
kevinbenton | hanzhang: i don't understand what the failure scenario is | 08:10 |
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hanzhang | kevinbenton: I have reply in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1452718 | 08:19 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1452718 in neutron "Create sg rule or delete sg rule, iptalbes can't be reload" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to shihanzhang (shihanzhang) | 08:19 |
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kevinbenton | hanzhang: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_security_groups_basic_ops.py#L359 does exactly what you said | 08:33 |
kevinbenton | hanzhang: right? | 08:33 |
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kevinbenton | hanzhang: i ask because i'm concerned that the tempest tests aren't providing the coverage we think | 08:44 |
hanzhang | kevinbenton:yes, let me check why this https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_security_groups_basic_ops.py#L359 pass | 08:44 |
kevinbenton | hanzhang: thank you | 08:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Limit router gw ports' stateful fixed IPs to one per address family https://review.openstack.org/167784 | 10:18 |
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openstackgerrit | shihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Send 'security_groups_member_updated' when port'ip changes https://review.openstack.org/177159 | 10:33 |
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gsagie_ | I am running a 2 nodes setup with devstack, when the controller is up everything works fine, when i start the compute node ./stach.sh after it goes up i suddenly can't access the API in the controller, for example when i try to do "neutron port-list" i get a message like this "Couldn't find Networking in Region One..." (something like that) | 10:41 |
gsagie_ | anyone noticed something similar? | 10:41 |
moshele | gsagie_: I haven't seen this but if you post your local.conf in controller and compute I will compare it with mine | 10:47 |
gsagie_ | its not the local.conf, because the same configuration worked for me before, i just pulled the code so i guess it something new that got into keystone | 10:48 |
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moshele | gsagie_: so maybe you can change the branches to kilo and only neutron will be master? | 10:50 |
gsagie_ | moshele: yeah will try that, was hoping someone will have magic solution for me before trying that :), but i guess i will just do that, thanks! | 10:51 |
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moshele | gsagie_: :) | 10:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define IptablesNatDriver stateful nat driver https://review.openstack.org/181168 | 11:19 |
openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Stateless nat: tc library https://review.openstack.org/177245 | 11:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Belous proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor checks for device existence https://review.openstack.org/147554 | 11:26 |
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jsheeren | hey | 11:30 |
jsheeren | i have a question about live migration | 11:31 |
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jsheeren | we are experiencing a networking issue: when i start an instance and assign a floating ip, i can reach the instance just fine | 11:31 |
jsheeren | when i start a live migration, the instance becomes unreachable | 11:31 |
jsheeren | when i do a tcpdump, i can see that the ping requests are still being received by the old compute node, instead of the new compute node | 11:32 |
jsheeren | has anyone experienced this before? | 11:32 |
jsheeren | am i right to assume that the arp cache does not get updated? | 11:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Sridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/neutron: Fix typos related to IPv6 use-cases https://review.openstack.org/175009 | 13:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define IptablesNatDriver stateful nat driver https://review.openstack.org/181168 | 13:24 |
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pc_m | mestery: ping | 13:24 |
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mestery | pc_m: good morning! | 13:25 |
pc_m | mestery: Happy Friday! | 13:25 |
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pc_m | mestery: Can you help me get driver cores to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168115? This is to improve functional tests to no longer spin up devstack. | 13:26 |
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pc_m | mestery: Want to get this in place, so that the functional tests that are being created will use the new mechanism. | 13:27 |
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mestery | pc_m: I'll see what I can do, I know folks have been busy with summit prep too | 13:28 |
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pc_m | mestery: Thanks! | 13:29 |
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gsagie_ | pc_m: your link is wrong | 13:30 |
gsagie_ | sorry my bad | 13:30 |
pc_m | mestery: Would like to chat with you some time, either at the summit or before, about Neutron work. There's not much left in VPN area (some testing of StrongSwan, some vendor things). | 13:31 |
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mestery | pc_m: Ack on that | 13:35 |
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sc68cal | SridharG: sorry for the review, but the more I read that paragraph the more I didn't like it as it is today | 13:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Sridhar Gaddam proposed openstack/neutron: Fix typos related to IPv6 use-cases https://review.openstack.org/175009 | 13:47 |
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SridharG | sc68cal: np :-) | 13:49 |
SridharG | sc68cal: its always good to see review comments, rather than having a patch in the same state forever. | 13:50 |
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mennie | Good morning, I was wondering if anyone knows if Brocade ADX really do VXLAN / VTEP ? | 14:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Baodong (Robert) Li proposed openstack/neutron: Add VIF_DELETED notification event to Nova https://review.openstack.org/178666 | 15:17 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/180598 | 15:18 |
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jasonsb | i have a dnsmasq question if anybody is up for it | 15:25 |
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jasonsb | 5 compute node, 1 controller node, running tempest server-basic-ops in parallel | 15:26 |
jasonsb | works great up to about 30. by 60 fully half are failing | 15:26 |
jasonsb | looks like a race between nova launch time vs neutron dhcp service being able to create the netns and get dnsmasq started up | 15:27 |
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jasonsb | is this something handled by operational finesse, or is this a race which should be handled better? | 15:27 |
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haleyb | jasonsb: what version of openstack? There was a recent change to dhcp startup that helped here, had to do with logging entries inside a loop, don't have the bug # offhand | 15:37 |
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jasonsb | haleyb: ubuntu juno | 15:37 |
amuller | jasonsb: there's a known race there though | 15:37 |
jasonsb | i hand patched in 1382064 | 15:38 |
amuller | jasonsb: nova is notified when the neutron port is plugged, but the DHCP agent is not guaranteed to have added the entry to the dnsmasq hosts file in time | 15:38 |
jasonsb | and 1385257 and i also reported new bug 1451492 | 15:38 |
openstack | bug 1451492 in neutron "DELETE /v2.0/ports/uuid.json causes SQL error in log" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451492 - Assigned to Eugene Nikanorov (enikanorov) | 15:38 |
jasonsb | amuller: yes, that sounds like it | 15:39 |
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jasonsb | amuller: is this solved by running dhcp service in a bunch of places? or is race looking to be fixed? | 15:39 |
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jasonsb | haleyb: if you have bug# i would like to take a look | 15:41 |
amuller | jasonsb: I'm not aware of anyone actively working to fix that race at this time | 15:42 |
haleyb | jasonsb: just found it, 1445202 | 15:42 |
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amuller | jasonsb: I don't think we even have an open bug on it *hint hint* | 15:42 |
jasonsb | amuller: i got it. let me see what i can do operationally. seems its a tricky thing getting everything to balance out | 15:43 |
jasonsb | haleyb: thanks, looking at bug now | 15:44 |
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haleyb | jasonsb: i can't remember why it was abandoned, but you could check the code in stable/juno | 15:44 |
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jasonsb | amuller: happy to file a bug | 15:45 |
haleyb | jasonsb: check bug 1414218, it is in stable/juno now | 15:46 |
openstack | bug 1414218 in neutron juno "Remove extraneous trace in linux/dhcp.py" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1414218 - Assigned to Stephen Ma (stephen-ma) | 15:46 |
amuller | jasonsb: sounds good | 15:46 |
jasonsb | amuller: since its tempest its easy to explain how to reproduce | 15:46 |
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jasonsb | amuller: maybe i can add one small comment. i think it would be nice to have a home for tempest tests which can apply some real world load and verify good behavior | 15:52 |
jasonsb | if anybody has opinion on matter maybe could comment in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-ops-user-committee | 15:53 |
amuller | jasonsb: Sounds like Rally | 15:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: IPAM reference driver https://review.openstack.org/150485 | 15:53 |
jasonsb | amuller: yes. rally + ci | 15:54 |
jasonsb | amuller: but developer centric audience | 15:54 |
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sc68cal | baoli_: If you get a chance, can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181435/ ? | 16:01 |
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sc68cal | I made some changes to the table for the ipv6 attr combos since I think the original combos in the spec were specifying behaviors that may or may not be how they get implemented | 16:01 |
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jasonsb | amuller: i found bug 1334447 | 16:08 |
openstack | bug 1334447 in Ironic "Potential race between neutron port update and node pxe boot" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1334447 | 16:08 |
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jasonsb | amuller: reported in context of ironic, but same scenario i think. should i file new and reference this? | 16:08 |
openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Implement IPAM Driver loader https://review.openstack.org/147479 | 16:08 |
amuller | jasonsb: yeah we should have a general bug about this | 16:08 |
jasonsb | amuller: nod | 16:09 |
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yamahata | salv-orlando: ping? can you please remove -2 from the spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105078/ | 17:15 |
yamahata | salv-orlando: I'd like to revive it for Liberty | 17:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define TcNatDriver stateless nat driver https://review.openstack.org/177245 | 17:27 |
openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Use stevedore to load nat driver https://review.openstack.org/181471 | 17:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Clean only floating-ip related connection states https://review.openstack.org/180765 | 17:29 |
openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define IptablesNatDriver stateful nat driver https://review.openstack.org/181168 | 17:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Define TcNatDriver stateless nat driver https://review.openstack.org/177245 | 17:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: L2 agent RPC add new RPC calls https://review.openstack.org/147435 | 17:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Use stevedore to load nat driver https://review.openstack.org/181471 | 17:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Centralized register_OVS_agent in tests https://review.openstack.org/178789 | 18:29 |
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amuller | ZZelle: -1 on that patch? | 18:37 |
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ZZelle | amuller, hi, -1? | 18:37 |
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amuller | ZZelle: That's what it says | 18:37 |
ZZelle | amuller, oups | 18:38 |
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ZZelle | amuller, corrected | 18:38 |
amuller | ZZelle: Thanks | 18:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Lynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Provide snat dvr host name during FIP association with unbound port https://review.openstack.org/179439 | 18:39 |
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Sukhdev | Does anybody know of any bug that made into stable/kilo which prevents deleting an interface from router. See the error - http://paste.openstack.org/show/217317/ | 18:51 |
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shaggycat | mestery, hi! I resolve my problem | 19:10 |
mestery | shaggycat: great! What was it? | 19:10 |
shaggycat | mestery, it is probably bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174864 | 19:10 |
openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1174864 in openvswitch "No connectivity when Launching an instance with Openvswitch interface when using SR-IOV" [Medium,New] - Assigned to jbenc | 19:10 |
shaggycat | I added ovs_use_veth = True in dhcp and l3 | 19:11 |
mestery | nice | 19:11 |
shaggycat | and this fix problem | 19:11 |
amuller | Sukhdev: looks like it's an arista specific issue? | 19:11 |
shaggycat | with this options, | 19:12 |
Sukhdev | amuller: You may be right, but gives it? | 19:12 |
shaggycat | openvswitch get up all ports | 19:12 |
amuller | Sukhdev: What's that? | 19:12 |
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Sukhdev | amuller: I mean - how did you figure that it is Arista specific? | 19:13 |
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Sukhdev | amuller: Most likely you may be right, but, I curious…. | 19:13 |
amuller | Sukhdev: well, from the trace "neutron.services.l3_router.l3_arista.AristaL3ServicePlugin method remove_router_interface called with..." | 19:13 |
amuller | Sukhdev: looks to me like a method in l3_db signature was changed and the arista code was not updated to reflect that | 19:14 |
Sukhdev | amuller: oh really? I did not know that | 19:15 |
Sukhdev | amuller: do you know what was changed? | 19:15 |
amuller | Sukhdev: from the trace, _validate_interface_info | 19:15 |
amuller | in l3_db.py | 19:15 |
Sukhdev | amuller: Thanks for pointing it out - let me check | 19:16 |
openstackgerrit | Lynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Provide snat dvr host name during FIP association with unbound port https://review.openstack.org/179439 | 19:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Extenuate register_dhcp_agent code duplication in tests https://review.openstack.org/179517 | 19:26 |
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Sukhdev | amuller: Do you happen to have a link to the patch which made the change? | 19:26 |
amuller | Sukhdev: no but you can git blame the module and see | 19:27 |
Sukhdev | amuller: OK - thanks | 19:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Dane LeBlanc proposed openstack/neutron: Stop sending gratuitous arp when ip version is 6 https://review.openstack.org/160799 | 20:10 |
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Sukhdev | amuller_afk: hey | 20:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Dane LeBlanc proposed openstack/neutron: Stop sending gratuitous arp when ip version is 6 https://review.openstack.org/160799 | 20:22 |
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Sukhdev | salv-orlando: Ping | 20:28 |
salv-orlando | aloha Sukhdev | 20:34 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: what is the proper response to aloha - mahalo? | 20:35 |
salv-orlando | I don't know. I am ignorant. My knowledge begins and ends with 'aloha' | 20:36 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: ha ha - that makes two of us :-) | 20:36 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: Since you are a router expert - wanted to ask you a quick question - | 20:36 |
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salv-orlando | Sukhdev: I just told you my knowledge begins and ends with aloha. So I know nothing | 20:37 |
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salv-orlando | unless you want to talk about collision protocols | 20:37 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: ha ha funny!! | 20:37 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: I can see you are in weekend mode :-) | 20:38 |
salv-orlando | 22:38 pm on a friday is weekend, isn't it? | 20:39 |
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Sukhdev | salv-orlando: very much so - and chilled beer makes it more fun | 20:39 |
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Sukhdev | salv-orlando: On a serious note - take a look at http://paste.openstack.org/show/217317/ | 20:41 |
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Sukhdev | salv-orlando: I see this failure, when I look at the code, it is a pass through code, hence, am confused why would it crap out? | 20:42 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: this BTW is stable/kilo | 20:42 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: BTW, I feel bad to be asking you this on this hour - feel free to ignore. | 20:44 |
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salv-orlando | Sukhdev: np looking at it | 20:51 |
salv-orlando | Sukhdev: ./neutron/services/l3_router/l3_arista.py:282: def _validate_interface_info(self, interface_info): | 20:53 |
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salv-orlando | seems like the arista svc plugin overrides it, but has not been updated to include the for_removal parameter. | 20:53 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: sorry - did not get it - let me pull up the code | 20:55 |
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Sukhdev | salv-orlando: Yup that is it - I did not realize that I had a local method which was overriding it | 20:58 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: Yes, that is it….thanks for pointing it out | 20:59 |
salv-orlando | Sukhdev: wierd problems often have the most obvious solutions. You only need somebody else's eyes to find them out | 20:59 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: so right…..it happens | 20:59 |
Sukhdev | salv-orlando: your next beer is on me - | 21:00 |
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salv-orlando | Sukhdev: thanks | 21:00 |
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hitalia | Hi, I have question about devstack configuraitons realted to neutron. is there any way to tell devstack (localrc) to not configure default networks, subnets & router? | 21:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add Dynamic Multipoint VPN to Neutron VPNaaS https://review.openstack.org/181563 | 21:24 |
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botang | I'm investigating neutron firewall internal mechanisms. It seems that the enforcement of the firewall policy is not in iptables. I wonder where the enforcement is taking place. Thanks! | 21:46 |
openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Always use BridgeDevice to manage linuxbridges https://review.openstack.org/181569 | 21:46 |
openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Always use BridgeDevice to manage linuxbridges https://review.openstack.org/181569 | 21:47 |
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flashgordon | top gate bug is brought to you by Neutron and http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/#1403291 | 21:48 |
flashgordon | mestery salv-orlando marun ^ | 21:49 |
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marun | flashgordon: why does it say 'fix released'? | 21:55 |
flashgordon | marun: *shrug* bug I 'fixed' that | 21:57 |
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botang | Anyone can help? | 21:58 |
marun | flashgordon: maybe it's time to implement dhcping and not let nova boot the vm if we can't verify dhcp is working | 21:59 |
marun | armax: ^ | 21:59 |
marun | flashgordon: it doesn't fix the problem in question, but at least the failure mode can be clear | 22:00 |
flashgordon | marun: ++ to better failure modes | 22:00 |
armax | marun: it looks like something slipped in that broke dhcp | 22:01 |
marun | armax: the question is, are we going to learn our lesson and stop booting vm's that won't be able to get an ip? | 22:02 |
marun | armax: or kick the can down the road by fixing the failure but not its detection? | 22:02 |
armax | marun: the reasons can be multiple, that bug is sort of a ‘catch-all’ bug report | 22:02 |
marun | armax: agreed | 22:03 |
armax | marun: agreed, but that’s orthogonal, this looks like a regression | 22:03 |
marun | armax: But isn't the reason it's a catch-all because there are a bunch of things that could prevent dhcp from working? | 22:03 |
flashgordon | marun: yeah, its a catch all because we have trouble pointing to anything more specific | 22:04 |
marun | armax: I'm not sure why we want to continue letting nova be our canary on this class of failure. | 22:04 |
flashgordon | we don't even fingerprint on neutron logs because they are not helpful here | 22:04 |
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armax | marun: if the vm doesn’t get a dhcp address it could be for all sorts of reasons | 22:05 |
* flashgordon doesn't want to be a canary, he knows what happens to them | 22:05 | |
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armax | marun: we could prevent nova from booting a vm in case dhcp is not ready | 22:05 |
marun | armax: and fail with an appropriate error message | 22:05 |
marun | armax: that way we separate nova failure from neutron failure (in most cases anyway) | 22:05 |
armax | marun: but that won’t help if the data plane is broken | 22:05 |
amuller | armax: marun: Let's nail down a design in the summit | 22:05 |
amuller | and I can code it up | 22:05 |
amuller | and you two can merge it :) | 22:06 |
armax | we can’t test the data plane sanity before the vm boot | 22:06 |
marun | armax: really? | 22:06 |
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amuller | there's a lot of different ways to go about this | 22:06 |
marun | armax: I'm not sure I understand that statement. | 22:06 |
marun | armax: If this isn't a good place for a health check, what is? | 22:06 |
armax | what I mean is that unless you probe the VM’s interface, once it’s created how are you supposed to see whether packets can go back and forth? | 22:07 |
marun | armax: why wouldn't we want to probe the vm's interface (at least where it plugs into the ovs or lb) | 22:08 |
marun | ? | 22:08 |
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armax | so long as that can be done before the vm boots, sure | 22:08 |
armax | then it’s doable | 22:09 |
marun | armax: since the vm won't boot until neutron tells nova the port is wired, we have a short window to do whatever is necessary | 22:09 |
armax | that would definitely help in pinpointing a data plane breakage | 22:10 |
armax | and catch an issue much earlier in the workflow | 22:11 |
marun | armax: we've been talking about it for what seems like years. Here's to harnessing amuller to finally implement something! | 22:11 |
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armax | amuller: that requires both nova and neutron changes | 22:11 |
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marun | did I miss something? | 22:12 |
armax | that would alter the failure modes to make our troubleshooting life easier | 22:12 |
marun | what requires nova and neutron changes? | 22:12 |
armax | but the fact remains that we regressed for god knows why :) | 22:12 |
armax | marun: preventing nova boot if dhcp is not sane | 22:12 |
marun | why would that require nova change? | 22:13 |
amuller | armax: why not piggy back on the existing notification sent out? | 22:13 |
marun | if dhcp is enabled for a subnet, we don't indicate the port is wired until we see dhcp is working | 22:13 |
Swami | armax: is that not an odd behavior to stop a compute if dhcp is not working | 22:14 |
armax | amuller: that’s an option but I remember talking with kevinbenton about this whilst we were looking at this very bug… | 22:14 |
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amuller | yeah marun and I had conversations with kevinbenton about this as well | 22:15 |
armax | and I have a faint recollection of the fact that just altering the neutron port creation logic does not suffice | 22:15 |
armax | but I might be wrong | 22:15 |
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amuller | anyhoo I'm tired and gonna head off. I'd love to take this on but there's a lot of details to go through, I'm hoping to decide on this stuff in the summit | 22:15 |
amuller | like do we wanna do it per agent (ovs, lb, others) | 22:15 |
amuller | or maybe the dhcp agent can notify instead | 22:16 |
amuller | which would be more generic but more complicated probably | 22:16 |
armax | amuller: we need to sort out the async nature of dhcp port creation between the agent and the server | 22:16 |
amuller | didn't kevinbenton change that so that the port is created when a dhcp subnet is created? | 22:16 |
armax | and the fact that we need to coordinate compute ports and the dhcp port creations | 22:17 |
armax | amuller: that narrows down the race window but it doesn’t kill it altogether | 22:17 |
amuller | I know | 22:17 |
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armax | amuller: let’s make a note of this, in the meantime who is triaging the gate? | 22:17 |
armax | as flashgordon pointed out? | 22:18 |
amuller | *crickets* | 22:18 |
armax | flashgordon: do you have a run I could look at? | 22:18 |
HenryG | armax: I didn't look at the error, but looked at the commit log ... | 22:19 |
armax | HenryG: and? | 22:19 |
HenryG | armax: I90b4d2485e3e491f496dfb7bdee03d57f393be35 maybe? | 22:20 |
flashgordon | armax: you can find one yourself I will show you how | 22:20 |
flashgordon | armax: click the logstash link under http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1403291 | 22:20 |
armax | flashgordon: if I look at the logstash qeury associated to the bug, I only get a handful errors, so prolly not the same | 22:21 |
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flashgordon | that pulls up all the hits in lostash | 22:21 |
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flashgordon | then click on one of the errors and look for the log_url | 22:21 |
flashgordon | armax: if the query is not finding that bug then we should fix the query | 22:21 |
armax | flashgordon: yeah that’s what I am thining | 22:22 |
armax | thinking | 22:22 |
armax | flashgordon: there must be something wrong about the fingerprint | 22:22 |
armax | the logstash query associated to the bug is way too generic | 22:22 |
flashgordon | armax: that fingerprint only hits on neutron | 22:22 |
flashgordon | that is because we have no better log line to use | 22:23 |
armax | flashgordon: I am not saying that this isn’t neutron’s fault | 22:23 |
flashgordon | find me a better one | 22:23 |
armax | flashgordon: but message:"AssertionError: False is not true : Timed out waiting for" AND message:"to become reachable" AND tags:"console" | 22:23 |
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armax | flashgordon: is a catch-all query | 22:23 |
flashgordon | armax: yes its generic but its catching a neutron bug | 22:23 |
armax | flashgordon: that is impossible to root cause to dhcp | 22:23 |
armax | flashgordon: besides, the problem isn’t neutron per se here…but Tempest | 22:23 |
flashgordon | and what appears to be a single bug | 22:23 |
armax | flashgordon: which the way it’s configured won’t let us validate connectivity to the private address | 22:24 |
armax | first | 22:24 |
kevinbenton | so this could actually just be an iptables error? | 22:24 |
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armax | flashgordon: so this catch-all might capture l3 connectivity issue | 22:24 |
armax | kevinbenton: looking | 22:24 |
flashgordon | mtreinish: ^ | 22:24 |
kevinbenton | armax: i saw this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181272/ but he wasn't able to narrow down how it fails | 22:25 |
armax | flashgordon: in fact here: | 22:25 |
armax | flashgordon: http://logs.openstack.org/79/180879/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/7b486a6/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 22:25 |
kevinbenton | armax: maybe we should propose a conntrack zones revert... | 22:25 |
armax | flashgordon: dhcp works just fine | 22:25 |
mtreinish | armax: are you talking about the failure to ping? | 22:25 |
armax | flashgordon: so dhcp has nothing to do with it | 22:26 |
armax | mtreinish: yes | 22:26 |
mtreinish | armax: how is it a problem in tempest problem that the ip returned isn't reachable? | 22:26 |
armax | mtreinish: do you know if all connectivity tests validate the access to the instance’s fixed ip? | 22:27 |
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armax | as far as I was able to tell looking at tempest most of the tests go straight to checking the connectivity to the FIP | 22:29 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Update the specs process for Liberty https://review.openstack.org/177342 | 22:29 |
mtreinish | armax: hmm, well the implication I think is that the tempest may not necessarily have access to the fixed ip | 22:29 |
armax | mtreinish: that’s right! | 22:30 |
armax | this is what I mentioned with flashgordon | 22:30 |
mtreinish | armax: but how is that tempest's problem. If you tell it you need to use a fip to access the vm, there's nothing else it can do | 22:30 |
mtreinish | because you're telling tempest the fixed ip won't be reachable directly | 22:31 |
kevinbenton | i need to step away for a bit, but based on the timing i strongly suspect this is caused by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118274/ | 22:31 |
armax | mtreinish: it’s not tempest’s fault | 22:31 |
armax | per se | 22:31 |
Swami | mtreinish: can't the tempest test get into the dhcp namespace to ping the vm and see if the private ip is available and valid | 22:31 |
flashgordon | so I think this is missing the point a bit | 22:32 |
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armax | but if the test box can’t reach the private ip space for the instance, we’re only left with detecting connectivity issues via L3 and then backtracing if something goes wrong | 22:32 |
flashgordon | if a user hits some issue like this it should be debuggable | 22:32 |
mtreinish | Swami: that's making an assumption about where tempest is in the network. | 22:32 |
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armax | flashgordon: and it is, to some degree | 22:32 |
mtreinish | Swami: what armax said | 22:32 |
flashgordon | and that ideally would mean neutron would emit clear information to make that possible | 22:32 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: lb-agent: ensure tap mtu is the same as physical device https://review.openstack.org/174558 | 22:32 |
armax | all I am saying is that the automatic detection may be harder to do | 22:32 |
flashgordon | yes that isn't always possible, but we are far from that limit today | 22:32 |
flashgordon | armax: so moving forward with this bug | 22:33 |
armax | flashgordon: neutron emits a wealth of information, probably too much :) | 22:33 |
armax | flashgordon: it’s a matter of knowing what to look for | 22:33 |
flashgordon | armax: do you think there is something we can do to make the fingerprint closer to the root cause? | 22:33 |
flashgordon | armax: and secondly how do we make this bug go away? | 22:33 |
armax | flashgordon: aye, we should strive too | 22:33 |
armax | flashgordon: perhaps we shuould change the fingerprint to look at the neutron logs instead of console.html | 22:35 |
armax | flashgordon: can that be done? | 22:35 |
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flashgordon | armax: patches welcome | 22:35 |
flashgordon | armax: if you find a log I can turn it into a query | 22:35 |
flashgordon | so far we haven't been able to find anything though | 22:35 |
armax | flashgordon: ok, forgive my ignorance…can the query be written to check for the lack of a specific string? | 22:36 |
flashgordon | armax: great question, no! | 22:36 |
flashgordon | it has to be a single line in a log file | 22:36 |
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flashgordon | armax: have to step out for a bit time to relocate | 22:37 |
armax | flashgordon: for instance we could pinpoint dhcp issues if log traces don’t have the string: Lease of <your-ip> obtained, lease time 86400 | 22:37 |
armax | flashgordon: I struggled to figure how to do that with logstash | 22:37 |
flashgordon | armax: yeah we cannot fingerprint on a line not being there | 22:37 |
armax | :) | 22:37 |
armax | see? | 22:37 |
armax | that’s logstash fault then :) | 22:38 |
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armax | seriously though perhaps we could get hold of the vm console output | 22:38 |
armax | and grep for the string | 22:38 |
mtreinish | armax: tempest should try to log that | 22:38 |
mtreinish | oh, wait thats on ssh failure | 22:38 |
mtreinish | not ping failure | 22:38 |
mtreinish | maybe? | 22:39 |
armax | mtreinish: yes | 22:39 |
armax | perhaps we can readd post-error processing of the vm console output just to figure out whether the vm got the IP? | 22:39 |
armax | or was able to access the metadata server? | 22:40 |
armax | and spit out an error that’s more specific than timeout error? | 22:40 |
mtreinish | armax: if it's a mysql job it uses config drive always | 22:40 |
mtreinish | only on the postgres jobs does it use the metadata service | 22:40 |
armax | and then have logstash fingerprint on the new more specific errrors? | 22:40 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Remove use of contextlib.nested https://review.openstack.org/167677 | 22:40 |
armax | mtreinish: understood | 22:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Remove from BridgeDevice homemade execute in namespace https://review.openstack.org/181583 | 23:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Kill hostname validation for subnet:dns_nameservers https://review.openstack.org/168886 | 23:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add capability to wait for IPv6 address in ip_lib https://review.openstack.org/180367 | 23:13 |
kevinbenton | haleyb: ^^ | 23:13 |
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flashgordon | back | 23:15 |
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flashgordon | armax: happy hunting | 23:18 |
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kevinbenton | flashgordon: is there a way to have a wildcard in a logstash query? | 23:25 |
flashgordon | kevinbenton: yes, if you want to search for a string, its usually easier just to search for two strings | 23:25 |
flashgordon | message:"big error" AND message:"stacktrace 500" | 23:26 |
flashgordon | as long as the line you are looking for is big error as seen here: stacktrace 500" | 23:26 |
flashgordon | or something | 23:26 |
openstackgerrit | Lynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Provide snat dvr host name during FIP association with unbound port https://review.openstack.org/179439 | 23:29 |
kevinbenton | flashgordon: i'm trying to search for PHYSIN=qvbfa53f4c4-99 | 23:29 |
kevinbenton | flashgordon: except not the whole thing | 23:29 |
kevinbenton | :) | 23:29 |
kevinbenton | just PHYSIN=qvb | 23:30 |
kevinbenton | so anything that starts with that | 23:30 |
kevinbenton | it seems like logstash is only matching whole words | 23:30 |
flashgordon | yup | 23:30 |
flashgordon | there is a trick one moment | 23:30 |
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flashgordon | trying to remember what it is | 23:32 |
flashgordon | mtreinish: may remember | 23:32 |
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mtreinish | flashgordon: there is wild card support, but I don't remember it off the top of my head | 23:38 |
mtreinish | IIRC it's kinda expensive to use | 23:38 |
mtreinish | I normally just AND to words together (they have to space separate IIRC) so I avoid the unique bit | 23:39 |
mtreinish | i guess if it's physin=xxxxxxxxx-xx that won't work | 23:39 |
kevinbenton | mtreinish: right | 23:39 |
flashgordon | kevinbenton: no luck finding a query on my end | 23:39 |
kevinbenton | mtreinish: we don't have to submit it as an ER query | 23:40 |
kevinbenton | so even if it's expensive i just want to confirm | 23:40 |
mtreinish | kevinbenton: I'd have to look up how to do it in the elastic search docs | 23:40 |
mtreinish | I don't know how to do it off the top of my head | 23:40 |
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flashgordon | kevinbenton: try message:"PHYSIN" AND message:qvb* | 23:40 |
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kevinbenton | flashgordon: looks promising | 23:42 |
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kevinbenton | well i have determined that bots are trying to telnet into instances occasionally, but that's not helpful :) | 23:49 |
kevinbenton | iptables dropped: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=fa:16:3e:ab:63:d7:fa:16:3e:d2:ec:ba:08:00 SRC=62.183.86.91 DST=10.0.3.220 LEN=60 TOS=0x08 PREC=0x20 TTL=50 ID=62727 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=57166 DPT=23 WINDOW=5808 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 | 23:50 |
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