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| openstackgerrit | Hosung Hwang proposed openstack/neutron: Add Pluggable IPAM Backend https://review.openstack.org/183099 | 00:39 |
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| enikanorov_ | mestery: hi Kyle. I see lots of feature proposals filed as bugs | 00:42 |
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| enikanorov_ | mestery: are we abandoning blueprints? | 00:43 |
| mestery | enikanorov_: Ack, yes. | 00:43 |
| mestery | enikanorov_: Nope, but we're allowing for feature requests | 00:43 |
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| mestery | For people who don't or can't file specs | 00:43 |
| mestery | enikanorov_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177342/ | 00:43 |
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| enikanorov_ | I'm thinking about how to prioritize them | 00:45 |
| mestery | enikanorov_: For now, just leave them blank, we'll do that at the drivers meeting tomorrow. | 00:45 |
| enikanorov_ | mestery: I guess such bugs should have 'wishlist' importance | 00:45 |
| mestery | enikanorov_: Yeah | 00:45 |
| mestery | wishlist makes sense for now | 00:45 |
| mestery | If it turns out it becomes something, we can change it later | 00:45 |
| enikanorov_ | mestery: i'm concerned about the status though. I dont like when amount of 'new' bugs is increasing | 00:45 |
| enikanorov_ | so i'm going to make them as 'Confirmed' then | 00:46 |
| mestery | enikanorov_: I was going to suggest either that or Triaged | 00:46 |
| mestery | Confirmed is fine though | 00:46 |
| enikanorov_ | ok, thanks | 00:46 |
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| mestery | enikanorov_: Thank you! | 00:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/182746 | 01:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce the Lieutenant system into Neutron https://review.openstack.org/178846 | 01:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | berlin proposed openstack/neutron: DB changes for multi context edge life cycle mgmt https://review.openstack.org/185539 | 02:33 |
| openstackgerrit | berlin proposed openstack/neutron: Add necessary conf parameters for multi support https://review.openstack.org/185826 | 02:33 |
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| jacer | hi | 03:16 |
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| norman | Hi all, anyone can give me some clue that why IP address was not injected into the VM? | 03:20 |
| norman | I have a controller + compute node env ,and create a private vlan with 192.168.1.0/24 | 03:20 |
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| norman | and create an cirros vm | 03:21 |
| norman | from the nova list, I saw that the IP was allocated, anyway, when I vnc to the VM from horizion , there is no IP address in the VM instance | 03:21 |
| xavpaice | sounds like the metadata agent isn't running | 03:22 |
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| norman | ok ,I check it now | 03:22 |
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| norman | xavpaice: agent is there ,since it shows in ps -ef|grep meta on controller, I will restart it again | 03:24 |
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| jacer | you can config ip in vm manually and ping gateway | 03:31 |
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| jacer | if ping timeout，you should check your network | 03:32 |
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| xavpaice | can also test metadata agent from inside instance by curl http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/instance-id | 03:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Shorten the spec template greatly. https://review.openstack.org/182905 | 03:32 |
| norman | jacer: appreciated, is doing that | 03:32 |
| norman | xavpaice: is the 'http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04' common URL? | 03:33 |
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| xavpaice | it's the url that cloud-init will be attempting to reach. | 03:35 |
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| norman | thanks all, seems that I can't ping 192.168.1.1 | 03:40 |
| norman | and when tcpdump on br-int on compute ,I can get the 'who has 192.168.1.1 ,please tell {my instance ip)' | 03:41 |
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| jamespd | norman: pinging 192.168.1.1 shouldn't be a requirement for the metadata service, although it does suggest that you have a layer 2 issue between your compute and network hosts. | 03:49 |
| norman | jamespd: where is the 192.168.1.1 on ? I saw the 192.168.1.2 in the qdhcp-xxx netns, but where is the 192.168.1.1 ? | 03:50 |
| jamespd | you should have a qrouter-XXX namespace on your network node. | 03:51 |
| jamespd | and you should be able to tcpdump inside that namespace | 03:51 |
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| jamespd | ip netns exec qrouter-XXX tcpdump -lni any | 03:51 |
| jamespd | and if you don't see the ARP traffic, then you have some L2 issue. | 03:52 |
| jamespd | if you don't have the namespace, then you have an L3 agent issue. | 03:52 |
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| norman | jamespd: I did not create the router, so there is no qrouter-xxx, it's not required. right? | 03:55 |
| jamespd | the metadata service is contacted via a proxy process inside a router. | 03:56 |
| jamespd | If you have no router, the metadata service won't work. | 03:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/neutron: Move windows requirements to requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/185739 | 03:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hosung Hwang proposed openstack/neutron: Add Pluggable IPAM Backend https://review.openstack.org/183099 | 03:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Hosung Hwang proposed openstack/neutron: Enable pluggable IPAM implementation by default https://review.openstack.org/181023 | 03:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Dorman proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Network IP Usage Extension API https://review.openstack.org/180803 | 04:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Assign external_ip based on ip version of peer_address https://review.openstack.org/181842 | 04:57 |
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| trinaths | Hi, Good Morning all, | 04:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Persist DHCP leases to a local database https://review.openstack.org/185486 | 04:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not assume order of get_sync_data_metering response elements https://review.openstack.org/185763 | 06:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Use 1st SNAT DVR host name for FIP assoc w/unbound https://review.openstack.org/179439 | 06:45 |
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| hanzhang | hi all, who can help to review this patch:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177159/ | 06:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add availability_zone support https://review.openstack.org/169612 | 06:49 |
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| kevinbenton | moshele: ping | 07:46 |
| moshele | kevinbenton: hi | 07:47 |
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| kevinbenton | moshele: hey, can you check out my comment on the dhcp patch? | 07:47 |
| kevinbenton | moshele: assuming you are Moshe Levi of course :) | 07:48 |
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| moshele | kevinbenton: yes it me I just a sec I am looking | 07:49 |
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| moshele | kevinbenton: but if you don't put the client-id it will be ignored, no? | 07:52 |
| salv-orl_ | kevinbenton: I like you so much that the fist thing I did in the morning has been a review of your lease file patch | 07:53 |
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| kevinbenton | moshele: the way it is now with the *, the client does a renewal and then dnsmasq ACKs and updates the lease with the new client ID | 07:53 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: reading your comments now! | 07:56 |
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| moshele | kevinbenton: I see your point now | 07:56 |
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| kevinbenton | moshele: yeah, i just want to have the bare minimum logic required in this function rather than try to rebuild exactly what dnsmasq will do | 07:57 |
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| moshele | kevinbenton: ok, understood | 07:58 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: on a reboot, do clients usually try to renew their old lease? | 08:00 |
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| salv-orl_ | kevinbenton: on a rebbot a client does not know it has a lease, or at least you cannot know how a client behaves | 08:14 |
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| salv-orl_ | some clinet might store lease info locally, some couldn't. also, some might not trust their own clocks so they won't know if a cacheed lease is actually expired or not | 08:15 |
| salv-orl_ | just saying, because I don 't think there is a strict rfc for DHCP client behaviour, so there's no standard they are required to implement | 08:16 |
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| salv-orl_ | but if there is, forgive my ignorance and move on | 08:16 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: i think we better stay on the safe side and generate just in case | 08:18 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: i think i'm going to move the generation into the spawn_process method | 08:18 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: because we do only need to do this at startup | 08:19 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: every HUP is excessive | 08:19 |
| salv-orl_ | I think about 8 hours ago you had a case for doing it everytime dnsmasq was reloaded? | 08:19 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: i had a case for every time it was started :) | 08:20 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: vs only if a file didn't exist | 08:20 |
| salv-orl_ | kevinbenton: fine. Just think for a second about this scenario, and let's see if the code with your patch supports it. | 08:22 |
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| salv-orl_ | at startup every agent generates the lease file (persisted) for every dnsmasq | 08:22 |
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| salv-orl_ | then a host is added (new vm or whatever), and the hosts file is updated for all instances of dnsmasq | 08:23 |
| salv-orl_ | every dnsmasq receives a HUP and the hosts file is reloaded. The lease file stays the same because the VM did not ask for a lease (yet) | 08:23 |
| salv-orl_ | the VM then gets a lease. Only one leasefile has it. And unfortunately that dnsmasq instance dies. | 08:24 |
| salv-orl_ | But fear not, it will be rescheduled, and it will get that lease again! | 08:24 |
| salv-orl_ | but unfortunately it is not, because, I don't know... we live in a evil world that does not want dnsmasq anymore | 08:24 |
| kevinbenton | right, on rescheduling a new dnsmasq process will be started | 08:25 |
| salv-orl_ | anyway, how the poor VM behave? will another dnsmasq instance grant it a new lease | 08:25 |
| salv-orl_ | kevinbenton: so my question is: what if there is no reschedule? | 08:25 |
| salv-orl_ | should we ignore and say "though luck"? | 08:25 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: that case is fine, the T2 timer will expire and the client will go into rebinding | 08:26 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: at which point it will broadcast with no server-ID and another server should offer | 08:26 |
| salv-orl_ | kevinbenton: perfect, that is all that I wanted to know. | 08:26 |
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| salv-orl_ | kevinbenton: did you had a chance to check also that thing about if switching from leasefile-ro to leasefile might cause a side-effect with leases for deleted VMs still being there? | 08:27 |
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| salv-orl_ | this should not be an issue, unless one spoofs a MAC ;) | 08:27 |
| salv-orl_ | which, as you know, if perfectly possible | 08:28 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: oh, i do need to do that | 08:28 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: because maybe dnsmasq will complain if there is an active lease | 08:28 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: and then we add a reservation for that same IP with a different mac | 08:28 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: assuming port deleted and another port is added with same IP but different mac in the lifetime of the current lease | 08:29 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: wonderful. the lease is wiped from the db once the reservation is gone | 09:05 |
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| veena | mestery: ping | 09:50 |
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| xavpaice | anyone here able to help me out with writing some unit tests for a tiny patch? | 09:52 |
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| ZZelle_ | xavpaice, hi | 10:06 |
| xavpaice | hey | 10:06 |
| xavpaice | I've been trying to get my head around where to put the tests for _get_router_for_floatingip | 10:07 |
| xavpaice | so far, I've only written very simple test cases, but this one might need a bit more setup to make it fly - is there an example of something similar I can learn off? | 10:08 |
| xavpaice | (regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185517/) | 10:08 |
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| ZZelle_ | xavpaice, sadly they are no real unittest for the method, only api tests | 10:16 |
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| ZZelle_ | xavpaice, you will need to create neutron/tests/unit/db/test_l3_db.py | 10:18 |
| xavpaice | ah - that explains it | 10:18 |
| ZZelle_ | xavpaice, you can use as example _get_router_for_floatingip | 10:18 |
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| xavpaice | ZZelle_: not sure I understand that last comment | 10:18 |
| ZZelle_ | xavpaice, normal, it's a wrong copy/paste | 10:19 |
| xavpaice | :) | 10:19 |
| ZZelle_ | xavpaice, you can use as example neutron/tests/unit/db/test_l3_dvr_db.py | 10:19 |
| xavpaice | great, thanks for that | 10:19 |
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| ZZelle_ | xavpaice, it provides some examples on how to mock methods in order to implement unittest | 10:20 |
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| xavpaice | yeah, that's exactly where I'm getting stuck | 10:20 |
| xavpaice | seems that the small change I thought I was going to do is a bit bigger, but agree testing is essential | 10:20 |
| xavpaice | can you advise also if I'm going about this the right way? I was wondering, if a router is not the default gateway for a subnet, should there be circumstance when it should get the floating IP? | 10:21 |
| * xavpaice is still finding the way around | 10:22 | |
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| pc_m | dougwig: hi | 13:19 |
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| ihrachyshka | nmagnezi, so are you going to propose reverts for other branches for multi dhcp agent regression? I see icehouse only. | 13:53 |
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| nmagnezi | ihrachyshka, i did it for other branches (got conflicts in master) working on a more detailed commit msg as requested. | 14:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Add Dibbler-based reference implementation for Prefix Delegation https://review.openstack.org/185977 | 14:36 |
| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Integrate PD Reference Implementation with neutron db/agent https://review.openstack.org/186022 | 14:36 |
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| sc68cal | mestery: the PD patches have been split, only question I have is the implementation is the first in the series and the API & DB is the last in the series. Any concern about that? I'm good with it but I don't know if anyone has an opinion against | 14:50 |
| mestery | sc68cal: It's a little awkward I agree, but it's similar to what happened with IPAM in that we merged the reference driver already before the API/DB changes :) | 14:50 |
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| ildikov | mestery: hi. | 14:53 |
| sc68cal | mestery: thanks :) | 14:53 |
| john-davidge | sc68cal: To me it seemed the logical way to do it - put in the behind-the-scenes infrastructure first before plugging it into the agent/db. Although I can see how that might be an odd way to look at it | 14:53 |
| ildikov | mestery: I have a small administrative favor to ask, if you're available. | 14:54 |
| mestery | john-davidge: It's fine mate | 14:54 |
| mestery | ildikov: howdy! What can I help you with? | 14:54 |
| ildikov | mestery: during the summit we had several dicussions around the vlan aware vms bp: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94612/ | 14:55 |
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| mestery | ildikov: Yes, indeed, you've stumbled into one of our "honeypot" items for Liberty :) | 14:55 |
| ildikov | mestery: the outcome was that we should reopen the review to continue with the discussions there as we have the use cases, but the implementation details need to be addressed | 14:56 |
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| ildikov | mestery: :) | 14:56 |
| mestery | ildikov: Ack, that's the right approach, I'd also argue that even we should just file an RFE bug with the use case and move forward that way. | 14:56 |
| mestery | But I missed the session on this as I had to be in a Magnum session during that slot. | 14:57 |
| john-davidge | mestery: Cool, hopefully it's much easier to review now it's not one giant patch | 14:57 |
| mestery | john-davidge: Indeed ;) | 14:57 |
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| ildikov | mestery: yeap, I briefly heard about the RFE bug approach | 14:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Liping Mao proposed openstack/neutron: This is a test for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185739/ https://review.openstack.org/185954 | 14:58 |
| ildikov | mestery: does that mean that we don't need a BP proposal for this on gerrit or that is an additional thing we need? I mean the RFE bug. | 14:58 |
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| amuller | ildikov: mestery: There's API issues we need to resolve and I think discussing those over the spec is fairly effective | 15:00 |
| ildikov | mestery: the outcome of the session was another discussion and the outcome of that one was to move the further discussions to gerrit | 15:01 |
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| ildikov | amuller: right, thanks | 15:02 |
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| ildikov | mestery: so basically I'm hunting for someone, who can push the Restore Change button on that spec review :) | 15:05 |
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| ildikov | mestery: amuller: is there a description somewhere about the RFE bug process? | 15:10 |
| amuller | mestery: I don't think wen eed an RFE bug for blueprints that already have a spec do we? | 15:10 |
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| mestery | amuller: No, no RFE needed in that case. | 15:16 |
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| ildikov | mestery: thanks much! | 15:20 |
| mestery | ildikov: I rebased https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94612/ and moved it to specs/liberty. We can discuss that thing now. | 15:20 |
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| ildikov | mestery: great, thanks again! | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | John Davidge proposed openstack/neutron: Add Dibbler-based reference implementation for Prefix Delegation https://review.openstack.org/185977 | 15:22 |
| mestery | ildikov: your welcome :) | 15:22 |
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| ildikov | mestery: :) | 15:24 |
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| sc68cal | john-davidge: I'm fine with it, I was just concerned that others might nitpick on it | 15:26 |
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| sc68cal | john-davidge: but looks like we're all good - full speed ahead sir | 15:27 |
| john-davidge | sc68cal: awesome, just making sure nothing's on fire then I'll take off the -WIP | 15:27 |
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| ildikov | amuller: thanks for adding the comment about your action point to the review | 15:29 |
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| ildikov | amuller: do you have any rough estimate on how much time does the investigation need? | 15:31 |
| sc68cal | john-davidge: sounds good, I'll be reviewing the patches today/tomorrow | 15:31 |
| amuller | ildikov: nay | 15:32 |
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| amuller | ildikov: We'd probably want to decide if we want untagged traffic on the trunk/parent port | 15:33 |
| amuller | ildikov: in any case | 15:33 |
| amuller | ildikov: we didn't really get concensus on that | 15:33 |
| amuller | or on a subport | 15:33 |
| ildikov | amuller: np, I was just curious | 15:34 |
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| ildikov | amuller: right, IIRC the idea of untagged traffic on the parent port wasn't fully accepted | 15:36 |
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| ildikov | amuller: I will dig into my notes and add some of these questions to the review just to see what we neeed to deal with | 15:38 |
| amuller | ildikov: thank you, much appreciated | 15:38 |
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| ildikov | amuller: np, and then let's keep in touch regarding to the investigation work, let me know if you need any help with that | 15:40 |
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| amuller | ildikov: Will do | 15:40 |
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| ildikov | amuller: cool, thanks | 15:42 |
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| mestery | carl_baldwin: Those were all good questions you had | 16:30 |
| mestery | And we need answers | 16:31 |
| mestery | The consistency is missing right now, you're right. | 16:31 |
| mestery | And the confusion will only get worse. | 16:31 |
| dougwig | scope for liberty is bp's + bugs, same as before, right? old specs will have bp's. | 16:31 |
| mestery | The transition period is going to be problematic | 16:31 |
| armax | dougwig: right | 16:31 |
| dougwig | we could also write a script to file RFE's based on existing specs. | 16:31 |
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| mestery | dougwig: carl_baldwin is suggesting that will be confusing, and I see his point | 16:31 |
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| mestery | dougwig: Automated script misses the point I think | 16:31 |
| dougwig | i think our utter lack of being on the same page is confusing, but clicking on 'liberty-1' in launchpad is pretty clear. just IMO. | 16:31 |
| armax | until we have a clear set of guidelines for RFE’s and a new spec template I think all the points are moot | 16:32 |
| john-davidge | sc68cal: Tests are passing, WIP removed :) | 16:32 |
| mestery | armax: Agreed | 16:32 |
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| armax | and jumping the gun is not helping either | 16:32 |
| mestery | dougwig: Valid point | 16:32 |
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| armax | and I don’t love being a paper pusher | 16:33 |
| * dougwig gets out a gun, lays it on the floor, and jumps over it. | 16:33 | |
| armax | :) | 16:33 |
| mestery | lol | 16:33 |
| armax | I’d say let’s make sure we get the process nailed by the end of the week, let’s advertise it during next IRC | 16:33 |
| mestery | OK, I've gotta grab some food before another meeting at the top of the hour. | 16:34 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: PD patch split is done, ready for review. Dependency tree starts here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158697/ | 16:34 |
| mestery | armax: Agreed | 16:34 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: ack | 16:34 |
| HenryG | Clarify the RFE guidelines and finalize the new spec template by Liberty-1. After L-1 require all old unimplemented specs to move/convert to the RFE process? | 16:34 |
| dougwig | armax: that likely needs to come with some example RFE's and specs and devrefs. | 16:34 |
| armax | and it should be easier for folks to see how to proceed | 16:34 |
| armax | dougwig: yes | 16:35 |
| mestery | HenryG: Agreed | 16:35 |
| armax | marun: you going to work on the guidelines, right? | 16:35 |
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| marun | armax: with your help, yeah :) | 16:36 |
| armax | marun: sure thing | 16:37 |
| armax | as carl_baldwin pointed out, there’s urgency in this matter | 16:37 |
| armax | so we must resolve this asap | 16:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: what? | 16:38 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: what what? | 16:38 |
| carl_baldwin | I don’t remember pointing out any urgency. | 16:38 |
| mestery | I think we all agree there is urgency, it's clear after that meeting even the drivers are confused | 16:38 |
| mestery | I did a terrible job in my blueprints.rst patch, lots of things were left out. | 16:39 |
| mestery | I may have to file another one to address the gaps I suspect. | 16:39 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: I mean lack of clarity on the way to handle the RFE submission process | 16:39 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Right. | 16:39 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: the later we resolve it, the more people will be confused | 16:39 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: hence the urgency | 16:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Shorten the spec template greatly. https://review.openstack.org/182905 | 16:41 |
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| HenryG | armax: Should the vendor decomposition "Phase 2" be a new rfe? Or just continue on the original spec? | 16:42 |
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| armax | HenryG: I think it needs neither | 16:42 |
| HenryG | armax: just regular bugs? | 16:43 |
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| armax | HenryG: I would think so, we’d need to modify the contribute.rst to advertise the changes in the contribution process | 16:44 |
| armax | HenryG: while we make changes to the way we handle the stuff that’s in tree | 16:44 |
| HenryG | armax: sounds good to me | 16:44 |
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| madhu_ak | marun: Hi maru, the flavor-framework patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139758) is successful after rebasing it to the neutron master, I am gathering the relevant information to implement tempest tests..do you want them in the tempest tree or the neutron tree - and if neutron where would they go? | 16:54 |
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| mestery | amuller_afk: When back, see comment from madhu_ak above. | 17:02 |
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| madhu_ak | thanks mestery | 17:03 |
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| ratalevolamena | hello guys | 17:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: Flesh out the new RFE process and set deadlines for it's use https://review.openstack.org/186095 | 17:27 |
| mestery | armax marun dougwig carl_baldwin: ^^^^ | 17:28 |
| * armax looks | 17:28 | |
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| carl_baldwin | mestery: ack, reading... | 17:30 |
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| ratalevolamena | hi emaga | 17:31 |
| ratalevolamena | how are you? | 17:31 |
| ratalevolamena | nedd help | 17:31 |
| ratalevolamena | need help | 17:32 |
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| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, hi | 17:38 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: hi | 17:38 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, if have some time could you look at https://review.openstack.org/179955 ? | 17:39 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Yes. | 17:39 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, thx | 17:40 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Glad to help. | 17:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Do not assume order of dictionary elements in init_l3 https://review.openstack.org/186106 | 18:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/182746 | 18:13 |
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| amuller | madhu_ak: heya | 18:22 |
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| amuller | madhu_ak: You can now contribute Neutron API tests to the Neutron tree. These tests require only a Neutron server, no agents | 18:23 |
| amuller | madhu_ak: And go through the API layer | 18:23 |
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| amuller | madhu_ak: If you need to test interaction with other projects (Nova, etc) you'd need to contribute the tests to Tempest | 18:24 |
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| amuller | madhu_ak: Does that make sense? | 18:24 |
| madhu_ak | hi amuller | 18:24 |
| madhu_ak | sure, will take a look into it and confirm you back? | 18:25 |
| amuller | madhu_ak: Please do | 18:26 |
| madhu_ak | thanks for the guidance amuller | 18:26 |
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| amuller | madhu_ak: If you ask me I'd rather you rework the unit tests so they don't use mocks | 18:28 |
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| amuller | madhu_ak: The unit tests should test the plugin code without mocks. The API tests can then be a subset of simple functionality using the API layer. | 18:28 |
| amuller | madhu_ak: just my 2 cents | 18:28 |
| amuller | madhu_ak: Ahh I see you have two test cases in the unit tests file. I'd investigate if you can remove parts of the first test case when you write the API tests in the tree. | 18:29 |
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| madhu_ak | oh, actually I am in the standup meeting at HP, so will shall come back to you once it finishes.. amuller | 18:31 |
| amuller | madhu_ak: ack | 18:31 |
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| madhu_ak | thanks amuller | 18:31 |
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| madhu_ak | hi amullar, I am back.. | 19:03 |
| madhu_ak | amuller | 19:03 |
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| madhu_ak | amuller: yes, there are two testcases in unit tests file..when writing api tests, the second testcase makes sense.. | 19:04 |
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| madhu_ak | amuller: when working with api tests, I would like to play a bit around before writing them... | 19:05 |
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| madhu_ak | thanks for the pointer and suggestions amuller | 19:17 |
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| pc_m | mestery: hi | 19:38 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: ping | 19:51 |
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| JoeJulian | Well that's not very useful: "Requested revision 1f71e54a85e7 overlaps with other requested revisions" when trying to upgrade the db to head. | 20:10 |
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| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, pong | 20:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | I started reviewing your patch to avoid duplicate subnet allocations. I wondered if you have any thoughts on how to do it for Galera. | 20:15 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, yes and no | 20:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: WIP Use a single method to remove an address with its conntrack state https://review.openstack.org/186150 | 20:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Sounds like either a maybe or a paradox. | 20:18 |
| carl_baldwin | :) | 20:18 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, the idea is to allocate a cidr and just recheck the cidr doesn't overlap with an existing cidr | 20:19 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, no overlap => commit the transaction / overlap => rollback the transaction | 20:20 |
| ZZelle_ | ZZelle_, but it requires to use READ UNCOMMITTED isolation level in order to check the cidr doesn't overlap with existing or non committed cidrs | 20:21 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Right. | 20:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Lynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Add predefined DVR device owner for FIP w/unbound https://review.openstack.org/181599 | 20:22 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, but i have currently different behaviors with mysql & postgres and i need to check that galera handles correctly READ UNCOMMITTED isolation level | 20:23 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Can something be done with an optimistic locking technique using a field on the subnetpool? | 20:25 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, i see 2 alternatives | 20:27 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: gotta run will be back in around an hour. Sorry. | 20:27 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, ok | 20:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Persist DHCP leases to a local database https://review.openstack.org/185486 | 21:17 |
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| pc_m | mestery: hi | 21:25 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: back | 21:36 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, i found why postgres handles READ UNCOMMITTED differently ... "In PostgreSQL READ UNCOMMITTED is treated as READ COMMITTED" | 21:38 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: That would do it. | 21:38 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, so a common approach for all backends using READ UNCOMMITTED won't work | 21:38 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Agreed. | 21:40 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, we could have 2 implementations: one for mysql (using READ UNCOMMITTED), one for the others (using lockmode) | 21:41 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, or use 2 transactions | 21:42 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, 1st one creating a "candidate" subnet | 21:43 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, 2nd one checking the "candidate" subnet overlaps with no existing or "candidate" subnets. And transform the "candidate" subnet in a "real" subnet | 21:45 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, but it implies ghosts if an error is raised after the 1st transaction | 21:45 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, we need to cleanup them or reuse them as a "candidate" for newer subnet create requests | 21:47 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, so a mess | 21:48 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Are you opposed to an optimistic lock on the row in the subnetpool table? Would it not work? | 21:48 |
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| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, i am not fully sure how optimistic lock could work without a db constraint to ensure integrity | 21:50 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about but here is what I was thinking… | 21:51 |
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| carl_baldwin | It requires an added field to the subnetpool table. For each record, it holds a monotonically increasing integer. As part of each subnet transaction involving the pool, you read the integer and then at the end update the integer with the incremented value. Something like that. | 21:52 |
| carl_baldwin | But, there could be obvious reasons why this won’t work... | 21:52 |
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| * carl_baldwin just trying to build off of your original idea to do the locking around the subnetpool instead of the subnets. | 21:54 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Remove time formatting in agent clock error https://review.openstack.org/186185 | 21:57 |
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| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, so 1) get subnetpool version 2) update subnetpool version if unchanged 3) choose/create subnet? | 22:01 |
| carl_baldwin | I was thinking of 1, 3, 2 but it probably doesn’t matter since they’re in the same transaction. | 22:02 |
| tidwellr | ZZelle carl_baldwin: jumping in late here, I was following the discussion and 1, 3, 2 is was what I was thinking as well | 22:03 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, i can try, PS: no need to use monotonically versions, uuid versions should work | 22:04 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: Sure, uuid version will work but where does the unique id come from? | 22:05 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, uuid generator :) | 22:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: What is the advantage? I’m okay with it, just playing devil’s advocate. | 22:06 |
| carl_baldwin | Incrementing an integer is a lot cheaper than the uuid generator. | 22:06 |
| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, but an integer is limited by the column definition | 22:07 |
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| tidwellr | ZZelle_: do you mean that you're concerned about integer overflow? | 22:11 |
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| ZZelle_ | tidwellr, yes | 22:12 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: I guess this all depends on whether there is a way to check that the number of rows updated is 1 before committing the transaction. | 22:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Do not assume order of dictionary elements in init_l3 https://review.openstack.org/186106 | 22:14 |
| tidwellr | ZZelle_ carl_baldwin: what is the cost of generating a UUID relative to the overall overhead of a distributed transaction? could be fairly innocuous given the context | 22:15 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Probably not much. | 22:15 |
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| ZZelle_ | carl_baldwin, tidwellr, if that's the only trouble we found, i think we can handle it :) | 22:17 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/182746 | 22:18 |
| carl_baldwin | ZZelle_: I wonder if this will have any clues: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146228/ | 22:18 |
| tidwellr | ZZelle_ carl_baldwin: agreed, I'm inclined to just say generate a UUID and avoid any version overflow corner cases altogether | 22:18 |
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| doug-fish | Hi neutron friends! I'm working a Horizon bug related to ipv6: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1459446 | 22:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1459446 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "can't update dns for an ipv6 subnet" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Doug Fish (drfish) | 22:29 |
| doug-fish | it seems to me that Horizon is trying to pass 'ipv6_ra_mode' and 'ipv6_address_mode' which is getting rejected by the neutron API, because those attributes are supposed to be read only | 22:30 |
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| doug-fish | my question: are those attributes _always_ read only? I'm thinking of just purging them from the api call | 22:30 |
| ZZelle_ | doug-fish, hi | 22:31 |
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| doug-fish | ZZelle_: hello | 22:32 |
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| ZZelle_ | doug-fish, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/55c3cdecb39169e6c7d5fcb98fa7b3aa803b4f6e/neutron/api/v2/attributes.py#L773-L781 | 22:34 |
| ZZelle_ | doug-fish, you can post them only | 22:34 |
| doug-fish | perfect! | 22:34 |
| doug-fish | thank you | 22:34 |
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| ZZelle_ | doug-fish, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/55c3cdecb39169e6c7d5fcb98fa7b3aa803b4f6e/neutron/api/v2/attributes.py: our API bible! | 22:34 |
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| doug-fish | ZZelle_: that's surprisingly well documented. Very useful! | 22:35 |
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| fredlhsu | Hi all, I’m trying to get my devstack system upgraded to Kilo, but am having trouble with one of my ML2 drivers. Is there something different that I need to do post-decomposition? | 22:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add RFE submission guidelines https://review.openstack.org/186204 | 22:40 |
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| armax | fredlhsu: what ML2 driver are you using? | 22:42 |
| fredlhsu | Arista | 22:42 |
| armax | fredlhsu: what problem are you encountering? perhaps Sukhdev can help you too | 22:43 |
| Sukhdev | fredlhsu: Yes, I am the right guy to help you out | 22:44 |
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| fredlhsu | I’m pinging him on another channel :) | 22:44 |
| fredlhsu | Just thought I’d see if there was something broader that I was missing :) | 22:44 |
| Sukhdev | fredlhsu: which channel did you ping me on? | 22:44 |
| armax | fredlhsu: you might need too, but that greatly depends on the ml2 driver | 22:44 |
| Sukhdev | fredlhsu: please explain your issue, perhaps we can switch to private channel | 22:45 |
| armax | fredlhsu: there are ml2 drivers that have explicit devstack support | 22:45 |
| armax | fredlhsu: for instance https://github.com/stackforge/networking-ovn/tree/master/devstack | 22:45 |
| armax | fredlhsu: and https://github.com/stackforge/networking-vsphere/tree/master/devstack | 22:46 |
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| Sukhdev | armax: if this is Arista specific ML2 driver issue, I can take it from here and help fredlhsu | 22:46 |
| armax | fredlhsu: but it’s not strictly necessary and local.conf should be possible to be edited to accomplish what you need | 22:46 |
| fredlhsu | Sukhdev email | 22:47 |
| armax | Sukhdev: sure thing, keep me posted if you think it’s appropriate | 22:47 |
| Sukhdev | armax: thanks - will do | 22:47 |
| Sukhdev | fredlhsu: sukhdev@arista.com | 22:47 |
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| fredlhsu | Just needed to upgrade that particular package, thanks Sukhdev | 22:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add Dynamic Multipoint VPN to Neutron VPNaaS https://review.openstack.org/181563 | 23:00 |
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| wuhg | all:it reported Unable to establish connection to http://PADAWANBASE-CCP-T01-VIP-KEY-API-NETCAN:9696/v2.0/networks.json when i tried to create a network | 23:13 |
| wuhg | stack@PADAWANBASE-CCP-T1-M1-NETCLM:~$ curl http://PADAWANBASE-CCP-T01-VIP-KEY-API-NETCAN:9696 | 23:13 |
| wuhg | {"versions": [{"status": "CURRENT", "id": "v2.0", "links": [{"href": "http://PADAWANBASE-CCP-T01-VIP-KEY-API-NETCAN:9696/v2.0", "rel": "self"}]}]} | 23:13 |
| wuhg | all:any reason why the neutron client can't connect to http://PADAWANBASE-CCP-T01-VIP-KEY-API-NETCAN:9696? | 23:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add RFE submission guidelines https://review.openstack.org/186204 | 23:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Shorten the spec template greatly. https://review.openstack.org/182905 | 23:39 |
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