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dougwigSukhdev: is it a merge conflict?  gerrit doesn't think so00:00
dougwiglooks like it failed the functional test.00:01
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Sukhdevdougwig: I am re-running the tests - lets see what happens00:18
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: IP Address length only needs to be 45 chars long  https://review.openstack.org/18660900:36
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix ovs agent restore local_vlan_map failed  https://review.openstack.org/18548500:40
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: IP Address length only needs to be 45 chars long  https://review.openstack.org/18660900:46
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: IP Address length only needs to be 45 chars long  https://review.openstack.org/18660900:48
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hanzhangkevinbenton: can you help to review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185485 again?02:01
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openstackgerritHosung Hwang proposed openstack/neutron: Implement IPAM Driver loader  https://review.openstack.org/14747902:25
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix ovs agent restore local_vlan_map failed  https://review.openstack.org/18548502:28
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix ovs agent restore local_vlan_map failed  https://review.openstack.org/18548503:13
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Use correct time delta function  https://review.openstack.org/18663203:16
kevinbentonhanzhang: still there?03:21
hanzhangyes03:21
hanzhangkevinbenton: can you help to review this patch:https://review.openstack.org/18548503:23
kevinbentonhanzhang: just did, make the change Akihiro suggested and then ping me and I will +203:23
hanzhangok03:24
amotokihanzhang: I am fine too if you respin.03:25
openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix ovs agent restore local_vlan_map failed  https://review.openstack.org/18548503:27
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hanzhangthx, I have address it03:28
openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron: Send 'security_groups_member_updated' when port'ip changes  https://review.openstack.org/17715903:30
openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/neutron: Update port security group, relevant ipset member can't be updated  https://review.openstack.org/18663603:30
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normanHi all question about the enabling Fwaas in Kilo03:34
normanI following the guide  1. change the fwaas_plugin.in  to enable it03:35
hanzhangkevinbenton, amotoki: I have modify it03:35
norman2. add the service providers  in the neutron.conf03:35
norman3, I even migrate the database for service fwaas03:36
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hanzhangnorman, what's your question?03:37
norman4, modify neutron.l3-agent.service to add the fwaas_plugin.ini03:37
normanrestart, but neutron client told me that no resources found03:37
normanwhat I missed?03:37
normanhanzhang, when I try to create some fwaas related content , neutron client show 404, no resources found03:39
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix ovs agent restore local_vlan_map failed  https://review.openstack.org/18548503:51
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hanzhangnorman, what's your 'service_plugins' in neutron.conf03:53
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openstackgerritberlin proposed openstack/neutron: (WIP)Add necessary conf parameters for multi support  https://review.openstack.org/18582604:02
openstackgerritberlin proposed openstack/neutron: (WIP)DB changes for multi context edge life cycle mgmt  https://review.openstack.org/18553904:02
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix ovs agent restore local_vlan_map failed  https://review.openstack.org/18548504:22
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openstackgerritstephen-ma proposed openstack/neutron: Don't print RPC error traceback at L3 agent start  https://review.openstack.org/18658404:41
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normanhanzhang,  service_plugins = firewall04:53
norman[service_providers]04:53
normanservice_provider = FIREWALL:Iptables:neutron.agent.linux.iptables_firewall.OVSHybridIptablesFirewallDriver:default04:53
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trinathsHi Neutroner's, Very Good Morning all05:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Use correct time delta function  https://review.openstack.org/18663205:25
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/neutron: test_ovs_neutron_agent: Remove unnecessary mocking  https://review.openstack.org/18665106:02
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/18629006:16
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Add stt type driver to ML2  https://review.openstack.org/18033106:31
normanhanzhang, ping06:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix ovs agent restore local_vlan_map failed  https://review.openstack.org/18548506:57
normanHi Will fwaas conflict with  L3 ?06:57
normanafter I enabled fwaas, neutron client told me can't not find router resource not found ....06:58
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openstackgerritberlin proposed openstack/neutron: (WIP)Add necessary conf parameters for multi support  https://review.openstack.org/18582607:01
openstackgerritberlin proposed openstack/neutron: (WIP)DB changes for multi context edge life cycle mgmt  https://review.openstack.org/18553907:01
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openstackgerritYujiAzama proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec of forwarding rule and classifier to Liberty .  https://review.openstack.org/18666307:10
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ratalevolamenahi guys07:49
ratalevolamenaneed help for debugging codes07:49
ratalevolamenahow to reproduce the bug???07:50
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akamyshnikovaratalevolamena, it depends what bug you are trying to reproduce, is a bug report for it?07:54
ratalevolamenahow to reproduce the bug on neutron issues???07:54
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ratalevolamenaakamyshnikova: yes there is, but a lack of information07:55
ratalevolamenaakamyshnikova: would you explain how do reproduce your bug?07:57
openstackgerritAaron Rosen proposed openstack/neutron: Add stt type driver to ML2  https://review.openstack.org/18033107:57
ratalevolamenaan example please07:57
akamyshnikovaratalevolamena, you should add in such report comment that reporter should provide steps how to reproduce bug and set it to Incomplete status07:57
akamyshnikovaratalevolamena, can you point me the bug your talking about?07:58
ratalevolamenaok07:58
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ratalevolamenaakamyshnikova: for example07:59
ratalevolamenaakamyshnikova: nova syslog logging to /dev/log race condition in python 2.6 and 2.07:59
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ratalevolamenaakamyshnikova: or would you show me with a bug that you're working on08:01
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openstackgerritHosung Hwang proposed openstack/neutron: Implement IPAM Driver loader  https://review.openstack.org/14747909:08
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Carloshello, I'm configuring the cisco nexus plugin on the neutron of Kilo version, and I have a question09:49
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CarlosIt seems that I have everything configured, but when I created a vlan, the neutron didn't connect to the Nexus switch to create it09:50
CarlosAnyone can help with that?09:50
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openstackgerritHirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add availability_zone support  https://review.openstack.org/16961210:12
CarlosI'll repeat: I'm configuring the cisco nexus plugin on the neutron of Kilo version, and I have a question. when I created a vlan, the neutron didn't connect to the Nexus switch to create it. Anyone can help with that?10:13
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openstackgerritAdrien Vergé proposed openstack/neutron: Fix indentation errors in tests  https://review.openstack.org/18670810:44
openstackgerritAdrien Vergé proposed openstack/neutron: Get rid of contextlib.nested  https://review.openstack.org/18670910:44
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Cleanup stale metadata processes on l3 agent sync  https://review.openstack.org/18302810:57
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Fix l3 agent to not create already deleted router  https://review.openstack.org/18351911:02
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openstackgerritAdrien Vergé proposed openstack/neutron: Get completely rid of contextlib.nested  https://review.openstack.org/18670911:09
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure netfilter is enabled for bridges  https://review.openstack.org/18086711:10
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eezhovaihrachyshka, hi! Could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161732/23 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170905/ ?11:26
eezhovaihrachyshka, These are the patches that add the opportunity to handle SIGHUPs11:26
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ihrachyshkaeezhova, hi. ok, I'll take a look. I've heard there were some issues with oslo-incubator patches related to signal handling for children that resulted in multiple reverts back and forth. Are those patches related to it?11:27
eezhovaihrachyshka, no, the only patch that was in any way related to these reverts was https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175834/. And that one is now abandoned due to oslo.service graduation11:29
ihrachyshkabut we are still using incubator version of the module, so why have you abandoned it?11:30
eezhovaihrachyshka, because that patch syncs the very same oslo patch that was the object of so many reverts and is currently not in oslo-incubator code base11:31
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: ovs agent startup improvements  https://review.openstack.org/18673412:13
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Some testing of ovs-agent flowless restart  https://review.openstack.org/18292012:44
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ZZelle_ihrachyshka, hi13:22
ihrachyshkaZZelle, hi13:22
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ZZelle_ihrachyshka, if you have some times, could you look at https://review.openstack.org/185633 ?13:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: py34: don't run any tests except unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/18637013:23
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openstackgerritMauro Rodrigues proposed openstack/neutron: Add dhcp-option support to dnsmasq  https://review.openstack.org/18676413:49
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mesterysalv-orlando: Do you plan to spin a new version of this spec to flesh out the TODO sections: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136760/14:10
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openstackgerritOleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Fix l3 agent to not create already deleted router  https://review.openstack.org/18351914:21
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ihrachyshkaeezhova, I'm sorry I'm not really useful. this startup code is so spaghetti like already that I fail to understand it for now. I'll try to spend more time on it so that I'm not that ignorant. :)14:38
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marunotherwiseguy: wondering what you think of this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180867/914:41
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marunotherwiseguy: I'm not sure this shouldn't be a sanity check or at least detection-only.14:41
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eezhovaihrachyshka, your reviews are still very helpful and I found some of your comments are really thought-provoking. Please see replies to some of your questions inline. I'll try to come up with answers to other questions soon14:42
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mesteryihrachyshka: If you have a moment: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185491/14:56
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Add sanity test for ipset in a namespace  https://review.openstack.org/18678215:04
amullerajo: marun: otherwiseguy: ^15:04
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ajoamuller ack :)15:05
amullernext up is a patch that will tie sanity checks to tests so that they're skipped conditionally15:05
amullerZZelle_: You were working on a patch that disallows skipping tests at the gate right?15:05
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marunamuller: I'm pretty ignorant of ipset. Why is it necessary to use 2 namespaces?15:08
otherwiseguymarun: I would probably prefer it as a sanity check. It seems weird to have it run per-instance (though I'm not sure how many times it would actually get instantiated). But it doesn't bother me as much as doing something like a version check.15:09
marunamuller: ah, so the easiest way to detect it not working in a namespace is trying to apply the same name15:09
otherwiseguymarun: seems like something that deployment tools should be taking care of.15:10
marunotherwiseguy: Yeah. As I've commented on the review, it seems strange for software to be modifying global settings that are typically the province of ops/sysadmin.15:10
otherwiseguymarun: it occurs to me that I should probably make a patch for devstack that runs the sanity check after configs are built.15:12
marunotherwiseguy: +115:12
otherwiseguyat least as an option15:12
marunyeah, detecting the problem seems to be the way we deal with this stuff15:12
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otherwiseguymaybe run it the first time, create a sentinel file etc. since it is unlikely that the distro will suddenly become not-suitable.15:13
ajootherwiseguy, marun , I disagree15:13
ajorespectfully, of course :D15:14
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marunajo: do tell15:14
ajowe're not checking a tool version, or kernel support for something, or tool support for certain parameters15:14
ajowe're just configuring another piece in the system, the same as when we configure iptables15:14
marunajo: the problem is in the nature of the modification15:14
marunajo: it's a global setting15:14
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marunajo: it's not specific to neutron15:14
ajowe also set global iptables :)15:15
ajovia iptables-save iptables-restore15:15
ajoit's not different15:15
ajojust different interface15:15
marunajo: I think I'd like a second opinion.15:15
ajomarun, sure :)15:15
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marunajo: iptables-save/restore relies on these global settings, yes?15:15
ajomarun, the table entries we write, rely on those, yes15:16
ZZelle_amuller, hi15:16
marunajo: so ops have control over those settings, and can prevent neutron from working if they want15:16
ZZelle_amuller, yes, i am working on it15:16
marunajo: for whatever reason15:16
marunajo: I don't think neutron should be taking that control away15:16
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ajomarun, I have wasted so many hours in this specific missconfiguration, that I just hate it, so I could be biased ;)15:16
marunajo: I think detecting the problem and failing is necessary15:17
marunajo: I'm less clear on the merits of automatically fixing the problem15:17
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ajomarun, the problem with sanity, is that we don't want to run it at every server boot,..15:17
ajobut..15:17
marunajo: it's convenient for development, but I don't think that's true of a deployed environment15:17
marunajo: why not?15:17
ajomarun, boot time15:17
ajomarun, but for example, it's good for a reporting tool15:17
marunajo: It doesn't have to be whole sanity suite15:18
ajomarun, the same reason why we don't want to check at agent boot.. it takes tame if we pile all the checks15:18
marunajo: but the agent should be checking for system configuration that it requires15:18
marunajo: regardless15:18
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otherwiseguyI don't really mind a whole lot either way about the globalness, it just seems odd to keep setting it over and over when you could just set it once and be done with it.15:18
openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Add sanity test for ipset in a namespace  https://review.openstack.org/18678215:19
ajomarun, don't know, amy be we should be running an specific set of sanities at agent boot (unless config disabled)15:19
ajootherwiseguy, marun  ^ that would ensure it's sanity checked, and who's worried about agent boot times, can disable the checks15:19
amullermarun: another way would be to create an ipset in a NS and list ipsets in the root NS and see if it's there15:19
ajoamy=may15:19
marunamuller: I'm not so picky, just wondering15:19
marunamuller: I am not clear, though, on why it's safe to remove the ipset from only the first namespace15:19
ajobtw, otherwiseguy , marun , I was talking of the sysctl stuff: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180867/15:20
marunamuller: does it remove it from the second one?15:20
otherwiseguyThe main reason I did the sanity check stuff was to prevent having to do distro-specific patches because of version checks combined with distro backports of features.15:20
ajootherwiseguy, yeah I remember that, it was a mess15:20
openstackgerritAbhishek Chanda proposed openstack/neutron: Enable SNMP support in keepalived  https://review.openstack.org/18613015:20
marunI'm not wedded to sanity checks, but I think we should be consulting with operators on managing global state like this.15:20
marunI'm not clear on what would be preferable for them.15:21
ajomarun, I agree on that15:21
amullermarun: On a system that supports ipsets in namespaces it's sufficient to just remove the namespaces and the ipsets are deleted implicitly. On systems that don't support ipset in namespaces the same ipset exists in both namespaces and the root namespace so it's sufficient to just delete it once. If you delete it a second time it will fail as it was already deleted.15:21
otherwiseguyThere *should* be a sanity check for this most likely. That doesn't necessarily mean that it couldn't also be done in the code as well.15:21
ajoas an operator I expect that "it just works"15:21
ajobut I'm not one15:21
otherwiseguyajo: as an operator you would use a deployment tool which would ensure it 'just works' :)15:21
ajoI just have two nodes for self-consumption15:21
marunamuller: Please add that detail to the docs, it wasn't clear to me.15:22
amullermarun: will do15:22
marunamuller: otherwise it looks good15:22
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ajootherwiseguy, yes... that's true, but we shouldn't leave specific sysctl settings to be set by deployment, when they are completely necessary, but that's just my opinion... well, mysql is also completely necessary unless you run in sqlite :/15:22
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openstackgerritAbhishek Chanda proposed openstack/neutron: Enable SNMP support in keepalived  https://review.openstack.org/18613015:23
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Add sanity test for ipset in a namespace  https://review.openstack.org/18678215:24
marunajo: deployment does a whole bunch of stuff for us15:24
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otherwiseguyajo: to me, it's kind of like package management. Certain packages are absolutely required for neutron to work, but we wouldn't have code in-tree to ensure that the package was installed properly. I like my one-time setup done once. :)15:24
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ajoI don't know15:25
ajoif using iptables firewall driver15:25
otherwiseguyBut I don't feel strongly enough about it to give my completely imaginary -2 to the patch. :)15:25
ajoyou don't have choices15:25
ajoyou don't have different backends, you just have ... iptables :)15:25
ajoand you expect it to work15:25
marunajo: the very fact that we have to do this because of distro-specific configuration tells me we shouldn't be worrying about it15:25
ajoif we ran in freebsd or openbsd... sysctl wouldn't be there, or that specific kernel variable..15:25
marunajo: distro-specific -> deployment specific15:26
ajobut also, iptablesfirewalldriver would be useless in non neutron systems15:26
marunajo: when we go down the road of papering over distro-specific issues, we're going too far15:26
ajoyeah, but it's not distro specific15:26
marunajo: it is15:26
ajoor it is?15:26
ajohmm15:26
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ajomarun, ok, that's a good point15:26
marunajo: some distros enable things by default, others do not15:26
otherwiseguyajo: right, but I'm talking about packages that would be required by all of neutron, not just optional, so choice wouldn't really figure into it.15:26
ajowe disable that in kernel by defailt?15:26
ajowe=centos/rhel15:26
marunajo: ianw is clear on this in the commit message, btw15:26
ajoahaa15:27
ajook, that's a good point to leave that to deploy & devstack/rhel15:27
ihrachyshkaotherwiseguy, afaik you looked into this (?): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185491/ are we ok with merging it?15:28
otherwiseguyAt this point I'm just arguing for the fun of it and for a relatively small preference. :p15:28
* otherwiseguy looks15:28
ihrachyshkait's a bit tricky in that it's, honestly, a new feature. I wonder why vpnaas introduce a new driver for that. I would assume there were other options.15:29
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otherwiseguyihrachyshka: I hadn't looked at that one, but I did look at this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185519/15:30
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otherwiseguyihrachyshka: And am all for both being merged (at least after fixing my inadvertent overwriting of the last one because I didn't look at .gitreview close enough)15:31
pc_motherwiseguy: ihrachyshka: I can address 18549115:31
pc_mif there are questions.15:32
pc_mihrachyshka: I wouldn't call it a new feature.15:32
ihrachyshkapc_m, I see it's not. but a new driver... why was the choice made this way? Isn't there a way to detect it somehow?15:32
ajootherwiseguy, ihrachyshka , marun , about the sysctl for iptables.... , we could also include the sysctl.d file in the neutron agent package15:33
ajothis way we ensure that even somebody doing a manual installation would succeed15:33
ihrachyshkanow any automation tools should configure different drivers for different platforms. they will hate us once again :)15:33
otherwiseguyihrachyshka: can't think of a way to do it very cleanly. the drivers are very clean, and don't touch other code. much preferable.15:33
ajo(been there, suffered that...)15:33
otherwiseguy(imo)15:33
ihrachyshkaajo, you mean, neutron shipping the file in its tarball and installing via setup.cfg rules?15:34
otherwiseguyihrachyshka: but, for rhel 7 for instance there is only one option: libreswan15:34
ihrachyshkathat would be a nice solution indeed. is that directory read by every reasonable distro?15:34
otherwiseguyfor rhel 6.5: openswan.15:34
pc_mihrachyshka: it is for a different platform (operating system). So rather than add logic that checked OS and did different work, we subclassed the openswan driver and then for deployment, they pick this drivers.15:34
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otherwiseguyEvery distro seemed to pick a different *swan fork. :p15:35
pc_mihrachyshka: Libreswan is for Fedora, OpenSwan for Ubuntu. Latter not support on Fedora.15:35
ihrachyshkapc_m, what's about strongswan?15:36
otherwiseguyI think ubuntu also supports strongswan?15:36
* ihrachyshka ..ooOO (ETOOMANYSWANS)15:36
otherwiseguyAnd fedora has it available, haven't tested it.15:36
otherwiseguyBut it isn't available in the RHELs.15:36
otherwiseguy:p15:36
pc_mFor ubuntu, was OpenSwan was the ref impl. As of 15.10, Ubuntu will no longer support. So, switching to StrongSwan.15:37
ihrachyshkaotherwiseguy, yeah, and then we have a separate driver for fedora-strongswan. so +1 swan in our apparently huge lake15:37
pc_mHence the migration.15:37
pc_mFedora now supports StrongSwan, so goal is that it will be the reference implementation in the future and OpenSwan deprecated.15:38
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pc_mWe found out (recently) that Fedora doesn't support OpenSwan, but has a Libreswan (which is almost identical). So patch for that support.15:38
openstackgerritNikolay Fedotov proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Set owner of  file to  user  https://review.openstack.org/18680215:38
otherwiseguyApparently one of the collective nouns used for swans in English is 'lamentation'. That fits here. :p15:39
pc_m:)15:39
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ihrachyshkawell, at least libreswan has a different fork. fedora-strongswan... not really. :)15:39
ihrachyshkaanyway, I'm probably not the one to judge, I guess there are valid reasons to breed swans further, I will just merge if it's cherry-picked correctly15:40
ihrachyshkahm, there is a config file change involved...15:41
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pc_mThe config file is used to select the device & service drivers15:42
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openstackgerritNikolay Fedotov proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Set owner of Q_VPN_CONF_FILE file to STACK_USER user  https://review.openstack.org/18680215:43
pc_mSo, for deployment, the desired *Swan is selected and then stacked. For Ubuntu, use StrongSwan, for example.15:43
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Sort _get_new/deleted_set_ips responses in unittests  https://review.openstack.org/18563315:44
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ihrachyshkapc_m, there is also rootwrap filter15:44
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ihrachyshkamestery, wow, I don't have +2 in *aas15:45
pc_myes, for Strongswan, it required a different filter.15:45
ihrachyshkaI need to ask Thierry I guess15:45
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mesteryihrachyshka: You don't? I'll fix that if I can15:46
mesteryihrachyshka: The ACL must be different for stable *aas branches15:46
pc_mi'd love to see additional +2ers in VPNaaS. I've had a bug out for 10 days now waiting for review15:46
* pc_m frustrated15:46
mesterypc_m: We need to work together to grow reviewers for that project15:47
mesterypc_m: I'm happy to help you with that, should we talk Monday?15:47
pc_mmestery: sure15:47
mesterypc_m: You are doing great work there BTW15:48
openstackgerritNikolay Fedotov proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Scenario test for vpnaas: ipsec-site-connection  https://review.openstack.org/15974615:48
pc_mmestery: Thanks. It's like herding cats :)15:48
mesterypc_m: I do that daily on a bigger scale, I know the feeling :)15:48
pc_m;)15:48
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Rename test_periodoc_resync_helper to test_periodic_resync_helper  https://review.openstack.org/18559315:49
pc_mmestery: I did two LP bugs as RFEs... Let me know if they need any thing (wasn't sure if there was expected content for an RFE).15:49
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Improve test_set_members_deleting_less_than_5  https://review.openstack.org/18585815:49
mesterypc_m: Thanks! We'll review and let you know.15:49
pc_mmestery: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1459423 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145942715:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1459423 in neutron "VPNaaS: Allow multiple local subnets for IPSec" [Undecided,New]15:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1459427 in neutron "VPNaaS: Certificate support for IPSec" [Undecided,New]15:50
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pc_mmestery: Maybe Monday we can talk about BGP/MPLS VPN and Edge VPN...some items from summit.15:51
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mesterypc_m: Ack15:52
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openstackgerritJian LI proposed openstack/neutron: Identify tenant_id's existence for admin user  https://review.openstack.org/18626416:12
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openstackgerritJian LI proposed openstack/neutron: Identify tenant_id's existence for admin user  https://review.openstack.org/18626416:25
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Improve test_set_members_deleting_less_than_5  https://review.openstack.org/18585816:29
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dhellmannmestery: I would like to cut a release of python-neutronclient on Monday to unblock the work on dropping the oslo namespace packages. The changes that will be released are listed in http://paste.openstack.org/show/245107/ -- Does that work for you?16:34
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mesterydhellmann: Looking16:34
mesterydhellmann: Yes, that's perfect!16:35
dhellmannmestery: thanks!16:35
mesterydhellmann: Thanks for the heads up as well16:35
dhellmannthat will be 2.6.0, since there are requirements changes16:35
dhellmannand a new feature, it looks like16:35
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mesterydhellmann: Ack16:35
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18274616:36
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mesterydhellmann: Just to refresh my memory, did we leave 2.3.x for Juno, 2.4.x was cut for Kilo, and we had a 2.5.x right, but now a 2.6.x?16:36
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dhellmannmestery: there is a 2.5.0 already, yes16:36
dhellmannI'm not sure if those other versions were tied to the releases you say, this one will be part of the liberty series16:37
mesterydhellmann: Ack, I don't expect releasing clients on those other branches anyways, so we're good with 2.6.x now. Thanks again!16:37
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HenryGmarun: ping16:45
HenryGmarun: For the api tests, I am trying to run one test in a debugger and oslo.cfg is telling me {('service_available', 'neutron'): False}16:47
HenryGIt works fine outside the debugger. Is there something I can pass directly to oslo.cfg to tell it where neutron is?16:48
marunHenryG: the api tests rely on tempest config16:48
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marunHenryG: are you setting the same env as appears in tox.ini for the debugging session?16:48
HenryGyes16:48
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marunHenryG: how are you invoking the test?16:52
HenryGmarun: I figured it out16:53
marunHenryG: ok16:53
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HenryGI had started the debugger before sourcing openrc from devstack16:53
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HenryGmarun: This is the debugger in PyCharm. It has nice visuals for inspecting stuff, but you need to get all your ducks in a row. :)16:58
marunHenryG: fair enough :)16:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Remove use of contextlib.nested (api-tests)  https://review.openstack.org/18555717:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: test_fork_error: Fix incorrect test mock  https://review.openstack.org/18342717:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Fix dhcp _test_sync_state_helper asserting calls wrong  https://review.openstack.org/15975617:43
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jrollmestery: kevinbenton: around? I'm hacking on this nova/ironic/neutron thing. how do y'all feel about adding a new optional parameter to the port-create api? it would be 'commit' or something, default to true. controls whether to plumb things immediately or just be ready to.18:01
jrollit would essentially be used as such (ignore the nova-net bits) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186855/18:02
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Implement IPAM Driver loader  https://review.openstack.org/14747918:09
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openstackgerritMing Yang proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: This change allows the bash completion script to work with BSD sed  https://review.openstack.org/18687018:35
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mingyI accidentally filed a duplicate bug, is there a process to merge bugs?18:53
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rustlebeemingy: it can be marked as a duplicate, what's the bug #?18:54
mingy1459470 is duplicate with 127749218:55
mingyfor python-neutronclient18:55
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mingyrustlebee: oh I found the "mark as duplicate" button, thanks!19:00
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openstackgerritMing Yang proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: This change allows the bash completion script to work with BSD sed  https://review.openstack.org/18687019:01
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rustlebeemingy: great, you're welcome19:02
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openstackgerritAbhishek Chanda proposed openstack/neutron: Enable SNMP support in keepalived  https://review.openstack.org/18613019:06
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openstackgerritSridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add Dynamic Multipoint VPN to Neutron VPNaaS  https://review.openstack.org/18156319:14
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johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: ping19:34
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: pong19:34
johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: you want to discuss the questions on the address scope blueprint?19:35
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carl_baldwinYes, let’s do.19:36
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180267/19:36
johnbelamaricso, I am trying to build the mental model for this, that's where the diagrams help me. trying to understand the use cases better too19:36
carl_baldwinRight, I have the diagram up too.19:37
carl_baldwin#link https://infoblox.app.box.com/s/pnfxslfrynl32ng1bmkcwuc456lmqt4v19:37
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: I like it.  I think it captures a complex scenario.19:37
carl_baldwinOne thing that does need clarification in my blueprint is where NAT will be applied (in the scope of the BP).19:38
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carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: I think I’ve actually had this wrong but I think I have a better idea of what to do.19:39
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: In Neutron today, NAT is applied anywhere an external gateway is created.19:39
carl_baldwin… and attached to an external network.19:39
johnbelamaricright. and once we are advertising routes to the internal networks, that doesn't make sense19:40
johnbelamaricbecause we have to advertise them to some external/provider router, so we need connectivity to an external network19:40
carl_baldwinSo, my new proposal will be to apply NAT anywhere an external gateway is connected *and* the two networks are not using the same address scope.19:40
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carl_baldwin* the same explicit address scope *19:41
johnbelamaricOk, so that would mean we would have a green subnet in the diagram in Scope C, and that would hook up to an external gateway so we can publish routes19:41
carl_baldwin^ That one is for Ryan who has been asking about implicit address scopes.19:41
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: Right, I definitely want to open up NATless routing and advertising when the scopes match.19:42
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carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: Also, I intend to exclude any other NAT case from the scope of this BP.  If two router internal ports’ scopes don’t match, you simple won’t get routing between them.19:42
johnbelamaricOk, I think this is making more sense. Somehow in my head I was thinking all the external networks would be in a scope, without any internal networks. But that makes the scopes not as useful - I think this one concept actually answers most of those questions.19:43
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johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: ok19:43
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: partially my fault because I didn’t fully understand it and therefore couldn’t fully specify it.19:43
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johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: well that's why we review specs :)19:43
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carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: Thanks for asking the right questions.19:44
johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: I can update the drawing to include some external networks in scope C. then we can think about how to advertise the routes upstream from there.19:44
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: Sounds good.  I will update the spec to (hopefully) make things clearer.19:45
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: Are there any other unanswered questions?19:45
johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: is there a way to include an SVG or similar in the specs? If so I can export it to SVG and you can include it. I tend to understand things visually a lot better19:45
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johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: let me look over my previous comments.19:45
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carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: There is some capability to include images, I think.  We’d have to find an expert (mestery?) to help us.19:46
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carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: I’d love to include the image in the spec.  I think it is a great way to visualize.19:47
johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: so, maybe this will come in the dynamic routing spec, but I am thinking the RD/RT for BGP advertising is going to end up as an attribute of the relationship between a router and a scope.19:48
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: If you provide the update image.  I’ll see about including it in the rendered spec.19:48
johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: OK19:48
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johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: ok, this answers my questions except the one above (how it fits with dynamic routing). we'll see when you get a chance to update it what else comes up19:49
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: Yes, I think you’re right.  What I’m still struggling with is how to bring all these BPs together without having to serialize them.19:49
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johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: for dynamic routing, there is a use case without RD/RT, I think teh spec was written without that in mind. So the multi-tenant routing becomes an add-on. But I should go back and read the other one before I say that...19:50
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carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: Let’s keep thinking about this relationship with dynamic routing.  It is hard because we kind of need dynamic routing to work without scopes or pools.19:51
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johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: ok19:51
johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: do you have a link to that spec handy?19:52
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johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: nm, found it19:53
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mesterydhellmann: When are you cutting python-neutronclient 2.6.0 again? I need to create a LP page for this milestone, and there area  few bug fixes I'm merging now as well.20:26
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dhellmannmestery: I'm going to do it Monday. I've updated the release script to create the milestone page for you automatically.20:27
mesterydhellmann: OK, cool! So, will we target bugs post-fact then?20:27
dhellmannmestery: I was planning to use SHA da39d9e so if you have another one let me know20:27
mesterydhellmann: Ack20:27
dhellmannmestery: yeah, see ttx's email http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/065031.html20:28
mesterydhellmann: Just wanted to confirm on that. Thanks! :)20:28
dhellmannmestery: ++20:28
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] BGP Dynamic Routing: introduce entities  https://review.openstack.org/11555420:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/18629021:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Sort _get_new/deleted_set_ips responses in unittests  https://review.openstack.org/18563321:00
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ratalevolamenahi guys21:12
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] BGP Dynamic Routing: adding agent and scheduling  https://review.openstack.org/11566721:18
openstackgerritAdrien Vergé proposed openstack/neutron: Fix indentation errors in tests  https://review.openstack.org/18670821:20
openstackgerritAdrien Vergé proposed openstack/neutron: Get completely rid of contextlib.nested  https://review.openstack.org/18670921:20
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] BGP Dynamic Routing: introduce entities  https://review.openstack.org/11555421:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Cleanup stale metadata processes on l3 agent sync  https://review.openstack.org/18302821:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Use os._exit after forking  https://review.openstack.org/18342621:28
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openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Implement routing networks in Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/17224421:28
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ratalevolamenaopenstackgerrit:21:29
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed openstack/neutron: Fix formatting of core-reviewers doc  https://review.openstack.org/18692021:30
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ratalevolamenahow to contribute for coding neutron spec on openstack?21:39
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ratalevolamenasomeone could explain me please21:40
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johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: ping21:43
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: pong21:43
johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: I updated the image, see here: https://infoblox.box.com/s/ly6y21ixpeaug37w7671yqnbk1f4o56s21:43
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carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: looking...21:53
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carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: There are two RY1 routers.21:55
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carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: And, just to be pedant, I wonder if it should stick to RFC 1918 and RFC 5737 addresses (not 11.0.0.0/8).21:58
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: One more thing.  I wonder if it should mark which router interfaces are “external gateways” for this BP.22:00
carl_baldwinOtherwise, I think it is a very good diagram.22:00
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tidwellrjohnbelamaric: thanks for the diagram, it's very good22:05
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kevinbentonjroll: ping22:09
jrollkevinbenton: hey22:11
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kevinbentonjroll: if you create a port and leave the binding information blank, it will just sit there unbound and status down22:11
kevinbentonjroll: will that work?22:11
jrollkevinbenton: hm, maybe? is there binding info that nova will know about and ironic will not know about?22:12
jrollI'm not sure what all gets stuffed in there22:12
jrollin general I'm trying to minimize nova changes22:13
kevinbentonjroll: right, who populates the host ID field?22:13
kevinbentonjroll: does that come from you or Nova?22:14
jrollkevinbenton: I guess either could22:14
jrolltrying to see where the binding info comes from, what's the port-create key for that?22:14
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openstackgerritHosung Hwang proposed openstack/neutron: Implement IPAM Driver loader  https://review.openstack.org/14747922:15
openstackgerritAlexander Ignatov proposed openstack/neutron: Removed dublicate keys in dicts in test  https://review.openstack.org/18693022:16
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kevinbentonjroll: binding:host_id IIRC22:17
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18274622:19
kevinbentonjroll: I need to step away for about a half hour. If you can't keep that blank, it still might not be an issue22:20
kevinbentonjroll: it will just go into binding_failed state IIRC22:20
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kevinbentonjroll: which won't plumb anything22:20
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jrollkevinbenton: why would it fail? it should have all the info22:21
jrollbut now that I'm looking -- could we make a port binding extension in nova?22:21
jrollhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py#L73922:21
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kevinbentonjroll: well if you provide a host id that doesn't have an agent running on it, it will go into binding failed22:22
jrollhmm, ok22:23
jrollthat's always going to be the case in ironic22:23
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kevinbentonjroll: well with ironic eventually you will populate a switch info thing that a physical mechanism driver will recognize and bind22:24
jrollkevinbenton: right, just thinking out loud :)22:24
jrollI think I'd need to run this code to be able to fully think it through22:24
kevinbentonjroll: so for now you might actually be okay. The port will just be in an ugly binding failed state until you update it22:25
jrollkevinbenton: yeah. I'd still like to think about this new parameter and the implications there22:25
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jrollkevinbenton: this morning was just curious what y'all thought about it, if it's a hard no etc22:26
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openstackgerritAlexander Ignatov proposed openstack/neutron: Removed dublicate keys in dicts in test  https://review.openstack.org/18693022:28
kevinbentonjroll: as of now I think it would be a hard sell because the port binding info does control that already22:28
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jrollkevinbenton: yeah, I'd rather see 'unbound' or something, but fair enough. I'll play with it22:30
jrolldon't let me hold you up on stepping out btw :x22:30
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] BGP Dynamic Routing: introduce entities  https://review.openstack.org/11555422:51
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kevinbentonjroll: ok, i'm back. is it possible for you to provide that host field that nova uses?23:11
jrollkevinbenton: yeah, shouldn't be a problem, ironic has instance IDs (which is what that is)23:11
jrollbut we'll have to hack the crap out of nova to make that work, I think23:11
jrollwhich may be a harder sell nova side23:12
kevinbentonjroll: that's not the instance id23:12
kevinbentonjroll: it's the hostname of the hypervisor23:12
jrolloh duh23:12
jrollyes, we have that23:12
jroll== ironic node id23:12
jrollit's the primary key ironic-side :P23:12
kevinbentonjroll: so making it None might be problematic ;)23:12
kevinbentonI think maybe just adjusting nova to let you provide an override for that maybe?23:13
jrollkevinbenton: hmmm, now we're going to have to push the port objects to ironic for the instance23:13
jrollbecause ironic can't query ports by node id if we don't send it23:13
kevinbentonoh hang on, will you have a different device owner field?23:14
kevinbentonwill it say "ironic:something" instead of "compute:something"?23:14
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jrollehhh, idk.23:14
jrollshould we?23:14
kevinbentonjroll: if you can23:15
jrollthat's the thing here, I don't know a ton about how all of this works :P23:15
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jrollkevinbenton: what does device owner designate?23:15
kevinbentonjroll: what type of device is using the port23:15
kevinbentonjroll: for example, one used by the dhcp agent would be "network:dhcp"23:15
jrollmmm23:16
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kevinbentonjroll: then we can have an ML2 mechanism driver that works with ironic mark all with the ironic owner as unbound23:16
kevinbentonjroll: then it won't go into binding failed23:17
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jrollkevinbenton: oh, that sounds like a good thing23:17
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kevinbentonjroll: so i would check what port fields you are allowed to tweak from the ironic side23:18
jrollkevinbenton: "allowed"?23:19
openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Modify ipset functional tests to pass on older machines  https://review.openstack.org/18695623:19
kevinbentonjroll: what's possible to change without changing the nova code23:19
jrollI see23:19
jrollkevinbenton: alright, thanks, I'll think on this. it's too late on friday to dig that deep :)23:20
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kevinbentonjroll: i'm planning on being in the IRC meeting for this, so let's bring it up then23:20
jrollcool. tty then!23:20
jrollI've put my original proposal on the agenda, fwiw23:20
kevinbentonttyl23:20
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openstackgerritRyan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] BGP Dynamic Routing: adding agent and scheduling  https://review.openstack.org/11566723:27
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