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| norman | Hi all, in kilo, after I enabled the fwaas, it will complain resource not found when I run neutron router-list, anyone can help me ? | 05:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Moshe Levi proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor mlnx mechanism driver to support infiniband only https://review.openstack.org/187054 | 07:25 |
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| hanzhang | hi all, who can help review this patch:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177159/ | 07:48 |
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| telnes | hello, | 07:57 |
| telnes | someone know if disable the localhost interface break neutron (ovs)? | 07:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Remove comment about hash seed in tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/187159 | 10:04 |
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| hanzhang | ajo: can you help to review this patch:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177159/ | 10:28 |
| ajo | hi hanzhang , I'm opening it, I need to finish something but I will review. | 10:28 |
| ajo | ahh | 10:29 |
| ajo | I see | 10:29 |
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| ajo | hanzhang, thanks for working on fixing this | 10:29 |
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| wigwam_work | hello! is it possible to move an instance (or actually a port) from one neutron network to another? thanks! | 11:41 |
| irenab | wigwam_work: not as far as I know | 11:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP in ovs neutron agent https://review.openstack.org/187174 | 11:59 |
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| eezhova | ihrachyshka, hi! | 12:44 |
| eezhova | ihrachyshka, thank you again for comments | 12:45 |
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| eezhova | ihrachyshka, concerning your idea of adding documentation on service launching in neutron: are there any guidelines on how docs should be written? | 12:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (multiprocess) and metadata agent https://review.openstack.org/161732 | 13:02 |
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| nmagnezi | amotoki, ping. regarding: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182313/ | 13:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Implement IPAM Driver loader https://review.openstack.org/147479 | 13:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor and decompose db_base_plugin_v2.py https://review.openstack.org/153236 | 13:10 |
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| amotoki | nmagnezi: pong | 13:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron QoS API Extension https://review.openstack.org/88599 | 13:14 |
| nmagnezi | amotoki, hi :-) | 13:15 |
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| nmagnezi | amotoki, so.. your comment regarding nargs was excellent. sadly that currently leaves me with no solution | 13:15 |
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| nmagnezi | amotoki, one option is to revert the patch who originally broke this. | 13:16 |
| nmagnezi | amotoki, what do you think? | 13:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (single process mode) https://review.openstack.org/170905 | 13:17 |
| amotoki | nmagnezi: have you checked subnet.py? you will see "--enable-dhcp=True" definition. | 13:17 |
| amotoki | nmagnezi: I think you can use the similar approach. | 13:17 |
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| amotoki | nmagnezi: We already released neutronclient with --router:external option, so we cannot simply revert the original patch unfortunately. | 13:18 |
| pcm_ | amotoki: Can you review https://review.openstack.org/183724? It fixes a problem where status is not reported correctly (and as a result one cannot update a VPN connection, as it thinks it is in pending create state)? | 13:21 |
| amotoki | pcm_: sure | 13:21 |
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| pcm_ | amotoki: thanks! | 13:23 |
| wigwam_work | hello, I need to be able to move a port from one neutron network to another... as this functionality is not provided through API, I ended up changing the particular rows in the database | 13:25 |
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| wigwam_work | unfortunately, neutron agent does not detect the change, I have to restart the neutron agent on the compute node where the instance lives | 13:26 |
| wigwam_work | my question: is there any cleaner way to notify neutron about the change? Thanks a lot! | 13:26 |
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| ihrachyshka | eezhova, I don't think there are guidelines. You can just check what's under doc/source/devref for inspiration | 13:28 |
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| eezhova | ihrachyshka, Should I cover only neutron part of the process of launching a service or I can also include information on what actually happens is common.service code (and that's the most complex part from my point of view)? | 13:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (multiprocess) and metadata agent https://review.openstack.org/161732 | 13:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (single process mode) https://review.openstack.org/170905 | 13:35 |
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| ihrachyshka | eezhova, I think what we are interested in is neutron side of things. so whatever details about oslo.service operation are useful to understand what's going on in neutron world can be included, but not too much if they are not that applicable. I feel I'm mumbling non-sense, so in essence, whatever you, as the one who understands this part of the project better, see useful for other fellows. | 13:57 |
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| eezhova | ihrachyshka, thank you, I feel I got the idea. I'll try to think of something that can at least wipe some fog from this area | 14:00 |
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| pavel_bondar | hi ihrachyshka | 14:12 |
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| ihrachyshka | pavel_bondar, hey. how are your trips?? :) | 14:12 |
| pavel_bondar | ihrachyshka, nice, thanks :) | 14:13 |
| pavel_bondar | Zurich and mountains were great | 14:13 |
| ihrachyshka | /envy_mode on | 14:14 |
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| pavel_bondar | ihrachyshka :) | 14:15 |
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| pavel_bondar | ihrachyshka, could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147479/ ? | 14:15 |
| pavel_bondar | ihrachyshka, you have reviewed ti a while ago, but it was in the middle of review chain, so was not merged at that time | 14:16 |
| pavel_bondar | s/ti/it/ | 14:16 |
| ihrachyshka | pavel_bondar, ack | 14:16 |
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| ihrachyshka | 58 patchsets, wow | 14:16 |
| pavel_bondar | it was a long way:) | 14:17 |
| ihrachyshka | I would recommend not to update them that often, otherwise lazy people like me to ignore updates :) I will check it for sure. | 14:17 |
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| ihrachyshka | *start to ignore | 14:18 |
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| pavel_bondar | ihrachyshka, this one was updated a lot mainly for rebase to fix merge conflicts in dependent patches | 14:19 |
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| ihrachyshka | pavel_bondar, yeah, I know, but still, if you can bulk multiple updates and review comments in one go, that would be more appealing to lazy ones. | 14:20 |
| pavel_bondar | ihrachyshka, agree, will to try to decrease count of uploads | 14:26 |
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| * pavel_bondar was missing gerrit and git on vacation, so reducing updates count is not for today | 14:32 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleg Bondarev proposed openstack/neutron: Fix l3 agent to not create already deleted router https://review.openstack.org/183519 | 14:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Add Pluggable IPAM Backend https://review.openstack.org/183099 | 14:32 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, hi | 14:52 |
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| markmcclain | ZZelle: hi | 14:53 |
| ZZelle | markmcclain, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187011/1/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/type_tunnel.py, i don't understand why TunnelTypeDriver is considered as stable | 14:54 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, because it's an internal class | 14:54 |
| markmcclain | ZZelle: the class comment "Define stable abstract interface for ML2 type drivers" | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Some testing of ovs-agent flowless restart https://review.openstack.org/182920 | 14:55 |
| markmcclain | ZZelle: I'm not opposed to removing that restriction, but seems like we should check to make sure there is not other code out there that assumes the class comment is true | 14:55 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, or i can define a subclass for the moment until we decide whether it's stable or not? | 14:57 |
| markmcclain | common subclass is fine too | 14:57 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, fine for me | 14:57 |
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| ZZelle | markmcclain, thx | 14:57 |
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| anteaya | sc68cal: you experimental job just merged, give it a bit to become available, let me know if you have issues with the build | 15:00 |
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| sc68cal | anteaya: thanks - was going to ping you with the same question about what is next :) | 15:06 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: have a cup of tea then try to run the job with `check experiemental` | 15:07 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: sounds good :) | 15:07 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:08 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: the DVR job got re-defined with that patch as well, I'm going to keep an eye on that job since we touched it | 15:08 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: good call | 15:08 |
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| anteaya | I'll be afk until after 1700 I expect so ping me after that | 15:08 |
| anteaya | hopefully you will have some results | 15:08 |
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| sc68cal | anteaya: ok, ttyl | 15:09 |
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| anteaya | thanks | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Modify ipset functional tests to pass on older machines https://review.openstack.org/186956 | 15:46 |
| amuller | ZZelle: ^ | 15:46 |
| ZZelle | amuller, hi, ack | 15:46 |
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| jschwarz__ | ihrachyshka, ping | 15:59 |
| ihrachyshka | jschwarz__, pong | 15:59 |
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| jschwarz__ | ihrachyshka, I saw that https://review.openstack.org/187186 failed.. I'll try to have a look at it sometime soon :) | 16:03 |
| ihrachyshka | jschwarz__, thanks, I was going to look into it, but since that's your child, you should be more aware of it | 16:03 |
| ZZelle | amuller, just a small nit | 16:04 |
| jschwarz__ | ihrachyshka, it looks like an issue with the OVS... | 16:04 |
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| jschwarz__ | ihrachyshka, http://logs.openstack.org/86/187186/1/check/check-neutron-dsvm-functional/8f36996/logs/neutron-openvswitch-agent--2015-06-01--132118.txt.gz | 16:05 |
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| jschwarz__ | for some reason it fails to create some bridge... I'll have a looksie | 16:05 |
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| dkehn | mestery, I can't believe you took me off the neutron drivers list, lol, good call | 16:43 |
| mestery | dkehn: Housekeeping on a Monday morning ;) | 16:43 |
| dkehn | mestery, yepper | 16:43 |
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| ihrachyshka | mestery, what's the final intent: do we kill -drivers group? | 16:44 |
| otherwiseguy | sc68cal: was looking into ipv6 support for metadata agent. obviously not really necessary if using config-drive, but if we were going to add ipv6 support to the agent, would we just need to come up with an ipv6 link local address to sub in for 169.254.169.254 (would ::169.254.169.254 work, or fe80::169.254.169.264? ) Looks like cloud-init allows metadata_urls to be passed in and supports v6, so image builders | 16:44 |
| otherwiseguy | could just add whatever address was decided upon. | 16:44 |
| mestery | ihrachyshka: This was the LP group neutron-drivers, it was old and full of cruft. | 16:44 |
| mestery | ihrachyshka: We're not killing neutron-drivers yet, we'll see where that lands though. | 16:44 |
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| ihrachyshka | mestery, so core set and driver set are still not identical, right? | 16:45 |
| otherwiseguy | Sounds ominous, killing neutron-drivers. | 16:45 |
| mestery | ihrachyshka: Ack, that's correct | 16:45 |
| mestery | otherwiseguy: They had to go! So evil :P | 16:45 |
| otherwiseguy | :D | 16:45 |
| mestery | Sorry, that was sarcasm for those less inclined :) | 16:45 |
| ihrachyshka | mestery, ok, thanks for clarification. though mass suicide would be better for my taste | 16:45 |
| mestery | ihrachyshka: Remind me never to make you mad ;) | 16:46 |
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| ihrachyshka | :-) | 16:46 |
| otherwiseguy | crashing neutron-drivers? | 16:46 |
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| sc68cal | otherwiseguy: we cannot define this address on our own | 16:47 |
| sc68cal | otherwiseguy: https://youtu.be/J68nBCnTx-A?t=33m10s | 16:47 |
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| sc68cal | otherwiseguy: I think your idea about metadata_urls is a good one, could use an actual DNS name that happens to have a AAAA record | 16:49 |
| sc68cal | otherwiseguy: that'd be at least one workaround | 16:49 |
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| otherwiseguy | sc68cal: technically ::169.254.169.254 is kind of the same ip. :p But yeah, since it is completely configurable on the cloud-init side, seems like we could just add "what makes sense to us" and then add in addresses for other stuff if we want as well. And of course, cloud-init has lots of handlers and requesting /openstack/whatever could have OS-specific stuff that isn't compatible with /ec2/ stuff. | 16:52 |
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| * otherwiseguy isn't really sure how the ::IPv4 addresses work from a scoping standpoint | 16:53 | |
| otherwiseguy | but the fe80:: link local *seems* like a sane choice. | 16:53 |
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| sc68cal | otherwiseguy: the twitter convo I was trying to remember, the person didn't like the IPV4 embedded IPv6 addr idea | 16:55 |
| otherwiseguy | Of course, I did spend like half a day searching for metadata traffic on devstack IPv6 only before realizing that config-drive was a a thing. :p I kept yelling "HOW ARE YOU WORKING?!?!" | 16:55 |
| sc68cal | otherwiseguy: i'm trying to find the twitter thread... | 16:55 |
| amuller | otherwiseguy: "How are you working" is a worse feeling than "Why aren't you working" imo | 16:55 |
| sc68cal | otherwiseguy: found it - https://twitter.com/eyepv6/status/600412572844560384 | 16:56 |
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| sc68cal | otherwiseguy: frankly, i hate the metadata API as it exists today in Neutron since it relies on NAT to proxy it back to the control plane | 16:58 |
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| sc68cal | otherwiseguy: I'd rather see config-drive become the popular way of doing things | 16:59 |
| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, how about introducing our own address, and in case Amazon chooses a different one later, we only support both | 16:59 |
| ihrachyshka | ? | 16:59 |
| ihrachyshka | does not sound like a huge pain, and it will allow us to move with the feature | 16:59 |
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| Swami | mestery: can you take a look at this patch for making dvr job voting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180230/ | 16:59 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: I'd rather not, since we'd have to add support inside cloud-init for whatever we choose, then have to support that address for a long time | 16:59 |
| mestery | Swami: Yes, will do! | 17:00 |
| Swami | mestery: thanks | 17:00 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: most likely past whenever AWS decides whatever they decide, I'd rather not do it at all | 17:00 |
| ihrachyshka | well, +1 address to expose the same iface seems reasonable to my taste | 17:00 |
| sc68cal | Basically I don't think we should make *any* "improvements" to the AWS compatability layer. Wether it's the metadata API or the security group API. | 17:01 |
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| sc68cal | Just make it look the same as AWS. No "extras" | 17:01 |
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| sc68cal | If we want to make OpenStack successful, and compelling features, make them an OpenStack API | 17:02 |
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| pcm_ | dougwig: mestery: Can either of you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183724/ so that I can get it upstreamed? | 17:02 |
| otherwiseguy | sc68cal: yeah, config-drive is nice, but there are cases where something more interactive would be required. | 17:02 |
| otherwiseguy | amuller: re: "why are you working" http://i.imgur.com/CmfCgjo.png | 17:03 |
| sc68cal | otherwiseguy: lol | 17:03 |
| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, so e.g. in case of secgroups, would you be more glad to see two separate API endpoints that expose similar entities and then try to solve potential conflicts between them? | 17:03 |
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| otherwiseguy | sc68cal: I seem to remember people talking about things like network device hot plugging as an example. | 17:04 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: I'd prefer to see the simple usecases use the security group API for the host based access stuff, then the FWaaS API for the more complex | 17:05 |
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| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, FWaaS API on per instance level? | 17:05 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: or maybe have "zones" and then add instances to those Zones | 17:05 |
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| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: there's a spec floating around somewhere that introduces that, I think | 17:06 |
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| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, ok, I get your point. but that separate API has its own cost, in terms of new stuff to learn for users, making sure features behave properly in parallel, etc. Not saying it's particularly bad approach, but it's not free. | 17:07 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: Totally agree - this **** is HARD. :) | 17:07 |
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| ihrachyshka | :) ok, moving on to actual work | 17:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Saksham Varma proposed openstack/neutron: Moving out the cisco n1kv section to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/171451 | 18:13 |
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| anteaya | sc68cal: have you run the experiemental job on any patches yet? | 18:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: [DO NOT MERGE] Patch to test the new linux bridge job https://review.openstack.org/187235 | 18:15 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: I have, and uncovered some bugs - see ^ | 18:16 |
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| sc68cal | oops that's not the one - this is - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187271/ | 18:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Lavalle proposed openstack/neutron-specs: DNS resolution inside of Neutron using Nova instance name https://review.openstack.org/88623 | 18:17 |
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| anteaya | yay bugs! | 18:17 |
| sc68cal | it's mostly errors of omission | 18:18 |
| anteaya | a good place to begin | 18:19 |
| sc68cal | I'm going through and reducing the delta between OVS and LB - there is much in common IMO | 18:19 |
| sc68cal | in the context of devstack setup - for example both need a physical bridge | 18:19 |
| anteaya | and hopefully you are making edits to documentation as well if the docs don't spell out this config? | 18:19 |
| anteaya | apparently | 18:19 |
| sc68cal | I'd love to add more docs, but I need my backlog to clear up | 18:20 |
| sc68cal | https://review.openstack.org/166314 | 18:20 |
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| sc68cal | I have sort of a mini rant about how we "review" docs | 18:20 |
| sc68cal | I think most people dislike how nitpicky doc review patches people are, so they just go to the wiki | 18:20 |
| sc68cal | less friction | 18:20 |
| anteaya | let's chat with Sam-I-Am | 18:21 |
| anteaya | as he struck me as keen to improve things at summit | 18:21 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: I think he's still recovering from his appendectomy (sp?) | 18:21 |
| anteaya | and might be friendly toward a docs conversation | 18:21 |
| anteaya | oh, I didn't know | 18:21 |
| anteaya | I hope he is doing well | 18:21 |
| anteaya | yes let's leave him alone until he is back to work then | 18:21 |
| anteaya | thanks for letting me know | 18:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | howdy | 18:22 |
| anteaya | hi | 18:22 |
| anteaya | did you just have an operation? | 18:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep | 18:22 |
| anteaya | are you okay? | 18:22 |
| sc68cal | It's not really in his court - I mean patches to say neutron or devstack git repos, people nitpick stuff pretty hard. Yes, there is room for improvement on some stuff, but does it mean we're better off having no docus, rather than accepting a patch that maybe needs more work but at least gets us 80% of the way there? | 18:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | appendix decided to get angry on the way home from vancouver | 18:23 |
| anteaya | :( | 18:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | it came out last monday morning | 18:23 |
| anteaya | are you feeling alright? | 18:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | but all seems well with recovery. i think i was reading patch reviews in the hospital :) | 18:23 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 18:23 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: you are nuts. :) | 18:23 |
| anteaya | okay well no pressure, just trying to include you | 18:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: dedication, sir | 18:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | whats up guys? | 18:23 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: just created a new job that runs neutron with linuxbridge | 18:24 |
| anteaya | and he found some ommission | 18:24 |
| anteaya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187271/ | 18:24 |
| anteaya | like creating a physical bridge | 18:24 |
| anteaya | so I thought, why not include you in the conversation | 18:24 |
| anteaya | that way if we uncover some config getting the test going we are sure teh docs cover it | 18:24 |
| anteaya | Sam-I-Am: that okay with you? | 18:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looking | 18:25 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: I'm thinking if you create a consistent gerrit topic for this work | 18:25 |
| anteaya | like 'neutron-linuxbridge' or something | 18:25 |
| anteaya | then folks who want to follow your progress can do so with an easy gerrit query | 18:26 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: what do you think? | 18:26 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: good point - I think some of my patches to one git repo has that branch name | 18:26 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: I'll sync the others to that branch name as well | 18:26 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: can you change the rest to the same? | 18:26 |
| anteaya | thanks | 18:26 |
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| anteaya | Sam-I-Am: and if you create a docs patch that touches on any of this, can you use the same gerrit topic? | 18:26 |
| anteaya | that way folks can know | 18:27 |
| sc68cal | hmmm - gerrit changed the branch name for 187271 | 18:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | so... question | 18:27 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: git review -t neutron-linuxbridge | 18:27 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: see if that changes it back | 18:27 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: ah thanks | 18:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | usually the linuxbridge agent creates a bridge like brq# and attaches a bare interface to it... versus OVS which uses an ovs bridge that the user has to create. | 18:27 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: in a production neutron deployment, yes | 18:28 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: DevStack creates the br-ex device and in some configurations will automatically add the physical interface as well | 18:28 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: like provider networking ;) - http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/neutron.html | 18:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure | 18:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i havent seen a custom bridge created for linuxbridge deployments though | 18:30 |
| ijw | You dont need a custom one for LB, indeed | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Add RPC command to delete FloatingIP Agent GW Port https://review.openstack.org/159317 | 18:30 |
| ijw | it doesn't do the OVS thing of veth'ing toghether switches | 18:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah. in fact, you can't connect a bridge to a bridge | 18:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | unless you also create a veth pair :) | 18:31 |
| ijw | As the OVS plugin used to | 18:31 |
| ijw | (for OVS-LB linking, iirc) | 18:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | now, for testing purposes without additional real interface, it may make sense to use a manually created bridge on the host. | 18:32 |
| ijw | I do wonder if you can put an LB into an LB. I've never tried. | 18:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | not without a veth pair | 18:33 |
| ijw | That's what Neutron will attempt if you nominate an LB as an external interface | 18:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it breaks | 18:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | i had to work around these things in os-ansible-deployment because it uses linuxbridge and containers and host bridges | 18:33 |
| ijw | So per your comments then you'll end up creating LB and veth to give you an interface that you can then tell Neutron about - but unlike the OVS plugin Neutron will pretty much take it from there. | 18:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, iirc external_network_bridge in the l3 agent config doesnt work with linuxbridge | 18:34 |
| ijw | Yup, test says: device y is a bridge device itself; can't enslave a bridge device to a bridge device. | 18:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 18:34 |
| sc68cal | Basically it looks like there is more manual configuration that you need to do for Linux Bridge, in Devstack, compared to OVS. People have been submitting code for DevStack, targeting OVS, where a lot is done for you. There has been nothing done for Linux Bridge since there was no job testing patches | 18:35 |
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| sc68cal | I think we probably need to add the linux bridge job to the experimental queue for DevStack, then eventually make it voting, to stop this from happening in the future | 18:35 |
| ijw | Well, I would argue it's actually less manual configuration - but we run into this thing where LB likes interfaces and OVS likes switches | 18:35 |
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| sc68cal | for devstack changes | 18:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | so the way lb works is neutron creates brq### and attaches the interface from physical_interface_mappings in the lb config file | 18:36 |
| ijw | So you can't easily use the same variables for LB and OVS because they interface to the world differently | 18:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | vs ovs, which attaches to a bridge and its the end-user's responsibility to plug an interface into it | 18:36 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: I encourage a pre-patch discussion with mtreinish | 18:36 |
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| sc68cal | anteaya: will do | 18:37 |
| ijw | Sam-I-Am: weirder, iirc, from devstack - it makes your provider bridge, puts the interface in it, then gives that to Neutron | 18:37 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: he is getting sad at the number of jobs run against devstack | 18:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | (clarification - ovs attaches to an ovs bridge created by the end user, and the end user also has to plug an interface into it) | 18:37 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: thanks | 18:37 |
| ijw | Given the horridness of the OVS controller I do wonder how we've managed to stick with it for all this time | 18:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | ijw: http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/_images/scenario-legacy-lb-network1.png | 18:38 |
| ijw | The LB one may be faster, and may be slower, but it's certainly a hell of a lot easier to understand | 18:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats what happens with LB on the network (l3) node | 18:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | ijw: actually, this one is a bit more detailed - http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/_images/scenario-legacy-lb-network2.png | 18:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | ijw: 1:1 comparison with OVS - http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/_images/scenario-legacy-ovs-network2.png | 18:39 |
| ijw | Sam-I-Am: I promise you I've done more work with the LB setup than you have | 18:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh ok, i didnt know | 18:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | sort of trying to make it clearer in general for the discussion | 18:40 |
| ijw | Also, the LB ones are somewhat deceptive in that they're showing bridges that the OVS setup has as tagged port groups in the switch - not quite comparing like with like | 18:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so... | 18:42 |
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| anteaya | Sam-I-Am: so my main thing was this is to get the test running with devstack | 18:44 |
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| anteaya | and not that much will come of it that applies to production deployement | 18:45 |
| anteaya | but just to include you and have it on your radar in case anything useful for docs does come out of it | 18:45 |
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| anteaya | and for goodness sake take care of yourself | 18:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh | 18:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | probably need to update the docs for neutron gate tests with the linux bridge and/or ovs architecture | 18:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | whatever that architecture ends up looking like | 18:46 |
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| HenryG | armax: ping | 18:51 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: sounds good - I'd like to see some docs around the multi node testing, since it's basically space magic to me right now | 18:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | is there any multi-node going on now? | 18:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | or do we need to design something | 18:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Introduce address scopes https://review.openstack.org/180267 | 18:58 |
| mingy | In python-neutronclient, why does the test check-neutronclient-dsvm-functional appear to fail for most of the commits on review.openstack.org? | 19:00 |
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| armax | HenryG: pong | 19:07 |
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| HenryG | armax: still WIP, but have started putting the steps: https://review.openstack.org/187267 | 19:08 |
| armax | HenryG: yes, noted | 19:08 |
| armax | HenryG: thanks for kick-starting this..I have it in one of my tabs ;) | 19:09 |
| HenryG | armax: also https://review.openstack.org/187281 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Fix breakage in status reporting https://review.openstack.org/183724 | 19:10 |
| armax | HenryG: tabbed | 19:10 |
| HenryG | armax: :) how many tabs do you have now? | 19:11 |
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| armax | HenryG: still counting…hang on… :) | 19:14 |
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| ZZelle_ | HenryG, hi | 19:20 |
| tidwellr | ihrachyshka: ping | 19:22 |
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| HenryG | ZZelle_: hi | 19:24 |
| ZZelle_ | HenryG, https://review.openstack.org/187293 ! | 19:24 |
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| ZZelle_ | HenryG, neutron-*aas will support random hashseeds | 19:25 |
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| HenryG | Very nice ZZelle_! Great work getting all the tests fixed. Thanks! | 19:27 |
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| ZZelle_ | HenryG, when i look at some of the code i updated, i remember Ihar saying that we could improve our UT :s | 19:28 |
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| sc68cal | mestery: can you review the following devstack patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187271/ | 19:40 |
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| amuller | ZZelle_: ping about skipping tests | 19:41 |
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| mestery | sc68cal: looking | 19:42 |
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| ZZelle_ | amuller, pong | 19:42 |
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| amuller | ZZelle_: I discovered testtools decorator functions called skipIf and skipUnless | 19:42 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: the decorator accepts a function that determins if the test will be skipped or not | 19:43 |
| ZZelle_ | amuller, yes it's used by tempest | 19:43 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: it seems like we use skipTest exactly once during functional tests | 19:44 |
| amuller | in the arp matching test | 19:44 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: anyway, we'd like our own decorator that would skip only if the check fails AND the env variable that controls skipping is enabled | 19:45 |
| ZZelle_ | amuller, this one can become a skipIf/Unless decorator | 19:45 |
| ZZelle_ | amuller, there is also https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/5eddb2d274d69b7fd4b6242f37a6e815bb3f64ee/neutron/tests/functional/agent/linux/test_ovsdb_monitor.py#L55-L58 | 19:46 |
| sc68cal | mestery: that patch at least gets the linux bridge experimental job to the point where it runs tempest tests | 19:46 |
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| ZZelle_ | amuller, check_command raises a skipTest ... it could instead return a bool and be used a decorator with skipIf/Unless | 19:47 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: or even cut _check_test_requirements out and use its contents directly in the skipUnless | 19:48 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: did you check which env var we'd like to use to disallow skipping at the gate? | 19:48 |
| ZZelle_ | amuller, currently i didn't find an elegant way to detect skip | 19:49 |
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| amuller | ZZelle_: ok | 19:49 |
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| anteaya | mestery: is the neutron family getting together for a chat today or tomorrow morning? | 19:50 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: I'll look in to then | 19:50 |
| ZZelle_ | amuller, i am considering to change neutron.tests.base testcase to check there no skipTest is raised when OS_IS_GATE=1 | 19:51 |
| amuller | anteaya: I see it tomorrow at 10am EST | 19:51 |
| mestery | anteaya: Tomorrow morning, I'll send email to clarify it for folks. | 19:51 |
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| amuller | ZZelle_: I think the intention was just for functional tests | 19:51 |
| mestery | anteaya: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 19:51 |
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| amuller | ZZelle_: there's legitimate reasons to skip unit tests | 19:51 |
| anteaya | mestery: thank you | 19:51 |
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| ZZelle_ | amuller, OS_IS_GATE=1 only on dsvm-functional and fullstack jobs | 19:52 |
| ZZelle_ | amuller, but it disallows to skip a functional test until a bug is fixed :s | 19:52 |
| ZZelle_ | or same for fullstack test | 19:53 |
| ZZelle_ | same for fullstack test | 19:53 |
| ZZelle_ | amuller, the trouble is that functional tests don't inherit from a unique base testcase class :s | 19:54 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: yeah I'm seeing that now | 19:54 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: and full-stack and functional tests don't share a base class | 19:55 |
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| ZZelle_ | nope, neutron/tests/base seems the only common parent | 19:55 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: full-stack tests don't even inherit from that one though | 19:56 |
| ZZelle_ | amuller, so we need to define a specific decorator | 19:56 |
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| amuller | ZZelle_: looks like it | 19:56 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: I'll work on it now | 19:56 |
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| spandhe | kevinbenton: hey.. This is Shraddha from the summit.. I talked to you about Dnsmasq/dhcp driver.. have a question.. got a min? | 19:57 |
| ZZelle_ | amuller, i have already implemented the decorator approach | 19:58 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: ahh ok, did you push it? | 19:58 |
| ZZelle_ | amuller, nope | 19:58 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: you can push it and I'll push it further :) | 19:58 |
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| ZZelle_ | amuller, ok, let it find it in my reflog :s | 19:59 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: thank you | 19:59 |
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| debedb | trying to figure out how come my client requests just hang there; server seems to be running on 9696. I am running neutron server under a debugger but I don’t seem to hit any bp in URLMap or in RequestId… Who is handling those? | 20:16 |
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| spandhe | kevinbenton: hey.. with neutron and dhcp agent, I see that neutron creates ports for second and sometimes also third IP of the subnet.. any idea why? | 20:18 |
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| debedb | nm I needed to monkeypatch. | 20:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Modify ipset functional tests to pass on older machines https://review.openstack.org/186956 | 20:25 |
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| kevinbenton | spandhe: hey | 20:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: howdy | 20:35 |
| spandhe | hey kevinbenton ! have a question on dnsmasq.. | 20:35 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: do you mean that it creates multiple IPs, or just that the IP it gets is not the second one? | 20:35 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: hey | 20:35 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: what's up? | 20:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: we met at the end of the last session, just saying yo. | 20:35 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: it creates these two ports by default.. not always though.. but creates sometimes.. even though the IP is not assigned to any interface | 20:36 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: do you have multiple dhcp agents per network? | 20:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton: trying to stick around here a bit more as long as it doesn't negatively impact my health :) | 20:37 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: yes.. two | 20:37 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: yo! Matt, right? | 20:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep, thats me | 20:37 |
| kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: cool | 20:38 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: so i would expect two ports then to be created for each network | 20:38 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: even with 2 enabled, are you not seeing 2 all of the time? | 20:38 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: is there a way I can disable that behavior? | 20:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure no "agent" functional tests are skipped in the gate https://review.openstack.org/187323 | 20:38 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: well if you schedule to multiple agents, each one needs a port | 20:38 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: no, that actually explains why i am seeing this behavior.. | 20:39 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: I am running single dnsmasq process for all networks.. so the process is not running on any virtual interface.. its running on physical interfacce | 20:39 |
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| spandhe | so I am not creating any vifs for those IPs.. | 20:39 |
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| kevinbenton | spandhe: oh, so you want the dhcp server to run without taking an IP on each network? | 20:40 |
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| spandhe | kevinbenton yes.. | 20:40 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: there isn't a way to do that with the default dnsmasq driver | 20:41 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: it operates under the assumption that there will be overlapping IPs | 20:41 |
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| kevinbenton | spandhe: so it has to have a unique interface per network | 20:41 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: its neutron server thats doing it, right? | 20:41 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: no, it's the agent | 20:41 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: the dhcp agent | 20:41 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: that's the part that calls the server to create a dhcp port | 20:42 |
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| kevinbenton | spandhe: so you could write a different driver for the dhcp agent | 20:42 |
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| spandhe | kevinbenton: so the agent calls create port? intresting… | 20:42 |
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| kevinbenton | spandhe: yes, because as you highlighted, dhcp servers don't necessarily need a port | 20:42 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: is this the DeviceManage class thats doing this? | 20:42 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: one sec | 20:42 |
| amuller | spandhe: it is | 20:42 |
| amuller | spandhe: funny I'm just now reading that code | 20:43 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/linux/dhcp.py#L997 | 20:43 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: amuller interesting.. I have disabled all the calls to that driver.. | 20:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure no "agent" functional tests are skipped in the gate https://review.openstack.org/187323 | 20:43 |
| spandhe | because I basically dont want to setup any device.. | 20:44 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: btw looks like the agent rpc defines "get_dhcp_port" which is no longer used anywhere | 20:44 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: sorry the server defines that handler | 20:44 |
| spandhe | amuller: thanks! | 20:45 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: well you could just put a "raise Exception" right before that | 20:45 |
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| kevinbenton | spandhe: to see how the call is unexpectedly landing there | 20:45 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: when was the last time it was used? | 20:46 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I did not check | 20:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/182746 | 20:46 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: if it was something that was just recently removed, we need to leave it in so we can try to support the N-1 upgrade path for agents | 20:47 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: if you're busy, file a bug for it and I can look into it later | 20:47 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton, amuller: thanks! will try that.. I am starting to think something wrong with the setup, or patch not applied or something.. I will confirm with a clean start and let you know.. | 20:47 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I'll check the stable branches for the last few releases and file a bug | 20:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Implement routing networks in Neutron https://review.openstack.org/172244 | 20:49 |
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| kevinbenton | spandhe: sounds good | 20:51 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: when a dhcp instance is rescheduled, do the agents just delete the port and then recreate it somewhere else? | 20:52 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: ping | 20:52 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: you mean HA? | 20:52 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: do we have any special handling for 'rescheduling' or is it just an unschedule and then a schedule? | 20:52 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I don't know the answer to that question offhand but I'd bet on delete_port and create_port | 20:53 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: that's what i was asking you :) | 20:53 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I'm still looking into the previous thingie =D | 20:53 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: so get_port was last used in Havana, I guess it's been long enough :) I'll send a patch to remove that code | 20:53 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: no, this question was related to the RPC endpoint amuller was talking about | 20:53 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: sounds good | 20:54 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: ok.. | 20:54 |
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| ZZelle_ | amuller, i found it!, https://review.openstack.org/187323 | 20:57 |
| amuller | ZZelle_: thanks :) | 20:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] BGP Dynamic Routing: introduce entities https://review.openstack.org/115554 | 21:06 |
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| spandhe | kevinbenton: amuller qq… any idea why the agent needs to reload allocations if subnet info isnt changed? https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/dhcp/agent.py#L272-L273 | 21:13 |
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| kevinbenton | spandhe: dhcp options could change | 21:14 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: extra dhcp opts | 21:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python3: use six.iteritems() instead of dict.iteritems() https://review.openstack.org/184066 | 21:14 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: ok.. thanks.. so on subnet_update_end notification, if something changed in the subnet, update that.. | 21:14 |
| kevinbenton | spandhe: yeah, if anything changed except for the cidr, then just reload | 21:15 |
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| spandhe | kevinbenton: one scenario that I dont understand is, when subnet_delete_end notification is sent, its going to fall into this else right? https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/dhcp/agent.py#L278-L279 If there are more subnets in that network, why should it disable the helper? | 21:17 |
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| kevinbenton | spandhe: no, it will only fall into that else if there are no subnets on the network | 21:18 |
| spandhe | kevinbenton: ah. ok.. new_cidrs is all the CIDRs that currently exist on the network.. | 21:19 |
| spandhe | for a sec I thought its a diff.. | 21:19 |
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| kevinbenton | spandhe: right | 21:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Assaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Remove get_dhcp_port RPC method https://review.openstack.org/187345 | 21:20 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: ping | 21:21 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: yar | 21:21 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: i'm curious, what happens when a client connects to the server and there is an RPC version mismatch? | 21:21 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: does it just bail? | 21:21 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: nothing happens | 21:21 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: there is no attempt to match anything | 21:21 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: so is that version string there just to give us warm fuzzies? | 21:22 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: when a client sends a message it explicitly mentions what version it expects the server to be at | 21:22 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: only then is the version checked on the server | 21:22 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: if it's >=, awesome | 21:22 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: ok, cool | 21:22 |
| amuller | if not the client erupts in molten magma | 21:22 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: there isn't any semantic versioning we have to worry about, right? | 21:22 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: i.e. this major version change won't mess with things | 21:23 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I don't think bumping to a major version actually means anything if I understand the question | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: ok | 21:23 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I read the RPC upgrade guides it just says that if the change is not compatible then the RPC bump should be to the next major version | 21:23 |
| amuller | russellb: ^ | 21:23 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I'm not aware of any technical implications | 21:24 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: definitely makes sense | 21:24 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: but i want to make sure the server side doesn't make it automatically incompatible by comparing major versions :) | 21:24 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: we'll see when the test results come back I suppose | 21:24 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: do you know if the grenade scenario does anything after the upgrade? | 21:24 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I don't know if grenade does a "hot" upgrade or if it upgrades both the server and the agents at the same time? | 21:25 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: you know what let me just check this in my devstack | 21:25 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: well actually | 21:25 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: there's nothing to check, if tempest passes then we're good | 21:25 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: oh becaues the client side hasn't been updated? | 21:26 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: yeah, the client is identical to the client before this patch | 21:26 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: ack | 21:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | stephen-ma proposed openstack/neutron: Don't print RPC error traceback at L3 agent start https://review.openstack.org/186584 | 21:30 |
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| russellb | amuller: commented on the review | 21:45 |
| russellb | kevinbenton: if you have a 1.x client and 2.0 server, it will not work | 21:46 |
| russellb | they are considered incompatible | 21:46 |
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| amuller | russellb: so the tempest tests are expected to fail then | 21:47 |
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| amuller | russellb: all of the client methods are 1.x in this case | 21:47 |
| russellb | maybe, i'm not sure what jobs are configured | 21:47 |
| russellb | did a neutron live upgrade job already get configured? | 21:47 |
| amuller | russellb: just the normal job | 21:47 |
| amuller | russellb: no | 21:47 |
| russellb | oh | 21:47 |
| amuller | russellb: but the normal job should catch this | 21:47 |
| russellb | i see, you didn't fix the client side | 21:47 |
| russellb | then yeah, it should fail | 21:47 |
| amuller | russellb: yeah there's nothing to change in the client in this case | 21:47 |
| amuller | russellb: ok so I'll wait for Tempest to fail because I'm curious | 21:48 |
| amuller | russellb: then I'll just bump the minor version on the server instead | 21:48 |
| russellb | if it doesn't fail, something is suspicious :-) | 21:48 |
| amuller | russellb: ack :) | 21:48 |
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| russellb | thanks for the ping! | 21:49 |
| amuller | russellb: oslo messaging code should throw exceptions? | 21:49 |
| amuller | russellb: thanks for being responsive! | 21:49 |
| russellb | amuller: on the server side, yes | 21:49 |
| russellb | it should raise some sort of version exception | 21:49 |
| russellb | rpc client will only see it if it was call() and not cast() | 21:49 |
| russellb | in this case, i agree a minor version bump is fine, since you're removing something so old | 21:49 |
| russellb | it's not exactly in line with the version rules, but meh | 21:50 |
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| russellb | would only matter if some out of tree code was using that method | 21:50 |
| amuller | russellb: we don't really have an alternative | 21:50 |
| amuller | russellb: well apart from never removing the code | 21:50 |
| russellb | there is a way | 21:50 |
| russellb | you have a temporary period where you support both 1.x and 2.0 | 21:50 |
| russellb | typically done right over a release boundary, (just before Kilo release for example), and then you can remove the transition code after branching | 21:51 |
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| russellb | but anyway, would avoid it unless really required :) | 21:51 |
| amuller | russellb: doesn't make sense in this case does it? | 21:51 |
| russellb | no | 21:51 |
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| russellb | amuller: disappearing for the day ... ttyl! | 21:52 |
| amuller | russellb: Have a good one, thanks again | 21:52 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: wait! | 21:53 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: do you have 5 more mins? | 21:53 |
| russellb | ! | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: just curious about how the multi-version support works | 21:53 |
| russellb | oh, sure | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: do we just have 2 classes with different versions and methods? | 21:53 |
| russellb | i think i documented this onetime | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: or what does it look like? | 21:53 |
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| russellb | well, i'm not sure there is an official way, but there's a way i've done it in the past | 21:53 |
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| russellb | add a new class that's 2.0, implementation passes through to 1.0 (converting params or whatever as needed) | 21:54 |
| russellb | expose both classes | 21:54 |
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| russellb | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/RpcMajorVersionUpdates | 21:54 |
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| russellb | kevinbenton: ^ | 21:55 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: ok. so you can just expose multiple versions of the same interface | 21:55 |
| russellb | yes | 21:56 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: thanks. you're free now :) | 21:56 |
| russellb | and the rpc server side will look for an endpoint that exposes the right version to handle the request | 21:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Louis Fourie proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron API for Service Chaining https://review.openstack.org/177946 | 21:57 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: we really should get a job going that tests upgrading the server and then the agents, like nova does | 21:57 |
| russellb | +1 | 21:57 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: definitely, and launching a vm and testing connectivity at each step | 21:57 |
| russellb | i was going to volunteer for that if nobody else wanted it (from the nova-network -> neutron task list for this cycle) | 21:57 |
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| russellb | I don't think it'll be too difficult | 21:58 |
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| amuller | russellb: I'm not aware of any volunteers :) | 21:58 |
| amuller | russellb: It'd be amazing if you wanted to do that | 21:58 |
| kevinbenton | russellb: jump on that grenade for us! | 21:58 |
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| russellb | heh, "happy" to | 21:58 |
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| russellb | i feel like I owe it after completely breaking it last cycle :-p | 21:59 |
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| russellb | even though i'm also not so secretly trying to make it so you don't have to run an agent on compute nodes anymore :-p | 21:59 |
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| russellb | but that's further off of course ... | 22:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Python 3: use six.iteritems instead of dict.items https://review.openstack.org/187356 | 22:02 |
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| kevinbenton | russellb: well this one is the dhcp agent, ovn still uses that, right? | 22:08 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: their plan is to get rid of the dhcp, l3 and metadata agents as well | 22:10 |
| amuller | some day | 22:10 |
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| salv-orlando | a plan which must be orchestrated by some evil mastermind, I guess | 22:13 |
| salv-orlando | how can one not love the neutron agents, they're so cute, and endangered like pandas | 22:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Python 3: use six.iteritems instead of dict.items https://review.openstack.org/187364 | 22:16 |
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| ratalevolamena | hi guys | 22:20 |
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| kevinbenton | amuller: where is all of the dhcp option logic going to sit? | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: putting that in OVS seems like scope creep | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: :) | 22:22 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: I'm not really involved in OVN, just distant rumors I heard | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: we can make the agents not respond to a regular kill command and instead print a "neutron agents are endangered" output | 22:23 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: off for today, toodles | 22:24 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: ack, ttyl | 22:24 |
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| debedb | how do I enable (and config?) the ipam driver? | 23:10 |
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| spandhe | kevinbenton: I think the extra port issue was a one-off.. not seeing it anymore.. | 23:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Don't delete port from bridge on delete_port event https://review.openstack.org/179314 | 23:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Don't update floating IP status if no change https://review.openstack.org/174815 | 23:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Implement IPAM Driver loader https://review.openstack.org/147479 | 23:29 |
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| aduarte | does anyone know how to enable ha for the routers from devstack local.conf? | 23:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/182746 | 23:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Tidwell proposed openstack/neutron: BGP Dynamic Routing: introduce entities https://review.openstack.org/115554 | 23:37 |
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