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| norman | Hi experts, what's the reason that loss packets for floating ip ,but not for the internal pair private ip? | 05:03 |
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| norman | I have a 3 controler(HA) + n compute env, and today I found that the floating ip is not stable , but if I ping the fixed ip in the qrouter-xx namespace, it works well | 05:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Add a non-mixin function for model queries https://review.openstack.org/188445 | 13:02 |
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| pavel_bondar | ihrachyshka, hi | 13:17 |
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| pavel_bondar | ihrachyshka, could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187961/ ? I hope it is pretty ready to be merged | 13:36 |
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| moshele | vikram__: hi | 14:51 |
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| pc_m | blogan: ping | 15:09 |
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| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin, hi | 15:28 |
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| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: hi | 15:28 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin, I have finished decomposition, so now it is ready for review | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: I’m finishing up the review on 187961 | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: I will start on the others. Thanks for the ping. | 15:30 |
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| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: nice, thanks! | 15:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | Thank you. | 15:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Changes in rally-jobs/README.rst https://review.openstack.org/188398 | 16:25 |
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| blogan | pc_m: pong | 16:27 |
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| pc_m | blogan: hi. Wondered if you had some time available today. I wanted to ask some questions about LBaaS and certificates. | 16:29 |
| blogan | pc_m: sure! | 16:30 |
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| blogan | pc_m: anytime | 16:30 |
| blogan | (right now is fine) | 16:30 |
| pc_m | cool! | 16:30 |
| pc_m | blogan: given the # of questions, do you want to talk via phone, skype, google voice? | 16:31 |
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| blogan | pc_m: lets try irc at first, i may have to bring in others to answer some of the questions | 16:35 |
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| pc_m | blogan: sure. | 16:36 |
| pc_m | blogan: So one question is... for LB, where is the certificate used? I looked at some of the commands, and I don't see a mention of certificate. | 16:37 |
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| pc_m | blogan: I see it in the code, seems to be related to listener (I'm total ignorant of LB). | 16:46 |
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| dougwig | pc_m: its' attached to the listener, which is the bind port (ip from lb), just a barbican id, plugin retrieves, it's saved into the haproxy config. | 16:55 |
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| pc_m | blogan: dougwig: Just so I can get a picture of this... is there any doc/wiki/etc that describes how one would use the certificate? How to create one, how to associate it with listener(?), from a user perspective? | 16:58 |
| dougwig | pc_m: how you create a cert, see barbican. for the rest, see here: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs/blob/master/specs/kilo/lbaas-tls.rst | 16:59 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: For LB, does the cert ID get persisted in the database? | 17:02 |
| dougwig | the barbican id, yes. | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Decompose db_base_plugin_v2.py https://review.openstack.org/187961 | 17:03 |
| pc_m | dougwig: I take it then, when the driver needs the private key it uses that ID and calls barbican to get the key? | 17:03 |
| dougwig | pc_m: it's up to the driver. the plugin grabs the cert and sends the id and cert info to the driver, which can persist it or fetch it on the fly depending on how it's implemented. | 17:04 |
| pc_m | dougwig: I need to figure out how to blend that with the *Swan, whose config file seems to take a private key filename. | 17:05 |
| pc_m | The VPN device driver creates a config file for *Swan and provides the name of the file with the key (someKey.pem) | 17:06 |
| dougwig | pc_m: you can either write the data and reference it, which is what the haproxy driver does, or write it, fire up swan, then nuke and scrub the file, and make it do that on every start. | 17:07 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: gotcha. | 17:09 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: Do you know if there is a way to create local certificates? I'm thinking for testing purposes, creating some dummy certificates and then using them to create a connection and then test pings (this would be added to functional test)? | 17:10 |
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| dougwig | pc_m: i believe that adam used a certmanager abstraction, which lets us use a local backend instead of barbican: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lbaas/tree/master/neutron_lbaas/common/cert_manager | 17:12 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, hey sir. since you're now the lieutenant, I have a question to you on deprecation warnings in neutron. | 17:12 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, we have some code that emits DeprecationWarnings. they are not shown in service logs, but in test runs only, in stderr. so everyone ignores them. we have a way to enable them as failures, but then there is a chance to be gate broken on some external library release that would deprecate something we use. | 17:14 |
| ihrachyshka | I talked to keystone guys, and they have it enabled, and are happy with it | 17:14 |
| pc_m | dougwig: Seems like VPN would want to do exactly the same thing as the files in that area. Think they should be made common and placed somewhere (where?)? | 17:14 |
| ihrachyshka | since it does not occur frequently, you can always temporarily disable the fatality, and you are forced to fix the isssue | 17:14 |
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| ihrachyshka | now, the question is: do we want to follow the example? or are we too scared to be externally broken in those cases? | 17:15 |
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| pc_m | dougwig: thanks for the info. I'll look at the web pages and try to learn how to configure this from a user perspective as well, so I better understand how it is set up. | 17:25 |
| * pavel_bondar is looking for the second core reviewer for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188754/ (have already one +2) | 17:25 | |
| pc_m | dougwig: Oh, so where do I see the certificate used in the LB CLI? | 17:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor awkward logic in setup_dhcp_port https://review.openstack.org/188614 | 17:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor awkward logic in setup_dhcp_port https://review.openstack.org/188614 | 17:40 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: sorry was afk | 17:41 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: can you link the tests that emit the warning? | 17:42 |
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| ihrachyshka | amuller, f.e. neutron.tests.unit.plugins.openvswitch.test_agent_scheduler.OvsL3AgentNotifierTestCase.test_agent_registration_bad_timestamp | 17:42 |
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| amuller | ihrachyshka: Are we talking only about deprecation warnings for oslo libraries? i.e. these warnings should be read by openstack developers, not operators? | 17:52 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, right. but it's not ONLY oslo, other warnings also apply | 17:52 |
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| amuller | ihrachyshka: like? | 17:52 |
| ihrachyshka | for example, py26 old constructions, like BaseException.message access | 17:52 |
| ihrachyshka | py34 should have more deprecations syntax wise | 17:53 |
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| ZZelle | armax, hi | 17:53 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: so you want to fail tests as a way to flag Neutron developers to change from incubated libraries to graduated Oslo libraries? | 17:53 |
| armax | ZZelle: hi | 17:54 |
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| ZZelle | armax, about vendor decomposition, where should live vendor endpoints? | 17:54 |
| ZZelle | armax, typically when i see nexus_vlan https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/setup.cfg#L165 https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/cisco/nexus/type_nexus_vxlan.py | 17:55 |
| ZZelle | it seems strange to define nexus_vlan endpoint in neutron when we can define it its stackforge project | 17:55 |
| armax | ZZelle: yes, that’s question that has come up in the past | 17:56 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, nah, it's not about incubation, at all | 17:56 |
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| HenryG | ZZelle: armax: I think we agree that we will move those out of tree this cycle. | 17:56 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: Then I don't understand what problem you're trying to solve | 17:56 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, libraries may deprecate API, and we don't react on that in time | 17:56 |
| ihrachyshka | because it does not break anything | 17:56 |
| armax | ZZelle: if we can guarantee that the entry point is visible to neutron, even if it’s specified elsewhere then that’s our answer | 17:56 |
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| ihrachyshka | amuller, so once a new release that *actually* removes deprecated API is there, we are broken | 17:57 |
| ZZelle | armax, HenryG, endpoint scope is global not per package so an out of tree project can define neutron plugin/mechanism/... endpoints | 17:57 |
| armax | ZZelle: I have been meaning to play with these a bit | 17:57 |
| ihrachyshka | I'm not sure we want to break gate due to deprecations, but there should be a visible way to show that we use deprecated symbols | 17:57 |
| HenryG | armax: Someone told me the entrypoints are global | 17:57 |
| ZZelle | it's me :) | 17:58 |
| armax | ZZelle, HenryG: cool | 17:58 |
| ihrachyshka | maybe going into logs and checking manually is the way to go, I don't know | 17:58 |
| HenryG | Yeah :) | 17:58 |
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| armax | so I think the answer is simple: they should be colocated to where the code should live | 17:58 |
| HenryG | Well, global to the python env that they are installed in | 17:58 |
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| ZZelle | HenryG, as "we will move", "we" is neutron/cisco (as it concerns must of out-of-tree drivers) | 17:59 |
| armax | HenryG: do we know how potential conflicts are handed? | 17:59 |
| armax | handled | 17:59 |
| HenryG | ZZelle: I am writing the doc, the owners should do most of the work | 17:59 |
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| ZZelle | HenryG, ok | 17:59 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: when we copy from global requirements and bump a library, CI will fail on that patch and it won't be merged | 18:00 |
| HenryG | armax: I was going to ask ZZelle | 18:00 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: so we're not actually releasing anything broken, CI is doing its job | 18:00 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: you want to fail earlier on the deprecation warning instead of the deprecation itself | 18:00 |
| ZZelle | armax, no idea how endpoint conflicts are handled | 18:00 |
| armax | HenryG: I have been meaning to answer these questions myself but I never find the time :( | 18:00 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: is that fair? | 18:00 |
| HenryG | OK, I'll try a conflict experiment and see what happens | 18:01 |
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| ZZelle | armax, HenryG, i will check but a priori the last endpoint definition wins | 18:01 |
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| ihrachyshka | amuller, we don't cap libraries, so a release breaks us | 18:01 |
| armax | ZZelle: seems reasonable | 18:01 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: how do stable branches use the correct Oslo library version if we don't cap? | 18:02 |
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| ihrachyshka | amuller, stable, yes, we cap there. not for master though | 18:04 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: forgetting about the stable branches for a sec, this seems like a wrong way to operate. When a new oslo library releases we should run CI with it and pin to the new version if it passes, no? | 18:04 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: then if it fails you calmy fix the issue, recheck until you pass, then merge it | 18:05 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, we don't run CI, so each oslo release (and any external library release) can break us | 18:05 |
| ihrachyshka | for master it's justified as follows: we should push developers to fix for latest releases, so that master works in larger ecosystem | 18:06 |
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| amuller | "so that master works in larger ecosystem", sorry what do you mean? | 18:09 |
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| ihrachyshka | amuller, so that master works with new releases of python libraries it uses and does not lag. | 18:11 |
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| HenryG | ZZelle: armax: confirmed, the last installed entrypoint wins by overwriting if a conflicting one exists | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Add DB support for resource usage tracking https://review.openstack.org/188608 | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Add a "light" base test class for DB tests https://review.openstack.org/188514 | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Create packages for quota modules https://review.openstack.org/188618 | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce usage data tracking for Neutron https://review.openstack.org/188883 | 18:12 |
| armax | HenryG: sweet | 18:12 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, I guess it all comes to the fact that no one cares about an issue if/until gate is not broken :) | 18:13 |
| ihrachyshka | so if we allow devs to fix later, they don't fix | 18:13 |
| HenryG | armax: not sure how sweet. Operators will need to be careful when installing multiple drivers? | 18:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Make _val_to_py and _py_to_val not private https://review.openstack.org/188380 | 18:13 |
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| armax | HenryG: well, the overlap can exist today already | 18:14 |
| blogan | pc_m: sorry i got pulled into impromptu meeting | 18:14 |
| blogan | pc_m: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS/docs/how-to-create-tls-loadbalancer | 18:14 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: ideally we'd have a strong mechanism to flag that you're using deprecated code and you're going to break soon, so you know before you break | 18:14 |
| blogan | pc_m: that gives you a decent workflow of what to do | 18:14 |
| armax | HenryG: the chance that two multiple drivers end up conflicting with each other are pretty slim IMO | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Enable resource usage tracking for "reference" plugins. https://review.openstack.org/188884 | 18:14 |
| ZZelle | HenryG, armax, according to pkg_resources is unclear (https://pythonhosted.org/setuptools/pkg_resources.html#entry-points), stevedore is responsible for choosing the right one | 18:14 |
| armax | HenryG: unless they end up being roughly the same | 18:14 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: (And failing the Neutron gate is kind of extreme) | 18:15 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, I agree. non-voting job? | 18:15 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, if we would be able to have more states of a job than just FAIL or SUCCESS... | 18:15 |
| ihrachyshka | like 'PASSED WITH WARNINGS' | 18:15 |
| ihrachyshka | orange | 18:15 |
| ihrachyshka | then it would be a lot more visible | 18:16 |
| pc_m | blogan: Thanks. I got some answers from Doug. I've got some reading to do... | 18:16 |
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| blogan | pc_m: yeah dougwig explained it well, sometimes he does know what he's talking about | 18:16 |
| blogan | pc_m: not often though | 18:16 |
| pc_m | :) | 18:16 |
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| armax | HenryG: but I would imagine that that can be spotted before we actually ending up hitting the operator | 18:17 |
| HenryG | armax: I see two scenarios for conflicts ... | 18:18 |
| ZZelle | HenryG, armax, perhaps we should advice vendors for new entrypoints to add vendor/product name in entrypoint names? | 18:18 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: is it enough to run only the unit tests in this new job? | 18:18 |
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| amuller | ihrachyshka: and that job would treat deprecation warnings as failures | 18:18 |
| armax | ZZelle: but isn’t that a sensible practice already? | 18:19 |
| claudiub | hello | 18:19 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: and it'd be non-voting | 18:19 |
| HenryG | 1) a plugin/driver redefines a neutron entrypoint (probably intentional) | 18:19 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, well... ideally yes, though we have code that is not properly covered | 18:19 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: if it ran only unit tests people would pay attention (I hope) because our unit tests are very reliable | 18:19 |
| claudiub | I have a question: is there any way to tell neutron to (try to) rebind a port? | 18:19 |
| HenryG | 2) a plugin/driver entrypoint has the same name as another plugin/driver entrypoint | 18:19 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, also, we now have py34 job that potentially will catch more warnings | 18:20 |
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| dougwig | blogan: i love you too. :) | 18:20 |
| HenryG | armax: It's only 2) we want to help mitigate, right? | 18:20 |
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| armax | HenryG: my opinion is that 2) can rarely happen, I wouldn’t want to put a lot on process and burden in place just to deal with the exception, rather than the norm | 18:21 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: we can fix the coverage issues with unit tests, correct me if I'm wrong? | 18:21 |
| blogan | dougwig: i know you do :) | 18:21 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: I'd be much happier with this solution than treating deprecation warnings as failures on our voting jobs | 18:21 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: as long as we don't need the functional, fullstack or tempest, because if this non-voting job is not reliable no one will pay attention to it | 18:22 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, yeah, but again, unless we gate on it, it's not really visible whether we cover enough. :) | 18:23 |
| ihrachyshka | ok, I get that gating is not an option | 18:23 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: it is it's just not a great one | 18:23 |
| HenryG | armax: I was thinking of putting a note in the doc, nothing more. | 18:23 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: it is better than the current situation | 18:23 |
| armax | HenryG: then we’re good ;) | 18:23 |
| ZZelle | armax, yes, but when entrypoints will be splitted over many setup.cfg it will be less obvious that out-of-tree could have entrypoint name conflicts | 18:23 |
| ihrachyshka | maybe a manual way to enable fatality and someone checking periodically will be enough for the start | 18:23 |
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| armax | ZZelle: less obvious, but not necessarily more frequent | 18:24 |
| armax | ZZelle: so what are we worrying about? I am not sure.. | 18:24 |
| ihrachyshka | let's just introduce a way to enforce failures with an envvar as a first step | 18:24 |
| ZZelle | armax, fear the worse, hope for the best :) | 18:25 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: second step would be to setup a job that turns on that envvar yes? it could start as periodic, then move to the check gate as non-voting | 18:26 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: Do you want to communicate that on the mailing list and see what people from other communities think? | 18:26 |
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| ihrachyshka | amuller, yeah, I will probably do it, on Mon :) | 18:26 |
| armax | ZZelle: I’d rather use that attidute for something more likely to happen, but I’d praise your effort if you can come up with something lightweight that can preserve sanity | 18:26 |
| ihrachyshka | I have some patches to fix all current warnings in my tree, but I will postpone sending them till Mon, too :) | 18:26 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: Yeah it is a tad late over there isn't =D | 18:27 |
| ihrachyshka | it's too late here not to fail when uploading any patch for review :D | 18:27 |
| amuller | hehe | 18:27 |
| ZZelle | armax, will try | 18:28 |
| ihrachyshka | amuller, thanks for the chat. cu | 18:28 |
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| armax | ZZelle: my recommendation would be to save time and energy for something more important, but have at it! | 18:28 |
| ZZelle | armax, AH! i remember i forgot to address one of your remark | 18:29 |
| amuller | ihrachyshka: cya! | 18:32 |
| ZZelle | armax, about your last comment on https://review.openstack.org/143412, i am not sure how and where in doc we should document fixtures for functional/fullstack tests | 18:32 |
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| armax | ZZelle: I’ll defer to our testing Lt in charge, amuller | 18:33 |
| ZZelle | :) | 18:34 |
| armax | :) | 18:34 |
| armax | but anywhere is better than nowhere ;) | 18:34 |
| amuller | ZZelle: the new devref for fullstack tests, new section at the bottom | 18:34 |
| amuller | ZZelle: that's for fullstack fixtures | 18:34 |
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| amuller | ZZelle: you're talking about generic fixtures that are used in the fullstack and functional tests themselves? | 18:35 |
| amuller | ZZelle: why not the docstring for the fixture class? | 18:35 |
| ZZelle | amuller, docstrings are already done iirc | 18:36 |
| amuller | ZZelle: ok, can you give me an example of a fixture and what information you'd like to add? | 18:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Decompose db_base_plugin_v2.py part 2 https://review.openstack.org/188754 | 18:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Start linuxbridge neutron agent using a launcher https://review.openstack.org/188407 | 18:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP in ovs neutron agent https://review.openstack.org/187174 | 18:37 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/common/net_helpers.py but the aim is to document as with all fullstack fixtures it becomes difficult to understand what does what even for new comers | 18:38 |
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| amuller | ZZelle: I think expanding the docstring with more info would be the best place | 18:39 |
| ZZelle | amuller, ok | 18:40 |
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| amuller | ZZelle: I appreciate the work :) I'll try to speed along that patch | 18:44 |
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| claudiub | hello. I have a question: is there any way to tell neutron to (try to) rebind a port? | 18:47 |
| amuller | claudiub: you mean a port that's failed binding? | 18:48 |
| claudiub | amuller: yeah | 18:48 |
| amuller | claudiub: Nope! Please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1399249 and it's patch in review | 18:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1399249 in neutron "Neutron openvswitch-agent doesn't recover ports from binding_failed status" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 18:48 |
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| amuller | claudiub: I just bumped that bug from medium to high | 18:48 |
| amuller | claudiub: ran in to this issue yesterday again myself | 18:48 |
| amuller | claudiub: after that's fixed if you restart the OVS agent it will try to rebind. Not ideal but it's better than what we have now which is editing the port state in the DB manually back to unbound (And then restarting the OVS agent) | 18:49 |
| claudiub | amuller: actually, I've been having that issue for a looong time. | 18:49 |
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| amuller | claudiub: yes this is a very longstanding issue | 18:49 |
| amuller | claudiub: it's not new | 18:49 |
| claudiub | amuller: ovs agent or neutron-server? | 18:49 |
| amuller | claudiub: ovs agent | 18:50 |
| claudiub | afaik q-svc was doing the port-binding. | 18:50 |
| amuller | claudiub: you're correct, it does the port binding when the OVS agent asks it | 18:50 |
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| amuller | claudiub: OVS agent detects a port, queries the server for details, which is when the server tries to bind it. Right now if it's in failed it doesn't try, with Ihar's patch it will try again every time it's asked to. | 18:51 |
| amuller | claudiub: this together with work that is planned to cause OVS agent restart to not disrupt the data plane should work nicely together | 18:52 |
| claudiub | amuller: Ah, excellent then. | 18:52 |
| claudiub | amuller: then that will also work with hyper-v agent as well | 18:52 |
| amuller | claudiub: it should yes | 18:52 |
| claudiub | amuller: it has the same workflow, so I don't see why it should't. I'll check that patch anyways and see what happens. :) | 18:53 |
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| amuller | claudiub: if you could say in the bug report that this affects you as well that'd be great | 18:53 |
| claudiub | I suppose the patch will be backported, right? | 18:53 |
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| amuller | claudiub: it should be yes | 18:54 |
| amuller | claudiub: I see that the patch is in merge conflict keep that in mind, if you want to test it out | 18:54 |
| claudiub | amuller: Ok, sure. thanks! | 18:55 |
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| amuller | claudiub: sure thing | 18:55 |
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| ajo | amuller, thinking about the ovs agent port rebinding... | 20:54 |
| ajo | I was just reading... | 20:54 |
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| amuller | ajo: isn't it 11pm over there? | 20:54 |
| ajo | what if we captured a signal to make it re-scan and retry port binding, or other retriable stuff? | 20:54 |
| ajo | amuller :) | 20:54 |
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| ajo | amuller yep | 20:54 |
| ajo | got the kids to sleep | 20:54 |
| ajo | hi ivar-lazzaro ;) how're you doing man? :) | 20:55 |
| amuller | ajo: currently the issue is that if a port failed binding in the server and you restart the OVS agent, the OVS agent asks the server to try to bind again but the server declines because the port is in failed mode | 20:55 |
| amuller | ajo: as if a port failed binding once so there's no point ever trying again | 20:55 |
| amuller | which is what Ihar's patch changes | 20:55 |
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| ajo | amuller, yes, I understood, | 20:55 |
| amuller | ajo: you're talking about avoiding having to restart the OVS agent? | 20:55 |
| ajo | amuller, but still, if we could make the agents to accept some signal to make them re-loop re-try stuff... we could get it retried without agent restart :) | 20:56 |
| ajo | just a friendly unix signal :) | 20:56 |
| ajo | as for those guru reports they're proposing from oslo | 20:56 |
| amuller | ajo: We had plans to make the OVS agent restart not affect the data plane no? | 20:56 |
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| amuller | ajo: That's what I was counting on | 20:56 |
| ajo | amuller, yes, that'd be actually better, but slower, | 20:56 |
| amuller | yeah | 20:56 |
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| ajo | amuller in fact, we must better spend our time fixing the reboot/dataplane disruption issue | 20:57 |
| ajo | I agree | 20:57 |
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| amuller | ajo: yeah I think it's a higher priority item. But even if we had that, you're saying send a signal that would scan all ports in error state and try to rebind them, while not affecting anything else. | 20:57 |
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| ajo | amuller, correct, we could do that I think | 20:57 |
| amuller | it's a good idea but imo the first item is more important right now | 20:58 |
| ajo | amuller, I agree | 20:58 |
| amuller | ajo: did anyone commit to do it after all of the talks? | 20:58 |
| amuller | ajo: I don't remember | 20:58 |
| ajo | amuller, let me check the bug, I believe we didn't | 20:58 |
| ajo | amuller, at least now we have an strategy with the cookies | 20:58 |
| amuller | ajo: did anyone write that down somewhere publically? | 20:59 |
| amuller | ajo: the thing with the cookies | 20:59 |
| amuller | ajo: otherwise it will be forgotten | 20:59 |
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| ajo | amuller, there was also a patch to ovs (not sure if accepted) to do atomic rule changes via openflow | 20:59 |
| ajo | that'd be amazing, but that's not for now :) | 20:59 |
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| ajo | amuller: https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openvswitch.org/msg46143.html | 21:00 |
| ajo | amuller, let me look for the bug, and let's make a note | 21:00 |
| amuller | ajo: thank you | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Clean only floating-ip related connection states https://review.openstack.org/180765 | 21:01 |
| ajo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1383674 | 21:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1383674 in neutron "Restarting neutron openvswitch agent causes network hiccup by throwing away all flows" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Eugene Nikanorov (enikanorov) | 21:02 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, iirc, the trouble is more general | 21:13 |
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| amuller | ZZelle: More than just the flows, or what do you mean? | 21:17 |
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| ZZelle | amuller, iirc, when the vm port status is binding_failed, it's not more possible to change it even with LB | 21:17 |
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| amuller | ZZelle: yeah because that code is in the server | 21:17 |
| amuller | ZZelle: the server just won't try to bind a port again if it's in failed state, no matter the l2 agent | 21:17 |
| ZZelle | we discover it when moving from OVS to LB on our OS | 21:17 |
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| spandhe | can two ports in neutron have same IP from same network (sharent networks, no overlapping IPs) | 22:06 |
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| spandhe | shared* | 22:07 |
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| ZZelle | spandhe, no | 22:10 |
| spandhe | ZZelle: ok. thanks.. I see that a port can not have multiple mac addresses either.. | 22:11 |
| ZZelle | spandhe, no overlapping IPs implies an IP is used at most once | 22:11 |
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| spandhe | ZZelle: right.. I have a weird requirement in front of me :) trying to see how closely I can fit it in existing implementation.. | 22:12 |
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| spandhe | My use case is only for bare metal (Ironic).. The baremetal nodes have multiple NIC cards.. site operations team can plug any of them into the switch randomly.. so when the node comes up and send DHCP, the DHCP server needs to send the same IP, irrespective of MAC.. (I have static mapping and I am telling Neutron which IP to assign upfront) | 22:15 |
| spandhe | ZZelle: ^ | 22:15 |
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| spandhe | so basically only one IP for the host and not one IP per port.. | 22:16 |
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| ZZelle | spandhe, but the host IP can be different from port IP :) | 22:18 |
| spandhe | ZZelle: didnt get it.. how? | 22:19 |
| ZZelle | spandhe, can you add a script in bm nodes? | 22:20 |
| spandhe | ZZelle: yes I can.. what kind of script are you suggesting? | 22:20 |
| ZZelle | spandhe, create a network with 3 subnets: 10.0.0.0/24 (with an empty allocation pool), 10.0.1.0/24, 10.0.2.0/24 | 22:21 |
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| ZZelle | spandhe, create a network with 3 subnets: 10.0.0.0/24 (with an empty allocation pool), 10.0.1.0/24, 10.0.2.0/24 | 22:22 |
| spandhe | ZZelle: ok.. and then? | 22:23 |
| ZZelle | spandhe, create bm node: port1 with ip 10.0.1.X/24, port2 with 10.0.2.X/24 | 22:23 |
| spandhe | ok.. | 22:24 |
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| spandhe | ZZelle: and then? only one of them is going to be an actual physical network.. | 22:26 |
| ZZelle | spandhe, on bm node, one interface will be up with an ip 10.0.(1|2).X/24 | 22:26 |
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| spandhe | right.. | 22:26 |
| ZZelle | spandhe, use a script in bm to get this interface ethZ and ip 10.0.Y.Z/24 and set the ip 10.0.0.X/25 on it | 22:27 |
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| ZZelle | oups 10.0.0.X/24 on ethZ or ethZ:bis | 22:28 |
| spandhe | ZZelle.. ok.. thanks.. I dont know how I can do this during pxe boot though.. not sure if its doable, but I can check.. | 22:29 |
| ZZelle | sprandhe, an other solution is to define 2 networks with the same subnet | 22:29 |
| ZZelle | sprandhe, and brakes isolation between the 2 networks | 22:30 |
| ZZelle | breaks | 22:30 |
| ZZelle | spandhe, ^ | 22:31 |
| spandhe | ZZelle: ok… that might work.. ill try that.. thanks!!! | 22:32 |
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