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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Python 3: do not index a dict_values object https://review.openstack.org/184469 | 09:35 |
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| haigang | hi,there. | 09:43 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: ping | 12:02 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: https://review.openstack.org/176019 - see latest comment by akamyshnikova | 12:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: Adds base in-tree functional testing of the ovs_neutron_agent https://review.openstack.org/140042 | 13:39 |
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| ajo | hi mestery :) available here from now to now+1.5h at least ;) | 13:39 |
| mestery | ajo: Hi sir! | 13:40 |
| mestery | Good afternoon! | 13:40 |
| ajo | hi hi :) | 13:40 |
| mestery | lol | 13:41 |
| mestery | So, feature branch for QoS work. | 13:41 |
| ajo | mestery, correct, how do we do it, do you just need to create it ? | 13:41 |
| mestery | ajo: Correct, I can just create it (or rather, have release engineering create it). | 13:42 |
| mestery | ajo: So, I can have that branch created and we can have a plan to then merge master into it weekly. | 13:42 |
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| mestery | ajo: Does that make sense and sound ok? | 13:42 |
| ajo | mestery it makes total sense, | 13:43 |
| mestery | ajo: Awesome! I'll proceed with getting it rolling then | 13:43 |
| ajo | mestery, I have some patches here half cooked ;D | 13:43 |
| mestery | lol | 13:44 |
| mestery | ajo: What about neutron-qos for the name? ;) | 13:44 |
| ajo | mestery sounds perfect :) | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose db_base_plugin_v2.py with changes https://review.openstack.org/189299 | 13:48 |
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| ihrachyshka | mestery, why even neutron- prefix | 13:54 |
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| mestery | ihrachyshka: That's a valid point, all existing feature branches have that prefix, so I guess it's for nostalgia | 13:54 |
| ajo | it's not really important :) | 13:55 |
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| mestery | lol | 13:56 |
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| mestery | ajo: Branch created thanks to ttx! openstack/neutron now has a feature/qos branch! | 13:59 |
| mestery | ajo: Have fun! Lets plan to sync it weekly from this point forward | 14:00 |
| ajo | mestery: perfect!!, thanks. Sync is done by merge + sending review, never done it over gerrit | 14:00 |
| ajo | ^ that was intended as a question... | 14:00 |
| mestery | ajo: Correct! | 14:01 |
| * mestery grabs some notes | 14:01 | |
| ajo | I can learn about it next week no hurries :D | 14:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gal Sagie proposed openstack/neutron: Add documentations for VXLAN/STT/Geneve Tunnels https://review.openstack.org/189270 | 14:01 |
| mestery | cool | 14:01 |
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| ajo | mestery, I talked with ihrachyshka about pioneering in the use of osloversioned objects in the scope of QoS, if that's doable | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Context: Remove logic for read_deleted and deprecate it https://review.openstack.org/178151 | 14:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Salvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Remove get_admin_roles and associated logic https://review.openstack.org/175238 | 14:03 |
| mestery | ajo: You're a pioneer for sure! And why not use those? It would be a good example for everyone else. | 14:03 |
| mestery | ajo: I have faith you and ihrachyshka can make that happen :) | 14:03 |
| ajo | even if we're not going to get the runtime upgrade benefits until all neutron is ported (if that's our direction) | 14:03 |
| ajo | we could get rpc serialization for free, etc.. | 14:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Follow up patch for OVS-agent:Separate ovs-ofctl using code as a driver https://review.openstack.org/188350 | 14:04 |
| ajo | still, I need to understand how VO is exactly used , "very little" docs :D | 14:04 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, I assume that's the direction, just not sure whether Liberty (there are concerns to solve) | 14:05 |
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| ajo | ihrachyshka, I guess that as long we don't block/break others by using it, it should be ok, I guess.. | 14:05 |
| mestery | ihrachyshka ajo: QoS may be a good place to experiment with this for sure | 14:05 |
| mestery | ajo: ++ | 14:05 |
| ajo | mixing for a bit should be OK if the future is going to be all VO's | 14:06 |
| ajo | mixing without mixins ;D | 14:06 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, oslo.vo is in global-reqs, no reason not to adopt it ;) | 14:06 |
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| ajo | :) | 14:08 |
| amotoki | agree. combining VO and RPC versioning would help us to achieve a similar level of compat with nova and cinder. I need to dive into the detail how it works. | 14:11 |
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| ihrachyshka | amotoki, there is a naked spec for its adoption btw: https://review.openstack.org/168955 | 14:14 |
| amotoki | can anyone in core team look at the neutronclient patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183811/ ? it fixes neutronclient gate failure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183811/ | 14:14 |
| amotoki | ihrachyshka: I just starred it in gerrit :-) | 14:15 |
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| moshele | ajo: hi | 14:22 |
| ajo | hi moshele :) | 14:22 |
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| moshele | ajo: I see the qos branch is ready | 14:22 |
| ajo | moshele, niice :) | 14:22 |
| ajo | I'm preparing a patch with the service to test, | 14:22 |
| ajo | extending with qos_profile_id on ports (hopefully, without mixins, ... but on it...) | 14:23 |
| moshele | ajo: I have POC patch with the agent mech driver, I did it on the port_security extension | 14:24 |
| ajo | moshele, feel free to send stuff for review, but mark WIP if it's wip/poc. | 14:25 |
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| moshele | ajo: ok sure | 14:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ann Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Some testing of ovs-agent flowless restart https://review.openstack.org/182920 | 14:39 |
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| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163783/ | 15:26 |
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| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: hello | 15:26 |
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| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, I think we had a user reporting the bug who relied on ipv6 but not managed by neutron | 15:26 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: so ipv6_ra_mode = None, ipv6_address_mode = slaac ? | 15:28 |
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| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: salv-orlando had a patch in Icehouse that disabled the ipv6_*_mode attrs from showing up in the API | 15:28 |
| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, there are no such flags in Icehouse, at least not exposed | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: Add Neutron Office Hours https://review.openstack.org/189338 | 15:28 |
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| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: Do we have a bug report from this user, that shows their configuration? | 15:31 |
| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, right, they are not shown. so you create an external network, assign an ipv6 subnet, then attach directly to it, but still rely on dnsmasq to distribute the address space. at least that's my understanding. | 15:31 |
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| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, nah, I think I talked to a guy with such a requirement in irc. let me try to search for logs | 15:32 |
| amuller | mestery: the commit message doesn't match the contents of that patch | 15:32 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: hi | 15:32 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: there was a bug in dnsmasq that screwed up IPv4 leases when you had a v6 network, even an external one, that would kill networking | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: hi | 15:32 |
| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2015-03-12.log | 15:32 |
| ihrachyshka | starting from "2015-03-12T12:07:46" | 15:32 |
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| mestery | amuller: how so? Is it due to leaving PTL out of the commit message? | 15:32 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: Thanks for Friday review, 2 patches reviewd and merged:) | 15:33 |
| amuller | mestery: the .rst you added is about neutron stadium not the office hours =D | 15:33 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1316190 | 15:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1316190 in neutron "When IPv6 addresses are added to the dnsmasq host file, dnsmasq stops issuing leases" [Low,Fix released] - Assigned to Sean M. Collins (scollins) | 15:33 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: so he | 15:33 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: is going to run into that bug next | 15:33 |
| mestery | amuller: I need to go back to git 101 this morning | 15:33 |
| mestery | amuller: Fixing | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Thanks for your patience with those reviews. | 15:33 |
| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, let me block the merge first, then I'm back to you | 15:33 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: also I break up main refactor review again, to make it feasible for review | 15:34 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: raorn is mistaken, dhcpv6-stateful is not supported in icehouse, or havana | 15:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: Add Neutron PTL Office Hours https://review.openstack.org/189338 | 15:34 |
| mestery | amuller: Fixed ^^^^ | 15:34 |
| mestery | amuller: Thanks for the quick heads up! I had a prior thing there and I did a "git add" with the wrong thing | 15:35 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: This one contains changes, not only code moving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189299/, but I tried to document all of them in commit message | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Fix typo in test class name https://review.openstack.org/189224 | 15:35 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: will rebase main refactor review on top of that soon | 15:35 |
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| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: I’ll have a look at 189299 next then. Thanks. | 15:36 |
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| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: Thanks! | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Keep them coming. | 15:36 |
| ihrachyshka | raorn, comments? ^^ | 15:37 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: sure | 15:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Update ipset members when corresponding sg member is empty https://review.openstack.org/187433 | 15:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rossella Sblendido proposed openstack/neutron: L2 agent RPC add new RPC calls https://review.openstack.org/147435 | 15:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce Arpinger for testing ARPs https://review.openstack.org/189349 | 15:50 |
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| amotoki | mestery: is there any reference on "neutron big tent"? I am not sure if there is any criteria on nominating a neutron-related project to openstack/*. I might miss something. | 15:56 |
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| mestery | amotoki: The only criteria has been if the PTL accepts it. :) | 15:57 |
| mestery | amotoki: Backends have been allowed in, and some cases, external API extensions which follow the 4 opens (e.g. l2 gateway) | 15:57 |
| amotoki | mestery: I see :-) | 15:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: QoS API Extension and service plugin. (WIP! WIP! WIP!) https://review.openstack.org/189352 | 15:58 |
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| amotoki | mestery: I am happy if incubated/trial projects in stackforge will be official. I just wonder what is "neutron big tent" in official. The concept itself is great! I am just asked :-) | 15:59 |
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| mestery | amotoki: I should add some notes around this I think :) | 16:00 |
| mestery | amotoki: What it means is, just like broader OpenStack, Neutron is moving to a "Big Tent" model. | 16:00 |
| mestery | Think of it as "Big Tent" at a smaller, project scale. | 16:00 |
| * HenryG thought neutron was a stadium | 16:00 | |
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| mestery | HenryG: lol | 16:01 |
| mestery | HenryG: Yes, to be fair, I did repurpose it as "Neutron Stadium" | 16:01 |
| mestery | Tent sounded too intimate for my liking | 16:01 |
| HenryG | Or sounds like a party or a circus? | 16:02 |
| amotoki | mestery: HenryG: "stadium", yeah. "big tent" yeah. there is no big differnece | 16:02 |
| mestery | amotoki: Exactly | 16:02 |
| amotoki | "Stadium" is a nice sound to me :-) | 16:02 |
| -amotoki- just a feeling | 16:04 | |
| amotoki | .... no neutron-ironic meeting this week? | 16:05 |
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| ZZelle | Hi everyone! | 16:16 |
| ZZelle | When is the neutron meeting this week? today or tomorrow? | 16:16 |
| ihrachyshka | should be today | 16:17 |
| HenryG | yes, today 2100 utc | 16:18 |
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| ZZelle | thanks | 16:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-neutronclient: Fix functional tests and tox 2.0 errors https://review.openstack.org/183811 | 16:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Delete FIP agent gateway port with external-net-delete https://review.openstack.org/159332 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Adolfo Duarte proposed openstack/neutron: L3 Agent support for routers with HA and DVR https://review.openstack.org/139686 | 17:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Add RPC command to delete FloatingIP Agent GW Port https://review.openstack.org/159317 | 17:21 |
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| wwriverrat | smcquaid, you want to pair to deploy the keystone waffle? | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adolfo Duarte proposed openstack/neutron: HA for DVR - Neutron Server side code changes https://review.openstack.org/143169 | 17:56 |
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| thorst | Hi all. I'm working on a ML2 agent for PowerVM out in stackforge. I talked with emagana about this at the summit, but I have additional questions about the requirement for a mechanism driver in core neutron. Can anyone help? | 18:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Swaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Delete Floatingip agent gateway port through rpc https://review.openstack.org/187769 | 18:08 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: ping re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188931/3/neutron/agent/linux/dhcp.py | 18:23 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: pong | 19:09 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: Looking at your response. | 19:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: I’m not sure why you prefer your new suggestion over popping from the front. | 19:11 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: also pop(0) is slow ;) | 19:11 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: not sure, mutating a list as you go along requires carrying mental state of its current condition | 19:12 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: i don't like things like that if i can avoid them | 19:12 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: but this case is small enough that its not a big deal | 19:12 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: We’re reading from the filesystem here. So, for it being slow. I don’t think it matters. | 19:12 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: yeah, i was just messing with you for that :) | 19:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | You’re probably right that it isn’t great to mutate the list as I go along. | 19:13 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: well maybe i'm just slow, but the fact that i didn't notice the conditional pop is sort of representative of how carefully you have to follow them | 19:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | But “(parts[3] if client_id else parts[2])” ? | 19:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: ^ This is the sort of thing I wanted to get away from. | 19:15 |
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| kevinbenton | so i prefer that because its more clear to me that the position is explicitly dependent on client_id | 19:16 |
| kevinbenton | so it's just a matter of style i suppose | 19:17 |
| carl_baldwin | What happens when someone starts putting another optional field in there somewhere and the position of following fields is dependent on more optional fields? | 19:19 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: ^ | 19:19 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: What if I replaced the poppping with some sort of cursor and add a comment to make it more obvious that the cursor moves or not depending on the existence of an optional field? | 19:20 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: that type of file format would be a nightmare :). it's already bad enough that we have to check if a string starts with something to determine what everything else is | 19:21 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: that might work | 19:21 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: We don’t exactly have control over the file format. I’ll see what I can do. | 19:22 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: is the format deterministic otherwise? what if we just checked the lenght of the split and could know based on that? | 19:23 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: then it could just be two split unpack statements | 19:23 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: a pointer is fine though | 19:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Romil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Follow up patch for OVS-agent:Separate ovs-ofctl using code as a driver https://review.openstack.org/188350 | 19:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: Add Neutron PTL Office Hours https://review.openstack.org/189338 | 19:59 |
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| ajo | mestery, I sent you a nit to ^ | 20:04 |
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| ajo | ahh | 20:04 |
| ajo | sorry, I linked the wrong one | 20:04 |
| mestery | ajo: lol :) | 20:04 |
| ajo | hmm | 20:04 |
| ajo | don't we have one there yet? :) | 20:04 |
| mestery | ajo: replied | 20:05 |
| mestery | ajo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189422/ | 20:05 |
| ajo | yep | 20:05 |
| mestery | ajo: 189338 is dependent on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189422/ | 20:05 |
| ajo | mestery, changed to +1 with the comment :D | 20:05 |
| mestery | unitl https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189422/ merges, I can't provide a specific link | 20:05 |
| mestery | cool | 20:05 |
| mestery | :) | 20:05 |
| ajo | may be we can infer the link from the project name :) | 20:06 |
| ajo | hackers! | 20:06 |
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| mestery | lol | 20:07 |
| ZZelle_ | dougwig, mestery, hi | 20:07 |
| mestery | ZZelle_: yo yo yo! | 20:07 |
| ajo | mestery, wasn't the meeting now? or is it in +1h? :) | 20:08 |
| ajo | +1h | 20:08 |
| ajo | :D | 20:08 |
| ajo | me, and the timezones... | 20:08 |
| ZZelle_ | mestery, the change https://review.openstack.org/175394 assumes tenant_id is always provided on fw create/update and breaks neutron-fwaas | 20:09 |
| ZZelle_ | => https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1463066 | 20:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1463066 in neutron "Unable to update policy for a firewall from python-neutronclient" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily) | 20:09 |
| ZZelle_ | mestery, should we correct neutron-fwaas? or rollback the change and implement it correctly? | 20:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add Dynamic Multipoint VPN to Neutron VPNaaS https://review.openstack.org/181563 | 20:14 |
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| mestery | ZZelle_: Looking | 20:16 |
| ZZelle_ | mestery, the change assumes tenant_id is always provided but it's disallowed to provide it on update and optional on create (so wtf) | 20:16 |
| mestery | ZZelle_: We should fix this correctly, maybe we revert the change for now. | 20:17 |
| ZZelle_ | mestery, ok | 20:17 |
| mestery | ZZelle_: Will you revert it? | 20:17 |
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| ZZelle_ | mestery, yes | 20:17 |
| mestery | ZZelle_: cool! | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Revert "Insert tenant_id validation for fw and fw-policy" https://review.openstack.org/189430 | 20:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Revert "Insert tenant_id validation for fw and fw-policy" https://review.openstack.org/189430 | 20:24 |
| ZZelle_ | mestery, ^ | 20:25 |
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| mestery | ZZelle_: One more rev to fix whitesapce :) | 20:25 |
| mestery | ZZelle_: Than I'll have dougwig and myself merge it. | 20:26 |
| ZZelle_ | mestery, argh | 20:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Revert "Insert tenant_id validation for fw and fw-policy" https://review.openstack.org/189430 | 20:28 |
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| ZZelle_ | dougwig, mestery, and i will fix revert change bug after revert merge | 20:29 |
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| mestery | ZZelle_: +2/+A | 20:30 |
| mestery | thanks! | 20:30 |
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| ZZelle_ | mestery, do you remember why tenant_id is required when creating fws, policies or rules? | 20:31 |
| mestery | ZZelle_: I can't quite recall, no. | 20:31 |
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| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: re: post-fork stuff (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189391/). A lot of the ugly parts of the patch deal ensuring that the callback (or after refactoring, callback event notification) is only called once in the case api_workers=rpc_workers=0 and there is only one process (but the forking happens separately with the service.start() methods being called). One option to make things very clean on the | 20:42 |
| otherwiseguy | core side is to just make subscribers to PLUGIN_FORK.AFTER_CREATE ensure that the action is only executed once. Thoughts? | 20:42 |
| otherwiseguy | wow, that was a rambling message. I barely understand reading it myself. :p | 20:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Clean only floating-ip related connection states https://review.openstack.org/180765 | 20:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron: Python3: Enable all working tests in tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/189319 | 20:59 |
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| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: in other words, does it seem fair to just make subscribers PLUGIN_FORK.AFTER_CREATE do something like http://ur1.ca/mrtig to avoid having to jump through lots of hoops in server/__init__.pyp, wsgi.py, and service.py to ensure that PLUGIN_FORK.AFTER_CREATE is only called once when rpc/api_workers both == 0? | 21:08 |
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| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: let me get back to you after the meeting | 21:09 |
| otherwiseguy | oh yeah, meeting! | 21:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/182746 | 21:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/188499 | 21:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Michali proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: And devref doc infrastructure https://review.openstack.org/188185 | 21:21 |
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| ZZelle_ | lifeless, hi | 21:32 |
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| lifeless | hi | 21:33 |
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| sc68cal | mestery: https://ask.openstack.org/en/answers/63689/revisions/ - "The devstack support for the linuxbridge agent is not 100%." - sigh | 21:46 |
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| mestery | sc68cal: yup, sigh | 21:47 |
| mestery | Yes! gmail is down for me! No more email! | 21:47 |
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| anteaya | sc68cal: I'm foggy why are we taking a metric off ask.o.o? | 21:47 |
| mestery | Damn, it just came back | 21:48 |
| anteaya | mestery: :( | 21:48 |
| sc68cal | anteaya: top hit on duck duck go for "linux bridge DevStack" | 21:48 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: oh okay | 21:48 |
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| anteaya | rarrrr | 21:48 |
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| sc68cal | well devstack's docs only have config for neutron and OVS..... because I wrote them and that was what I was using at the time | 21:48 |
| mestery | sc68cal: I use duckduckgo too! Sweet! :) | 21:48 |
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| sc68cal | so now I'll go back and do the same for linux bridge | 21:49 |
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| anteaya | small victories | 21:50 |
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| markmcclain | linuxbridge has been working for my tests lately | 21:51 |
| anteaya | yay | 21:51 |
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| anteaya | are you using devstack? | 21:51 |
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| markmcclain | for some tests yes | 21:53 |
| anteaya | yay | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: still there? | 21:53 |
| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: I am. | 21:53 |
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| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: so what happens with both are 0? | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: are you saying it gets called too many times? | 21:54 |
| sc68cal | markmcclain: got a local.conf to share? | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | sc68cal: yeah.. I'll find a saner one | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | too many Q_ vars for linuxbridge fun | 21:54 |
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| anteaya | markmcclain: you have multiple local.conf files? | 21:55 |
| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: correct. Since service.start() is manually called when *_workers < 1 (and that is the only place to easily add the event notify call), when both are 0 it gets called twice. | 21:55 |
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| sc68cal | markmcclain: I know that feel | 21:55 |
| sc68cal | markmcclain: I still have Q_ stuff set to true, even though it's now the defaults :) | 21:55 |
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| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: hence all of the ugly passing around the callback and doing checks in the original patch. Option to avoid that is to just make the subscriber ensure that it is only called once ala self.have_forked stuff. | 21:56 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: hmm. well would we want to even send the event at all if no fork actually occured? | 21:57 |
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| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: or is there still 1 fork when both workers ==0 | 21:57 |
| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: well, the use case is to do things that are safe only after forking (which are safe if there is no forking as well and still need to be done). | 21:58 |
| otherwiseguy | So a better name for the event would probably be good. | 21:58 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: well i was thinking it would be to clean things up after forks | 21:58 |
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| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: +1 | 21:58 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: we can call it 'fork_complete' or something | 21:59 |
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| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: to make matters even more confusing, I could also use an event that is essentially "PARENT_LOADED" that happens separately (for the case where you want something that only happens in the parent process (like syncing ovsdb to neutron db--no need to do it 8 times, etc.). | 22:00 |
| otherwiseguy | So there is "do this every time, but only after we're sure any forking that has happened is finished" and "do this *only* once, no matter how much forking is done". | 22:00 |
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| otherwiseguy | It is a pain in the posterior. | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: right | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: both nice valid use-cases | 22:02 |
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| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: i would prefer to make the single call guaruntee on our end' | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: kinda crappy for everyone to have to re-implement that same protection | 22:02 |
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| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: But the way things happen with the special case of workers both = 0 and there is just the parent process vs workers !=0 and the parent process may not be doing any RPC/API stuff...it makes my head hurt. | 22:04 |
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| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: yeah, there is some inherent ugliness no matter what. :/ | 22:04 |
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| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: so we could actually use two events | 22:05 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: one event triggers a callback that fires the public event only once for the plugins to use | 22:05 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: that way the de-dup logic is all self-contained there | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: and if for some reason someone wants a call on every fork event, they can subscribe to the former one instead of the latter | 22:07 |
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| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: As an example, a SERVER_LOADED event that fires once just before pool.waitall() (which would only execute in the parent process), a subscriber would be notified potentially before forks were completely loaded I think, because they are launched from greentrhreads. A PROCESS_FORKED notification could happen when an API or RPC worker actually forks--in the case of workers!=0, then the parent process | 22:17 |
| otherwiseguy | wouldn't actually send that notification since there was no fork. There's just a lot of overlapping concerns the way it is written. | 22:17 |
| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: I'll bang on it some more tonight and tomorrow and see if I can come up with something remotely sane. | 22:17 |
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| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: so PROCESS_FORKED gets called when workers == 0? | 22:19 |
| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: Maybe a PROCESS_READY event that fires everyplace fork or not, that passes in the parent PID and subscribers could check against os.getpid()... | 22:19 |
| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: I guess that's to be determined at this point. | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: yeah, PROCESS_READY would mean everything is ready to go post forking whether or not any forking has happened | 22:20 |
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| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: Right. And then if someone needed to do something only in the parent process, they could look at the pid passed with the event? | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: maybe, need to think about it a bit | 22:22 |
| otherwiseguy | Although that still leaves you not necessarily knowing as a subscriber whether or not the parent process has loaded RPC/API stuff as well...and I imagine some things would break if that wasn't there. | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: but doesn't PROCESS_READY mean it has? | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: or when were you thinking of firing it? | 22:23 |
| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: well, I imagine it would fire in the case of both workers=0 in main() right before pool.waitall(), and in the other cases when service.start() is called by ProcessLauncher stuff. | 22:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Revert "Insert tenant_id validation for fw and fw-policy" https://review.openstack.org/189430 | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: i don't think we have to offer guaruntees about RPC stuf being initialized. I think keeping this scoped to just if we've forked is good | 22:26 |
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| otherwiseguy | In the case where workers !=0, then the 'parent' process is just for monitoring the workers, right? | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: yeah, it doesn't actually do anything that i can see | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: at least when i was briefly testing for that thread | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: email thread* | 22:26 |
| otherwiseguy | Of corse, when one of the workers is 0 and the other isn't, then the parent does stuff. :p | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: :'( | 22:27 |
| otherwiseguy | There's just all kinds of crazy combinations. And it makes me sad. | 22:27 |
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| otherwiseguy | And I've apparently forgotten how to use the English language today, but I don't care. :p | 22:27 |
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| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: why don't we just have the neutron manager create a new plugin object if it detects that the pid has changed? | 22:28 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: is it ever really the case that we want the same plugin object shared between threads? | 22:28 |
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| kevinbenton | processes* | 22:29 |
| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: I don't see any benefit to relying on fork() copying things and hiding stuff from us. That sounds reasonable, assuming we don't do something silly and break the world. :) | 22:29 |
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| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: right, so if we go that way, plugins would have to find out a way to de-duplicate initialization tasks | 22:30 |
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| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: hmm. my brain is still a bit melty thinking about de-duplication and 'gee, what kind of service am I, as a plugin: rpc, api, both, neither?' | 22:41 |
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| otherwiseguy | and if I want to do something *once*, which process should I do it in. etc. | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: right | 22:44 |
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| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: i'll have to sleep on it :) | 22:45 |
| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: I was thinking the same thing. I need to turn my brain off for a bit. This has been making me a little nuts. ;) | 22:45 |
| otherwiseguy | It's been a bit of a rabbit hole. | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: if we can offer a DO_ONCE and DO_EACH_PROCESS, that would be nice for devs | 22:46 |
| otherwiseguy | I started out with "gee, I'll just add port state up notification for OVN" and ended up here. :) | 22:46 |
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| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: Yeah, I'd like "fire once" event notification in general. I added it to an event handler system in an OVN patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178826/7/networking_ovn/ovsdb/impl_idl_ovn.py) when I saw that neutron.callbacks stuff didn't look like it supported removing an event from a callback. | 22:49 |
| otherwiseguy | But that is the patch I'm rewriting due to this stuff as well. | 22:50 |
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| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: anyway, back to that sleeping on it stuff...I'm going to go eat dinner and stop thinking for a bit. :) | 22:51 |
| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: sounds good | 22:51 |
| otherwiseguy | kevinbenton: thanks for the help! have a good evening. | 22:52 |
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| kevinbenton | otherwiseguy: you too | 22:54 |
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