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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Read vif port information in bulk  https://review.openstack.org/18673401:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18849902:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: LBaaS v2: Fix listing pool members  https://review.openstack.org/18356302:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add a comment on _check_update_has_security_groups  https://review.openstack.org/18963503:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Break Pinger class to functions  https://review.openstack.org/18977403:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Add InvalidIpForSubnetClient exception  https://review.openstack.org/16206203:24
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Read vif port information in bulk  https://review.openstack.org/18673403:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-neutronclient: Add missing tenant_id to lbaas-v2 resources creation  https://review.openstack.org/18182203:31
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Use fanout RPC message to nofity the security group's change  https://review.openstack.org/18917103:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Defer segment lookup in NetworkContext object  https://review.openstack.org/18858404:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Switch from MySQL-python to PyMySQL  https://review.openstack.org/18438304:15
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Allow update_port_status to take network param  https://review.openstack.org/18858504:28
openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Allow update_port_status to take network param  https://review.openstack.org/18858504:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18990705:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: VPNaaS: Enable pylint duplicate-key check  https://review.openstack.org/18851705:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Switch from MySQL-python to PyMySQL  https://review.openstack.org/18438605:11
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openstackgerritFawad Khaliq proposed openstack/neutron: Added networking-plumgrid in plugin requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19002405:20
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Read vif port information in bulk  https://review.openstack.org/18673405:30
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openstackgerritQthCN proposed openstack/neutron: _validate_mac_address do not check if it's input is None  https://review.openstack.org/18128205:34
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openstackgerritAman Kumar proposed openstack/neutron: ovs agent resync may miss port remove event  https://review.openstack.org/16502305:43
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openstackgerritAman Kumar proposed openstack/neutron: ovs agent resync may miss port remove event  https://review.openstack.org/16502305:52
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Add RPC command to delete FloatingIP Agent GW Port  https://review.openstack.org/15931705:56
openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Delete Floatingip agent gateway port through rpc  https://review.openstack.org/18776905:57
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openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed openstack/neutron: Different approach to indicate failure on SystemExit  https://review.openstack.org/18341105:59
openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed openstack/neutron: Just use {0,1,2} rather sys.std*.fileno()  https://review.openstack.org/18341305:59
openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed openstack/neutron: Make Daemon pidfile arg optional  https://review.openstack.org/18341205:59
openstackgerritAngus Lees proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce privilege separation process  https://review.openstack.org/15563105:59
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dougwiggus: yeah, you're right. If they override the stream without reopening the fd, there's no reason to expect it to inherit.06:02
gusdougwig: worse, it won't be correctly inherited with the previous code.06:03
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gusthe entire/only point of the dup2 calls is to set up stdin/out/err for anything later (like subprocesses) that tries to use them.06:04
gusif they aren't dup'ed onto 0/1/2 then this piece of code hasn't done its job correctly.  Eg: if sys.std* is mocked to something exotic and we trust sys.std*.fileno() then we're duping onto some high fd, not affecting stdin/out/err for subprocesses, and nuking the exotic sys.std* fd to boot.06:05
dougwigI'll get it in the morning.  On my phone now.06:06
dougwigDude, I already agreed with you.  :)06:06
gus:)06:06
gus(Thanks for reviewing, I'm obviously in explain-the-change mode at present)06:06
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Delete Floatingip agent gateway port through rpc  https://review.openstack.org/18776906:22
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openstackgerritRomil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor tunnel_sync to handle race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/18968606:30
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openstackgerritQthCN proposed openstack/neutron: _validate_mac_address do not check if it's input is None  https://review.openstack.org/18128206:35
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mosheleirenab: hi06:55
irenabmoshele:hi06:56
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mosheleirenab: regrading you Qos comment, I rethink it why do we need agent side Extension Manager?06:58
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irenabmoshele: sorry, can we chat in 1 hour?07:01
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moshelemoshele: sure07:02
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "Defer segment lookup in NetworkContext object"  https://review.openstack.org/19004607:04
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Revert "Defer segment lookup in NetworkContext object"  https://review.openstack.org/19004607:04
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openstackgerritWei Hu proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Unify strongswan driver configuration  https://review.openstack.org/18961107:07
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mohankumarHI Team ! I m new to openstack . Happy to see you all :)07:17
mohankumar is it possiple to share  any simple/good code and corresponding UT files to get started  :)  or any opentack LInk ?07:17
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Use fanout RPC message to nofity the security group's change  https://review.openstack.org/18917107:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Merge tag '2015.1.0'  https://review.openstack.org/17928607:37
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evrardjpgood morning everyoe07:45
evrardjpeveryone*07:45
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openstackgerritKobi Samoray proposed openstack/neutron: VMWare NSXv: Add distributed URL locking to ini  https://review.openstack.org/18838208:04
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openstackgerritYuuichi Fujioka proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce an API test for specified floating ip address  https://review.openstack.org/18160608:19
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Read vif port information in bulk  https://review.openstack.org/18673408:43
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce functions using arping executable  https://review.openstack.org/18934908:46
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openstackgerritJaume Devesa proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Dynamically advertise routes via BGP  https://review.openstack.org/12540109:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Revert "Defer segment lookup in NetworkContext object"  https://review.openstack.org/19004609:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Python 3: use next() instead of iterator.next()  https://review.openstack.org/18970309:13
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor NetcatTester class  https://review.openstack.org/18883609:17
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Fix type name in 589f9237ca0e_cisco_n1kv_ml2_driver_tables  https://review.openstack.org/18959410:26
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: [WIP] Basic Address Scope neutron client changes  https://review.openstack.org/19010410:29
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openstackgerritfumihiko kakuma proposed openstack/neutron: This is sandbox for Ryu-CI. Do not review.  https://review.openstack.org/18294311:12
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openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Switch to os-testr to control testr  https://review.openstack.org/18962611:12
openstackgerritIhar Hrachyshka proposed openstack/neutron: Actually allow to pass TRACE_FAILONLY to ostestr  https://review.openstack.org/19012211:12
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openstackgerritFei Long Wang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add spec for port metering  https://review.openstack.org/19013311:42
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/neutron: cleanup openstack-common.conf and sync updated files  https://review.openstack.org/18911711:56
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/neutron: cleanup openstack-common.conf and sync updated files  https://review.openstack.org/18911711:56
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openstackgerritElena Ezhova proposed openstack/neutron: Handle port_other_config=None in port_bound  https://review.openstack.org/18344311:58
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: Fix Enum usage in 589f9237ca0e_cisco_n1kv_ml2_driver_tables  https://review.openstack.org/18959412:18
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sbelous_amuller: hello Assaf, can I ask you some questions about neutron functional tests?12:34
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amullersbelous_: Hello, in a meeting currently, can you email me about it?12:35
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sbelous_amuller: yes, sure, thanks12:35
openstackgerritVladislav Belogrudov proposed openstack/neutron: Correct cisco_csr_identifier_map.ipsec_site_conn_id length   it is a foreign key to ipsec_site_connections.id and should match its size (36)  https://review.openstack.org/19015412:37
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor _update_ips_for_port()  https://review.openstack.org/19016212:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Switch to os-testr to control testr  https://review.openstack.org/18962612:53
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ihrachyshkaHenryG, howdy. can we push https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176710/ and its depending patch?13:00
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openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python3: do not use 'unicode'  https://review.openstack.org/19017913:04
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ajoirenab: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-qos-jun-10-2015  working on the agenda for our now+40m meeting about QoS ;)13:22
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irenabajo: thanks13:24
jlibosvahi all, is there any document mentioning to run "neutron-db-manage --service <adv_service>" in Kilo when using any advanced service? I can't find any so I'm thinking whether we forgot to let users know13:24
HenryGihrachyshka: yes, I was waiting for jenkins to +113:25
HenryGihrachyshka: sent to the gate13:26
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ihrachyshkaHenryG, thanks a lot13:30
jlibosvadougwig: hi13:30
openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python3: do not use 'unicode'  https://review.openstack.org/19017913:31
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openstackgerritVladislav Belogrudov proposed openstack/neutron: Correct cisco_csr_identifier_map.ipsec_site_conn_id field length  https://review.openstack.org/19015413:33
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor update_port in db_base_plugin_v2  https://review.openstack.org/19019513:52
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sc68calmestery: do you by chance know how CI was done for feature branches like lbaas ?14:14
sc68caldougwig: ^ ?14:14
Sam-I-Amsup sc68cal14:14
mesterysc68cal: I *think* the system should just pull from the appropriate branch for the change it's testing. Is that what you're wondering?14:15
sc68calmestery: sort of - I guess the question is if we have to do any special prep in DevStack to load the service plugin for QoS, if we need a job definition in project-config14:15
sc68callike adding the qos service plugin to neutron's config file - service_plugins specifically14:16
mesterysc68cal: I think the best would be to utilize a devstack patch as a dependency so gerrit tests them in sequence? Not ideal I realize.14:16
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sc68calmestery: ok, I'll explore it a little further as patches develop14:18
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose db_base_plugin_v2.py with changes  https://review.openstack.org/18929914:22
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openstackgerritVladislav Belogrudov proposed openstack/neutron: Correct cisco_csr_identifier_map.ipsec_site_conn_id field length  https://review.openstack.org/19015414:26
mesterysc68cal: thanks!14:28
openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: Make Vlantransparent extension inherit from ExtensionDescriptor  https://review.openstack.org/19020514:30
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sc68calmestery: I see a couple API extensions in tree that just inherit from object - while I'm doing opinionated commits, I might also update those. Even though the docstring for ExtensionDescriptor says it's optional, it may be useful to do for consistency14:46
sc68calplus it helps with tools like https://valloric.github.io/YouCompleteMe/14:46
mesterysc68cal: ack on that14:46
mesterycool!14:46
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sc68calSam-I-Am: sorry, got sidetracked, how's it hanging?14:55
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure no "agent" functional tests are skipped in the gate  https://review.openstack.org/18732315:12
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vbelhi, everyone, I am porting neutron code to ndb (mysql cluster) code. ndb is very strict about sizes and other things. One place I try to fix is -  https://review.openstack.org/190205 . We need to fix juno scripts for those who did not run anything yet (either running havana or not running anything at all), but provide new migration script for all who already runs juno/kilo openstack. While adding new migration script is not too difficult t15:17
vbelo do how do we deal with juno scripts? The fix itself is fairly simple (changing field size) but kind of too late :) . There are two places where the table is defined - in frozen.py and in 24c7ea5160d7_cisco_csr_vpnaas.py . I believe  24c7ea5160d7_cisco_csr_vpnaas.py can be modified with fixed length but it is not clear what to do with model in frozen.py (which takes stuff from another repo).15:17
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure no "agent" functional tests are skipped in the gate  https://review.openstack.org/18732315:18
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure no "db" related functional/fullstack tests are skipped in the gate  https://review.openstack.org/18980415:18
openstackgerritRomil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor tunnel_sync to handle race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/18968615:19
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vbeli.e. the model has to be different for new and old installations15:19
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Validate tenant_id between firewall and firewall-policy  https://review.openstack.org/18994615:20
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openstackgerritThomas Morin proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron Extension for BGPVPN  https://review.openstack.org/17774015:24
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otherwiseguykevinbenton: added some thoughts on the mailing list about the forking mess. I could *still* probably use more sleeping on it. :p15:25
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openstackgerritNikolay Fedotov proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Scenario test for vpnaas: ipsec-site-connection  https://review.openstack.org/15974615:26
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pc_mvbel: I think the review you referenced is unrelated.15:27
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pc_mvbel: The field is defined in the neutron-vpnaas repo and is in neutron_vpnaas/services/vpn/service_drivers/cisco_csr_db.py. It would have to be changed there.15:29
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vbelpc_m: yes, thanks for notice, sorry :)  the related review is https://review.openstack.org/19015415:29
pc_mvbel: Also, I would think that there would need to be a migration script to change it from one size to the other. I have no idea how this would (or even could) be handled for an older release.15:30
dougwigsc68cal: no extra prep needed.  zuul will load the right stuff.15:30
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pc_mvbel: Maybe others here would know. HenryG ^^15:30
vbelpc_m: I see.15:30
vbelpc_m: If we don't fix it in juno scripts we cannot run installation in liberty as well because everything bootstraps from older release15:31
HenryGvbel: pc_m: I am writing up a response in the review15:31
pc_mHenryG: thanks15:31
vbelHengryG: thanks a million!15:32
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openstackgerritRomil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor tunnel_sync to handle race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/18968615:52
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openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python3: replace 'unicode' with 'six.text_type'  https://review.openstack.org/19017915:58
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wznoinskhi all16:07
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wznoinskcould I have a pair of core eyes, armax maybe, on a small change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159885/, I don't know whether the change need to be changed or is the review falling between the cracks16:08
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openstackgerritRomil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor tunnel_sync to handle race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/18968616:39
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openstackgerritLucas H. Xu proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add alternative login description in docs  https://review.openstack.org/19025316:45
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openstackgerritRomil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Remove useless pass from methods in type_tunnel.py  https://review.openstack.org/19025616:46
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Sukhdevihrachyshka: Ping17:02
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anteayadougwig: I need a rebase on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182748/please17:08
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openstackgerritDane LeBlanc proposed openstack/neutron: Stop sending gratuitous arp when ip version is 6  https://review.openstack.org/16079917:17
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ZZelle_amotoki, hi17:20
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openstackgerritRomil Gupta proposed openstack/neutron: Remove useless pass from methods in type_tunnel.py  https://review.openstack.org/19025617:20
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Sukhdevihrachyshka: are you around?17:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Actually allow to pass TRACE_FAILONLY to ostestr  https://review.openstack.org/19012217:34
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ihrachyshkaSukhdev, not for long17:45
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Sukhdevihrachyshka: real quick one17:47
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Sukhdevihrachyshka: I have bug that needs to be fixed in Juno - this is not a back port from master to juno17:47
Sukhdevihrachyshka: but, straight fix in juno17:47
ihrachyshkaSukhdev, because plugin being spinned out?17:47
Sukhdevihrachyshka: yes17:48
ihrachyshkaSukhdev, then you do the same cherry-picking, but not from neutron master but from your plugin master17:48
ihrachyshkaor if cherry-pick fails, just copy-paste, keep Change-Id, mention git hash being 'cherry-copied'17:48
Sukhdevihrachyshka: Actually, I was not thinking about cherry picking at all - as we changed the design in the new implementation - but, just push a patch directly against Juno17:49
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ihrachyshkaSukhdev, ok. well, I still expect it to reflect somehow what is done in your plugin repo. If not... well, we can go thru whole review anyway, just considering the patch as a new one, not a backport. but please describe why the patch is juno only, in details, in commit message.17:50
Sukhdevihrachyshka: In latest release we changed the design significantly - so, the code in master and Juno are significantly different - so, I am thinking pushing the patch directly to stable/juno17:50
Sukhdevihrachyshka: yes will do that17:50
ihrachyshkaSukhdev, ok, but if you still have a fix for that bug in your master, then at least leave Change-Id for easier tracking17:50
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Sukhdevihrachyshka: OK - got it, I will put enough information so that it can be tracked17:51
Sukhdevihrachyshka: as soon as we push the patch, will ping you.17:51
Sukhdevihrachyshka: thanks17:52
ihrachyshkajust add me to reviewers17:52
Sukhdevihrachyshka: will do17:52
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Introduce address scopes  https://review.openstack.org/18026717:54
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openstackgerritSaksham Varma proposed openstack/neutron: Moving out the cisco n1kv section to stackforge  https://review.openstack.org/19028418:04
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure no "agent" functional tests are skipped in the gate  https://review.openstack.org/18732318:06
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure no "db" related functional/fullstack tests are skipped in the gate  https://review.openstack.org/18980418:07
openstackgerritVictor Howard proposed openstack/neutron-specs: ML2/OVS QoS support with dscp markings  https://review.openstack.org/19028518:07
openstackgerritSaksham Varma proposed openstack/neutron: Moving out the cisco n1kv section to stackforge  https://review.openstack.org/17145118:07
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Fullstack testing devref follow up  https://review.openstack.org/18799018:10
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WormManso, I'm seeing an oddity with dvr, if I delete all the instances on a subnet, router-interface-delete a subnet, router-interface-add the subnet and create an instance, the namespace and router are never recreated on the compute node18:26
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openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python3: replace 'unicode' with 'six.text_type'  https://review.openstack.org/19017918:39
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: Remove get_namespace from API extensions  https://review.openstack.org/19021518:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Introduce functions using arping executable  https://review.openstack.org/18934918:55
anteayawho is networking bgpvpn? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188822/18:56
anteayathis is a rename patch that hasnt' been added to the infra meeting agenda wikipage18:56
anteayamestery: any idea ^^?18:57
mesteryanteaya: matrohon owns that I think18:57
anteayathat person doesn't seem to be online18:58
anteayait is in a rename stack but we don't have it in the infra list18:58
mesteryI think he's in Paris18:58
anteayapatches that cause questions get left behind until next time18:58
anteayawell hopefully tomorrow he reads backscroll18:59
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anteayarename patches have to be listed here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Upcoming_Project_Renames19:00
anteayafor reference19:00
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ajohi :)19:01
ajoarmax, if you have a moment take a look here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189628/3/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_v2.py  , and here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189628/3/neutron/services/qos/qos_plugin.py (L72)19:02
armaxajo: ack19:02
ajoit's a possible way to extend core objects without mixins, via callbacks19:02
ajoI hope it doesn't look too bad ;)19:02
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armaxanteaya: I’ll ping him when I see him online19:06
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anteayaarmax: thank you19:09
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Sukhdevkevinbenton: Ping19:15
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ZZelle_HenryG, hi19:38
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Fix FloatingIP Namespace creation in DVR for Late Binding  https://review.openstack.org/17750719:40
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openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python3: replace 'unicode' with 'six.text_type'  https://review.openstack.org/19017919:54
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HenryGZZelle_: hi20:05
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ZZelle_HenryG, it seems mysql db related tests are not always runned on the gate: http://logs.openstack.org/04/189804/5/check/check-neutron-dsvm-functional/23b187e/testr_results.html.gz20:07
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HenryGZZelle_: "not always run" or "always not run"?20:08
ZZelle_HenryG, good question20:08
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openstackgerritYanping Qu proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Add handle for protocol value "any" in CSR1kv driver  https://review.openstack.org/19033120:10
ZZelle_HenryG, the package MySQLdb is not installed on the 2 last checks which disables mysql related tests20:11
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HenryGZZelle_: should we add mysql-python to test-requirements?20:16
ZZelle_HenryG, i am trying to understand why we have the trouble only with mysql20:17
HenryGZZelle_: good point20:18
HenryGZZelle_: however, I see oslo.db project has MySQL-python in test-requirements.txt20:19
ZZelle_HenryG, yes and psycopg2, we have none of them20:20
HenryGZZelle_: and psycopg220:20
HenryGjinx20:20
HenryGMy suggestion is to add them to your patch20:20
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ZZelle_HenryG, i wonder if it's related to the new version oslo.db as mysql tests are skipped since today20:21
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openstackgerritLucas H. Xu proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add alternative login description in neutronclient docs  https://review.openstack.org/19025320:22
openstackgerritLucas H. Xu proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Add alternative login description in neutronclient docs  https://review.openstack.org/19025320:22
HenryGZZelle_: that's possible20:22
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openstackgerritvishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Fixes firewall going to error state on a update  https://review.openstack.org/19033620:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-specs: Enable spoofchk control for SR-IOV ports  https://review.openstack.org/18259320:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Handle SIGHUP: neutron-server (multiprocess) and metadata agent  https://review.openstack.org/16173220:25
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openstackgerritvishwanath jayaraman proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Fixes firewall going to error state on an update  https://review.openstack.org/19033620:28
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Correct indentation in neutron.api.v2.attributes  https://review.openstack.org/19033920:29
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Add psycopg2 and mysql-python to test-requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/19034220:41
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Correct indentation in neutron.api.v2.attributes  https://review.openstack.org/19033920:41
ZZelle_HenryG, ^^20:42
ZZelle_marun, hi20:42
marunZZelle_: hi20:42
ZZelle_marun, about fixtures/testtools useFixture20:43
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ZZelle_marun, , after discussion with robert, it seems to require more time to decide if/how to correct the bug we highlighted (Fixture cleanup not called if Fixture.setUp fails)20:44
openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: Remove get_namespace from API extensions  https://review.openstack.org/19021520:44
marunZZelle_: ok20:45
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ZZelle_marun, one way is to update all fixture classes to support such limitation, how mock testtools.useFixture and Fixture.useFixture until we know how fixtures/testtools will address it20:46
marunamuller: fyi ^20:47
ZZelle_marun, one way is to update all fixture classes to support such limitation. Other way mock testtools.useFixture and Fixture.useFixture until we know how fixtures/testtools will address it20:47
amullerI'm lurking don't worry :)20:47
marunZZelle_: yay monkeypatching ;)20:47
amullerI remember lifeless not liking that because it means that Neutron will behave differently than other projects20:48
amullerIf I understood him correctly20:48
marunhah20:48
marunI hope you misunderstood20:48
lifelessnope20:48
lifelessthat was it20:48
marunlifeless: I must be missing something20:49
marunlifeless: why wouldn't we want a temporary fix?20:49
marunlifeless: I'm in danger of being triggered by consistency for the sake of it20:49
ZZelle_amuller, lifeless, it's a transition option until we need how/if fixtures/testtools will address it20:49
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amullerZZelle_: Is there an alternative to monkey patching that is both comprehensive and future proof if more fixtures are added?20:50
ZZelle_s/need/know/20:50
lifelessmarun: because fixing the small number of fixtures to make setUp atomic (which is the current contract) is only slightly harder and better20:50
marunlifeless: why better?  isn't the intention to fix this problem in the library?20:50
amullerlifeless: But what about future fixtures that will be added? I won't want to rely on reviews to catch future issues20:50
marunlifeless: or is the suggestion that we're doing something wrong?20:50
lifelessit is something wrong at the moment yes20:51
lifelessthe fixtures that have been written don't meet the contract of a fixture20:51
lifelessnow, that contract is either a) hard to meet or b) buggy20:51
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lifelesswhich is what the bug is about20:51
marunlifeless: that sounds like what I was missing20:51
marunlifeless: what is the contract exactly?20:52
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marunlifeless: the 'atomic' thing is whizzing over my head20:52
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lifelessmarun: setUp() should either a) succeed or b) fail leaving no stuck state20:53
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack/neutron: Ensure no "db" related functional/fullstack tests are skipped in the gate  https://review.openstack.org/18980420:53
lifelessmarun: right now the fixtures in neutron do c) fail leaving state behind20:53
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marunlifeless: hmmmm20:53
marunlifeless: do they not call addCleanup as appropriate?20:54
marunlifeless: or is it something else?20:54
marunlifeless: is there an example you can point me to?20:54
lifelessnothing in the lifecycle of fixtures executes cleanups when setUp fails20:54
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lifelessso the internal API of Fixture is confusing/tricky to use correctly20:55
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ZZelle_marun, we assume it behaves as testtools cleanup (always called)20:56
marunlifeless: yuck20:56
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lifelessTestCase has a very clear lifecycle20:57
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lifelessrun() has to start and finish hermetically always20:57
marunlifeless: to me that implies that the correct approach is to add an idempotent 'setup-like' method that gets called outside of setup20:57
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marunlifeless: hmm20:57
lifelessmarun: well, thats one option. But then we have to use that everywhere, so useFixture has to use it, or we need a new useFixture, or we need to do type sniffing in useFixture20:57
marunlifeless: but it would be preferable for setup to not block addcleanup20:58
lifelessmarun: another option is to change the contract and say that users *should* call some method to trigger cleanups when setUp fails20:58
lifelessand document how and when that might fail20:58
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marunlifeless: why isn't there error handling around setUp that just makes it work?20:58
marunlifeless: i.e. any exception forces tearDown20:58
marunlifeless: I must be missing something20:59
lifelessmarun: from the outside we don't know if tearDown /can/ run20:59
lifelessmarun: e.g. some folk forget to upcall to setUp()20:59
lifelessso state tearDown needs doesn't exist20:59
marunlifeless: why isn't the contract that teardown can always run?20:59
marunlifeless: or at least teardown is attempted regardless, and errors are reported if it fails20:59
lifelessso these are good questions20:59
lifelessand why I haven't just 'fixed' it upstream immediately21:00
lifelessbut you can see why its not trivial to get right21:00
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marunlifeless: Kind of. teardown always running seems plain to me21:00
lifelesswe need to think about the ecosystem impact on unittest, other fixtures, resources, programmer error21:00
lifelessit might be the right answer21:01
marunlifeless: from __future__ import fixture_sanity ;)21:02
lifelessmarun: so - I want to do a good fix21:02
lifelessthats easy to work with on both the writes-fixtures side and consumes-fixtures21:02
lifelesswhich means meeting the context manager rules21:02
lifelessand testtools needs21:02
marunIs there a reason we can't do the right thing in neutron and ensure that teardown always runs?21:03
marunWe can even fail on errors on teardown indicating why it occurs21:03
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marunPending your work to fix things upstream21:03
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lifelessso I find the framing of that as 'right thing' as presuming the answer21:04
marunI think we are presuming an answer, at least for us21:04
lifelesswhich my very point is that we haven't converged on yet21:05
marunteardown should always run21:05
marunthat's the principle of least surprise21:05
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lifelessyou do know that teardown doesn't exist for fixtures at all, right ?21:05
marunit can be apparent from the exception handler as to why teardown is potentially failing due to state dependencies21:05
marunlifeless: apparently not21:06
marunlifeless: fixtures rely on addcleanup then?21:06
lifelessfixtures have a cleanUp method21:06
openstackgerritDane LeBlanc proposed openstack/neutron: Stop sending gratuitous arp when ip version is 6  https://review.openstack.org/16079921:07
lifelesswhich can only be run once the thing is set up21:07
lifelessthis is to prevent usage errors21:07
lifelessbut look21:07
lifelessI have to take my daughter to hospital today21:07
marunok21:07
lifelessI'm sorry that I'm causing backpressure on neutron21:07
lifelessmy suggestion - use try:except: in your risky fixtures21:07
lifelesswill work *today*21:08
lifelessis correct both now and in future21:08
lifelessand won't lead to surprises when folk move from Neutron to other projects and vice versa21:08
marunok21:08
maruntry:except in setup?21:08
lifelessdef setUp(self):21:08
lifeless    try:21:08
marunok21:08
lifelesserm21:08
marunI get it21:08
lifelesslet me etherpad this21:08
marunor, maybe not21:09
ZZelle_lifeless, marun, we can define a decorator to handle this21:09
marunI had a problem, I solved with a decorator, now I have 2 problems (apologies to re)21:09
lifelessZZelle_: you can't21:10
lifelesshttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fixtures21:10
lifelessyou have to have the super call first21:10
lifelessits one of the reasons why calling cleanUp unconditionally is problematic21:10
amullerI don't want to do that for every single fixture21:11
amullernot because that's hard work, we probably have under 10 that we'd need to do that for21:11
amullerbut because when a new contributor comes on board he won't know and I don't want reviewers to have to remember21:12
amullerI'd rather we override fixtures.setUp somehow21:12
lifelessI agree; there is a defect, it needs to be fixed21:12
lifelessso, I don't know how to scale out the analysis here21:13
lifelessall the code is open, but you have to be willing to walk through 3 projects to see existing infrastructure uses, not to mention all the folk actually writing fixtures21:13
lifelessI am not doing the analysis when I sit here discussing it :/21:13
marunlifeless: we should continue the discussion later21:14
lifelessif you wanted to do a spec approach, where you deep dive and look at the interactions, I could review that21:14
marunlifeless: I will say, it's software, we can change things in the future21:14
lifelessabsolutely21:14
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lifelessmy specific concern vis-a-vis neutron is : don't make the behaviour within neutron surprising to folk from other projects, and vice verca21:14
lifeless*please*21:14
marunlifeless: I don't think there's many people that move between projects, frankly21:14
marunlifeless: such that a short-term fix is going to cause much pain21:15
ZZelle_lifeless, i added the decorator in the etherpad21:15
marunlifeless: we have way worse problems with legacy crap like mox21:15
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lifelessZZelle_: yes, I've pointed out the bug in it21:15
marunlifeless: anything wrong with the last example?21:17
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lifelessmarun: offered a tweak to it21:18
lifelesshaving everyone remember a decorator is harder than having the infra remember it21:18
lifelessI'd be ok with that pattern in Neutron21:18
lifelessI think its a reasonable compromise. I can't guarantee you won't hit unexpected consequences21:18
marunwe could probably regex remove the 3 lines after super once a fix is in21:18
lifeless[precisely because I haven't done the full examination21:18
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lifelessmarun: you can make an intermediary class 'SafeFixture' with those three lines21:19
marunlifeless: nothing in life is risk-free :)21:19
marunlifeless: that probably makes more sense21:19
marunlifeless: easier still to s/SafeFixture/Fixture/21:19
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18274621:22
amullerlifeless: marun: I also prefer a SafeFixture(fixtures.Fixture) class instead of a decorator. I think a SafeFixture class is placing the minimum amount of cognitive load on our reviewers.21:22
amullerAs a reviewer you just have to make sure that the new fixture inherits from SafeFixture and that's it. Also contributors have a lower chance not to notice that, than forgetting to use the decorator.21:23
lifelessmarun: but that would confuse folk more.21:23
marunlifeless: what would confused folks?21:23
marunconfuse21:23
lifelesshaving 'Fixture' mean 'SafeFixture from the etherpad'21:24
maruner21:24
lifelesswe don't call our common test classes TestCase :)21:24
marunlifeless: I think we were talking about s/Fixture/SafeFixture/ for now21:24
marunlifeless: and when a fix comes down, we'll revert21:24
lifelessk21:25
marunmaybe s/fixtures.Fixture/neutron.testutils.SafeFixture/ makes it more clear?21:25
lifelessyes21:25
lifelessit does21:25
marunok, cool21:25
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marunlifeless: the goal is definitely to be explicit21:25
marunlifeless: ok, I think we have plan.  Thank you for your time, and please don't let us hold you up any longer.21:26
anteayaarmax: what is the irc nick of this patch author? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187859/21:27
anteayaarmax: looks like this patch needs a rebase21:27
ZZelle_marun, not sure to understand, SafeFixture implies to rename setUp?21:28
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marunZZelle_: good question21:28
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amullerwhy rename setUp? Can't we implement setUp by wrapping super.setUp in a try/except?21:29
marunZZelle_: yeah, probably.21:29
marunamuller: not sure how that helps subclasses21:29
lifelessamuller: no, see the etherpad (again)21:29
ZZelle_lifeless, we can deduce that super.setUp (more precisely Fixture.setUp) has been called?21:30
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marunamuller: there are ways around rename, but they involve metaprogramming (which is kinda evil >:>)21:30
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marundamnit the man needs to take his daughter to a hospital.  maybe we can continue later?21:31
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lifelesssorry, I have to go. We had a thing marun and I were both happy with, I think he can represent me for now21:31
marunlifeless: ttfn21:31
amullerlifeless: toodles!21:31
marunamuller, ZZelle_: A rename seems pretty mechanical to me, but I'm hearing that you don't agree?21:32
amullerI guess I'd have to see a patch21:32
ZZelle_marun, we need to rename fixture.setUp not all setUp :s21:33
marunZZelle_: you mean that's what you'd prefer?21:33
marunZZelle_: oh, you mean s/// will be hard because it needs to be selective?21:34
ZZelle_marun, yes21:34
marunZZelle_: it's true, but aren't all fixtures isolated in separate modules?21:34
ZZelle_marun, good question21:34
marunZZelle_: we could even enforce the idea of fixtures being in modules that are clearly identifiable (e.g. xxx_fixtures.py)21:34
marunZZelle_: and avoid mixing fixtures and test cases21:35
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ZZelle_marun, fixtures and test cases are "mustly" in distinct classes21:36
marunZZelle_: distinct modules?21:36
ZZelle_marun, oups, yes21:37
marunZZelle_: that's good21:38
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armaxanteaya: I’ll rebase21:48
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anteayaarmax: thank you21:54
anteayaarmax: any chance you can be available friday at 2200 utc?21:54
anteayafor last minute rebases if any are required?21:54
armaxI should be around21:55
anteayaarmax: thank you21:55
anteayaarmax: you _are_ awesome, I hope you know that21:55
armaxanteaya: dunno if I am, but thank you!21:55
anteayayou are21:55
anteaya:)21:55
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: Remove get_namespace from API extensions  https://review.openstack.org/19021522:14
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: Remove get_namespace from API extensions  https://review.openstack.org/19021522:17
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: ping22:38
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: pong22:38
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: reading through the address scopes stuff22:38
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: what's the point in attaching two address scopes to a router if they don't route?22:39
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: do they share the same external gateway?22:39
carl_baldwinBoth networks may want external access.  So, both could NAT to the same external network in the same router.22:41
carl_baldwinAlso, planning for the future, we can add mechanisms to NAT or route between scopes in certain situations.22:41
carl_baldwinThe former could be done with two routers but what if your quota is 1 router?22:42
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: does conntrack have enough information to route into the correct scope?22:43
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: i.e. it can have two connections from 10.0.0.2 to 1.1.1.1 in its table22:44
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: and those are from different scopes22:44
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: that is a good point.  I should keep conntrack zones in mind.22:44
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carl_baldwinAs far as I know routing and conntrack are independent.22:44
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: right, so i think there is an information loss that is going to be difficult to recover from22:45
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: i don't think a zone can help if they are sharing the same external address22:45
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: i'm fine with it staying in the spec, but if it turns out nat doesn't work. let's hold off on implementing that bit22:48
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: it might be difficult with a shared nat address.  I’ll look in to it.22:49
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: one other thing. did you have a chance to think about my main review comment?22:50
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: I skipped it.  Let me read it.22:50
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: :'(22:51
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carl_baldwinSorry.  I had read it and wanted to think about it but ended up forgetting.  Forgive me?22:51
carl_baldwinI have discussed implicit address scopes a bit with tidwellr .22:51
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: Let me see if I can find a reference to anything useful from that discussion.22:52
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: bottom line is that I don’t yet see a good way to retrofit address scope without subnet pools.  All those addresses will be in an implicit scope but what do you do about overlap?22:55
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: well right, overlap would change the implicit address scope22:55
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: i was thinking about it overnight a bit and i think maybe i'll propose a separate RFE to have a something we can call to determine if two IPs are connected22:56
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: without NAT22:56
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: it can make use of scopes if they are available22:56
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: if they aren't, it can look at the networks and router legs22:57
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: That might be interesting.  You should keep in mind that “connected” is a fluid concept.  It may be connected at one point but then not connected later.22:57
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: Also, same address scope doesn’t imply connected necessarily.22:58
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: right, it will just provide shortcuts22:58
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: address scopes !=22:58
kevinbentonreturn False22:58
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: ok22:59
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: this would solve the issue with the security groups bug as well23:01
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flwang1armax: ping23:02
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: but it would need a callback mechanism to notify when router interfaces are removed/added that change the connectivity23:02
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: back on the conntrack thing.  I was already looking at using the raw table PREROUTING chain for keeping track of connections through the shared NAT address.  I think a TC —zone target could be applied there too to disambiguate.  It will take some testing and I’m almost to the point where I can start that testing.23:03
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: i'm really not a fan of having an API that has an implication and then just publishing guidelines that say they are broken because of our implementation details23:03
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: AH23:03
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: that sounds promising23:03
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: so the conntrack entry is added in PREROUTING before it loses track of the source23:04
flwang1armax: i'm reviewing your comments on the port metering spec, so did you mean as for this feature, we don't need a spec for that? but a RFE bug?23:04
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: So, what happens if connectivity changes?  Should all of the SGs be reapplied at the ports?23:04
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: yes23:04
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: Right, and the incoming interface is known at that point.23:04
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armaxflwang1: yes23:04
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: then have a different zone for each scope?23:05
armaxflwang1: that was the first step for new feature requests23:05
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: Right.23:05
flwang1armax: cool, so i just need to open a RFE bug and start to submit code for review in parallel?23:05
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: sounds promising23:05
armaxflwang1: I am just making you aware of the process as you didn’t seem to be23:06
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armaxflwang1: now that you filed the spec thre’s little point to go back to filing a bug report, but that’s my 2c23:06
armaxwhat you may want to do is to use the new spec template23:06
armaxflwang1: which sounds you didn’t do23:06
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: I hope so.  My concern is with return packets.  We can’t know the zone without first associating the packet to a connection.  It has the information to do the association (source ip, port) but will it look across zones?23:07
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: i'm not sure when zone association happens23:07
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flwang1armax: ah, ok, i will submit a new patch set to follow the new template. btw, does the idea make sense for you?23:07
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: if it's before 5-tuple matching then we are in trouble23:07
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: Neither am I, I’ll have to run some experiments.23:07
flwang1i mean the port metering23:07
armaxflwang1: yes it does23:09
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: it sucks that the special-casing in the l3 code is going to have to balloon more23:09
armaxflwang1: thanks for looking into this23:09
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: lots of "if subnet has address scope: do x else: do y"23:09
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flwang1armax: btw, except the ovs agent, any other important agent should be support at the first stage?23:10
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: I know.  I’m not sure what the better way is.23:11
armaxflwang1: linuxbridge?23:11
flwang1good point, i think these two maybe the most common agents23:12
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: https://lwn.net/Articles/370152/ <— See paragraph that begins with “This is mainly useful …”23:16
carl_baldwinThe veth devices and SNAT part sounds a little hairy.23:17
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: oh, so double-nat23:22
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: we would have a middle address for each scope to nat to23:23
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: … with veth between.23:23
carl_baldwinThat isn’t what I had hoped for.23:23
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: yeah, i take the the veth is just a way to retrigger processing?23:23
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: like a 'resubmit' action made out of ducktape and staples?23:24
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: I bet it is required to run it through the main conntrack zone to properly handle return packets.23:24
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: oh right. there needs to be a real IP listening23:25
openstackgerritSridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add Dynamic Multipoint VPN to Neutron VPNaaS  https://review.openstack.org/18156323:31
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: I knew the shared NAT address would be hard.  Looks like it just got a little harder.23:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: policy: cleanup deprecation code to handle old extension:xxx rules  https://review.openstack.org/17671023:41
carl_baldwinttyl, gotta run.23:41
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18274623:45
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-fwaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19040623:45
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19040823:46
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Document existence of br-tun and br-int in the OVS agent  https://review.openstack.org/19041823:58
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