Wednesday, 2015-06-17

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openstackgerritAaron Rosen proposed openstack/neutron: ovsdb: session.rpc never initialized  https://review.openstack.org/19246700:32
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18274600:37
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Destroy ipset set when corresponding sg member is empty  https://review.openstack.org/19099101:06
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Use fanout RPC message to nofity the security group's change  https://review.openstack.org/18917101:08
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openstackgerritHenry Gessau proposed openstack/neutron: Adds base in-tree functional testing of the ovs_neutron_agent  https://review.openstack.org/14004201:11
openstackgerritLynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Use 1st SNAT DVR host name for FIP assoc w/unbound  https://review.openstack.org/17943901:11
openstackgerritLynn Li proposed openstack/neutron: Add predefined DVR device owner for FIP w/unbound  https://review.openstack.org/18159901:11
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix 'router_gateway' port status can't be updated  https://review.openstack.org/15150101:23
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openstackgerritHirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Metaplugin removal  https://review.openstack.org/19205601:31
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openstackgerritHirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron: Metaplugin removal  https://review.openstack.org/19205601:34
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fixed the help CLI info of lbaas-pool-update  https://review.openstack.org/19096802:43
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: Fix 'router_gateway' port status can't be updated  https://review.openstack.org/15150102:44
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openstackgerritZhaoBo proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: Fixed the help CLI info of lbaas-pool-update  https://review.openstack.org/19096803:01
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openstackgerritshihanzhang proposed openstack/neutron: support distributed dhcp agent  https://review.openstack.org/18442304:02
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose DVR CSNAT L3 Agent from Compute Node L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/18536805:05
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose DVR CSNAT L3 Agent from Compute Node L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/18536805:10
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vCloudernBeerpinging rossella_s05:26
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ams_hi, i install openstack in 3 nodes, when i create a instance i can not ping vm from controller and compute node.  anyone know where is problem maybe exist?06:18
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openstackgerritAman Kumar proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor rpc_loop() in ovs neutron agent  https://review.openstack.org/19252806:23
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hichiharaamotoki: Could you review an AZ spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169612/06:25
amotokihichihara: It is in my queue. many specs....06:26
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hichiharaamotoki: Thanks! Everybody needs your help : )06:27
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Neutron API for Service Chaining  https://review.openstack.org/17794606:37
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palHow can I install liberty version of neutron service manually? As I dont have documentation.06:42
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Network RBAC DB setup and legacy migration  https://review.openstack.org/19170706:44
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kevinbentonsalv-orl_: good morning!06:54
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salv-orl_goodmorning kevinbenton07:05
salv-orl_It took me a bit more than 6 hours to be backonline... sorry.07:06
kevinbentonsalv-orl_: i think i've asked you this before, but can one attribute validation method know what another attribute is set to?07:06
salv-orl_kevinbenton: it should but our validation framework cannot do that at the moment07:06
kevinbentonsalv-orl_: that's okay. i've just been busy suffering from my terrible rbac design document07:06
salv-orl_because we don't pass the whole data structure to the validator.07:06
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kevinbentonsalv-orl_: ok07:07
kevinbentonsalv-orl_: just wanted to make sure there wasn't some other secret thing to use07:07
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salv-orl_kevinbenton: no it indeed annoys me that we do all this kind of checks in the mixins07:08
salv-orl_and therefore plugin can ovverride them07:08
kevinbentonsalv-orl_: that brings up another question07:09
kevinbentonsalv-orl_: these rbac entries can exist basically completely outside of the core plugin07:09
kevinbentonsalv-orl_: do you think i should do it as a service plugin?07:10
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kevinbentonsalv-orl_: or just follow the standard mixin pattern?07:11
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salv-orl_kevinbenton: if that's completely orthogonal go for the service plugin07:34
salv-orl_or even no plugin... some sort of component that gets initialized at startup07:34
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salv-orl_pretty much like the policy and quota engines07:34
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kevinbentonsalv-orl_: ok07:41
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openstackgerritRoman Bogorodskiy proposed openstack/neutron: sriov: implement spoofchecking configuration  https://review.openstack.org/19206508:04
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose DVR CSNAT L3 Agent from Compute Node L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/18536808:28
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anilvenkataihrachyshka: SridharG1 Hi Ihar and Sridahr08:50
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* pavel_bondar is looking for second core reviewer for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190668/ (have one +2 already)09:01
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: Network RBAC DB setup and legacy migration  https://review.openstack.org/19170709:09
openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/neutron: WIP: Implement RBAC API  https://review.openstack.org/19255509:09
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openstackgerritAman Kumar proposed openstack/neutron: ovs agent resync may miss port remove event  https://review.openstack.org/16502309:14
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ajoihrachyshka, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190595/ , I think I will check the local_ip verification to haleyb's and venkata's patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154043/09:22
ajoand also, romil is missing a race condition I'm preventing with my code, and that's why I added the new method: delete_endpoint_by_host_or_ip(self, host, ip):09:23
ajosee my last comment09:23
ajoI will update with a patch removing the prepended patch09:24
ajobut keeping that09:24
ajoihrachyshka: the explanation of the race condition I'm preventing is on the last comment of 19059509:24
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openstackgerritHirofumi Ichihara proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Add availability_zone support  https://review.openstack.org/16961209:26
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ihrachyshkaajo, if it requires a comment to understand the scenario, consider updating a commit message09:28
ajoihrachyshka, that makes sense, thanks for the suggestion09:28
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garykanyone have issue with devstack and the subnet create hanging?09:37
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openstackgerritAman Kumar proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor rpc_loop() in ovs neutron agent  https://review.openstack.org/19252809:43
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openstackgerritAman Kumar proposed openstack/neutron: ovs agent resync may miss port remove event  https://review.openstack.org/16502309:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Refactor _update_subnet_allocation_pools  https://review.openstack.org/19066810:04
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openstackgerritThomas Morin proposed openstack/neutron: fix rootwrap debug filter for ping all  https://review.openstack.org/19257810:15
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openstackgerritVladislav Belogrudov proposed openstack/neutron: Fix cisco_csr_identifier_map.ipsec_site_conn_id  https://review.openstack.org/19015411:09
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openstackgerritvikram.choudhary proposed openstack/python-neutronclient: [WIP] BGP Dynamic Routing neutronclient changes  https://review.openstack.org/11131811:18
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openstackgerritVladislav Belogrudov proposed openstack/neutron: Correct cisco_ml2_apic_contracts.router_id length  https://review.openstack.org/19261511:25
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: Add policy files specific to NSX plugins  https://review.openstack.org/19261911:38
openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Convert rebuilding ranges to instance method  https://review.openstack.org/19262011:39
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Move get_inteface_by_ip from LinuxBridge class to ip_lib  https://review.openstack.org/19216411:44
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Move get_inteface_by_ip from LinuxBridge class to ip_lib  https://review.openstack.org/19216411:47
openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Move get_inteface_by_ip from LinuxBridge class to ip_lib  https://review.openstack.org/19216411:48
ajopff, sorry for the super noisy updates11:48
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Move get_inteface_by_ip from LinuxBridge class to ip_lib  https://review.openstack.org/19216411:49
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ajoihrachyshka: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192164/11:49
ajoI hope it will look better11:49
ajoI switched those evil unit tests which were working by... luck..11:50
ajointo functional ones11:50
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose DVR CSNAT L3 Agent from Compute Node L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/18536811:54
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Use sets to calculate added/original/removed ips  https://review.openstack.org/19062312:06
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yaliehi amotoki?12:08
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Use sets to calculate added/original/removed ips  https://review.openstack.org/19062312:17
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Fix hostname roaming for ml2 tunnel endpoints in HA.  https://review.openstack.org/19059512:24
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Fix hostname roaming for ml2 tunnel endpoints in HA.  https://review.openstack.org/19059512:25
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Move get_inteface_by_ip from LinuxBridge class to ip_lib  https://review.openstack.org/19216412:30
openstackgerrityalei wang proposed openstack/neutron-specs: ML2: convert security-group and address-pairs into extension driver  https://review.openstack.org/16922312:35
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron: Move get_inteface_by_ip from LinuxBridge class to ip_lib  https://review.openstack.org/19216412:39
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pc_makamyshnikova: hi12:41
akamyshnikovapc_m, hi12:42
pc_makamyshnikova: On https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190154/6, can you elaborate on the change there?12:42
ihrachyshkaajo, hey. re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190595/6/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/type_tunnel.py I probably miss smth, but how can you get duplicateEntry from inserting an entry with the same hostname?..12:43
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ihrachyshkaajo, it's not constrained as per models (?)12:43
pc_makamyshnikova: Specifically, the change was in a cisco_csr_vpnaas.py migration file in the previous patch and now in cisco_init_ops.py12:43
pc_makamyshnikova: Is the former file removed and hence the latter file is needed now?12:44
ajoihrachyshka, hmm, I promise it did, and then, the old lookup by IP didn't return any entry... so it failed12:44
* pc_m trying to understand all the database migration stuff12:44
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ajoihrachyshka, may be I understood something wrong from my debugging session12:44
ihrachyshkaajo, well, I trust you, I just want to understand how it's possible :)12:44
ajoihrachyshka, but I debugged it manually because it was a bit too wierd12:44
ajoihrachyshka, sure, there's human-factor error, I could have missunderstood something12:45
ajoihrachyshka, it exploded in :12:45
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ajo(session.query(self.endpoint_model).            LOG.warning(_LW("Endpoint with ip %(ip)s or host %(host)s already "25512:45
ajo235                        filter_by(ip_address=ip).one())12:46
ajosorry12:46
ajomixed12:46
akamyshnikovapc_m, uno_initial that was merged yesterday removes the cisco_csr_vpnaas.py migration, so now this change is going to cisco_init_ops.py where this table is created.12:46
ajoin the filter_by(ip_address=ip).one()12:46
ajobecause there was no entry in the DB with such ip12:46
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akamyshnikovapc_m, *juno_initial12:46
ajoihrachyshka, and the exception said the duplicate was on host12:46
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pc_makamyshnikova: Ah, ok, that's the piece I missed.12:46
pc_makamyshnikova: Thanks!12:46
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ajoihrachyshka, ok, I'm remembering the details, and I think they are accurate, now... why?..12:46
ajo:?12:46
akamyshnikovapc_m, np12:47
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vCloudernBeerpinging rossella_s12:53
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rossella_svCloudernBeer: pong12:58
vCloudernBeerwhat is the best way to back out the last commit and start over? Do I want to keep the same change-id?12:59
vCloudernBeergit rebase?12:59
rossella_svCloudernBeer : you can cherry-pick your patch, apply your changes and then do git commit --amend13:01
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rossella_svCloudernBeer if you want to start all over, you can just create a new commit and then manually copy/paste the change-id before running git review13:02
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vCloudernBeerGot it thanks13:02
rossella_svCloudernBeer np13:02
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vCloudernBeerrossella_s: so I can git clone another neutron tree, make the change and then git cherry-pick?13:08
rossella_svCloudernBeer: you have 2 option. 1) git clone 2) cherry-pick your patch 3) apply the changes 4) git commit --amend13:10
rossella_sthe other option is (makes sense only if you have to change completely your patch) to git clone, make changes, git commit and copy/paste the commit-id13:11
mesteryihrachyshka ajo: Regarding this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180867/, I'm not following why we decided to punt this out of neutron13:12
mesterycan you guys give me the tl;dr on this? To me, it seems like fixing this in the agent as ianw has done is appropriate13:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-specs: Service group spec re-proposed from kilo-backlog to liberty  https://review.openstack.org/18576513:13
vCloudernBeerIt does make sense to git clone another tree since the new change is completely different and I have to discard patch set #213:13
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HenryGrossella_s: amuller: ping regarding https://review.openstack.org/14004213:14
amullerHenryG: sorry in a meeting13:14
HenryGrossella_s: amuller: The latest jenkins functional check passed, and I tried three times locally - all passed.13:15
amullerHenryG: let's rerun at the gate 5 times13:15
amullerHenryG: it passed for me locally as well13:15
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ihrachyshkamestery, I mildly agree with Ian. It's just that other people felt it somehow breaks separation between platform configuration management and neutron (Maru, Kevin was on top of it with the argument, afaik)13:15
rossella_samuller, HenryG thanks for taking care of the test!13:16
mesteryihrachyshka: I think it's hogwash and we should move forward with the patch, so I'm with you on this.13:16
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ihrachyshkathat said, we already tweak platform a bit in other places, including sysctl calls, so it's moot13:16
mesteryihrachyshka: I'll reopen the discussion on that patch13:16
ihrachyshkamestery, thanks!13:16
mesteryihrachyshka: Exactly!13:16
mesteryihrachyshka: I see no reason we can't merge and make people's lives easier13:16
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mesterythanks to ianw for pointing this out and for you ihrachyshka in reviewing it :)13:16
mesteryihrachyshka: Please re-review that one now if you have a moment :)(13:17
mesteryihrachyshka: We can merge even with marun's -1 on there :)13:18
amullermestery++13:18
mesteryamuller: Please, also review13:18
mesterylets fix this once and for all13:18
mesteryit's stupid we've punted this to installers13:18
amullerI agree, if it's something we know we need, there's no reason to let *all* installers do it for us13:18
mesteryamuller: ++13:18
ihrachyshkaok, let's make some hard feelings spring :)13:18
mesteryamuller: Feel free to merge that one13:18
mesteryihrachyshka: you could merge it too, either way13:19
mesteryamuller ihrachyshka: If we merge that one, we don't need this one I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187873/13:20
ihrachyshkamestery, yes13:20
mesterycool13:20
openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Add request factory for pluggable IPAM  https://review.openstack.org/19266313:21
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vCloudernBeerrossella_s: I will have to do some research on this and send you an Email to detail my steps13:24
ajomestery, I actually agree with ianw too, as it's an idempotent system parameter, we're not going to do any harm by setting it, and only good13:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Refactor scan_ports() and update_ancillary_ports() in OVS Neutron Agent  https://review.openstack.org/19217913:29
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mesteryajo: ++13:36
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openstackgerritChristian Wolter proposed openstack/neutron: Add documentation of LeastRoutersScheduler option  https://review.openstack.org/19221713:38
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hichiharamestery: Could you review metaplugin removal patch? Although amotoki gave +1 to the patch, we wait your review.13:48
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mesteryhichihara: Yes! Link please?13:48
hichiharamestery: sorry. metaplugin removal patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192056/13:49
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mesteryhichihara: Do you know of any users of metaplugin? Usually we would deprecate in Liberty and remove in Mxxx.13:49
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hichiharamestery: No, I don't know. I'm sure that nobody use metaplugin.13:50
hichiharamestery: I'd like to remove in Liberty.13:50
mesteryhichihara: If you're ok with removing it then I'll merge that patch. If we do find users I will point them at you, we shoudl include your contact info on the release notes for this perhaps :)13:50
amotoki_mestery: hichihara: is it announced in the general and operators list?13:51
mesteryamotoki_: That's a good question, it was on openstack-dev13:51
mesteryhichihara: Can you first send email to operators list?13:51
amotoki_the dev list is not an appropriate place to discuss such thing.13:52
hichiharamestery amotoki_: That's OK! I will send soon.13:52
mesteryhichihara: I've put a temporary -2 on there until we announce it13:52
mesteryhichihara: Once we do that and let it settle for a week with no responses, I will remove the -2 and merge it.13:52
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mesteryamotoki_: Agreed13:52
mesteryamotoki_: Does the plan sound ok?13:52
amotoki_mestery: sounds good.13:52
hichiharamestery amotoki_: Thanks!13:53
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose DVR CSNAT L3 Agent from Compute Node L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/18536814:12
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amullergsagie: are the unit tests passing locally for that patch?14:20
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose DVR CSNAT L3 Agent from Compute Node L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/18536814:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Ensure netfilter is enabled for bridges  https://review.openstack.org/18086714:37
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sc68calanilvenkata: please do not just assign yourself bugs that are unassigned14:43
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sc68calanilvenkata: that is antisocial behavior14:43
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sc68calanilvenkata: at least contact the reporter- if they happen to be a neutron developer14:44
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amullersc68cal: I disagree. Do you expect new contributors to know if the reporter is a developer or not? Why? If you report a bug and you have someone in mind that should be the assignee, you should as assign that person as you report the bug.14:47
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openstackgerritKyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: DHCP: Add default DNS servers to Neutron DHCP agent  https://review.openstack.org/19271214:47
anteayathe bug in question is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/146583714:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1465837 in neutron "Linux bridge: Dnsmasq is being passed None as an interface" [Medium,New]14:48
anteayawhich actually needs to be addressed14:48
anteayaso let's ask this question14:49
anilvenkatasc68cal: sorry for that, but you have enough time to assign bug to yourself before it is published to everyone14:49
anteayaanilvenkata: how much progress have you made on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/146583714:49
jaypipesamuller: not really :) most of the time, the standard procedure is to leave the bug unassigned until someone submits a patch and we automatically assign the bug to the patch submitter.14:49
amullerjaypipes: That is not my personal experience and that standard procedure doesn't make any sense14:49
amullerAs I said if you want someone the assignee, please assign the bug14:50
gsagiejaypipes : so two people can work on the same bug solution and only find out when its submitted?14:50
amullergsagie++14:50
jaypipesamuller: it does indeed make sense. it prevents bugs from being marked assigned to someone who isn't going to get to that work.14:50
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anteayaanilvenkata: how is your progress on the linuxbridge work?14:50
amullerjaypipes: Eh? I expect the reporter to talk to the person as he's assigning the bug14:51
anteayahe or she14:51
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jaypipesamuller: you are assuming the reporter knows who to assign it to.14:51
amullerjaypipes: That's the scenario we're talking about, yes.14:51
amullerOtherwise you leave the assignee empty, but that's not what we're talking about14:51
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amullerI think there might be a miscommunication here14:53
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openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed openstack/neutron: Python 3: do not use cmp(), nor sorted(..., cmp=...)  https://review.openstack.org/19271814:54
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amullerI'll rephrase: If you report a bug and you don't want to work on it yourself, and you have no idea who to assign it you, you obviously don't assign the bug, in which case if a random person picks up the bug, awesome, that's probably want you wanted. If you intend to work on it yourself or if you know someone that can work on it and has the time, you talked to that person and you assign it to him/her before a patch is sent. Otherwise14:55
amulleryou'll have an unassigned bug hanging and those often get picked up by random and often new contributors, which is awesome.14:55
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amullersc68cal: jaypipes: ^14:55
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sc68calamuller: I don't think  https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1465837 is a "low hanging fruit"14:56
openstackLaunchpad bug 1465837 in neutron "Linux bridge: Dnsmasq is being passed None as an interface" [Medium,New]14:56
amullersc68cal: I didn't say anything about any kinds of fruits :)14:57
anteayaand I note anilvenkata has been unable to reply with current progress on the bug14:57
anteayaeven if the status is, I haven't started yet14:57
anilvenkataanteaya: I see this bug unassigned for 9 hours, its on dnsmasq and I am working on a similar bug on dnsmasq IPV6, I wanted to work on it14:58
jaypipesamuller: ok, that's fine. :) I understand you.14:58
anteayaanilvenkata: that's great14:58
anilvenkataanteaya: it is just 9 hours back I assigned it14:58
anteayaanilvenkata: what is your status on the bug?14:58
anteayaanilvenkata: wonderful14:58
anteayaanilvenkata: when do you expect you will get a chance to work on it?14:58
anilvenkataanteaya: In 9 hours you can't expect me to fix a bug and give a status :)14:59
anteayaI can ask for a status at any time14:59
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anteayajust report what the status is14:59
anteayawhen do you expect you will get a chance to work on it?15:00
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gsagieantenna it sounds like you are a harsh boss :)15:01
anteayagsagie: anteaya and I am15:01
anteayaask around15:01
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gsagiesorry its my auto fix15:01
anteayaI don't think it is unreasonable to ask for a status on a bug15:01
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anteayaso that other's can plan their work accordingly15:02
anteayaso far I don't have a lot of confidence15:02
anteayaand will plan accordingly15:02
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anilvenkataanteaya: the status is it is in assigned state and i intend to look at tomorrow.15:03
openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Integrate DNS resolution with an external DNS service  https://review.openstack.org/8862415:03
anteayaanilvenkata: wonderful, thank you, I look forward to an update on your status tomorrow15:04
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anilvenkataanteaya: that goes without saying if i make progress15:05
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anteayaanilvenkata: I would like to hear regardless if you make progress or not please15:06
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anteayathis is a bug that needs to be fixed for linuxbridge to work in devstack15:06
anteayawhich is a priority15:07
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anilvenkataanteaya: sc68cal ideally anybody would expect to mark such bugs to be critical...why did it get missed out.15:08
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sc68calI am not able to mark bug priority15:08
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amullermestery: is linux bridge parity testing 'critical' for us this cycle?15:09
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mesteryamuller: indeed15:09
amullerok, let's bump the priority then15:09
amullerdone15:10
anilvenkatasc68cal: i didnt see critical mentioned in your bug report... guys be fair..if you want progress you have to do your homework...and dont call me antisocial :)15:10
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amullersc68cal: I'll create a new tag so we can track this critical work15:11
amullersc68cal: the 'linuxbridge' tag won't cut it, it's too generic15:12
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sc68calamuller: ok - sounds good15:12
anteayaanilvenkata: I'm not a guy15:12
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amullernow I have to remember how to create a new tag, launchpad UI is so fun :)15:12
gsagieanilvenkata : i believe in you!15:12
anteayaanilvenkata: and if you want to do the work that is great15:13
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amullersc68cal: anteaya: mestery: I created the 'linuxbridge-gate-parity' tag: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=linuxbridge-gate-parity15:15
anteayaamuller: thank you15:15
amullerplease mark all of these LB parity issues you find with that tag. I'll set priority to critical if you ping me.15:15
anteayaamuller: thank you as well15:15
anteayathat helps15:15
mesteryamuller: thank you my friend!15:15
amullerthat link can help you track the current status in etherpads etc15:15
sc68calI'm just frustrated because I report a bug along the way for doing this linux bridge testing at the gate, end of the day EST, then the next morning because I forget to assign it to myself I now have to ping someone that yes, I am working on it15:16
anteayaI have added this to the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/devstack-linuxbridge15:16
sc68calbecause we apparently don't want to use the jenkins/gerrit plugin that assigns the bug when someone pushes a patch15:16
amullersc68cal: "we" in this case is just me15:16
amulleryou can ignore me if you want, that's fine :)15:17
openstackgerritKyle Mestery proposed openstack/neutron: DHCP: Add default DNS servers to Neutron DHCP agent  https://review.openstack.org/19271215:17
amullerI was just pointing out that in these cases it might be worthwhile to pre-assign the bug to yourself or someone else, that is all15:17
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mesteryamuller sc68cal: I sense the frustration here, but what amuller is saying is right. sc68cal, sorry you had to work to get the bug back to yourself :)15:18
mesteryWe're all on the same team here :)15:18
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anteayaactually right now the bug is unassigned15:21
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anteayaaccording to my browser15:22
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openstackgerritAnn Kamyshnikova proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Some testing of ovs-agent flowless restart  https://review.openstack.org/18292015:22
sc68calyup - wanted to discuss it here15:22
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sc68calI'll re-assign it to myself since it's the biggest item on my agenda15:23
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anteayaactually mestery armax do you have a moment to join me in infra to discuss a repo name?15:23
mesteryanteaya: yes will do15:24
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anteayathanks15:25
anteayasc68cal: okay thank you15:25
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anteayajaypipes: have you had a chance to review the get me a network spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184857/15:33
anteayajaypipes: it is scheduled to be discussed next week at the sprint, so would be nice to include your comments should you have time to share them15:34
jaypipesanteaya: I will review that today.15:34
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anteayajaypipes: wonderful, thank you15:35
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openstackgerritPavel Bondar proposed openstack/neutron: Remove _check_ip_in_allocation_pool  https://review.openstack.org/19273815:51
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openstackgerritvenkata anil proposed openstack/neutron: dhcp fails if extra_dhcp_opts for stateless subnet enabled  https://review.openstack.org/18506615:55
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pavel_bondarhi, carl_baldwin16:18
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pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: thanks for reviewing all these patches this week16:18
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pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: we really moving forward fast now16:18
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carl_baldwinpavel_bondar: It is picking up momentum.16:21
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pavel_bondarcarl_balwin: yes, and I like it:)16:22
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pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: I guess next two patches, which could require your eye are: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189299/ and  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192663/16:23
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matrohonmestery : hi16:25
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose DVR CSNAT L3 Agent from Compute Node L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/18536816:27
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carl_baldwinpavel_bondar: ack.  I will try to keep the ball rolling.16:28
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: question about the history of the ipam work16:30
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: shoot16:31
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: why wasn't it made part of the plugin api?16:31
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: just to keep compatibility with existing plugins that don't implement it?16:31
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: I’m not sure why it should be coupled with Neutron plugins.  Isn’t it orthogonal to it?16:32
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: only if a plugin doesn't care about it :)16:33
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: when i was at big switch, moving IPAM to the backend controller was something we wanted to do for quite a while16:34
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: it can work with this new stuff, but it will require another plugin16:35
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: and another controller call16:35
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: compared to if it was part of the create_port process, it could be handled in one call to the backend16:35
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openstackgerritPeter V. Saveliev proposed openstack/neutron-specs: [WIP] VLAN aware VMs  https://review.openstack.org/9461216:35
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: it's not a big deal, i was just curious if it was ever considered to make it part of the core API. and, if so, why was that approach rejected16:37
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Add support for PluginWorker and Process creation notification  https://review.openstack.org/18939116:39
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: You might check with pavel_bondar or john belamaric to be sure but I don’t think it was very seriously considered.16:40
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: ack. the other reason i brought this up is that i noticed that ipam depends on the subnet db calls now16:41
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: which aren't guarunteed to be the same for all plugins16:42
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: one plugin could store subnets differently16:42
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: but we have a coupling between ipam now and the schema16:42
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openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: [DO NOT MERGE] Patch to test the new linux bridge job  https://review.openstack.org/18723516:43
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kevinbentonmeh, that ship has long sailed, not much point in talking about it now16:43
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kevinbentonjaypipes: so what can cause a deadlock? any update?16:47
kevinbentonjaypipes: or just one with a where clause16:47
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jaypipeskevinbenton: any update can potentially cause a failure to certify the writeset, which will manifest as a InnoDB deadlock.16:48
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: I may need to make a big mental context switch to answer your question well.  But, there were places where I thought I was successful preventing subnet DB details from crossing the IPAM pluggable API boundary.  Maybe I need to look again.  Could you point out where you’re seeing it?16:48
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jaypipeskevinbenton: that said, it's *extremely* unusual to see it happen "in the wild". Typically we see this only during benchmarking runs where we are intentionally (and unrealistically) putting a certain high load on the database server.16:49
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189299/ is all about allowing ipam to call _get_subnets16:50
openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Fix FloatingIP Namespace creation in DVR for Late Binding  https://review.openstack.org/17750716:50
jaypipeskevinbenton: but, bottom line, when using Galera, you cannot rely on SELECT FOR UPDATE behaving properly, and anywhere you send a UPDATE SQL statement, you should decorate that DB API method with @retry_on_deadlock.16:50
kevinbentonjaypipes: wait!16:50
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kevinbentonjaypipes: i'm talking about not using select for update16:51
jaypipeskevinbenton: yes, lock wait timeout exceeded.16:51
kevinbentonjaypipes: just a regular optimistict locking :) strategy16:51
jaypipeskevinbenton: yes, correct.16:51
kevinbentonjaypipes: compare-and-swap :)16:51
jaypipeskevinbenton: yes16:51
kevinbentonjaypipes: that deadlocks16:51
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kevinbentonjaypipes: deadlock all the updates all the time, right?16:51
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jaypipeskevinbenton: no...16:51
jaypipesnot quite following you.16:52
kevinbentonjaypipes: any update can fail with a deadlock whether or not select for update is used, right?16:52
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: Any update with constraints that could be violated in a write set certification.16:52
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: right, anything with a where clause16:53
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: same for any inserts into a table with unique constraints, right?16:53
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jaypipeskevinbenton: ah, yes, correct. though with the compare-and-swap technique, the WHERE conditions limit the likelihood of that deadlock occurring to an extremely small time window.16:53
jaypipeskevinbenton: that in reality, you will rarely see occur.16:53
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kevinbentonjaypipes: unless it's a table that gets hit all of the time16:54
kevinbentonjaypipes: er a specific record16:54
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jaypipessure, there are certainly hot spot records.16:55
jaypipeskevinbenton: do you ahve a link to the patch in question here?16:55
kevinbentonjaypipes: no patch, just understanding the issue so i can write a patch16:55
kevinbentonjaypipes: so SELECT FOR UDPATE16:56
kevinbentonjaypipes: what do you mean you can't rely on it?16:56
kevinbentonjaypipes: does it lose it's guaruntees of exclusivity?16:56
kevinbentonjaypipes: or does it just result in deadlocks?16:57
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jaypipeskevinbenton: so when you issue a SELECT FOR UPDATE on a Galera node, the InnoDB row-level locks and gap-locks are take properly on the node that the client hit. Howerver those row locks are not replicated to other nodes, which means if your client hits a different node for the UPDATE SQL statement, that node will not understand the records were locked from the SELECT FOR UPDATE statement.16:58
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor NetcatTester class  https://review.openstack.org/18883616:58
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: ip_lib: Add command 'ip neigh flush all' to clean arp cache  https://review.openstack.org/19227216:58
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce connection testers module  https://review.openstack.org/19114716:58
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: [WIP] Add test cases to testing firewall drivers  https://review.openstack.org/19114816:58
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kevinbentonjaypipes: so using a select for update statement is not safe then? someone else could update the table concurrently?16:59
jaypipeskevinbenton: The UPDATE statement will either succeed, or fail due to another node writing a change to the records that the UPDATE statement would have modified, which will cause a deadlock to be returned to the user.16:59
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jaypipeskevinbenton: that is correct.16:59
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kevinbentonjaypipes: oh, but the original statement that tried to lock will fail with a deadlock though16:59
kevinbentonright?17:00
jaypipeskevinbenton: the way "around" that is to only send DB client traffic to a single node in Galera -- this is called "single-writer mode" or sometimes incorrectly referred to as "single-master mode"17:00
kevinbentonjaypipes: right17:00
jaypipeskevinbenton: no, the original statement that tried to lock (i.e. the SELECT FOR UPDATE) will proceed successfully. It's the UPDATE statement that always comes after the SELECT FOR UPDATE that can potentially deadlock.17:01
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kevinbentonjaypipes: sorry, that's what i meant17:01
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kevinbentonjaypipes: i want to make sure that the original person that tried to lock will be notified via a deadlock that a concurrent update happened17:01
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jaypipeskevinbenton: yes, they will.17:02
kevinbentonjaypipes: a.k.a the SELECT for UPDATE still protected the thing that wanted the lock17:02
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jaypipeskevinbenton: no, it didn't :)17:02
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kevinbentonjaypipes: just with an after-the-fact error17:02
jaypipeskevinbenton: yes.17:02
kevinbentonjaypipes: protected as in, guarunteed that it's update didn't take place concurrently17:02
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: It is not the select for update that protects anything.  It is the constraints that protect it.17:03
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jaypipeskevinbenton: the difference is that the SELECT FOR UPDATE statement doesn't actually protect anything in Galera if you write to multiple nodes simultaneously.17:03
jaypipeswhat carl_baldwin said :)17:03
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: select for update sets constraints, no?17:03
jaypipeskevinbenton: no it does not.17:04
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: No.  It gets a lock, one that isn’t honored by other masters.17:04
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: so with_lockmode is worthless and we need to replace the algorithms that rely on it17:04
jaypipeskevinbenton: yes, and AFAIK in Neutron, that's alredy been done.17:04
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jaypipesby ZZelle17:04
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kevinbentonjaypipes: no, there is still one in the ipallocation code17:05
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jaypipeskevinbenton: ah, I see.17:05
carl_baldwinjaypipes: I wouldn’t go that far.17:05
kevinbentonjaypipes: which i put a note by to swap out, but then carl_baldwin was giving me a hard time17:05
carl_baldwinThere has been some work in that direction, yes.17:05
kevinbenton:)17:05
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: I thought the note was about removing the retry.17:06
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: yeah, it was :)17:06
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: i'm just giving you a hard time17:06
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: :P17:06
kevinbentonbut salv-orl_ was mentioning in the quota thread that he wanted to use with_lockmode update, right?17:06
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: ^&17:06
kevinbentonjaypipes: so should i just slap an oslo_db retry decorator high up in the stack?17:07
jaypipeskevinbenton: bingo.17:07
kevinbentonjaypipes: since this can strike at any moment on unsuspecting victims?17:07
kevinbentonjaypipes: ok17:07
jaypipeskevinbenton: bingo.17:07
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: jaypipes: So, I think salv-orl_ is thinking that we’ll get in to a single write master situation where lockmode update will work.17:07
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kevinbentoncarl_baldwin: is anyone working on a lockless algo for IPAM?17:08
carl_baldwinjaypipes: I’m still a little unsure about this.  I did not read your reply yet with the focus I need to understand this DBFacade work.17:08
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carl_baldwinrossella_s did some work on this.  I’m not sure where that ended up at the moment.17:08
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kevinbentonok, i'll follow up with her17:10
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: Recollections are coming back.  We hit a snag (I don’t remember what) and didn’t know how to make it work.17:10
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carl_baldwinI think resource constraints forced it onto the back burner.17:11
carl_baldwin… or it was abandoned.  I’m not sure.17:11
carl_baldwinWe did get some functional tests out of it.17:11
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kevinbenton:)17:11
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: as part of the forking stuff you looked at for me, I noticed that ServicePluginBase ABC exists, but is really only inherited from from the metering service plugin, even though the rest of the services actually implement it's interface (except for get_plugin_name() which is actually *never* called in the code anywhere). What do you think about just deleting get_plugin_name and making everything17:12
otherwiseguy inherit from it to get get_processes()?17:12
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: also, does the get_processes() thing seem sane to you?17:13
otherwiseguy:)17:13
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: what is get_processes()?17:13
carl_baldwinotherwiseguy: I know I just reviewed this yesterday but have made many context switches since.  Do you have a URL to get me back in to context quickly?17:13
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otherwiseguykevinbenton: basically my solution to the "some plugins need a process of their very own that is only run once no matter how many workers are spawned" issue.17:14
salv-orl_carl_baldwin: I am not thinking that. I've stopped thinking ages ago. I am relying informations from previous threads.  That came from zzzeek directly17:14
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otherwiseguyso basically get_processes, if defined in a core/service plugin returns a collection of functions to run as a process.17:14
otherwiseguythat neutron-server will spawn on its own.17:14
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kevinbentonotherwiseguy: ok, so one-time init hooks can go there?17:15
carl_baldwinsalv-orl_: So, what of jaypipes last reply to the quota enforcement thread?  I’m just confused, maybe I just need to read it again.17:15
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otherwiseguykevinbenton: as long as they are only needed for that process. You could still do 'things that just happen once' in the mech_driver initialize() as well, but they would have to be things that are safe to fork. There is still the callbacks event for 'process forked' for API/RPC workers to also know that it is safe to do things like create connections, etc.17:17
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zzzeeksalv-orl_: referring to “single write master”?17:18
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kevinbentonotherwiseguy: so what happens if something runs an eventlet task in initialize?17:18
zzzeeksalv-orl_: I probably said im personally leaning towards that :)    last I spoke to jaypipes about it, he’s not into it.17:19
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: the forking doesn't duplicate that does it?17:19
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zzzeeksalv-orl_: in the bigger scheme, I can’t dicate that openstack uses only single-write master galera.   I can just say, hey life is way easier when we do17:19
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: that was what i observed, but Neil seemed to observe otherwise17:19
otherwiseguykevinbenton: Tried to come up with something that was opt-in/didn't really affect existing code. I did have changing the default api_workers which I figured would be controversial, but luckily someone else already merged that part of the change. :)17:19
jaypipeszzzeek: oh, don't get me wrong :) I'm into it. It's just that for Galera, where you have synchronous replication, it doesn't make as much sense as standard master-slave topologies.17:20
otherwiseguykevinbenton: I wrote a test script the other day, and it showed that eventlet greenthreads get copied. I just had a while True: print n;n+=1 in a greenthread. Forking caused multiple copies to be printed.17:20
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: a.k.a why can't someone just start their background one-time things during init?17:20
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: ok17:20
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: let me pull up my script really quick17:21
zzzeekjaypipes: yeah but then it sort of does because there is still replication lag, there is how nice SELECT FOR UPDATE is, and possibly other things17:21
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kevinbentonotherwiseguy: so i made this modification to the linux bridge driver http://paste.openstack.org/show/216859/17:22
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: and couldn't get the background task to print multiple times17:22
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otherwiseguykevinbenton: your background task runs and exits really quickly, though.17:23
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otherwiseguyoh, just saw the request. :p17:23
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: no it doesn't, that URL takes a long time to return :)17:24
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: i was simulating some sync process17:24
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kevinbentonotherwiseguy: well it takes 10 seconds17:25
kevinbentonotherwiseguy: which i assume is long enough to fork :)17:25
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carl_baldwinjaypipes: zzzeek:  I now understand now that I see the discussion in progress for myself.17:25
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salv-orl_zzzeek: I was referring to that indeed. Single master through DB facade. I also know not everyone is into it.17:26
zzzeeksalv-orl_: we do it at RH and ive gone through a lot of trouble to make it happen with HAProxy and its a key feature of my new HAAlchemy thing that I'17:27
zzzeekIve had no time to work on17:27
jaypipeskevinbenton: it's time for our secret meeting. ssshhh, don't tell mestery.17:27
mesterylol17:28
mesteryjaypipes: BUSTED!17:28
jaypipesmestery: :)17:28
salv-orl_jaypipes: a secret, password-protected IRC channel?!?!?!?!?!17:28
otherwiseguykevinbenton: example code: https://gist.github.com/otherwiseguy/630d390b8d187f1fd9af17:28
jaypipessalv-orl_: heh17:28
salv-orl_mestery: send the thought police and have them arrested17:29
mesterysalv-orl_: HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT EVEN!17:29
mesterysalv-orl_: I believe they should be knocking down jaypipes and kevinbenton's doors any moment17:29
jaypipesholy shit, who are these people in black suits?17:29
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openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Refactor NetcatTester class  https://review.openstack.org/18883617:31
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: ip_lib: Add flush() command to IpNeigh to clean arp cache  https://review.openstack.org/19227217:31
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Move NetcatTester to common/net_helpers  https://review.openstack.org/19280117:31
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce connection testers module  https://review.openstack.org/19114717:31
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Add test cases to testing firewall drivers  https://review.openstack.org/19114817:31
openstackgerritJakub Libosvar proposed openstack/neutron: Introduce yet another Pinger object  https://review.openstack.org/19280217:31
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otherwiseguykevinbenton: wouldn't your request, therefor client connection/socket file descriptor exist pre-fork and then you'd be trying to read a response on the same file descriptor from multiple processes (which doesn't work)?17:35
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: oops, missed your response: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189391/17:39
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carl_baldwinotherwiseguy: looking...17:44
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openstackgerritGal Sagie proposed openstack/neutron: Decompose DVR CSNAT L3 Agent from Compute Node L3 Agent  https://review.openstack.org/18536817:47
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/neutron-specs: ML2/OVS QoS support with bandwidth limiting  https://review.openstack.org/18234917:52
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carl_baldwinotherwiseguy: ping.  I’m finally getting back in to this.18:08
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: pong. thanks. That reminds me, I should probably mark it WIP until the ServicePluginBase part is worked out.18:09
carl_baldwinotherwiseguy: So, I am a proponent of having the common interface if they’re all going to implement it anyway.18:10
carl_baldwinre: get_plugin_name.  Could there be anything out of tree that might call it?18:10
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: Not sure what it would be. Seems like the only thing that calls get_plugin_type/description() is neutorn/manager.py.18:11
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otherwiseguyThere is apparently a 20% chance that I will type neutorn instead of neutron.18:12
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carl_baldwinlol18:13
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: could remove the @abc.abstractmethod and default it to return get_plugin_type(), but if it really isn't used...meh. And metering just makes all 3 get_plugin* functions return the same constant. :p18:13
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carl_baldwinAn option might be to simply remove @abc.abstractmethod.18:13
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carl_baldwinJust return None by default?18:14
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: great minds? ^18:14
carl_baldwinIt seems a little bit out of this scope to remove get_plugin_name entirely.18:15
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: what if it was a patch all its own, then it would be in scope. :D18:16
carl_baldwinIt also seems out of scope to go adding get_plugin_name everywhere to satisfy the abstractmethod requirement.18:16
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carl_baldwinI guess I’m leaning to just removing the abstractmethod decorator but I don’t feel strongly about it.18:17
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carl_baldwinotherwiseguy: ^18:17
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: Yeah, I don't really care that much one way or the other either. I tend to default to "if you aren't using it, get rid of it" but I can understand caution as well.18:18
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: The only thing I don't want to do is add get_plugin_name() calls everywhere that just return the same thing as get_plugin_type()18:19
carl_baldwinotherwiseguy: +118:19
otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: it'd be kind of nice if core/service plugins both inherited the get_processes stuff instead of defining it twice.18:20
otherwiseguybut I didn't see any obvious place to put it.18:21
carl_baldwinotherwiseguy: that might be nice, agreed18:21
otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: so the get_processes() thing seem like a reasonable solution to the issue?18:22
carl_baldwinotherwiseguy: I think so.18:22
otherwiseguyI couldn't really think of another way to do it cleanly. re-using the parent process was really messy.18:22
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: thanks for taking a look.18:27
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carl_baldwinotherwiseguy: yw18:28
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artomI'm working on a spec for Nova to list all tenant's floating IPs...18:36
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artomhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/171389/18:36
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artomThe issue of paging came up...18:37
artomIt would fairly straightforward to add to nova network18:37
artomBut while Neutron currently supports listing all tenants's floating IPs, it doesn't look like it can page the results18:37
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artomIf something like that were to be added, do I understand correctly that it would have to be added to every plugin/extension that implements listing floating IPs?18:38
salv-orl_artom: paging/sorting are applied at the API layer, independently of plugin processing. It should work, if it does not, it's a regression18:39
salv-orl_I think filing a bug (and finding somebody to look at it) would make sense in this case18:39
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artomsalv-orl_, thanks :) No bug yet, because I'm still trying to understand how the code work. I know Nova much better than Neutron ;)18:41
artom(That is to say, I know Nova a little, and Neutron not at all)18:42
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Minor editing  https://review.openstack.org/19283418:42
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add networking-sfc to the list of affiliated Neutron projects  https://review.openstack.org/19283518:42
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Minor improvements to sub_projects document  https://review.openstack.org/19283418:43
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/neutron: Add networking-sfc to the list of affiliated Neutron projects  https://review.openstack.org/19283518:44
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artomsalv-orl_, although now that I try it in python-neutronclient, it's not doing what I think it should be doing...18:44
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salv-orl_artom: don't worry neutron never does that. it's sentient, and cheeky18:45
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openstackgerritSalvatore Orlando proposed openstack/neutron: NSX QoS ext: RXTX factor can be decimal  https://review.openstack.org/18966518:45
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artomsalv-orl_, I should be able to just add the limit=3 param to a request and have it paged, right? Unless the operator has disabled paging in the config...18:51
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* artom tries on a devstack he fully controls.18:51
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salv-orl_artom: with default devstack values paging should be enabled. Try submitting the request directly using curl18:52
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artomsalv-orl_, I was trying with a cloud we have running here because I was too lazy to boot up my devstack VM... doing that now18:53
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Fix DVR interface delete by port when gateway is set  https://review.openstack.org/17300118:58
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amullerZZelle: why did you set WIP on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190342/  ?18:59
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ZZelle_amuller, i need to add that it's a temporary solution until oslo.db switch to pymysql19:01
ZZelle_s/add/add a comment/19:01
amullerZZelle_: how about I merge both patches and you push a follow up to add the comment?19:01
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ZZelle_amuller, fine for me19:02
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amullerI thought so :)19:02
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amullerZZelle_: +2A on both19:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Python 3: do not use cmp(), nor sorted(..., cmp=...)  https://review.openstack.org/19271819:03
artomsalv-orl_, paging works as expected on my devstack, thanks for your help :)19:03
ZZelle_amuller, zouh!19:03
salv-orl_artom: I'm kind of surprised that for once there was no bug in neutron ;)19:03
ekarlsois neutron going to switch to pecan ?19:04
artomsalv-orl_, heh, there might be, I haven't been very thorough19:04
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openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Fix FloatingIP Namespace creation in DVR for Late Binding  https://review.openstack.org/17750719:06
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ZZelle_salv-orl_, "I'm kind of surprised that for once there was no bug in neutron" looks like a bug19:06
ZZelle_:)19:06
openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Fix DVR interface delete by port when gateway is set  https://review.openstack.org/17300119:07
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pc_mmestery: hi19:38
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mesterypc_m: hi there19:39
pc_mmestery: Sorry I missed the Drivers Team meeting this morning, but saw the log19:39
mesterypc_m: no worries19:40
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pc_mmestery: you wanted to touch base about VPN?19:40
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mesterypc_m: It's on my list, but not burning me enough yet :)19:41
mesteryamotoki also wanted to chat with you about VPN19:41
pc_mmestery: amotoki: I'm around for another hour or so.19:42
pc_mmestery: I could use driver team eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191944/3.19:43
pc_mmestery: There is a design decision needed there. I'm thinking option C would be best, but would like community opinion on this, before starting implementation of the multiple local subnet changes (which I want to get on ASAP).19:44
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matrohonmestery : hi20:03
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mesterymatrohon: hi there!20:04
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matrohonmestery : I don't really understand what you want me to do here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145703420:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1457034 in neutron "BGPVPN extension" [Undecided,New]20:04
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mesterymatrohon: Ah, yes.20:05
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mesterymatrohon: Well, as the drivers team was reviewing RFEs, this one wasn't following the RFE process as documented and comment by armax and myself in comments 2 and 320:05
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mesterymatrohon: Though, now that I'm reading it, the use case becomes clearer20:06
mestery*reading it again20:06
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mesterymatrohon: I added pc_m to review that too20:07
mesteryand marked it confirmed20:07
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mesterycarl_baldwin: I added your "routed network / network segments" coding to the spring agenda here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-liberty-mid-cycle20:10
carl_baldwinmestery: ++20:10
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carl_baldwinmestery: We’ve got a lot to talk about at the sprint.20:11
mesterycarl_baldwin: ++, we're going to be busy20:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19237920:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Minor improvements to sub_projects document  https://review.openstack.org/19283420:14
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otherwiseguycarl_baldwin: just noticed that all of the services/l3_router/* service classes except l3_router_plugin inherit subclasses of NeutronPluginBaseV2, so they'd get get_processes() from there like the core_plugin. But l3_router_plugin/metering don't. Not sure about the out-of-tree ones, though. So I suppose there is another good reason to have NeutronPluginBaseV2 and ServicePluginBase to inherit a common version of20:17
otherwiseguy get_processes--adding ServicePluginBase to something that already had NeutronPluginBaseV2 could make the source of the default get_processes() kind of confusing.20:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Add networking-sfc to the list of affiliated Neutron projects  https://review.openstack.org/19283520:17
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matrohonmestery : is there any documentation about the spec/devref/RFE blueprint relationship?20:21
mesterymatrohon: yes: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/blueprints.html20:21
matrohonmestery : but devref are never mentioned there20:22
* mestery looks20:22
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mesterymatrohon: The idea with RFEs was to focus on the "what" and move the "how" into devref. I thought was captured there, but you are right, it's not there.20:23
mesterymatrohon: Let me find it.20:23
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openstackgerritChristian Wolter proposed openstack/neutron: Add documentation of LeastRoutersScheduler option  https://review.openstack.org/19221720:25
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Swamicarl_baldwin: hi20:36
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matrohonmestery : are you still looking for devref process references?20:39
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Swamikevinbenton:hi20:39
mesterymatrohon: I swear that was in the reviews I had but I can't seem to find it, so yes still looking20:40
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mesterymatrohon: Regardless, please move forward with devref documentation once pc_m has reviewed this as well20:40
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pc_mmestery: Review the bug or the corresponding spec?20:44
mesterypc_m: The RFE bug at first, and then the spec, which should fold into devref20:44
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pc_mmestery: OK. I've been looking at the spec already. Had seen the spec, looks good to me.20:44
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pc_mmestery: matrohon: Commenting on bug20:45
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matrohonmestery : ok, but what should be the difference between the spec and the devref?20:47
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mesterymatrohon: in all possibility, they are likely almost 1:1 :)20:48
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carl_baldwinSwami: hi20:50
matrohonmestery : currently, it seems that devrefs are a way to bypass the spec process, since there is no templates for devrefs, anyone seems free to put what he wants in a devref docuent20:51
Swamicarl_baldwin: quick question20:51
Swamiwith the multiple subnets per network, the behavior is different between the ipv4, ipv6 and dhcp20:51
pc_mmatrohon: As I understand it, the bug describes the "what" and then the devref would describe the "how" in a manner similar to what was done in specs. Granted, I've got my first devref out for review, so it may need work meeting the needs.20:51
mesterypc_m: ++20:51
mesterymatrohon: You are right in that there is no template for devref, I'll see if I can fix that.20:51
Swamiwith ipv4 I always see that it create two different ports both with DVR and without DVR.20:51
pc_mmatrohon: So, the stuff from the spec that discusses "what" can be removed.20:52
dougwigpc_m: and the spec, if requested, covers the 'why'.20:52
mesterydougwig: ++20:52
Swamiwith ipv6 and with dhcp based ports, it does not create an additonal port but just updates the current port.20:52
pc_mdougwig: Right... there was mention that a spec may be required.20:52
SwamiWas there a specific reason for the ipv4 behavior or is it a bug?20:52
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matrohonmestery, dougwig, pc_m : ok so RFEs(light spec)=what; specs=what&why; devref=how20:55
mesterymatrohon: Yes, and specs not required for most things in that process, only if requested by drivers team20:55
Swamicarl_baldwin: did you get my question20:56
matrohonso devref is more a20:56
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matrohonmestery, dougwig : so devref is more a reference implementation details20:56
carl_baldwinSwami: reading back…20:56
openstackgerritSwaminathan Vasudevan proposed openstack/neutron: Fix FloatingIP Namespace creation in DVR for Late Binding  https://review.openstack.org/17750720:56
carl_baldwinIn what context are two ports created?20:56
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Swamicarl_baldwin: when I try to associate a second subnet to a router on the same network.20:58
carl_baldwinSwami: ^20:58
carl_baldwinSwami: on the external network or an internal network?20:59
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Swamicarl_baldwin: On the internal network21:00
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pc_mmatrohon: yeah, I treated it like design notes. How the change was going to be done.21:02
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matrohonpc_m, mestery : is there a corresponding blueprint for the devref you proposed, pc_m?21:03
pc_mmatrohon: no. One has not been requested (yet)21:03
pc_mmatrohon: We'll see if the driver's team requests one, and of course, the devref needs review, so we'll see what is needed there.21:04
* pc_m which is why I marked it WIP :)21:04
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matrohonmestery, pc_m : ok... I though spec was optional but BP mandatory. BP are useful to make a clear release note, and target a specific sprint21:06
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matrohonpc_m : I'll have to write down a devref for bagpipe :)21:06
carl_baldwinSwami.  Does it automatically add a second port when you add the interface?21:07
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pc_mmatrohon: To me blueprint = blueprint spec21:07
pc_mmatrohon: which is optional21:08
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* pc_m should have been double equal :)21:08
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pc_mmatrohon: yes, devref is required.21:08
Swamicarl_baldwin: yes it automatically adds21:08
carl_baldwinSwami: I wasn’t aware of that for internal networks.21:09
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carl_baldwinSwami: I was thinking in the context of an external network where I don’t think an extra port will be created.21:09
carl_baldwin… or, at least, it never was in the past.21:10
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Swamicarl_baldwin: So why is the behavior different for dhcp and ipv6.21:10
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Swamicarl_baldwin: dhcp also has only one single port for both the subnets that you are creating. But only for ipv4 internal there are two ports that are created right now.21:11
matrohonpc_m : the fact is that I can't find any document mentioning devref is required, and how it should look like21:11
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matrohonpc_m, mestery : eh only doc I have is http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/blueprints.html21:12
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pc_mmatrohon: There is no info on how it should look, AFAIK.21:12
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Add support for PluginWorker and Process creation notification  https://review.openstack.org/18939121:12
carl_baldwinSwami: Not sure.  It may be because router internal ports get associated with a subnet rather than the network.21:12
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matrohonmestery, pc_m : and it mention that a slim spec should follow the RFEs21:12
pc_mIt was mentioned as required. I think armax had a link on that (otherwise it was mentioned in Neutron IRC meeting)21:12
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Swamicarl_baldwin: I am wondering if it is a bug with respect to Ipv4.21:13
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pc_mmatrohon: Yeah, a bit confusing in the wiki. says...21:16
pc_mhe process for moving work from RFEs into the code involves someone assigning themselves the RFE bug and filing a matching spec using the slimmed down template in the neutron-specs repository.\21:16
pc_mand then says...21:16
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pc_mThe neutron-drivers team will evaluate the RFE and may advise the submitter to file a spec in neutron-specs to elaborate on the feature request.21:16
carl_baldwinSwami: The add router interface API associates each internal router interface with a subnet_id.21:17
carl_baldwinhttp://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html21:17
carl_baldwinSwami: This implies that a router could be “connected” to some subnets and not others.  I bet it was convenient to implement that with a port per subnet.21:17
pc_mmatrohon: I think follow up discussion in IRCs brought out the point that a devref is needed and reinforced that the spec is optional.21:17
carl_baldwinSwami: Though, I doubt it had to be that way.21:17
Swamicarl_baldwin: thanks21:18
matrohonpc_m : ok, but BPs with RFEs are the minimal material to track the feature21:19
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carl_baldwinSwami: Any luck with DVR and multiple external subnets (on one external network)?21:19
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pc_mmatrohon: RFE + devref, as I understand it. BP spec is optional, and would be requested by driver's team21:19
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matrohonpc_m : to me RFE are BP with the RFE tag, am I wrong?21:20
Swamicarl_baldwin: no I am still working on it21:21
pc_mmatrohon: RFE is a LaunchPad bug with specific information as mentioned in the wiki (answering questions), and an RFE tag.21:21
pc_mmatrohon: RFE != BP spec21:21
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Swamicarl_baldwin: I am currently seeing an issue with port-binding context not properly passed if it is a dvr and if it is a port-update.21:22
Swamicarl_baldwin: I have requested some help from vivek21:22
matrohonpc_m : oh not a BP, but bug you're right!21:22
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matrohonpc_m : thanks!21:22
pc_mmatrohon: sure, np21:22
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carl_baldwinSwami: thanks21:25
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Swamicarl_baldwin: I will update you if I have something working.21:27
carl_baldwinSwami: cool, thanks21:28
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/neutron: Update version for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/19240921:29
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Update version for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/19241221:32
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gusdougwig: I note the GSLB Use Cases, and IRC discussion (afaics) have yet to mention "load" ;)21:34
gusdougwig: In particular, I expected to see mention of sites being configured with a particular load limit, and LBs (or something) reporting load to the GSLB so it can eventually slow+stop handing out more DNS responses for the heavily loaded site.21:35
openstackgerritSean M. Collins proposed openstack/neutron: [DO NOT MERGE] Patch to test the new linux bridge job  https://review.openstack.org/18723521:35
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ZZelle_sc68cal, hi, about ^21:39
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ZZelle_sc68cal, are you that jenkins will honor Depends-On tags (ie: use depends-on devstack change)?21:41
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sc68calZZelle_: hopefully :)21:45
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dougwiggus: indeed, i had intended to supplement the use cases they wrote up with the monitors/algorithms supported by our appliances, though i'm not sure which of that set would actaully get implemented in the first pass.21:45
sc68calZZelle_: I got pretty excited - I got linux bridge job to pass with the Depends-On set to depend on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168423/21:46
sc68calbut that devstack patch is probably not the way to go about it- it's very gate specific, so I shuffled some pieces around into the actual gate job, and pieces that should go into devstack21:46
sc68calleaving the gate specific pieces (like using eth0 for the physical interface) for the gate configuration21:47
sc68calanteaya: ^21:49
sc68calmestery: ^21:49
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ZZelle_sc68cal, jobs run currently on one node so you could create a tap and use it as physical interface21:49
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sc68calmestery: http://logs.openstack.org/35/187235/4/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-linuxbridge/4c442e0/logs/testr_results.html.gz21:50
sc68calanteaya: ^21:50
sc68calZZelle_: true. We'll have to look. At this point i'm just trying to collect up all these pieces that I think might get the linux bridge actually working21:50
sc68calZZelle_: then refine it as we go along21:51
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amullersc68cal: btw once I get the current series of fullstack patches merged it'd be cool if you'd add linuxbridge support to fullstack22:11
amullerit'll be pretty easy22:11
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docaedoHi, I have a question tangentially related to the "get me a network" spec (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184857/)22:11
docaedoI'm wondering if anyone can share a pointer to something that gets you devstack with neutron under linux with KVM (inc22:12
docaedoluding making OVS work).22:12
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docaedoThere are vagrant boxes that deliver different variations, but is there any non-vagrant approach officially endorced by the neutron team?22:12
sc68calamuller: sounds good to me22:12
docaedoBasically hoping for something like 1) take ubuntu 14 VM, 2) run this shell script that preps second interface and ovs bridge, 3) use this local.conf for devstack and run ./stack.sh22:12
amullersc68cal: OK we'll talk when the time comes :)22:12
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docaedo(the driver for me is that I present frequently at openstack user groups and cloud-related stuff, and I want to get folks pointed at something that gets them off and running quickly, using neutron)22:13
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openstackgerritTerry Wilson proposed openstack/neutron: Add support for PluginWorker and Process creation notification  https://review.openstack.org/18939122:15
openstackgerritCarl Baldwin proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Don't put subnet pools in a scope by default  https://review.openstack.org/19291422:15
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Swamirkukura: hi22:17
mlavallekevinbenton: I see that you've been workin this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1445412. Are you done fixing it?22:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1445412 in neutron "performance of plugin_rpc.get_routers is bad" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)22:18
kevinbentonmlavalle: i think for now. i got it down from like 10 seconds to a few hundred milliseconds22:19
mlavallekevinbenton: should I marked it fixed in Launchpad?22:19
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kevinbentonmlavalle: yes22:20
kevinbentonmlavalle: thanks22:20
mlavallekevinbenton: no, thank you for the fix!22:20
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kevinbentonmlavalle: yeah, it was spread across like 8 patches improving various components. i think i put partial-bug on all of them which is why the report never closed22:21
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mlavallekevinbenton: yeah, I saw that :-)22:21
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amullercarl_baldwin: naming question, how do you normally call what's after the slash in a prefix? like 192.168.1.0/24, what do you call that 24? I often use 'cidr' but maybe that's not accurate?22:26
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carl_baldwinamuller: I call the whole thing (192.168.1.0/24) the cidr.  The 24 is the prefix length.22:27
amullercarl_baldwin: ack, thanks22:27
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carl_baldwinamuller: Glad to help.22:27
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: I updated the bugs list in the L3 team wiki page22:29
mlavallecarl_baldwin: do we want to discuss ml3 again tomorrow?22:29
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Great, thanks for your help.22:29
carl_baldwinmlavalle: We might want to get an update but I hope it doesn’t take a large portion of the meeting.22:29
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: I think the big topic for tomorrow will be routing network segments.22:30
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: ok, I'll move it lower in the agenda. Right now it's the first topic right after announcement. I'll put routing network segments at the top22:30
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: Thanks.22:31
mlavallecarl_baldwin: I also marked https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1445412 as fixed commited after checking witk kevinbenton22:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1445412 in neutron "performance of plugin_rpc.get_routers is bad" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)22:32
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openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Add tunneling support to full stack tests  https://review.openstack.org/19078622:57
openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Add a fullstack fake VM, basic connectivity test  https://review.openstack.org/19119722:57
openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Add l2pop support to full stack tests  https://review.openstack.org/19083222:57
openstackgerritAssaf Muller proposed openstack/neutron: Enable fullstack multinode tests, add L3 HA test to prove  https://review.openstack.org/18822122:57
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amullerZZelle: Pushed new versions of the fullstack series. I dealt with all comments and made significant changes to the first patch.23:10
amullerZZelle: Marked the first patch as WIP until your patch to unskip the DB tests goes in, then I'll rebase23:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-fwaas: Update version for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/19241023:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-vpnaas: Update version for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/19241223:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron: Update version for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/19240923:28
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openstackgerritMichael Bayer proposed openstack/neutron-specs: Propose scripted online schema migrations  https://review.openstack.org/19293723:46
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anteayasc68cal: yay23:47
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